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  • c_c
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    did we??
    did we ever get the song parody topic? couldn'T find it if it is here, and I got anew one in mind that I was working out as I lay me down to sleep last night... 'Loose Goosie' an excerpt: 'singing why oh why oh why oh why, why? why do you yank my chain?'
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    hows about a 'song parody' section?? it is a little different from the poet's corner, I think; and lots of fun. I've done a few song parodies, and Ami just did a grate one. it would be cool to see them all in one place, and then, hopefully encourage others to let their inspiration flow. just an idear. peace.
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    Uncle Johns Band
    Any chance we can start a topic about uncle johns band a band here in tampa, fl. Just want to see if there are any people in here from Tampa who go to Skippers Smoke House for the Thursday night shows.
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    come on......
    thats the oldest way tribes communicate together.at night with a great fire burnin,they sit around in a circle and the elders pass their experience to the young warriors,who then tell their own stories because they are young and strong and its on their shoulders to defend the tribe.every indigenous people do it like this.american indians,beduins.nomads in mongolia etc....thats the way the torch gets passed from one gen.to the other...yeah and the aboriginees sit around in a circle too..tellin stories about the dreamtime:-)(-:
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    Okay
    you guys talked me into it... http://www.dead.net/forum/storytelling-tribe-around-fire
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    Very true Frankly! Thanks
    Very true Frankly! Thanks for that. A dream we dreamed one afternoon long ago... ________________________ www.autoquoteresearch.com
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    warlock..
    ...see what i meant!i am sure that even if there are lifetimes between us..we all are DEADHEADS and we ride in the same bus on a long,strange trip from which nobody can tell where it will lead us.....end of an era?we have really just begun and im sure there are tons of stories to be shared on this topic! U could call it the "tribe around the fire" !!!.the futures here an we are it..........Peace To you all out there :-)(-:
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    I'm one of those 3rd generations. I was born in 1980, first listened to the GD in 92, got my 1st 2 CD's in 1993 which I think were a pretty popular buy among CD's for Dead fans. In the Dark and Skeletons From the Closet. I already had a musical love from listening to the GD in the short amount of time listening to them when Jerry died. I remember walking down the stairs half way to my mom doing her hair saying Jerry died this morning. She likes country music and only told me because she knew I loved the GD. I said no way, and walked back up to my room and cried. The breaker is my mom said you can see the Grateful Dead when you turn 15. I was happy. I had a very close cousin who had been the type of guy that not only goes show to show, he lived show to show. Well, anyways me and Jerry share birthdays (Aug. 1st) I turned 15 (in '95) and I was ready to find the next ticket. Seen that they were just in Chicago a few weeks ago at the time that July... Their last Venue. Days later after never finding out the next time they were going to come to the Chicago, Jerry ended up passing away on August 9th 1995 (we all know, but...) I just turned 15! Anyways at least I've seen the Dead, and to me the closest thing other than them... Dark Star Orchestra. I can count over 200 CD's in my GD collection, but that was all before 2002. I have about 2000 hours of live GD from just the computer and internet. I love the dead, and have come across many dead heads with the same knowledge that I do! I admit tho, I lack the experience! And the experience outweighs the songs, time a lifetime. I could get a copy of every show they ever played, and never get to feel, see, smell, hear, or even fathom what it was actually like to be there. That's why I love you! I love you all, good night... A dream we dreamed one afternoon long ago... ________________________ www.autoquoteresearch.com
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    winds of change
    what about a topic which deals with the fact that there is an evident change of DH generations underway.there are rhe seniors who are coming into their 60s(or more) now,than the middle of the road who came on the bus late 70s and the new ones who never had the luck to see the GD because when jerry passed away they were like 5-10yrs. old.wow,its in fact allready the 3rd gen. of DH and the 1st to grow up only on canned music.i am sure that the folks of all these 3 groups might have alot of interesting stuff to tell one another..:-)(-:peace to all
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Hi, I would love to see a forum where i can ask about memorabilia. I have some collectables and i'd like to get people's opinions on what they're worth. (i want to sell them on ebay or something and who better to ask then you all. for example: i've got a 2'x4' poster of a dead album cover signed by mouse and kelley, would love to post pics and get feedback. thanks
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no reason we can't have a topic like that, though we kinda have something like it already in Your Own Storefront. Posting pics in the forum is kinda not happening though. Links to pics hosted elsewhere, yeah. How about taking a look and seeing if Storefront does the job for you, and if not, come back and report.
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..some 15 yrs. ago RELIX made a special about brothers and sisters in jail.i dont want to judge wheter these people are guilty or not(..but i strongly belief that many of them have fallen prey to smart agents who took the way of making traps for DHs,which than served as a latter for their career!)Many of these souls must still be rotting in the hell of the US justice system.would it not be possible to make a topic where the adresses of these poor souls are published(..with their complete agreement,naturally..) so that these fellows might get some letters,phonecalls,well just everything which would build up their moral while they going through this horror?
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I agree that's a good idea. I'm a little concerned about posting people's names and addresses in public spaces on the Internet, though. Let's think this through a bit more and see what we can figure out.
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Well it's about time Congressman asks for investigation of Ticketmaster, TicketsNow over Springsteen By George Gombossy on February 3, 2009 2:44 PM | Permalink | Comments (0) PASCRELL SEEKS INVESTIGATION INTO TICKETMASTER BUSINESS PRACTICE WITH SUBSIDIARY, TICKETNOW Press release: WASHINGTON-- U.S. Rep. Bill Pascrell, Jr. (D-NJ-08) today requested that the Federal Trade Commission (FTC) and the Department of Justice (DOJ) Antitrust Division investigate Ticketmaster's relationship with its subsidiary company, TicketsNow, following the company's handling of ticket sales for the Bruce Springsteen tour that became available on Monday February 2. Dear Chairman Kovacic: I am writing today to direct your attention to a potential conflict of interest regarding Ticketmaster and its affiliate company, TicketsNow. This issue has been brought to my attention through constituent complaints and press reports regarding the online sale of Bruce Springsteen concerts tickets at the IZOD Center in New Jersey and other locations all across the country. As you know, Ticketmaster is a large ticket sales and distribution company that often serves as a venue's sole ticketing agent. A large percentage of their sales are made online through Ticketmaster.com. In a recent effort expand its business Ticketmaster acquired TicketsNow, a website which specializes in the secondary, resale market for tickets. When tickets for Bruce Springsteen's new tour went on sale exclusively through Ticketmaster at 9:00 a.m. on Monday, February 2, 2009, scores of fans in New Jersey were met with technical difficulty on Ticketmaster.com that impaired them from making a purchase. Thousands of others who were fortunate enough to get beyond the technical problems were informed that the shows were sold out. Conspicuously placed on the same screen that informed fans of ticket unavailability was an alternative purchasing option from TicketsNow.com. It offered the same tickets at a value marked up hundreds of dollars beyond their original face value. I am troubled by how quickly tickets priced exponentially higher became available on the secondary market to thousands of rejected fans, many who also endured unfortunate technical problems on Ticketmaster.com. I am concerned that the business affiliation between Ticketmaster and TicketsNow may represent a conflict of interest that is detrimental to the average fan. There is a significant potential for abuse when one company is able to monopolize the primary market for a product and also directly manipulate, and profit from, the secondary market. Additionally, the speed with which tickets were made available on Ticketmaster's official resale affiliate site raises questions about whether TicketsNow brokers were given preferential treatment instead of competing on a level playing field with average consumers to purchase the tickets. With so many families struggling in this economy, I am outraged by how expensive tickets to ball games, concerts and other shows have become. I understand the economic principles that have driven up the cost of entertainment, but will not tolerate unjust business practices that put regular Americans at a disadvantage. I respectfully request that your office investigate the relationship between Ticketmaster and TicketsNow to ensure that the procedure for purchasing tickets remains fair to the average consumer. If you require any additional information or have any questions, please contact Arthur Mandel on my staff at (202) 225-5751. I look forward to the favor of your reply. Sincerely, Bill Pascrell, Jr. Member of Congress
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to the Channel 666 topic, where it should be right at home!
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I'd like to see a forum called, "So, how'd you like the show last night?"
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I know that the Dead shows of 99 and 2003 are not Grateful Dead shows. But I would enjoy having the setlists listed in the show archives. Many of the younger fans might not of been around to see the Grateful dead with Jerry but are dedicated heads who go to many Phil, bobby and Dead shows and might want to comment and share their experiences at those shows. It would be great if you could included those Dead year in the archives and maybe even Ratdog and Phil? I mean it already sucks that we missed the Jerry years, now we can't even participate in the forums, come-on.... Soper
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I'll pass this along to the higher ups and we'll see what happens!
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Hi Marye: How about a section about all the behind the scenes people that make this site and all of the GD stuff work so we get to enjoy it.? I know this sounds strange but I really would like to come to San Fran sometime and meet everyone. And I am not a nut ! Just a fairly normal father of four insurance agent-(my wife is a psychologist and she hasn't put me away) that loves the Grateful Dead and all of its fans. Also I have asked this before how about the company put out Scott McDougals artwork out as posters? And the road goes on forever.... BobbaLee
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It would be cool to get to know the people that are behind all this Weirdness. Kind of like a where's waldo thing, but with the behind the scenes woman and men posting. ____________________________________________________ Will you come with me? Once in awhile you can get shown the light in the strangest of places if you look at it right!
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What would be cool would be if 1. There is a "How the Dead.net " works Thread. Like who puts the stuff up on the threads and store etc. 2. Maybe have the persons picture a little bio and something like "Hi I am Mary and when an order for T shirts comes in this is how we take care of it explanation." 3. How active are the Core 4 in the business? And damn it if the Beatles can have all these conventions ( and yes i love them dearly) why not a GD convention and have people talk about them and stuff. Can any one really say that the Beatles and ( i know i am stepping on the third rail here) really were any better than the GD? Come on they played for 30 years!. They didn't run and hide in the studio and act like a bunch of paranoids... don't get me started................ And the road goes on forever.... BobbaLee
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We need a thread put up for those who want to car pool to shows or car pool on tour. The need is great and arranging rides before or after shows or from show to show is needfyl to save on gas
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There is such a thread already. It's called The Ride Board, and it's right here. Conversation is always more interesting than recitation, so speak your mind and not someone else's.
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But how about a little timeline thread?_____________________________________________ Will you come with me? Once in awhile you can get shown the light in the strangest of places if you look at it right!
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Wouldn't it be the shizzle? We could run the planet? Bright blue ball spinning, spinning free....and a GREAT palace to be!_____________________________________________ Will you come with me? Once in awhile you can get shown the light in the strangest of places if you look at it right!
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If anybody seriously wants to do a DeadCon-organizing conventions and trade shows for game companies is one of the things I do nowadays to earn my living, so I know how to do this. Just have no cash-so we'd have to find a sponsor(s).********************************** It's the end of the world as we know it, and I feel fine
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Your rite!! Deadheads should run the world!! But I think what we all should really be worried about is the fact that Iran and Korea have the capibility to make and launch nukes. This my friends worrys the hell at of me. We need to spread some of the DEAD love over seas!!!Phatmoye
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that's a cool line of work! So, you guys want a topic on If Deadheads Ruled the World?
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garner some interesting responses marye......go for it!!.........lessee........if deadheads ruled the world it would be alot easier for me to find a JOB!!!
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I thought that Deadheads do rule the world....don't be bursting my bubble!
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Johnman, the pay aint great, but the benefits are out of this world! Seek the Truth, Appreciate Beauty in all Things, Try to do Better
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Have a comment bout johnman's job in the dead-ruled world, but will save it for the thread.********************************** It's the end of the world as we know it, and I feel fine
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a Jackie section, please. peace.
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a thread for discussing the continuing musical evolution of the Dead, that we've all been hearing on this tour? The new styles, brand new tunes, etc.********************************** It's the end of the world as we know it, and I feel fine
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thank you, mary. ( -;
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roommate, apts., and real estate listings for folks = ]
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we thought about that but we're not set up so well for it. Until such time as that changes, please feel free to avail yourself of the In Search Of (people, info, stuff) topics for this purpose.
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Love the forums here but I have a few suggestions. I hang my hat at several difft forums from Fantasy Football to Gambling sites to Grateful Dead etc, etc.... WHy is it that we can't start our own new threads??? I've never seen anything like that at any forum, anywhere. I like the idea of the "Best of" thread but it is 200 posts long and IMO would be best served if you have say a best of "Loser" thread, best "Terrapin" etc, etc... I am a long time Head but I can tell you I don't know shows and dates off the top of my head like some of these cats do. I read through 100 posts in that thread looking for the best Terrapin and haven't come across much yet. Maybe individual threads for each song, or maybe have a thread devoted to what we would like to see as a "Best of" thread... I know Loser and Terrapin would be my first two. That's my .02 on that topic. How bout a Best of 70's shows, Best of 80's etc, etc??? Best of Brent shows??? Maybe an all time Best Show thread....members would post their favorite show which in turn staff would narrow down and maybe a poll of some sort to get the All Time Top 10 shows....see, I'd start these threads but unfortunately I am "not allowed to post new content in forum"...that's mind boggling to me that I can't create a thread on a forum...isn't that what forums are all about? One other thing in regards to the forums...I notice you don't have a "quote" option, where we can't quote another members post and answer it directly. There are two members looking for the best Days Between in that thread, we should be able to quote it and answer it directly rather than just make a post. Let me know if you need any additional help. Thanks, Northbound Train
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as on Dead Net Central, is that only moderators can start topics. This is fundamentally a chaos-management decision we made two years ago, and having seen some of the more free-for-all sites have big problems with everything from sheer overwhelming size to invasions of bad actors, we have not, to put it mildly, had cause to regret that decision. As for the variations on the theme of best-of, I'm all for it if they've got enough popular support. Any interest, folks?
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gathering of the vibes topic in the festivals forum....it's one of the most family friendly festivals around.......at one point they were even pet friendly thanks mary for all your hard work peace and hugs to all
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Only had a chance to catch both shows at the Spectrum. It was the closest location because I live in Ohio. In recent years, the band seems to circle around us Ohioans. C town baby. The only event to look forward to is Nelsons Ledges. Kottonmouthjeff
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GOTV comes up in the What's Your Favorite Summer Festival topic; if it gets really overwhelmed there I'll move it. Ditto Nelsons Ledges. I've heard great things about both of them.
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Marye: How about a forum on this. Once again the debate is raging about whole shows vs compilations. In the latest Rhino era (since this revamped site was launched). I make the score so far this Total 9 Whole shows: RT2.2 (2/14/68); 3 From the Vault (2/19/71); Winterland Box Set (11/9/73/11/10/73;11/11/73); Cow Palace (12/31/76); To Terrapin (5/28/77); Road Trips Whole Show Download (11/5/79); Road Trips Whole Show Download (11/6/79) Total 7 Compilations: RT1.1 (Fall’79); RT1.2 (Oct 77); RT1.3 (Summer 71); RT1.4 (Oct 78); RT2.1 (Sept 90); RT2.3 (June 74); Rockin’ the Cradle (Sept 78) So its a more or less even balance now, with whole shows slightly favoured (mainly because of the 73 set) So how about a referendum on future policy. Please post your preference from the following list A. Whole shows only B. Mostly whole shows with a few compilations C. About even balance of compilations and whole shows D. Mostly compilations with a few whole shows E. Compilations only If we post our choices A,B,C,D or E in the subject box,then it will be easy to monitor the results. Then we can rant as much as we like in the comment box.

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... is NOT in the vault. As I remember it, the guy who did most of the taping was Kidd Candelario, a long -time roadie with the band. If he had other, more important issues, for example helping Billy with a loose drum mount, or something else to do, then the taping took a back seat. Not sure when the band made taping the WHOLE show a priority, but I think it was sometime in the late 80's or the early 90's. That's the way it's been in town...
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you might try the 45 Years So Far topic for the moment.
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I'm perfectly willing to start a topic (especially if it would divert the perennial whining on this subject from the new-release topics...) but would, of course, need to state explicitly that while the results might be interesting to many, they are not binding on anyone and I imagine Mr. Norman and crew already have their own ideas on the subject!
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Fair enough Marye.....just like most other democracies then...
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one would be hard pressed, if not actually delusional, to define the Grateful Dead as a democracy, at least if one included the Deadheads. (And, in my view, God help the artist who puts his muse up for popular vote instead of using his own judgment.) They're going to do what they want and that's fine. But more information is not a bad thing either. Free market research. Whatever.
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.....I am not so 'delusional 'as to think of this place as a democracy.....just trying to have some fun, get a picture of what people really think and provide some feedback. Still, if the view is that 'they will do what they want and that's fine' then there is not much point really is there. I withdraw my suggestion.
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but I also think there are those among us who are so innocent that they believe this place is a straight shot to the decision-makers, and it just ain't that way. So my concern is with managing expectations and the inevitable sense of exuberant entitlement that seems to come with the territory of expressing one's views online. The undercurrent of being OWED full shows in pristine release that bursts forth every time a Road Trips is announced is downright weird to me. I cannot say whether the views expressed will wind up having any influence at all; all I can do is tell TPTB the topic exists. Which, in a minute or two, it will.
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to whoever reads this, please reply. it seems to me that all the shows i had gone to are celebrations of living. today when i have an anniversary of a date of a show; ka-boom! i love them all that much more. today is 7-20-09 and the first 7-20 since my dear mom helen passed in january. she went with me to deer creek today and i am certain she is getting applause from jerry right now. she is probably hitting him for playing "peggy-o." what would your mama think ... i celebrate all my anniversaries of the dates of the shows that i enjoy even today! peace, shack
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about the loss of your mom, but it sound like she left you a lot to celebrate.
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how about a new topic populated with Favorite tours like spring 77 , the Wall of sound shows etc (Phil said they were his fave shows) that way obsessive fans like me can learn even more details about Everything Dead also can we ask some of the roadies etc to comment maybe to have a thread? I was briefly a back stage gofer at the Sportatorium in Miami helped set up Its a Beautiful Day, John Mayall, Free And the road goes on forever.... BobbaLee
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Hi, I'm working on a running mix for a marathon I'm training for. It would be great to get some help selecting songs. Does this topic already exist? If not, can we create it? Thanks!