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    Was a student there at the time. Saw the JGB in Campbell Hall (76?),With collaboration from various kind folks in the Dead.net vining community, our own erickat prepared this handy guide explaining how vining works hereabouts. Many thanks to all involved, and vine on! --

    Dead.Net Vines - What It Is & How It Works

    (We're changing some things for 2009)

    BACKGROUND: The concept of a "vine" is music sharing through conventional means (e.g. mailing cd's or dvd's) with the sign-up list being on-line. The basic idea is that someone starts (seeds) a vine, made up of one or multiple shows,and sends it via mail to the first person who signs up. That person makes a copy for themselves and sends the ORIGINAL media on to the next person on the list. As more people sign up, it continues to grow and grow - hence the name "vine".

    MINIMUM REQUIREMENTS: Make sure you can deal with the media format. Many vines are

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    Hello everyone . I call you all here today to talk about protecting the vines . I recently received a rather large vine , well actually a large envelope full of loose discs. When you are re-seeding or seeding a vine it would be nice to see the disc`s in some sort of protection , that way they last a good long time and get around to everyone. I also received a dvd vine that had 2 dvd`s shoved into one envelope, that`s cool . But at least insert a peice of paper or something between the disc`s so they don`t get all scrached up by each other (like these did).these disc``s do get bounced around a lot while they are in transit , and that don`t help them. the quality does deminish after so many miles, eventually they do get to where they can`t be copied at all. that has happenend to me once. So please be kind to the vines and let`s all help them get to everyone in one peice. The vines mentioned above will be taken care of well from me ,so let`s try to keep it that way . One more thing , Posting ! we`v all got to make sure that we post vine in vine out. And PM the person ahead of you to make sure they are still active, exspeicaly if we hav`nt seen that person post anything in a while. We had one recent incedent that hopefully is ,was taken care of . but it did cause quite a stir of bad vibes. Let`s try Not to let anything like that happen again. Let`s be kind to the vines ,(and each other) we are all caretakers 0f the vines let`s try to do the best we can . That is all . I hope everyone has a nice day ! ps: was that ok ? I did`nt point the finger at anyone so no one should take this to heart.. (nothing personal here)
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    I knew there was a reason I was compelled to gather these shows ( and all the shows I have)That is to share with my friends, so let’s get sharing. This will be a 2 DVD FLAC only vine due to time constrains. Enjoy your summer it only comes by once a year. Peace Rick ~:-) ~:-) ~:-) ~:-) ~:-) ~:-) ~:-) ~:-) ~:-) ~:-) ~:-) ~:-) ~:-) ~:-) gd90-07-16.sbd.miller.95782.sbeok.flac16 gd90-07-18.sbd.miller.95807.sbeok.flac16 gd90-07-19.sbd.walker.scotton.miller.95783.sbeok.flac16 gd90-07-21.sbd.walker.scotton.miller.95809.sbeok.flac16 gd90-07-22.sbd.walker.scotton.miller.95870.sbeok.flac16 gd90-07-23.sbd.walker.scotton.miller.95898.sbeok.flac16 ~:-) ~:-) ~:-) ~:-) ~:-) ~:-) ~:-) ~:-) ~:-) ~:-) ~:-) ~:-) ~:-) ~:-) Grateful Dead - July 16, 1990 Rich Stadium - Orchard Park, NY Recording Info: SBD -> Dat Master (48k) Transfer Info: Dat Master (Sony R500) -> Sound Devices 744T -> Samplitude Professional v10.1 -> FLAC (3 Discs Audio / 2 Discs FLAC) All Transfers and Mastering By Charlie Miller charliemiller87@earthlink.net November 13, 2008 Notes: -- Set 2 is seamless -- Thanks to Joani Walker and Paul Scotton for the tapes Set 1: d1t01 - Tuning d1t02 - Hell In A Bucket d1t03 - Mississippi Half-Step Uptown Toodleloo d1t04 - Blow Away d1t05 - Mama Tried -> d1t06 - Mexicali Blues d1t07 - Loose Lucy d1t08 - It's All Over Now d1t09 - High Time d1t10 - Let It Grow -> d1t11 - Don't Ease Me In Set 2: d2t01 - Tuning d2t02 - Sugar Magnolia -> d2t03 - Scarlet Begonias -> d2t04 - Man Smart, Woman Smarter d2t05 - Ship Of Fools d2t06 - Truckin' -> d2t07 - Drums -> d3t01 - Space -> d3t02 - The Wheel -> d3t03 - Gimme Some Lovin' -> d3t04 - Wharf Rat -> d3t05 - Around And Around -> d3t06 - Sunshine Daydream Encore: d3t07 - Brokedown Palace ~:-) ~:-) ~:-) ~:-) ~:-) ~:-) ~:-) ~:-) ~:-) ~:-) ~:-) ~:-) ~:-) ~:-) Grateful Dead - July 18, 1990 Deer Creek Music Center - Noblesville, IN Recording Info: Set 1: SBD -> Cassette Master -> ART DIO (24bit/96k) -> Sound Forge 7 -> CD Set 2: SBD -> Dat Master (48k) Transfer Info: Set 1: CD -> Samplitude Professional v10.1 -> FLAC Set 2: Dat Master (Sony R500) -> Sound Devices 744T -> Samplitude Professional v10.1 -> FLAC (3 Discs Audio / 2 Discs FLAC) All Transfers and Mastering By Charlie Miller charliemiller87@earthlink.net November 14, 2008 Patch Info: (FOB) Neumann KM54 -> Dat -> CD (shnid=7358) supplies: Help On The Way (0:00 - 0:11) Notes: -- Set 2 is seamless -- Set 1 is a remaster of shnid=26352 -- Thanks to Andy Lemieux, David Gans and David Hollister for Set 1 -- Thanks to Joani Walker and Paul Scotton for the Set 2 tape Set 1: d1t01 - Help On The Way -> d1t02 - Slipknot! -> d1t03 - Franklin's Tower d1t04 - New Minglewood Blues d1t05 - Easy To Love You d1t06 - Peggy-O d1t07 - When I Paint My Masterpiece d1t08 - Brown Eyed Women d1t09 - Cassidy d1t10 - Deal Set 2: d2t01 - Tuning d2t02 - China Cat Sunflower -> d2t03 - I Know You Rider -> d2t04 - Looks Like Rain -> d2t05 - Terrapin Station -> d2t06 - Drums -> d3t01 - Space -> d3t02 - The Other One -> d3t03 - Morning Dew Encore: d3t04 - The Weight ~:-) ~:-) ~:-) ~:-) ~:-) ~:-) ~:-) ~:-) ~:-) ~:-) ~:-) ~:-) ~:-) ~:-) Grateful Dead - July 19, 1990 Deer Creek Music Center - Noblesville, IN Recording Info: SBD -> Dat Master (48k) Transfer Info: Dat Master (Sony R500) -> Sound Devices 744T -> Samplitude Professional v10.1 -> FLAC (3 Discs Audio / 2 Discs FLAC) All Transfers and Mastering By Charlie Miller charliemiller87@earthlink.net November 13, 2008 Notes: -- Set 2 is seamless -- Thanks to Joani Walker and Paul Scotton for the tapes -- Most other circulating copies actually have a Hi-Fi VHS gen in them Set 1: d1t01 - Tuning d1t02 - Jack Straw d1t03 - They Love Each Other d1t04 - Desolation Row d1t05 - Row Jimmy d1t06 - Picasso Moon d1t07 - Althea -> d1t08 - The Promised Land Set 2: d2t01 - Tuning d2t02 - Victim Or The Crime -> d2t03 - Foolish Heart -> d2t04 - Playing In The Band -> d2t05 - China Doll -> d2t06 - Uncle John's Band -> d2t07 - Drums -> d3t01 - Space -> d3t02 - All Along The Watchtower -> d3t03 - Black Peter -> d3t04 - Not Fade Away Encore: d3t05 - U.S. Blues ~:-) ~:-) ~:-) ~:-) ~:-) ~:-) ~:-) ~:-) ~:-) ~:-) ~:-) ~:-) ~:-) ~:-) Grateful Dead - July 21, 1990 World Music Theatre - Tinley Park, IL Recording Info: SBD -> Dat Master (48k) Transfer Info: Dat Master (Sony R500) -> Sound Devices 744T -> Samplitude Professional v10.1 -> FLAC (3 Discs Audio / 2 Discs FLAC) All Transfers and Mastering By Charlie Miller charliemiller87@earthlink.net November 14, 2008 Notes: -- Set 2 is seamless -- Thanks to Joani Walker and Paul Scotton for the tapes Set 1: d1t01 - Tuning d1t02 - Touch Of Grey -> d1t03 - Greatest Story Ever Told d1t04 - Jack-A-Roe d1t05 - Walkin' Blues d1t06 - Friend Of The Devil d1t07 - Just A Little Light d1t08 - Queen Jane Approximately d1t09 - Bird Song Set 2: d2t01 - Tuning d2t02 - Scarlet Begonias -> d2t03 - Fire On The Mountain d2t04 - Playing In The Band -> d2t05 - He's Gone -> d2t06 - Drums -> d3t01 - Space -> d3t02 - I Need A Miracle -> d3t03 - Crazy Fingers -> d3t04 - Playing Jam -> d3t05 - Dear Mr. Fantasy -> d3t06 - Playing In The Band Reprise -> d3t07 - One More Saturday Night Encore: d3t08 - The Mighty Quinn (Quinn The Eskimo) ~:-) ~:-) ~:-) ~:-) ~:-) ~:-) ~:-) ~:-) ~:-) ~:-) ~:-) ~:-) ~:-) ~:-) Grateful Dead - July 22, 1990 World Music Theatre - Tinley Park, IL Recording Info: SBD -> Dat Master (48k) Transfer Info: Dat Master (Sony R500) -> Sound Devices 744T -> Samplitude Professional v10.1 -> FLAC (3 Discs Audio / 2 Discs FLAC) All Transfers and Mastering By Charlie Miller charliemiller87@earthlink.net November 16, 2008 Notes: -- Set 2 is seamless -- Thanks to Joani Walker and Paul Scotton for the tapes Set 1: d1t01 - Tuning d1t02 - Box Of Rain d1t03 - Feel Like A Stranger d1t04 - Loser d1t05 - Beat It On Down The Line d1t06 - West L.A. Fadeaway d1t07 - When I Paint My Masterpiece d1t08 - Far From Me d1t09 - Tennessee Jed d1t10 - Hell In A Bucket Set 2: d2t01 - Samson And Delilah d2t02 - Hey Pocky Way d2t03 - Estimated Prophet -> d2t04 - Eyes Of The World -> d2t05 - Drums -> d3t01 - Space -> d3t02 - The Wheel -> d3t03 - Gimme Some Lovin' -> d3t04 - Stella Blue -> d3t05 - Throwing Stones -> d3t06 - Turn On Your Lovelight Encore: d3t07 - Knockin' On Heaven's Door ~:-) ~:-) ~:-) ~:-) ~:-) ~:-) ~:-) ~:-) ~:-) ~:-) ~:-) ~:-) ~:-) ~:-) Grateful Dead - July 23, 1990 World Music Theatre - Tinley Park, IL Recording Info: SBD -> Dat Master (48k) Transfer Info: Dat Master (Sony R500) -> Sound Devices 744T -> Samplitude Professional v10.1 -> FLAC (3 Discs Audio / 2 Discs FLAC) All Transfers and Mastering By Charlie Miller charliemiller87@earthlink.net November 17, 2008 Notes: -- Set 2 is seamless -- Thanks to Joani Walker and Paul Scotton for the tapes Set 1: d1t01 - Tuning d1t02 - Cold Rain & Snow d1t03 - Picasso Moon d1t04 - Never Trust A Woman d1t05 - Stagger Lee d1t06 - Cassidy d1t07 - Truckin' -> d1t08 - Nobody's Fault But Mine Jam -> d1t09 - Smokestack Lightning Set 2: d2t01 - Tuning d2t02 - Victim Or The Crime -> d2t03 - Foolish Heart -> d2t04 - Man Smart, Woman Smarter -> d2t05 - Terrapin Station -> d2t06 - Drums -> d3t01 - Space -> d3t02 - All Along The Watchtower -> d3t03 - Standing On The Moon -> d3t04 - Around And Around -> d3t05 - Good Lovin' Encore: d3t06 - The Weight ~:-) ~:-) ~:-) ~:-) ~:-) ~:-) ~:-) ~:-) ~:-) ~:-) ~:-) ~:-) ~:-) ~:-)
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    If any of our bit torrenting friends (Rick, Bob, CB etal) are looking for suggestions, spring/summer '90 would be much appreciated. Off the top of my head, and ok, looking at my list, I believe the only official releases have been Dozin' At The Knick (3/24,25,26), Terrapin Limited and a download (not sure of dates), and the only vined shows have been Nassau (3/28,29,30), Atlanta (4/1), Eugene (6/23) and Louisville (7/6). Lots of good stuff in between. Thanks to all the above mentioned gentleman and everyone else who contributes here.
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    1991-03-21 Capital Centre, Landover, MD Source: SBD -> Dat -> Cassette Master (TDK SA-X100) D Lineage: Cassette Master (Nakamichi DR-1) -> Apogee MiniMe (24bit/48k) -> Transferred by: Charlie Miller Keywords: Soundboard; Charlie Miller Disc 1 1. Tuning 2. Mississippi Half-Step Uptown Toodeloo 3. Mexicali Blues -> 4. Big River 5. Candyman 6. Stuck Inside Of Mobile With The Memphis Blues Again 7. Bird Song Disc 2 1. Tuning 2. Victim Or The Crime -> 3. Scarlet Begonias -> 4. Fire On The Mountain -> 5. Stir It Up Jam -> 6. Drums 7. Space -> Disc 3 1. Goin' Down The Road Feeling Bad -> 2. Throwing Stones -> 3. Not Fade Away Encore: 4. Not Fade Away 5. Box Of Rain 1991-04-05 The Omni, Atlanta, GA 1. Tuning 2. Shakedown Street 3. New Minglewood Blues 4. Stagger Lee 5. Mama Tried 6. Mexicali Blues 7. Friend of the Devil 8. Queen Jane Approximately 9. deal Disc 2 1. Iko Iko 2. Saint Of Circumstance 3. Terrapin Station 4. Stir It Up Jam 5. Drums 6. Space Disc 3 1. The Other One 2. Wharf Rat 3. Throwing Stones 4. Not Fade Away 5. The Might Quinn
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    Started by Pomo1. I offer this interesting show from the Fillmore at Irving Plaza July 15, 2008 featuring the Mickey Hart Band with Steve Kimock, George Porter, Jr., Jen Durkin, Kyle Hollingsworth, Walfredo Reyes, Jr., and Sikiru Adepoju joining Mickey. disc 1/Set 1: 1. Maria Malito, Q104.3 DJ intro 2. Shakedown Street 3. Manila Farewell 4. Seven Seconds 5. Self Defense 6. Tolongo -> 7. Fountains of Wood 8. Eyes of The World -> 9. Good Lovin' disc 2/Set 2 (beg): 1. The Center 2. Strange World 3. Your House -> 4. The Other One -> 5. Arabian Wind -> 6. The Other One (reprise) -> 7. Sugaree disc 3/Set 2 (end): 8. Scarlet Begonias -> 9. Fire On The Mountain 10. encore break/band intros 11. Papa Was A Rolling Stone -> 12. Iko Iko "One watch by night, one watch by day If you get confused, listen to the music play"
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    Some nice video from the epic year of 1989. This takes 9 DVDs in total, all shows complete. If you click on my "name", you'll see in the fan photo section screen shots from each show to get an idea of the quality (7/7 is better than the screen shot makes it look). 6/21/89 -- proshot vid with soundboard audio (taken from pay-per-view broadcast). 7/7/89 -- audience shot vid on tripod with Healy matrix audio. 10/9/89 -- audience shot vid on tripod with sbd audio. Here's hoping that before this vine runs its course, we'll pull the 7/7 discs once that show is officially released on DVD! I'll include the technical details with the discs.
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    Okay, I just got a PM from one of the viners who is very concerned because someone outside North America is signing up for a lot of vines, creating the situation of longer-than-usual turnaround. We created the Eurovines topic for the Euros to minimize these transit times, and we heartily encourage folks to use it. Now, I am not going to tell you guys what to do and in particular I am not going to micromanage the vines. However, it might make sense, when you're signing up for a vine, to identify yourself as living in a faraway place, if you do. So that, for example, the seeder of the vine or someone on the vine might just make an extra copy and send it to you and you can vine it on your own continent. Like I said, do what you want. But, fwiw.
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Was a student there at the time. Saw the JGB in Campbell Hall (76?),With collaboration from various kind folks in the Dead.net vining community, our own erickat prepared this handy guide explaining how vining works hereabouts. Many thanks to all involved, and vine on! --

Dead.Net Vines - What It Is & How It Works

(We're changing some things for 2009)

BACKGROUND: The concept of a "vine" is music sharing through conventional means (e.g. mailing cd's or dvd's) with the sign-up list being on-line. The basic idea is that someone starts (seeds) a vine, made up of one or multiple shows,and sends it via mail to the first person who signs up. That person makes a copy for themselves and sends the ORIGINAL media on to the next person on the list. As more people sign up, it continues to grow and grow - hence the name "vine".

MINIMUM REQUIREMENTS: Make sure you can deal with the media format. Many vines are

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......do you sleep? Is everything OK? "Circle songs and sands of time, and seasons will end in tumbled rhyme, and little change, the wind and rain."
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I maintain a vining spreadsheet - and have signed up for 31 - received 30, with an average turnaround time of less than one day. Also, the last vine i signed up for was in mid to late 2008. (ratdog never showed up - it's has been lost forever). You may be confusing vines received with vines started - which would push that number up pretty high for me.So - i wouldn't be a vine slut - but a vine sugardaddy
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I've been looking for 12-30-82 and 12-31-82 (with Etta James) also 12-31-90. Peace, Richard
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I am looking for Cumberland County Civic Center Spring 86' . Actually any shows on that East coast swing. "Circle songs and sands of time, and seasons will end in tumbled rhyme, and little change, the wind and rain."
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a top five vine slut. I didn't realize I'd stooped so low. I'm havin' a hard time believin' I am signed up for 39 vines I haven't received yet. Now I need to do some checking. I need to move the seedier side of the vine for awhile instead. Anyone interested in Los Lobos or Hot Tuna? Mark, get some sleep tonight. "when life looks like easy street, there is danger at your door"
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A massive Hornsby vine. I know that there is a lot already on here, but I am sure there are shows that we haven't covered after he left the Dead and would just sit in. How about a guest spot vine--classic shows with guests (Branford, Duane, Beach Boys...etc). Maybe not even complete shows but a compilation. Just a thought from vine slut #3!
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And it goes more quickly than you'd think. Yes, I do have a little more free time on my hands, and I've been catching up on Adult Swim. I can see how those Deadbase guys got sucked into this kind of stuff. sunshine-daydream, re: missing monsters - by missing I meant lost vines, not omitted shows. Keith's First Few Months; Autumn '72 pt. 1 September; Eurovine #4 US Branch; November '72 - all disappeared months ago. (the gig with Etta James sounds interesting though, loves me some Etta) erickat: Happy anniversary, looks like it's about a year that you've been here! That total vine number is the number of vines a viner is currently signed up for but hasn't received yet, not the total number the viner has *ever* signed up for. If it was I'd be up to over 130 completed + the ones I'm waiting on. In your case: you signed up for 31, received 30 so 31 - 30 = 1, which is what I show. I did note that I included the signup lists for the deceased vines (like the Ratdog vine) - I'll probably go back through and delete some of those, but maybe some of them will get restarted. I wasn't about to take the time to go through every post for every vine, I just found the most recent signup lists and started from there. I keep track of my own turnaround time, but I haven't calculated an average. Probably up to several days by now. I had a feeling that maybe people didn't realize how many vines they were signed up for, it kind of creeps up on you. Although, for example, fluffhead420 is near the top of the list now his number will start going down as the rate of vines he completes exceeds the rate of new vines he signs up for. There is probably some average "peak vine signup" number, where a steady-state is reached for a viner that signs up for all available vines. Looks like it might be in the mid 30's. The vine signup number I show may be a little high for some people, upon further review there are several where I've included vines that the viner may have in hand. I can get that info from a different spreadsheet, so for this one I only wanted to determine upcoming vines - however my data entry on the signup lists isn't consistent yet. I wish I had access to Access, now that the bulk data entry is done keeping things current isn't hard, and it would be trivial to generate reports like which vines a person is signed up for etc. I can extract that now but it takes a few minutes. If somebody wants a listing I'd be interested in quality checking my results. And the big caveat: the data comes from the postings in the forums, so GIGO. There's plenty of instances where a vine isn't posted as received until it's being sent out ("got this a few days ago, it's going out today"), or it is never posted as sent out ("got this today, it'll go out tomorrow"), or you don't see anything on a vine moving until it's magically skipped over a person. Cheers MitD ********************************************* ********Will work for blank discs & postage******** *********************************************
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I've definitely hit the track hard and fast as a vine slut...and I can accept this as it makes me feel happy inside. ;) :) ;D "Loose Lucy, she was sore, says I know you don't want my love no more, yeh-yeh yeh-yeh yeh-yeh yeh, singing, "Thank you, for a real good time!" "In a bed, in a bed, by the waterside I will lay my head. Listen to the river sing sweet songs, to rock my soul."
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Wow, I guess I have not been paying attention, but this is a 97% male dominated forum. What's up with that? We some females to balance this thing out. No wonder there's so much testosterone flying around in here....... "Circle songs and sands of time, and seasons will end in tumbled rhyme, and little change, the wind and rain."
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This quite the circle-jerkin' cockfest indeed. ;) "In a bed, in a bed, by the waterside I will lay my head. Listen to the river sing sweet songs, to rock my soul."
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And I am sure that description of the vineyard will do little to change that, haha, fluff. Two females, iknowurider and Kim, have participated here but I believe they have been busy with other things lately.
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Damnit! We are forever doomed now...what the hell was I thinking...? "Loose Lucy is my delight, she come runnin' and we ball all night, round and round and round and round and round and round and round, don't take much to get me on the ground." Lady(ies): Please ignore my previous post...this place is very gender diverse. :) "In a bed, in a bed, by the waterside I will lay my head. Listen to the river sing sweet songs, to rock my soul."
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I was talking about ying and yang brother........energy, not sex. "Circle songs and sands of time, and seasons will end in tumbled rhyme, and little change, the wind and rain."
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Pabogoniagirl1, Ami, Melinda, emily-j, and Paps. At least two of them are still actively vining. There's a little more Yin in our Yang than you might think. And this discussion certainly isn't going to boost the ratings... And then there's the most wonderful Marye... "when life looks like easy street, there is danger at your door"
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also posted. And we have the coolest woman as our moderator who always posts. "Let there be songs to fill the air."
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Very nice viners, they're here all the time. Emily may even get to go to her first show in Chicago, if she can talk her folks into it. That's pretty cool, a whole new generation getting into their *grandparent's* music - I think she's in high school. Didn't realize all you *married* dudes paid attention to the demographics here in the vineyard. Me, I'm still looking for the "Natural Girl Singles Site" to find the mud hippie of my dreams! ********************************************* ********Will work for blank discs & postage******** *********************************************
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Absolutely...me too...energy not sex...for sure. "In a bed, in a bed, by the waterside I will lay my head. Listen to the river sing sweet songs, to rock my soul."
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Oh how I'd like to see: Vine A: | Vine B: | 6-12-92 Albany | 10-1-94 Boston | 3-27-93 Albany | 10-2-94 Boston | 3-21-94 Richfield | 10-10-94 D.C. | 6-21-95 Albany | 10-14-94 MSG eight fabulous shows, don't see them vined..... ........... really good shows.... :)
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"Circle songs and sands of time, and seasons will end in tumbled rhyme,and little change, the wind and rain."
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Women just don’t tend to be the obsessive collectors that guys generally are. I’ll be honest - now it is vines. As a kid it was rocks and minerals, stamps, coins, insects, models, Matchbox cars (that must date me). As a teenager it became records. As an adult it has been books, journals and magazines, more books, Fillmore and Avalon postcards, records still and then CDs and now guitars and the newest is vines. OK out with it, I have admitted my obsessive collecting compulsions. What about yours? I suggest moving this topic over to Meet the Viners so we don’t clutter up this space any more. If the doors of perception were cleansed, everything would appear to man as it is, infinite. William Blake
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If nobody already has these, I'll go get them & put them out as a vine.it may take a couple of days to download them all from shnflac.net - since you can only request a re-seed once every 24 hours. 6-12-92 Albany 10-1-94 Boston 3-27-93 Albany 10-2-94 Boston 3-21-94 Richfield 10-10-94 D.C. 6-21-95 Albany 10-14-94 MSG
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on DVD+R (show details to follow once the vine has a home)downloads in progress - mostly FLAC 6-12-92 Albany 10-1-94 Boston 3-27-93 Albany 10-2-94 Boston 3-21-94 Richfield 10-10-94 D.C. 6-21-95 Albany 10-14-94 MSG
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Hello fellow viners and friendsI just want to explain my withdrawing from vining for bit. I have gotten a not so grate diagnosis from the dr. and will be having surgery in a week or so. I feel that I may not be able to be responsible with the vines in a timely manner, so I am going through and updating the lists. This is a part of my life that means the world to me, so I will be back vining asap. I will still be around posting and, most likely tracking vines, living vicariously through you all. Just wanted you all to know how much you mean to me and to thank you for a beautiful life experience. Everything should be ok, I will be back. peace and love, pk
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Here are 2 good shows from 1994 and 1995. I have talked to some heads who regard this period of the band as the pits. I have no plans to start an argument about that, but I generally like 1994 and 1995. Jerry’s voice sounds great in these shows, and there are no major lyric flubs that plague other shows during this period. This 1995 show is absolutely fantastic compared to other ’95 shows I have heard. There are great just-about flawless versions of Ship of Fools and Brokedown Palace that are worth getting, if for no other reason. The 1994 show has a flawless Terrapin. Help on the Way here is one of the best ‘90s versions I have heard. It is extremely tight, and you can hear the guitar chords. Vince does not have that sloppy keyboard stuff as heard in 1991 (i.e. Boston Garden 1991). Notes: 5 Audio CDs, seamless, DSB sources, excellent quality, the 1994 show I received has some songs combined together in the same track (see below) Boston Garden, Boston, MA (Saturday, 10/1/94) NOTES: DISC 1-Help on the Way/slipknot/Franklins Tower are combined as Track 1; Me & My Uncle/Big River combined as Track 4; DISC 2-- Scarlet Begonias/Fire on the Mountain combined as Track 1 DISC 1 Help on the Way -> Slipknot! -> Franklin's Tower Walkin' Blues Althea Me & My Uncle -> Big River Tom Thumb's Blues So Many Roads Promised Land DISC 2 (Set 2 Starts) Scarlet Begonias -> Fire on the Mountain Way to go Home Saint of Circumstance -> DISC 3 Terrapin -> Drums -> Space -> The Last Time -> Stella Blue -> One More Saturday Night E: Liberty RFK Stadium, Washington, D.C. (Sunday 6/25/95) Bruce Hornsby sat in on piano DISC 1 Shakedown Street Wang Dang Doodle Jack-A-Roe Mama Tried ->* Mexicali Blues* Loose Lucy Picasso Moon Box of Rain (Set 2 starts) Rain Sampson & Delilah Ship of Fools DISC 2 Truckin' -> Rollin' & Tumblin' Samba in the Rain -> Drums -> Space -> Wharf Rat -> Not Fade Away E: Brokedown Palace * Bobby on acoustic guitar
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Hang tough brother. Do your best to keep it positive. Hospitals suck. I have spent a lot of time in them in the last 3 years. I will keep sending the good vibes your way. Keep posting here. Maybe you can listen to all those new shows you have not had a chance to do so yet......
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Our prayers are with you. See you back in the Vineland soon. "Let there be songs to fill the air."
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Keep your spirits up - it can only help your health - and keep us in the loop - we're sending pre-operative wellbeams your way. Let us know if there's anything you need.
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pkpotter--Hope you get feeling better soon. I'll send my prayers your way. Hang in there.
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Directing wellbeams of health your way my man. Strength to you and your family during this time. If the doors of perception were cleansed, everything would appear to man as it is, infinite. William Blake
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Sorry to hear about that. I am sure we can hook you up with some vines that might have passed by. I am praying for you and a speedy recovery!
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Anybody heard from him?? I am waiting to receive a vine from him and have pm'd him and received no response. Let me know what you hear.
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Try to keep your spirits up , modern medicine is really icredible , most seem to be able to get you in and out pretty quick, so hang tough brother , we all love you man !! and please keep us posted on your condition .. our best wishes are with you .. and many well beams headin your way !! Take care ..Stu ..
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I will also be praying for you. I hope that everything goes as well as it possibly can. Get well soon and come back to the vineyard. Peace and Love, Trevor "You know the one thing we need is a left handed monkey wrench....."
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all good thoughts headed your way. Fast healing to you.
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Here is a fun little vine for the audio/techno heads out there. There are 2 versions of the 3/28/73 show - one is a stereo matrix and the other is a DTS 5.1 surround matrix. A 32 minute Dark Star in surround sound; sweet. Be sure to read the text file on the DTS show because there are some specific equipment requirements for playback (although burning the discs is just like any other audio discs)The 3/31/73 show is a Bertha Board remaster of the original SBD files; also very nice. This vine comes on one data DVD so if you are conversion impaired you might want to wait for someone to volunteer to burn the audio discs before signing up. First person on the list, PM me with an addy. Enjoy! Grateful Dead Civic Center Springfield, MA March 28, 1973 DTS-Audio-CD 5.1 Mix Set 1: d1t01 - Cumberland Blues d1t02 - Here Comes Sunshine d1t03 - Mexicali Blues d1t04 - Wave That Flag d1t05 - Beat It On Down The Line d1t06 - Loser d1t07 - Jack Straw d1t08 - Box Of Rain d1t09 - They Love Each Other d1t10 - El Paso d1t11 - Row Jimmy d1t12 - Around And Around d2t01 - Brown Eyed Women d2t02 - You Ain't Woman Enough d2t03 - Looks Like Rain d2t04 - China Cat Sunflower -> d2t05 - I Know You Rider Set 2: d2t06 - The Promised Land d2t07 - Loose Lucy d2t08 - Me And My Uncle d2t09 - Don't Ease Me In d2t10 - The Race Is On d2t11 - Stella Blue d2t12 - Big River d2t13 - Mississippi Half-Step Uptown Toodeloo d3t01 - Weather Report Suite Prelude -> d3t02 - Dark Star -> d3t03 - Eyes Of The World -> d3t04 - Playing In The Band d3t05 - Johnny B. Goode Grateful Dead Civic Center Springfield, MA March 28, 1973 SBD + AUD Matrix 2 Source Mix (65%-SBD/35%-AUD) Set 1: d1t01 - Cumberland Blues d1t02 - Here Comes Sunshine d1t03 - Mexicali Blues d1t04 - Wave That Flag d1t05 - Beat It On Down The Line d1t06 - Loser d1t07 - Jack Straw d1t08 - Box Of Rain d1t09 - They Love Each Other d1t10 - El Paso d1t11 - Row Jimmy d1t12 - Around And Around d2t01 - Brown Eyed Women d2t02 - You Ain't Woman Enough d2t03 - Looks Like Rain d2t04 - China Cat Sunflower -> d2t05 - I Know You Rider Set 2: d2t06 - The Promised Land d2t07 - Loose Lucy d2t08 - Me And My Uncle d2t09 - Don't Ease Me In d2t10 - The Race Is On d2t11 - Stella Blue d2t12 - Big River d2t13 - Mississippi Half-Step Uptown Toodeloo d3t01 - Weather Report Suite Prelude -> d3t02 - Dark Star -> d3t03 - Eyes Of The World -> d3t04 - Playing In The Band d3t05 - Johnny B. Goode Grateful Dead 3/31/73 War Memorial Auditorium Buffalo NY Bertha Remaster of the Master Cassette/Cassette source Set 1 d1t01 - Mississippi Half-Step d1t02 - The Race Is On d1t03 - Sugaee (splice @ 1:38) d1t04 - Mexicali Blues d1t05 - Box of Rain d1t06 - Tennessee Jed d1t07 - Jack Straw d1t08 - Big Railroad Blues d1t09 - El Paso d1t10 - Row Jimmy (cut @ beginning) d1t11 - Looks Like Rain d1t12 - They Love Each Other d2t01 - Playing in the Band (splice @ 12:53) Set 2 d2t02 - Promised Land >> d2t03 - Bertha >> d2t04 - Greatest Story Ever Told d3t01 - He's Gone >> d3t02 - Truckin' > Jam >> d3t03 - Drums >> d3t04 - The Other One >> d3t05 - Jam >> d3t06 - I Know You Rider d3t07 - Sugar Magnolia Encore d3t08 - Casey Jones
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Jerry 'n' Sting vine is here. Thanks to Oroboros for the heads up.
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but I'll put it out there for you to comment on. what if we started a PKPotter vine of a get well card that we all add our 2 cents to & then on a pre-determined date, we send to him. What do you think? ************************************* Prototype *************************************** Note - Our friend PKPotter is going into the hospital soon, and we wanted to get everybody to sign this card, so he has something physical in his room to remind him of us - so .... if you sign up, you will receive the card - which will have instructions inside. Add your comments & signature / whatever - and simply follow the instructions. ************************************* Prototype *************************************** and the instructions could have PK's address - so at a predetermined point, it could be just short circuited & mailed to him - otherwise, send it to the next person, just like a vine & everybody add witty comments & whatnot.
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ErickatThis is a capital idea. Go ahead and get it ready to roll so there is no delay when Marye posts it. Peace Rick
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Oh dude Erickat , that sounds like a most wonderfull idea !!! I`m definatley down with that ... I was thinking of somehow keeping him in the loop with the music too , I for one would be more than happy to burn him a copy of whichever particular vine and send it to him . as for his copy to keep .. but it would have to be somewhat organized , would`nt want him to get 3 or 4 copy`s of the same vines .. any ideas on that one ?? Peace & sunshine for our dear freind PK !! and for everyone else too ..
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I'd love to be a part of it..i'd be down to make him extra copies of vines I recv and send them to him as well...right on! Lemme know the details and I'll do what I can to help a fellow music lover. "In a bed, in a bed, by the waterside I will lay my head. Listen to the river sing sweet songs, to rock my soul."
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Pk is such a nice guy. Let me know what I can do. Peace, Trevor "You know the one thing we need is a left handed monkey wrench....."
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"Music would play and Felina would Whirl."
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we all want to help PK get through this. Lets come up with something special. Maybe a "Mega-Vine" just for him. "Let there be songs to fill the air."
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...encouraging you guys and all, but to just so there might be a little organization involved: Here is the list of vines *somebody* may have withdrawn from over the weekend (please don't get pissed at me *somebody*). *Somebody* stayed on the BCT/marye's vine, though - experienced severe withdrawal symptoms as you might imagine. A few of the vines don't currently exist, and I have the May '74, Carrier Dome, JGB Eel River, and Hampton/Harrisburg/San Rafael vines covered already. 1 ABB 9/28/04 Vine 2 April 1971 Vine 3 Autumn '72 Vine Part 1 September 4 BCT '86 Vine (AKA Marye's Vine) -- still signed up for this one 5 Carrier Dome 10-20-84 Vine -- I've done this one already 6 Dead/NRPS 1970 Vine 7 Elton John 10/1/71 Tokyo Bootleg Vine 8 Eurovine #1 - US Branch 9 Eurovine #5 U.S. Branch 10 Gruga Halle 3/28/81 Vine 11 Hampton/Harrisburg/San Rafael '84 Vine -- I've done this one already 12 Jazz Is Dead 7/22/99 Vine 13 JGB Eel River 1987 Vine -- I've done this one already 14 May 74 Vine -- I've got this one now 15 NYE '83 Vine 16 Phil Warfield Plus Eurovine 17 Rochester, NY 9/2/80 Vine 18 Rosemont Horizon 4/13,14,15/88 Vine 19 SEVA Benefit '94 Vine 20 St. Louis 8-4-82 Vine (Spoiled my darn surprise) ********************************************* *********Will work for blank discs & postage********** *********************************************
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Heres something else a little different. If you guys like these shows let me know and I can try to add a part 2. I belive that this one will be 7 audio discs. The Other Ones June 29th, 1998 East Rutherford, NJ NJ Meadowlands Breden Byrne Arena Hot tuna Opened Rusted Root supporting act Tapers Section floor section 5, row S, seat 2 Nak 300's > unknown deck > Marantz PMD430. recorded on 1 Maxell XL-IIS 110 cassette and 1 Maxell XL-IIS 90 cassette.(MAC) MAC > SBaudigy > Adobe Audition @24bits/44.1Khz. Adobe Audition: noise removal, click/pop eliminator, 16bit. CD wave: tracking. Trader's little helper: md5, ffp, flac. Set 1: 01 GDTRFB 02 Scarlet Begonias > 03 Fire on the Mountain 04 Walkin Blues (1) 05 Looks Like Rain @ 06 Mountains of the Moon @ * 07 Masterpiece @ 08 The way it is 09 Playin' in the band > 10 Corrina > (2) 11 Drums > 12 Aiko Aiko > 13 Playin' Jam > 14 St Stephen > 15 The Eleven > (3) 16 Lovelight Encore: 17 Ripple @ *last time played 7-12-69 @ acoustic (1) first flip after Walkin' Blues. (2) second flip during Corrina. (3) third flip after The Eleven. Bob, Phil, Mickey, Bruce Hornsby, Steve Kimock, Mark Karan, John Molo, Dave Ellis recorded and transferred by Chris LaPorte, CLaPorte@upstatetapers.org The Other Ones - June 30, 1998 Nassau Coliseum - Uniondale, NY Recording Info: SBD -> Dat -> CD Transfer Info: CD -> EAC -> FLAC (2 Discs Audio / 2 Disc FLAC) Converted to FLAC By Charlie Miller charliemiller87@earthlink.net September 2, 2005 notes: --disc 1->2 drums transition Setlist: d1t01 - Drums -> d1t02 - Mystery Train d1t03 - Minglewood Blues d1t04 - Jack-A-Roe d1t05 - Down The Road d1t06 - Tennessee Jed d1t07 - West L.A. Fadeaway -> d1t08 - Dark Star Jam -> d1t09 - Drums -> d2t01 - Drums -> d2t02 - Preacher in the Ring -> d2t03 - Dark Star -> d2t04 - Uncle John's Band -> d2t05 - Playing in the Band Reprise -> d2t06 - Throwing Stones -> d2t07 - Not Fade Away encores d2t08 - Box of Rain d2t09 - Touch of Grey The Other Ones Montage Mountain Scranton, PA July 08, 1998 Schoeps MK8 + MK21H>Schoeps KCY 250/05I active cable>Schoeps VMS02IB>Sony SBM-1>HHB PDR1000 Dat Master>Tascam DA-30MKII>Sound Devices 702>Soundforge 9 (Fades, Sample Rate Conversion)>CDWAV>FLAC Recorded By Keith Litzenberger & Jeff Travitz appox. 40ft from stage Disc 1: Hell In A Bucket Scarlet Begonias > Fire On The Mountain Mountains Of The Moon Minglewood Blues > Hound Dog Looks Like Rain Disc 2: Rainbow's Cadillac Bird Song > Drums > Space > The Other One > Wharf Rat > Touch Of Grey THE OTHER ONES Furthur Festival @ Shoreline Amphitheatre Mountain View, CALIFORNIA July 25 1998 ===================================== source: digital soundboard digitally remastered, edited & SHN(v3)'ed by BRUNO bruno@kabsi.at using a Mac G4 w/ Bias Peak 3.0 and various plugins ===================================== CD 1 ---------------------------------------------------------------- 01 Tuning 02 U.S.Blues 03 Playing In The Band => 04 The Other One * => 05 Ramble On Rose * 06 Down The Road * 07 Jack-A-Roe 08 Friend Of The Devil 09 Iko Iko * CD 2 ---------------------------------------------------------------- 01 China Cat Sunflower *# => 02 I Know You Rider *# => 03 Drums *# => 04 Preacher In The Ring => 05 Banyan Tree => 06 Corrina => 07 Playin' Jam * => 08 The Other One * => 09 Wharf Rat * CD 3 ---------------------------------------------------------------- 01 St.Stephen * => 02 The Eleven * => 03 Turn On Your Lovelight *+ 04 One More Saturday Night => 05 Touch Of Grey