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    Was a student there at the time. Saw the JGB in Campbell Hall (76?),With collaboration from various kind folks in the Dead.net vining community, our own erickat prepared this handy guide explaining how vining works hereabouts. Many thanks to all involved, and vine on! --

    Dead.Net Vines - What It Is & How It Works

    (We're changing some things for 2009)

    BACKGROUND: The concept of a "vine" is music sharing through conventional means (e.g. mailing cd's or dvd's) with the sign-up list being on-line. The basic idea is that someone starts (seeds) a vine, made up of one or multiple shows,and sends it via mail to the first person who signs up. That person makes a copy for themselves and sends the ORIGINAL media on to the next person on the list. As more people sign up, it continues to grow and grow - hence the name "vine".

    MINIMUM REQUIREMENTS: Make sure you can deal with the media format. Many vines are

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    Jerry Garcia & Co. at 710 Ashbury in Spring 1967 (Interview) + Richard Starlight's Radio Effluvia Both the interview and the filler came to me through FM radio broadcasts in the early-to mid-nineties. The audio quality reflects that, but for this project off-the-beaten path, I hope you will bear with it. I've never seen a complete tape of this justly famous interview on any torrent site. The tape does not fit on one disc, but takes up a mere 3.5 minutes on disc two. That leaves a huge amount of space for some fascinating filler I wanted to offer to you, the avid trader, some examples of the unconventional details of our homegrown subculture. Consider The filler the sonic equivalent of old, hand-drawn & photocopied J-cards, or much-loved, do-it-yourself concert tie-dyes. PART ONE The Taper's Compendium Vol. 1 lists this interview as 80 min. This copy is just over 83 minutes (or somewhere in there~~perhaps the author of that piece was estimating, too). For this tape db.etree lists only the what's available on the Acid Test Compliation set. That source is either different from this one or has been cleaned up considerably. It is woefully incomplete, however. Here is the complete interview for cleaning up. Lance Neal broadcast this source in the mid-ninties on the WBAI program "Morning Dew," and I taped it to cassette. Happily, the ATC soure patches tape flips from both Lance's source and my cassette made during the broadcast. Lance's source even sounds like a compliation to me. The quality is markedly different between noisy beginning and cleaner end. I dropped in many track breaks as I was transferring both sources to disc. This gives a chance to locate specific quotes or topics that may interest the researcher. I hope the abundance of them does not put anyone off too badly. This is a highly-entertaining historical document of life at 710. Pigpen, Mountain Girl, Weir (speaking, playing acoustic), and a child named Jason all appear at some point. Weir and someone who sounds like it might be Jon McIntire tell of the exploits of Bear and Laird Grant out on the streets in the Haight. (I thought I also heard Reddy Kilowatt asking a brief sarcastic question in passing early on.) Most entries on this interview are reluctant to date any more specifically than its year (1967), though internal markers set it in the spring. The February Newsweek article referenced in the conversation ("Drop-Outs with a Mission") was recent, the Dead were vaguely planning their June trip to NYC, and interviews were underway on the Look Magazine article featuring the Airplane at the end of May (though for some reason, jeffersonairplane.com lists this as appearing in March.) The film Blowup, released late in 1966, was apparently also still in the theaters. No one knows the identity of the interviewer, though on the tape he refers to his friend operating the tape recorder by name ("Kramer"). He also indicates that he himself was Garcia's former banjo student, is acquainted with the local bluegrass scene, and was in a band with Bay area guitarist and mandolinist Bert Johnson. He knows the ins and outs of the changes in personnel of Rick Shubb's band (before the Shubb capo days). Apparently this interviewer had also seen The Warlocks play at Magoo's Pizza Parlor in 1965! Perhaps his identity can still be discovered. Let the sound quality issues of this post serve as a call to locate the better master! (See Disc Two info below for a run-down of the special filler rounding out the disc.) FM Radio broadcast > cassette > CD with SHN to CD patches > EAC > FLAC JG@710 disc One (Interview) d1t01 - I Never Thought Garcia Would Go Electric! d1t02 - The Whereabouts of Bill Keith, Dave Grisman, Shubb's Band d1t03 - Garcia's Guitar Gear d1t04 - Hey, Pig d1t05 - Our Music d1t06 - Some Rock'n'Roll d1t07 - Surrealistic Pillow Sessions d1t08 - 'Someone to Love' d1t09 - Here's Your Pistol d1t10 - SF Sound d1t11 - v. English Groups d1t12 - SF Scene d1t13 - Forward Motion d1t14 - The Term 'Psychedelic' d1t15 - Control Over Your Product d1t16 - Artistic Pride d1t17 - Commercial Sound d1t18 - The Airplane and Great Ideas d1t19 - Would You Answer That Phone? d1t20 - Phonies at the Fillmore? d1t21 - 'Really People' d1t22 - Obvious Music & Reciprocal Excitement d1t23 - NYC Soon d1t24 - SF - Good Place to Live d1t25 - 'Drop-Outs with a Mission' d1t26 - Social Drop-Out d1t27 - Play, Not Teach d1t28 - Hold-Outs d1t29 - Gradual Changeover d1t30 - At Magoo's d1t31 - English Groups d1t32 - Long Hair d1t33 - Success d1t34 - Viet Nam and Anti-Life d1t35 - The Stupidity of Killing d1t36 - Illusory Power d1t37 - Get Along d1t38 - An Act of Love, An Act of Joy d1t39 - NY d1t40 - 'In' Things d1t41 - Buffalo Springfield, Moby Grape, Jefferson Airplane d1t42 - Jorma d1t43 - Matt Cates d1t44 - The Radio Stations Are Our Friends d1t45 - Program Directors and Monkees d1t46 - Top 10 Singles d1t47 - Our Album d1t48 - Future of SF Sound d1t49 - Stolen Gear - Spiritual Dues d1t50 - SF v. GV d1t51 - Do It Ourselves d1t53 - Light Shows d1t54 - Surviving d1t55 - Hell's Angels d1t56 - Pounded into the Ground d1t57 - They Found It! d1t58 - Do You Want Some Dope? d1t59 - Left Alone d1t60 - Danger d1t61 - What Are You Rejecting? d1t62 - Crunchy-Style Epiphone d1t63 - You Win the Oreo! d1t64 - Here Today, Gone Tomorrow d1t65 - Only Certain Ideas d1t66 - Cops = OK d1t67 - Do You Play Better on Dope? d1t68 - Legalize It d1t69 - Cigarette d1t70 - Sped-Up Rolls - Tell Her Jerry Sent You d1t71 - Bluegrass, Rock d1t72 - No Dime, No Nickel d1t73 - CaYooo, CaYoooo! d1t74 - Existentialism d1t75 - Flicks - Blowup - Coburn Offer d1t76 - Look Magazine d1t77 - Grace, the Airiplane, and Jazz JG@710 disc Two (Conclusion of Interview, first three tracks only) d2t01 - We Got Everything Back! d2t02 - Owsley's Rap, Big Medicine d2t03 - That's Your Gun PART TWO * * * Richard Starlight's Radio Effluvia "Radio Effluvia" is a lo-fi labor of love, a tribute to the days when for me tapes were a bit harder to come by, and local GD radio Shows were my main source. Here are some of the finest moments of several of those listener- sponsored broadcasts, mixed in with some homegrown treasures found as anonymous filler on the ends of tapes I copied from who knows who at some point who knows when. Here's to those Great Days when all this was still new and one still had to find a way in! FM broadcasts > cassettes > CD > EAC > FLAC d2t04 - Charles Atlas d2t05 - Thursday Lunch d2t06 - New Year's Lunch d2t07 - Jerry on TBWWP d2t08 - The Barbed-Wire Whipping Party d2t09 - Hello, There! d2t10 - Acid Test Overture d2t11 - Here Comes Healy d2t12 - Jerry Station IDs d2t13 - Phil for Morning Dew d2t14 - Tax- d2t15 - Deductible d2t16 - Charity d2t17 - Organizations d2t18 - LSD Window Pane d2t19 - %Music Is Love%% d2t20 - %Sunshine Daydrream%% d2t21 - %Dark Star%% d2t22 - Psychedelic Coke d2t23 - Michael from Mountains d2t24 - Sally Go Round Roses d2t25 - Chud d2t26 - Wake Up! d2t27 - Morning Dew Special d2t28 - GD Hour Titles d2t29 - Aoxo Ad (Dupree's) d2t30 - Ancient Past d2t31 - Lance for RAN d2t32 - Jerry Tribute Announcement d2t33 - Star Spangled Banger, Closing Remarks DISC TWO NOTES: t04) Bill Graham intro t05) Bob Young's "Thursday Lunch" program announcement from 1990 or 1991 on KPFK, 90.7 FM in Los Angeles t06) Bob Young announces "New Year's Lunch" on KPFK t07) Taped form "Thursday LUnch," with program's theme cart playing behind Source tape has Jerry being interviewed by another DJ at an unknown earlier time t08) TBWWP comes up as "Thursday Lunch" theme cart fades down t09) From Lance Neal's "Morning Dew" program on WBAI, 99.5 FM in New York City taped some time between 1993 and 1996 t10) I think that what I am here calling "Acid Test Overture" was originally broadcast by David Gans on "Dead to the WOrld" or the "Grateful Dead Hour." I taped it in the early- to mid-nineties on Lance Neal's "Morning Dew" program. Ken Kesey, Weir, Pig and the "More Power" rap from the Fillmore Acid Test, 01.08.66. Timothy Leary montage, including excerpts of Allen Ginsberg reading "Howl." Much else. Terrence McKenna excerpt. "I Did All My Acid. . ." : artist unknown. t11) WBAI program announcement, early- to mid-nineties t13) See note to track 11 t18) The story behind what I call "LSD Window Pane" is similar to track 10. t19) Excerpt: "Music Is Love" on David Crosby's If I Could Only Rember My Name t20) Tracks 19 & 20 sequenced like this on a tape I once copied from someone t21) Gorgeous Dark Star filler from who knows where on some tape I once had t22) Joni Mitchell from 1968 (perhaps) in Philadelphia (for sure) taped from Bob Young's show in LA during the wee hours of New Year's Day, 1991, which was the evening of a blue moon. t23) See note for track 22 t24) The Great Society (featuring Grace Slick), recorded at the Matrix in San Fransisco, 09-xx-1966. Same broadcast information as tracks 22 & 23. Fades up at the tail end of a Firesign Theater track from the Dear Friends album. t25) Home grown t26) Same broadcast information as track 11 t27) "Morning Dew" special produced by Randy Jackson and Lance Neal for WBAI, 99.5 FM NYC. Broadcast in the early- to mid-nineties. Includes interviews with Bonnie Dobson and the dubious Fred Rose. t28) Grateful Dead Hour intro from not to long ago t29) Better quality copy now available on Aoxomoxoa remaster (Golden Road box), along with other ads like this one t30, 31, 32) Same broadcast information as track 11 t33) From disc one of the Acid Test set from LAMA. Fillmore Acid Test. "Good Night. We've Enjoyed Having You Here." e pluribus effluvium May 2007 This will be as shown above, on 2 cdr`s WAV format . This is a really cool interview I hope you all enjoy this ! Stu .
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    Best of 79: The Godchauxs' Final Tour Here is the first installment of my Best of 79 project, presented both in SHN/FLAC and WAV. As discussed in the metatopic, I will convert ONE of the shows to WAV and I ask the first 3 people who sign up for this vine to convert and burn one show each, resulting in all 4 shows being in WAV format by the time the vine arrives to the 4th person. As per the title, I selected what I think are the 4 best shows from the tour. Suprisingly perhaps, I thought the early shows from the tour were the best (and not the more famous 1/20 and 2/3, although both second sets from those nights are very good). 1/7 and 1/8 are from MSG and are B+ AUDs. 1/10 and 1/11 are from Nassau Coliseum and are A AUDs. I tried not to let any NY bias influence my selections but whether it did is up for debate. The sources are: 1-07.aud.vernon.16467 1-08.gatto.glyde.10283 1-10.gatto.kempka.307 1-11.gatto.kempka.308
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    Here is the first installment of my Best of 79 project, presented both in SHN/FLAC and WAV. As discussed in the metatopic, I will convert ONE of the shows to WAV and I ask the first 3 people who sign up for this vine to will burn one show each, which will result in all 4 shows being in WAV format by the time the vine arrives to the 4th person. As per the title, I selected what I think are the 4 best shows from the tour. Suprisingly perhaps, I thought the early shows from the tour were the best (and not the more famous 1/20 and 2/3, although both second sets from those nights are very good). 1/7 and 1/8 are from MSG and are B+ AUDs. 1/10 and 1/11 are from Nassau Coliseum and are A AUDs. I tried not to let any NY bias influence my selections but whether it did is up for debate. The sources are: 1-07.aud.vernon.16467 1-08.gatto.glyde.10283 1-10.gatto.kempka.307 1-11.gatto.kempka.308
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    I was wondering when someone would post the new furthur shows. I tried to download them but my internet is just so dang slow. "You know the one thing we need is a left handed monkey wrench....."
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    Hi vine-loving friends! These shows need to be circulated for sure! They are flac on a DVD but if someone can convert them to wav for those who need that format it would be really cool and I am sure they would appreciate it. I just don't have the time to make all those CD's, perhaps I'm a bit lazy too :-) Furthur Fox Theatre Oakland, CA September 18, 2009 I: Phil & Bob Jam->The Other One->The Wheel->Jack Straw, The Music Never Stopped-> Birdsong->Born Cross-Eyed->Let It Grow II: Lost Sailor->Saint of Circumstance, Althea, Scarlet Begonias-> Fire on the Mountain, Saint Stephen->The Eleven->Terrapin Station-> Not Fade Away E: Touch of Grey One cd packing is: disc 1 up to & including s1t7 (born cross-eyed), disc 2 starting w/ s1t8(let it grow) up to & including s2t5 (fire), disc 3 start w/ s2t6 (saint stephen) September 19, 2009 I Jam->Bertha->Good Lovin', Estimated Prophet, Friend of the Devil, Feel Like a Stranger, Brown Eyed Women, Hell A Bucket II Jam->Shakedown Street->New Speedway Boogie->China Cat Sunflower-> I Know You Rider, Playing in the Band->Eyes of the World-> Unbroken Chain, Help on the Way->Slipknot!->Franklin's Tower E One More Saturday Night 1st set fits on a cd, 2nd cd up to and including s2t5(eyes), etc. September 20, 2009 Set 1: Samson & Delilah Casey Jones Mississippi ½ Step Sugaree Pride of Cucamonga Jam Throwing Stones Passenger Set 2: Viola Lee Blues Cumberland Blues Viola Lee Blues King Solomon’s Marbles Cassidy Jam Dark Star Welcome to the Dance * Dark Star Uncle John’s Band Sugar Magnolia donor Cosmic Charlie * new Phil song "I've stayed in every blue-light cheap hotel. Can't win for tryin. Dust off those rusty strings just one more time. Gonna make em shine."
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    There are a lot of good Nirvana shows out there, audience and sound boards. I picked these two because of their set list and the sound quality. NIRVANA August 27, 1991 Aladin (Überschall 91) Bremen, Germany DISC #1/1 (43:59) ----------------- 01) Something In The Way (cut) 02) Negative Creep 03) Been A Son 04) Blew 05) Polly 06) Rape Me 07) Pennyroyal Tea 08) School 09) Smells Like Teen Spirit 10) In Bloom 11) Come As You Are 12) Floyd The Barber 13) Endless, Nameless (cut) NIRVANA October 12, 1991 Cabaret Metro Chicago, IL DISC #1/1 (64:19) ----------------- 01) Jesus Wants Me For A Sunbeam 02) Aneurysm 03) School 04) Floyd The Barber 05) Drain You 06) Smells Like Teen Spirit 07) About A Girl 08) Breed 09) Polly 10) Sliver 11) Pennyroyal Tea 12) Love Buzz 13) Lithium 14) Been A Son 15) On A Plain 16) Negative Creep 17) Blew 18) Endless, Nameless This will have three audio cd's and a dvd with shn/flac files. Some of the songs on this vine are acoustic. They sound great and in my opinion are better than their commercial releases. This vine was a request by UncleJon so its already on its way to him. Enjoy! 1. UncleJon 2. 3.
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    As some of you may have seen, I posted in the metatopic an offer to seed a 4 show vine from 1979, with the first person to respond naming the shows and having the vine named after him. Beggar's Tomb responded and selected the following shows, which will be vined in BOTH SHN/FLAC and WAV: 79-02-09.aud-nak.glyde.13848 79-02-10.aud.glyde.13849 79-02-11.naks.vernon.16468 79-02-17.sbd.kempka There are the last 4 Donna & Keith shows. Three of them are AUDs. I have not listened to these shows yet. I have listened to all of the January shows and the first set of 2/3 so far (starting tomorrow off with what is supposed to be one of THE Scarlet > Fires!). Most of the shows I have listened to from this tour are good, some very good. The sound quality has been acceptable though not stellar (I graded most as B+ or A- for sound quality). It isn't until the fall tour that SBDs readily circulate and I may be wrong (ain't often right...), so don't quote me, but I seem to recall reading somewhere that the master reels for much of the year are missing from the vault. Oh, and I can't take credit for the vine name. Pomo1 suggested it. Thanks all!
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    I recently was given a great eclectic mix of live jazz and blues material and I wanted to share it. I haven't even listened to it yet, so I can't vouch for the quality. However, when you look at the titles, I know you will be impressed. Ten cds: 1. Miles Davis 11-7-73 (FM Broadcast); 2. Herbie Hancock, Carlos Santana, Wynton Marsalis, Ron Carter & Tony Williams, Tokyo Japan, 7-26-81 (SB); 3. Carlos Santana and Various Artists (including Bonnie Raitt, Jerry Garcia and Bob Weir)Blues For Salvador, Kaiser Auditorium, 1-23-88; 4. McCoy Tyner, Stanley Clarke & Billy Cobham, Blue Note NYC, 12-10-04 (early show); 5. Marvin Gaye, The Palladium, London, England, 10-31-76 (SB); 6. Alan Holdsworth, Jack Bruce, Billy Cobham, Didier Lockwood, Montreaux Jazz Festival, 7-23-82 (FM Broadcast); and 7. Dr. John, Montreaux Jazz Festival, 6-30-73. Enjoy! "Great spirits have always found violent opposition from mediocrities. The latter cannot understand it when a man does not thoughtlessly submit to hereditary prejudices but honestly and courageously uses his intelligence." Albert Einstein
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Was a student there at the time. Saw the JGB in Campbell Hall (76?),With collaboration from various kind folks in the Dead.net vining community, our own erickat prepared this handy guide explaining how vining works hereabouts. Many thanks to all involved, and vine on! --

Dead.Net Vines - What It Is & How It Works

(We're changing some things for 2009)

BACKGROUND: The concept of a "vine" is music sharing through conventional means (e.g. mailing cd's or dvd's) with the sign-up list being on-line. The basic idea is that someone starts (seeds) a vine, made up of one or multiple shows,and sends it via mail to the first person who signs up. That person makes a copy for themselves and sends the ORIGINAL media on to the next person on the list. As more people sign up, it continues to grow and grow - hence the name "vine".

MINIMUM REQUIREMENTS: Make sure you can deal with the media format. Many vines are

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......do you sleep? Is everything OK? "Circle songs and sands of time, and seasons will end in tumbled rhyme, and little change, the wind and rain."
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I maintain a vining spreadsheet - and have signed up for 31 - received 30, with an average turnaround time of less than one day. Also, the last vine i signed up for was in mid to late 2008. (ratdog never showed up - it's has been lost forever). You may be confusing vines received with vines started - which would push that number up pretty high for me.So - i wouldn't be a vine slut - but a vine sugardaddy
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I've been looking for 12-30-82 and 12-31-82 (with Etta James) also 12-31-90. Peace, Richard
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I am looking for Cumberland County Civic Center Spring 86' . Actually any shows on that East coast swing. "Circle songs and sands of time, and seasons will end in tumbled rhyme, and little change, the wind and rain."
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a top five vine slut. I didn't realize I'd stooped so low. I'm havin' a hard time believin' I am signed up for 39 vines I haven't received yet. Now I need to do some checking. I need to move the seedier side of the vine for awhile instead. Anyone interested in Los Lobos or Hot Tuna? Mark, get some sleep tonight. "when life looks like easy street, there is danger at your door"
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A massive Hornsby vine. I know that there is a lot already on here, but I am sure there are shows that we haven't covered after he left the Dead and would just sit in. How about a guest spot vine--classic shows with guests (Branford, Duane, Beach Boys...etc). Maybe not even complete shows but a compilation. Just a thought from vine slut #3!
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And it goes more quickly than you'd think. Yes, I do have a little more free time on my hands, and I've been catching up on Adult Swim. I can see how those Deadbase guys got sucked into this kind of stuff. sunshine-daydream, re: missing monsters - by missing I meant lost vines, not omitted shows. Keith's First Few Months; Autumn '72 pt. 1 September; Eurovine #4 US Branch; November '72 - all disappeared months ago. (the gig with Etta James sounds interesting though, loves me some Etta) erickat: Happy anniversary, looks like it's about a year that you've been here! That total vine number is the number of vines a viner is currently signed up for but hasn't received yet, not the total number the viner has *ever* signed up for. If it was I'd be up to over 130 completed + the ones I'm waiting on. In your case: you signed up for 31, received 30 so 31 - 30 = 1, which is what I show. I did note that I included the signup lists for the deceased vines (like the Ratdog vine) - I'll probably go back through and delete some of those, but maybe some of them will get restarted. I wasn't about to take the time to go through every post for every vine, I just found the most recent signup lists and started from there. I keep track of my own turnaround time, but I haven't calculated an average. Probably up to several days by now. I had a feeling that maybe people didn't realize how many vines they were signed up for, it kind of creeps up on you. Although, for example, fluffhead420 is near the top of the list now his number will start going down as the rate of vines he completes exceeds the rate of new vines he signs up for. There is probably some average "peak vine signup" number, where a steady-state is reached for a viner that signs up for all available vines. Looks like it might be in the mid 30's. The vine signup number I show may be a little high for some people, upon further review there are several where I've included vines that the viner may have in hand. I can get that info from a different spreadsheet, so for this one I only wanted to determine upcoming vines - however my data entry on the signup lists isn't consistent yet. I wish I had access to Access, now that the bulk data entry is done keeping things current isn't hard, and it would be trivial to generate reports like which vines a person is signed up for etc. I can extract that now but it takes a few minutes. If somebody wants a listing I'd be interested in quality checking my results. And the big caveat: the data comes from the postings in the forums, so GIGO. There's plenty of instances where a vine isn't posted as received until it's being sent out ("got this a few days ago, it's going out today"), or it is never posted as sent out ("got this today, it'll go out tomorrow"), or you don't see anything on a vine moving until it's magically skipped over a person. Cheers MitD ********************************************* ********Will work for blank discs & postage******** *********************************************
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I've definitely hit the track hard and fast as a vine slut...and I can accept this as it makes me feel happy inside. ;) :) ;D "Loose Lucy, she was sore, says I know you don't want my love no more, yeh-yeh yeh-yeh yeh-yeh yeh, singing, "Thank you, for a real good time!" "In a bed, in a bed, by the waterside I will lay my head. Listen to the river sing sweet songs, to rock my soul."
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Wow, I guess I have not been paying attention, but this is a 97% male dominated forum. What's up with that? We some females to balance this thing out. No wonder there's so much testosterone flying around in here....... "Circle songs and sands of time, and seasons will end in tumbled rhyme, and little change, the wind and rain."
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This quite the circle-jerkin' cockfest indeed. ;) "In a bed, in a bed, by the waterside I will lay my head. Listen to the river sing sweet songs, to rock my soul."
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And I am sure that description of the vineyard will do little to change that, haha, fluff. Two females, iknowurider and Kim, have participated here but I believe they have been busy with other things lately.
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Damnit! We are forever doomed now...what the hell was I thinking...? "Loose Lucy is my delight, she come runnin' and we ball all night, round and round and round and round and round and round and round, don't take much to get me on the ground." Lady(ies): Please ignore my previous post...this place is very gender diverse. :) "In a bed, in a bed, by the waterside I will lay my head. Listen to the river sing sweet songs, to rock my soul."
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I was talking about ying and yang brother........energy, not sex. "Circle songs and sands of time, and seasons will end in tumbled rhyme, and little change, the wind and rain."
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Pabogoniagirl1, Ami, Melinda, emily-j, and Paps. At least two of them are still actively vining. There's a little more Yin in our Yang than you might think. And this discussion certainly isn't going to boost the ratings... And then there's the most wonderful Marye... "when life looks like easy street, there is danger at your door"
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also posted. And we have the coolest woman as our moderator who always posts. "Let there be songs to fill the air."
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Very nice viners, they're here all the time. Emily may even get to go to her first show in Chicago, if she can talk her folks into it. That's pretty cool, a whole new generation getting into their *grandparent's* music - I think she's in high school. Didn't realize all you *married* dudes paid attention to the demographics here in the vineyard. Me, I'm still looking for the "Natural Girl Singles Site" to find the mud hippie of my dreams! ********************************************* ********Will work for blank discs & postage******** *********************************************
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Absolutely...me too...energy not sex...for sure. "In a bed, in a bed, by the waterside I will lay my head. Listen to the river sing sweet songs, to rock my soul."
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Oh how I'd like to see: Vine A: | Vine B: | 6-12-92 Albany | 10-1-94 Boston | 3-27-93 Albany | 10-2-94 Boston | 3-21-94 Richfield | 10-10-94 D.C. | 6-21-95 Albany | 10-14-94 MSG eight fabulous shows, don't see them vined..... ........... really good shows.... :)
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"Circle songs and sands of time, and seasons will end in tumbled rhyme,and little change, the wind and rain."
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Women just don’t tend to be the obsessive collectors that guys generally are. I’ll be honest - now it is vines. As a kid it was rocks and minerals, stamps, coins, insects, models, Matchbox cars (that must date me). As a teenager it became records. As an adult it has been books, journals and magazines, more books, Fillmore and Avalon postcards, records still and then CDs and now guitars and the newest is vines. OK out with it, I have admitted my obsessive collecting compulsions. What about yours? I suggest moving this topic over to Meet the Viners so we don’t clutter up this space any more. If the doors of perception were cleansed, everything would appear to man as it is, infinite. William Blake
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If nobody already has these, I'll go get them & put them out as a vine.it may take a couple of days to download them all from shnflac.net - since you can only request a re-seed once every 24 hours. 6-12-92 Albany 10-1-94 Boston 3-27-93 Albany 10-2-94 Boston 3-21-94 Richfield 10-10-94 D.C. 6-21-95 Albany 10-14-94 MSG
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on DVD+R (show details to follow once the vine has a home)downloads in progress - mostly FLAC 6-12-92 Albany 10-1-94 Boston 3-27-93 Albany 10-2-94 Boston 3-21-94 Richfield 10-10-94 D.C. 6-21-95 Albany 10-14-94 MSG
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Hello fellow viners and friendsI just want to explain my withdrawing from vining for bit. I have gotten a not so grate diagnosis from the dr. and will be having surgery in a week or so. I feel that I may not be able to be responsible with the vines in a timely manner, so I am going through and updating the lists. This is a part of my life that means the world to me, so I will be back vining asap. I will still be around posting and, most likely tracking vines, living vicariously through you all. Just wanted you all to know how much you mean to me and to thank you for a beautiful life experience. Everything should be ok, I will be back. peace and love, pk
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Here are 2 good shows from 1994 and 1995. I have talked to some heads who regard this period of the band as the pits. I have no plans to start an argument about that, but I generally like 1994 and 1995. Jerry’s voice sounds great in these shows, and there are no major lyric flubs that plague other shows during this period. This 1995 show is absolutely fantastic compared to other ’95 shows I have heard. There are great just-about flawless versions of Ship of Fools and Brokedown Palace that are worth getting, if for no other reason. The 1994 show has a flawless Terrapin. Help on the Way here is one of the best ‘90s versions I have heard. It is extremely tight, and you can hear the guitar chords. Vince does not have that sloppy keyboard stuff as heard in 1991 (i.e. Boston Garden 1991). Notes: 5 Audio CDs, seamless, DSB sources, excellent quality, the 1994 show I received has some songs combined together in the same track (see below) Boston Garden, Boston, MA (Saturday, 10/1/94) NOTES: DISC 1-Help on the Way/slipknot/Franklins Tower are combined as Track 1; Me & My Uncle/Big River combined as Track 4; DISC 2-- Scarlet Begonias/Fire on the Mountain combined as Track 1 DISC 1 Help on the Way -> Slipknot! -> Franklin's Tower Walkin' Blues Althea Me & My Uncle -> Big River Tom Thumb's Blues So Many Roads Promised Land DISC 2 (Set 2 Starts) Scarlet Begonias -> Fire on the Mountain Way to go Home Saint of Circumstance -> DISC 3 Terrapin -> Drums -> Space -> The Last Time -> Stella Blue -> One More Saturday Night E: Liberty RFK Stadium, Washington, D.C. (Sunday 6/25/95) Bruce Hornsby sat in on piano DISC 1 Shakedown Street Wang Dang Doodle Jack-A-Roe Mama Tried ->* Mexicali Blues* Loose Lucy Picasso Moon Box of Rain (Set 2 starts) Rain Sampson & Delilah Ship of Fools DISC 2 Truckin' -> Rollin' & Tumblin' Samba in the Rain -> Drums -> Space -> Wharf Rat -> Not Fade Away E: Brokedown Palace * Bobby on acoustic guitar
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Hang tough brother. Do your best to keep it positive. Hospitals suck. I have spent a lot of time in them in the last 3 years. I will keep sending the good vibes your way. Keep posting here. Maybe you can listen to all those new shows you have not had a chance to do so yet......
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Our prayers are with you. See you back in the Vineland soon. "Let there be songs to fill the air."
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Keep your spirits up - it can only help your health - and keep us in the loop - we're sending pre-operative wellbeams your way. Let us know if there's anything you need.
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pkpotter--Hope you get feeling better soon. I'll send my prayers your way. Hang in there.
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Directing wellbeams of health your way my man. Strength to you and your family during this time. If the doors of perception were cleansed, everything would appear to man as it is, infinite. William Blake
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Sorry to hear about that. I am sure we can hook you up with some vines that might have passed by. I am praying for you and a speedy recovery!
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Anybody heard from him?? I am waiting to receive a vine from him and have pm'd him and received no response. Let me know what you hear.
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Try to keep your spirits up , modern medicine is really icredible , most seem to be able to get you in and out pretty quick, so hang tough brother , we all love you man !! and please keep us posted on your condition .. our best wishes are with you .. and many well beams headin your way !! Take care ..Stu ..
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I will also be praying for you. I hope that everything goes as well as it possibly can. Get well soon and come back to the vineyard. Peace and Love, Trevor "You know the one thing we need is a left handed monkey wrench....."
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all good thoughts headed your way. Fast healing to you.
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Here is a fun little vine for the audio/techno heads out there. There are 2 versions of the 3/28/73 show - one is a stereo matrix and the other is a DTS 5.1 surround matrix. A 32 minute Dark Star in surround sound; sweet. Be sure to read the text file on the DTS show because there are some specific equipment requirements for playback (although burning the discs is just like any other audio discs)The 3/31/73 show is a Bertha Board remaster of the original SBD files; also very nice. This vine comes on one data DVD so if you are conversion impaired you might want to wait for someone to volunteer to burn the audio discs before signing up. First person on the list, PM me with an addy. Enjoy! Grateful Dead Civic Center Springfield, MA March 28, 1973 DTS-Audio-CD 5.1 Mix Set 1: d1t01 - Cumberland Blues d1t02 - Here Comes Sunshine d1t03 - Mexicali Blues d1t04 - Wave That Flag d1t05 - Beat It On Down The Line d1t06 - Loser d1t07 - Jack Straw d1t08 - Box Of Rain d1t09 - They Love Each Other d1t10 - El Paso d1t11 - Row Jimmy d1t12 - Around And Around d2t01 - Brown Eyed Women d2t02 - You Ain't Woman Enough d2t03 - Looks Like Rain d2t04 - China Cat Sunflower -> d2t05 - I Know You Rider Set 2: d2t06 - The Promised Land d2t07 - Loose Lucy d2t08 - Me And My Uncle d2t09 - Don't Ease Me In d2t10 - The Race Is On d2t11 - Stella Blue d2t12 - Big River d2t13 - Mississippi Half-Step Uptown Toodeloo d3t01 - Weather Report Suite Prelude -> d3t02 - Dark Star -> d3t03 - Eyes Of The World -> d3t04 - Playing In The Band d3t05 - Johnny B. Goode Grateful Dead Civic Center Springfield, MA March 28, 1973 SBD + AUD Matrix 2 Source Mix (65%-SBD/35%-AUD) Set 1: d1t01 - Cumberland Blues d1t02 - Here Comes Sunshine d1t03 - Mexicali Blues d1t04 - Wave That Flag d1t05 - Beat It On Down The Line d1t06 - Loser d1t07 - Jack Straw d1t08 - Box Of Rain d1t09 - They Love Each Other d1t10 - El Paso d1t11 - Row Jimmy d1t12 - Around And Around d2t01 - Brown Eyed Women d2t02 - You Ain't Woman Enough d2t03 - Looks Like Rain d2t04 - China Cat Sunflower -> d2t05 - I Know You Rider Set 2: d2t06 - The Promised Land d2t07 - Loose Lucy d2t08 - Me And My Uncle d2t09 - Don't Ease Me In d2t10 - The Race Is On d2t11 - Stella Blue d2t12 - Big River d2t13 - Mississippi Half-Step Uptown Toodeloo d3t01 - Weather Report Suite Prelude -> d3t02 - Dark Star -> d3t03 - Eyes Of The World -> d3t04 - Playing In The Band d3t05 - Johnny B. Goode Grateful Dead 3/31/73 War Memorial Auditorium Buffalo NY Bertha Remaster of the Master Cassette/Cassette source Set 1 d1t01 - Mississippi Half-Step d1t02 - The Race Is On d1t03 - Sugaee (splice @ 1:38) d1t04 - Mexicali Blues d1t05 - Box of Rain d1t06 - Tennessee Jed d1t07 - Jack Straw d1t08 - Big Railroad Blues d1t09 - El Paso d1t10 - Row Jimmy (cut @ beginning) d1t11 - Looks Like Rain d1t12 - They Love Each Other d2t01 - Playing in the Band (splice @ 12:53) Set 2 d2t02 - Promised Land >> d2t03 - Bertha >> d2t04 - Greatest Story Ever Told d3t01 - He's Gone >> d3t02 - Truckin' > Jam >> d3t03 - Drums >> d3t04 - The Other One >> d3t05 - Jam >> d3t06 - I Know You Rider d3t07 - Sugar Magnolia Encore d3t08 - Casey Jones
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Jerry 'n' Sting vine is here. Thanks to Oroboros for the heads up.
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but I'll put it out there for you to comment on. what if we started a PKPotter vine of a get well card that we all add our 2 cents to & then on a pre-determined date, we send to him. What do you think? ************************************* Prototype *************************************** Note - Our friend PKPotter is going into the hospital soon, and we wanted to get everybody to sign this card, so he has something physical in his room to remind him of us - so .... if you sign up, you will receive the card - which will have instructions inside. Add your comments & signature / whatever - and simply follow the instructions. ************************************* Prototype *************************************** and the instructions could have PK's address - so at a predetermined point, it could be just short circuited & mailed to him - otherwise, send it to the next person, just like a vine & everybody add witty comments & whatnot.
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ErickatThis is a capital idea. Go ahead and get it ready to roll so there is no delay when Marye posts it. Peace Rick
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Oh dude Erickat , that sounds like a most wonderfull idea !!! I`m definatley down with that ... I was thinking of somehow keeping him in the loop with the music too , I for one would be more than happy to burn him a copy of whichever particular vine and send it to him . as for his copy to keep .. but it would have to be somewhat organized , would`nt want him to get 3 or 4 copy`s of the same vines .. any ideas on that one ?? Peace & sunshine for our dear freind PK !! and for everyone else too ..
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I'd love to be a part of it..i'd be down to make him extra copies of vines I recv and send them to him as well...right on! Lemme know the details and I'll do what I can to help a fellow music lover. "In a bed, in a bed, by the waterside I will lay my head. Listen to the river sing sweet songs, to rock my soul."
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Pk is such a nice guy. Let me know what I can do. Peace, Trevor "You know the one thing we need is a left handed monkey wrench....."
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"Music would play and Felina would Whirl."
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we all want to help PK get through this. Lets come up with something special. Maybe a "Mega-Vine" just for him. "Let there be songs to fill the air."
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...encouraging you guys and all, but to just so there might be a little organization involved: Here is the list of vines *somebody* may have withdrawn from over the weekend (please don't get pissed at me *somebody*). *Somebody* stayed on the BCT/marye's vine, though - experienced severe withdrawal symptoms as you might imagine. A few of the vines don't currently exist, and I have the May '74, Carrier Dome, JGB Eel River, and Hampton/Harrisburg/San Rafael vines covered already. 1 ABB 9/28/04 Vine 2 April 1971 Vine 3 Autumn '72 Vine Part 1 September 4 BCT '86 Vine (AKA Marye's Vine) -- still signed up for this one 5 Carrier Dome 10-20-84 Vine -- I've done this one already 6 Dead/NRPS 1970 Vine 7 Elton John 10/1/71 Tokyo Bootleg Vine 8 Eurovine #1 - US Branch 9 Eurovine #5 U.S. Branch 10 Gruga Halle 3/28/81 Vine 11 Hampton/Harrisburg/San Rafael '84 Vine -- I've done this one already 12 Jazz Is Dead 7/22/99 Vine 13 JGB Eel River 1987 Vine -- I've done this one already 14 May 74 Vine -- I've got this one now 15 NYE '83 Vine 16 Phil Warfield Plus Eurovine 17 Rochester, NY 9/2/80 Vine 18 Rosemont Horizon 4/13,14,15/88 Vine 19 SEVA Benefit '94 Vine 20 St. Louis 8-4-82 Vine (Spoiled my darn surprise) ********************************************* *********Will work for blank discs & postage********** *********************************************
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Heres something else a little different. If you guys like these shows let me know and I can try to add a part 2. I belive that this one will be 7 audio discs. The Other Ones June 29th, 1998 East Rutherford, NJ NJ Meadowlands Breden Byrne Arena Hot tuna Opened Rusted Root supporting act Tapers Section floor section 5, row S, seat 2 Nak 300's > unknown deck > Marantz PMD430. recorded on 1 Maxell XL-IIS 110 cassette and 1 Maxell XL-IIS 90 cassette.(MAC) MAC > SBaudigy > Adobe Audition @24bits/44.1Khz. Adobe Audition: noise removal, click/pop eliminator, 16bit. CD wave: tracking. Trader's little helper: md5, ffp, flac. Set 1: 01 GDTRFB 02 Scarlet Begonias > 03 Fire on the Mountain 04 Walkin Blues (1) 05 Looks Like Rain @ 06 Mountains of the Moon @ * 07 Masterpiece @ 08 The way it is 09 Playin' in the band > 10 Corrina > (2) 11 Drums > 12 Aiko Aiko > 13 Playin' Jam > 14 St Stephen > 15 The Eleven > (3) 16 Lovelight Encore: 17 Ripple @ *last time played 7-12-69 @ acoustic (1) first flip after Walkin' Blues. (2) second flip during Corrina. (3) third flip after The Eleven. Bob, Phil, Mickey, Bruce Hornsby, Steve Kimock, Mark Karan, John Molo, Dave Ellis recorded and transferred by Chris LaPorte, CLaPorte@upstatetapers.org The Other Ones - June 30, 1998 Nassau Coliseum - Uniondale, NY Recording Info: SBD -> Dat -> CD Transfer Info: CD -> EAC -> FLAC (2 Discs Audio / 2 Disc FLAC) Converted to FLAC By Charlie Miller charliemiller87@earthlink.net September 2, 2005 notes: --disc 1->2 drums transition Setlist: d1t01 - Drums -> d1t02 - Mystery Train d1t03 - Minglewood Blues d1t04 - Jack-A-Roe d1t05 - Down The Road d1t06 - Tennessee Jed d1t07 - West L.A. Fadeaway -> d1t08 - Dark Star Jam -> d1t09 - Drums -> d2t01 - Drums -> d2t02 - Preacher in the Ring -> d2t03 - Dark Star -> d2t04 - Uncle John's Band -> d2t05 - Playing in the Band Reprise -> d2t06 - Throwing Stones -> d2t07 - Not Fade Away encores d2t08 - Box of Rain d2t09 - Touch of Grey The Other Ones Montage Mountain Scranton, PA July 08, 1998 Schoeps MK8 + MK21H>Schoeps KCY 250/05I active cable>Schoeps VMS02IB>Sony SBM-1>HHB PDR1000 Dat Master>Tascam DA-30MKII>Sound Devices 702>Soundforge 9 (Fades, Sample Rate Conversion)>CDWAV>FLAC Recorded By Keith Litzenberger & Jeff Travitz appox. 40ft from stage Disc 1: Hell In A Bucket Scarlet Begonias > Fire On The Mountain Mountains Of The Moon Minglewood Blues > Hound Dog Looks Like Rain Disc 2: Rainbow's Cadillac Bird Song > Drums > Space > The Other One > Wharf Rat > Touch Of Grey THE OTHER ONES Furthur Festival @ Shoreline Amphitheatre Mountain View, CALIFORNIA July 25 1998 ===================================== source: digital soundboard digitally remastered, edited & SHN(v3)'ed by BRUNO bruno@kabsi.at using a Mac G4 w/ Bias Peak 3.0 and various plugins ===================================== CD 1 ---------------------------------------------------------------- 01 Tuning 02 U.S.Blues 03 Playing In The Band => 04 The Other One * => 05 Ramble On Rose * 06 Down The Road * 07 Jack-A-Roe 08 Friend Of The Devil 09 Iko Iko * CD 2 ---------------------------------------------------------------- 01 China Cat Sunflower *# => 02 I Know You Rider *# => 03 Drums *# => 04 Preacher In The Ring => 05 Banyan Tree => 06 Corrina => 07 Playin' Jam * => 08 The Other One * => 09 Wharf Rat * CD 3 ---------------------------------------------------------------- 01 St.Stephen * => 02 The Eleven * => 03 Turn On Your Lovelight *+ 04 One More Saturday Night => 05 Touch Of Grey