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  • marye
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    looks okay here
    but if you run into trouble lemme know and I'll nuke the extra.
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    the Long and the Short of it
    Sorry for the double post I can't figure out how to delete a post
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    My 1st Grateful Dead show was NYE 1971 at Winterland.I spent the next 15 years on the road and mostly in the "alternative" economic system in the Greater SF Bay area and counties to the north (with a brief sojourn in Tucson, Arizona). Most of the middle 70s to early 80s were spent "up North," guerrilla gardening. During all that time The Dead and my particular family of fellow Dead Heads were THE CENTRAL focus of my life. Everything from the music, to romance, to children, to how I earned a living revolved around that scene. Getting high for fun, turned into getting high for profit, and finally, to getting strung out as a hard fall from grace I lost my life-partner and child. That breakup - caused by too many reasons to fathom; but definitely fanned and fed by my drug use and addiction - was an ugly, sad, tragic, period; full of self-pity, guilt, and remorse. And, of course MORE DOPE! Got another family. Got REALLY strung out. By this time I had entered the "mainstream" economy, but was shocked at all the chicanery "straight" folks could get up to. But that's beside the point. Drugs finally stopped working - literally - I could not get enough DOPE into my system in order to get high. I could stay "well," but I COULD NOT get high anymore. Had a moment of clarity - got clean, July 21, 1989. I worked a half-ass program of recovery, but by "the grace and mercy of the miracle of recovery," I stayed clean for 17 (seventeen) years! Eventually, because my participation in my own recovery and (just as important) in the recovery of others was less than enthusiastic, my spiritual conditioned began to suffer. Meetings became a bore and a chore; my fellow recovering addicts became an object of my resentmeant. I stopped going to meetings on a regular basis. Of course, before long, I relapsed - to my utter SHOCK & SURPRISE. Pain meds prescribed for a legit reason, but by an UNINFORMED doctor - I chose to keep him in the dark about my status as an addict - were the substance I began to abuse. As prescribed, "1 or 2, every 6-8 hours as needed for pain" became "6 or 8 every 1 or 2 hours as I DESIRE to get LOADED." I stayed "out there" for the next six years. Finally, I came back to "the rooms" at my wife's urging - that's right, this angel has stayed with me through thick, thin, and whatever the cat brought in. I sat in meetings for a few days, blubbering to myself while all those around me tried to get the message of recovery through my thick, muddled head. ACTION was urged by all, get a sponsor, read the literature, WORK THE STEPS! Tomorrow I see my pain doc; cop to being a 12 stepper, and begin to taper off all narcotic pain-meds. Even when prescribed for legit pain by an INFORMED doctor, FOR ME using narcotic pain meds is just too slippery-a-slope. This is NOT a judgement for any other recovering addict who has a legit need for (any kind of) medication - this is just what I have to do IN MY CASE AT THIS POINT IN TIME. Day-after-tomorrow will once again be Day 31 for this addict, as long as I don't do something really DUMB. I also meet with my sponsor on that day, as on every Saturday morning. That is the BIG CHANGE this time around - I finally have a sponsor with whom I meet on a REGULAR basis EVERY WEEK! I am learning that the 3rd step, to make a decision to surrender my will and my life over to THE CARE of a power-greater-than-myself must be followed up by ACTION: 1. GET HONEST 2. WORK THE REST OF THE STEPS Okay, that's more than I meant to share, thanks for listening, that is, if you made it this far. If not, well . . . thanks anyway! Love to all, JiJi
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    If I am in New York in the US of A; can I look outmy window and see India? Great questions.
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    HI...
    ...although I am in recovery, this is sort of an off topic post. I am putting it here because it seems to be the only place the webiste will allow me to post. Can anyone explain to me why the grateful dead community/family seems to be denying the existance of Bruce Hornsby? Was this at his request? Was there a falling out? How many years do you have to play with the band to become a member? I am looking at a picture of the hall of fame induction and he is clearly standing there. I have tapes with him clearly playing. I saw him live. I am not insane. Even the picturte in question (in the Grateful Dead scrapbook) shows him, but deliberately ignores him in the caption. The cardboard cutout of Jerry is clearly identified, but we are supposed to pretend that Bruce is not in the picture. What gives? Tom Constanten is listed as a member of the band and I don't beleive I ever heard a live recording with him in it.....
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    Found you here this morning andwanted to drop you a vibe and love and a note. Being sober will not be hard to be if you remember that's what you want to be. If you think you'd rather be (insert your shoice of words) it will be aweful and you might fail at your endeavor. *Want* to be sober and you will succeed. It won't matter where you are because our wants almost always win in our behaviors. Like minded friends just make it super extra fun. Want all good things for yourself and you'll find your wants; right at your own backdoor. We are creatures of our own pleasures; let being sober be what pleases you most and the sailing will be smoother that expected. As for the addiction part, teach your body well, it needs a new motivation for pleasure. A brisk walk can get you high as can volunteering and many other wonderful, exciting, creative, and magical choices. All the best to you, jaybird13. One of my dearest friends friend just made it to a brand new existence and their life is brand new. Wharf Rats Rock, be proud. "Whiskey got no hold on me." -Steve Earle
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    I just went into recovery from alcoholism last Thursday. I love my new life already but I was concerned about going to shows and festivals this summer without any sober friends. A good friend of mine told me to check into Wharf Rats to help me solve this dilemma. Man, am I glad to know you guys are out there! I will keep an eye on what's going on and will post when I'm out and about to see if any Rats will be going to the same places. I live in Jackson, TN and usually go to Memphis more than anywhere else right now. If there's anybody out there that's in the area please feel free to contact me, I need all the sober buddies I can get. Thanks!
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    Hey family, Been a while since I checked in. A lot going on. My son is almost 14. Going through the growing pains of the teenage blues with him. I'm doing good. Learning how to show up different in my life, one day at a time. I'm not agro, or stressed anymore, just sort of calm and serene. I've got some inner peace that I didn't know was possible. In fact when I saw others happy and at peace I thought that they were faking it. That it wasn't real. But now I sort of just roll with the punches. Lost my grandmother in September. That was sad. But again, I've learned some tools since I've been clean and any adversity I face is just an opportunity to become stronger and add tools to my tool box. Christmas is here, yet again, my favorite time of year. I've made a lot of good friends now and most importantly I've connected with my higher power. And trust me when I say that that power metamorphasizes from moment to moment sometimes. What ever keeps me clean but I've built trust with my higher power and from that has come faith!! I am so super blessed. Actually, I used to run to Haight for the love of the family, never understanding the words of the woman at my first show, "we're your family", I guess now that means that I'm right where I need to be. As much as I love the Haight, I don't have to get outside of myself to find the love anymore. I do miss the Fam though!! One Love!! Peace and Inity forIver!!! I love you family!! 21 months and staying strong!! Zelda
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    Hi, I've been in recovery for 19 days. I am wondering if there will be aWharf Rat presence at the Chicago Allstate Further show this Friday. This will be my first concert that I attend sober. I was hoping to learn more about the following: 1. Where is the Wharf Rat table generally located? I realize there will be yellow balloons, but I was curious if there was a designated area inside the venue. 2. Would I need a floor ticket to access the table? 3. Is there a meeting preceding the event, and, if so, where and when? Thank you in advance for any help/information. - VM wickerparkwharfrat@gmail.com
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    i'm a young kid and i'm really grateful to have a chance at recovery this early in life. i was on furthur tour for a while and uh ya know, whiskey and l was what we lived on like everyone else. i remember always walking by the wharf rats table and never knew what the hell was going on. never had any idea that those people were sober or that i was an addict. never knew why everyone was always clapping and why they weren't drinking. i always thought wharf rats was like some group of old heads and i wasn't welcome. anyways i started getting sober over the summer after catching a case in the summer and i've never been happier. i was at the spac show over the summer but couldn't find the table but i'll be at albany on tuesday and that will be my first wharf rats meeting. i live in schenectady, ny right now and go to aa meetings around the area. if you live in the area, give me a holler. i would love to meet ya and would love to know if there is already wharf rats meetings up here, and if not, i'd like to try to get it going see ya tuesday
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Pauly were you at the Spectrum when they boys did the 1st Unbroken Chain? I was at the Wharf Rat meeting between sets what a great night! Hopefully I will get to Chicago. Amen to Divine intervention, I thank God everyday. I love you but Jesus loves you the best and I bid you goodnight..........
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Hey Mike,I have no idea if I was at the 1st Unbroken Chain in Philly, to be honest with you! I was living in Pa in the early '80's. from about 1980 through 1985. We used to go to the Spectrum all the time back then.(Still using back then)A bit of a blur...I do remember Barney the Dinosaur playing bass at one of those shows! Best of luck finding a ticket to Chicago! Pauly
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hey, any westy campers camping in the area on the coast before the shows want to meet up and sing around the camp fire? let us know-del bear
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I'm trying to get sober, but I'm sacred. Can I still love the GD? Please help.
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Hey CW....First thing I noticed that you joined the site in 2010...whatta ya been doing for the past 4 and a half years if your trying to get sober now?? The first thing I did to get sober: Change People, Places and Things!! You gotta lose all your "using friends" start hanging out with positive, healthy, sober people. Try that for starters and get to a meeting!!
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"a group of friends sharing a common bond, providing support, information and some traction in an otherwise slippery environment." Look for the yellow ballons and meetings are at set break. You don't have to be perfect. Just take it one show at a time (~);-)
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The Wharf Rats are a group of concert-goers who have chosen to live drug and alcohol free. Our primary purpose at the shows is to make ourselves available to anyone who feels we may have something they want. We offer support, strength, fellowship and hope. Look for the yellow balloons, signs and the Wharf Rats information table. We are not affiliated with Alcoholics Anonymous, Narcotics Anonymous nor any other twelve-step group. We are a group of friends sharing a common bond, providing support, information and some traction in an otherwise slippery environment. The Wharf Rats began during the 1980s as a group of Deadheads under the name "The Wharf Rat Group of Alcoholics Anonymous". The Wharf Rats originally came from a small group of Narcotics Anonymous members who went to a Grateful Dead concert in Philadelphia and located each other by their Yellow balloons with the NA symbol drawn on in Magic Marker. However due to operational differences they soon split off from Alcoholics Anonymous, and are not affiliated with them, NA, or any other twelve-step program, though many of members of the Wharf Rats are members of AA, NA or other 12 step programs. The Wharf Rats see themselves as "a group of friends sharing a common bond, providing support, information and some traction in an otherwise slippery environment." The unusual name of this group comes from the Grateful Dead song "Wharf Rat", which contains the self-told story of August West, a down-and-out dockside wino.
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I am a lone drunk. I agree with you though.
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At both both Chicago and Santa Clara. Look for the yellow ballons or bring one and you will be found. Maybe a meeting on Friday afternoon or night at a Park near the Stadium SC.
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Going to SC 6/27, and a bit nervous that I will be the only one around me not using. I'm younger than most of you folks from what I have gathered, as I only got into the Dead as a high schooler in the early 90's, and have followed mostly by trading music and watching as a bit of an "outsider". Saw Phil a few times. Loved the music and people were kind. But I always felt out of place since it seemed like I was the only one not smoking, dosing or drinking that wine. (Never used. Seen too much life wasted to be attracted to any of it. That, and my relationship with God, the real influence, would be so scrambled up if I was under the other influence.) Would like to find the yellow balloons during set break and say how do you do. Plus, I'll need the reassurance that there are more like me out there. Real name's Eric. I'll see you there!
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Santa Clara: Where can I find the Wharf Rats at the show? The Wharf Rats will have a table near the Participation Row area, on the main concourse close to the Intel Gate A. _____________________________________________________________________ Chicago.. Where can I find the Wharf Rats at the show? The Wharf Rats will have a table near the Participation Row area, in the South Courtyard inside the South Gates, near Gate 0.
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Looking forward to Chicago Fare Thee Well! When are the meetings?
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You will not be alone at all! morning drew meetings at set break. Read above. Look for the yellow balloons or better yet have one on shake down to meet other Rats
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Good morning, I'm looking for information on where to post an invitation. There are probably more than a few people rolling down the road right now looking for a place to pitch a tent, park a bus, an RV or a car while en route to Chicago. We are on a patch of ground in Nor'western Illinois and have some room if folks need a place to stop for a few or overnight. The gate is open; we don't want anything in return (AKA - free). If there are any takers, we will rent a porta-pot. All we ask is that anyone stopping/staying treat the place with respect. Please let me know when you have a chance, Thanks, J and T
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Very nice, and thanks for hopping on the Sunshine Daydreamer bus.... Looking forward to meet up in Chicago....hope you get miracled...
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I noticed the Wharf Rats table getting plenty of visitors in Santa Clara. Hope you have a great group in Chicago!
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HelloI will be alone at the Chi town concert 7/3 in the Pit and I wanted to know where to find the WharfRat group table to meet up for a hello. Any ideas? yellow balloons? Thanks
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I defer to those who will actually be there, but I think the Wharf Rats will have a table next to Participation Row where the various charities are.
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Look back in the thread maybe 2 weeks ago a parking lot location and yes yellow balloons....enjoy the journey .....I have...
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We have come along way from being a bunch of strung out junkies touring for a living to being sober members of society . That care enough about each other to post were we are wear we will be and so on. Have fun everybody again is the day before Christmas for many. Enjoy this long awaited weekend.
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Well said, Sir John....just like the day before Christmas
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Greetings lovely Wharf Rats, I just joined the forum. I am based in the Denver area. Very early in my recovery from alcoholism. Got 2 months sober last summer otherwise it's been a struggle to even get a week. I am getting help now from a therapists and group. Any Wharf Rats in the area that can recommend a meeting or support group? I have tried AA several times, I guess I just haven't found my home group yet. I find the age gap tough for me as I am only 26. Anybody else not like AA at first? I am willing to try again, but if anybody knows of a meeting that is especially awesome let me know! Thanks for this forum and recognizing the need within the music scene. I can only hope as I get furthur along in my recovery I can help others struggling with addiction. We are such a conscious and spiritual group of people I feel the poisons out there are holding many back from reaching full potential. Including myself. Love you all Unbroken Heart
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Many of the people I know did not like AA at first. Stick with it is the 1 program I know of that accepts us no matter how we are there are no clicks it might seem like your to young yet it will stick I believe in you. Your life is going to get so much better beyond your wildest dreams trust the process Good luck and write me any time you want john
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IDK if the other recovery programs have them but I have seen it in 12 step groups like all walks of life. Can be good to listen to some elders. Denver is big and maybe there is a recreational 12 step club to go to. I would research your options rather than try something that is not working for you after you have given it a chance.
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Good morning rockers!!!! As many of you may or may not know, I am a bit of a “1971 Dead fanatic”. I have taken on a slightly ambitious project, documenting all 1971 Dead shows, the end result of which I hope will combine numerous “facts/factoids” about shows with recollections of folks who actually attended Dead shows in 1971. In order to accomplish this, I need the help of the Dead fan community. ALL contributions will be properly and specifically credited. If you attended ANY shows in 1971 and have ANY recollections to share, PLEASE consider participating. Please PM me for details. While of course I’m happy to hear from anybody who attended “classic 71 shows” such as Port Chester, Fillmore East, Harding Theater, Felt Forum, etc., I’m particularly interested in hearing from folks who may have attended lesser known, “out of the way” shows, such as: 1/21/71 Davis 1/22/71 Lane Community College 3/5/71 Oakland 4/14/71 Bucknell 4/18/71 Cortland 6/21/71 Chateau d’Herouville 8/4/71 Terminal Island 10/19/71 Northrop Auditorium 11/11/71 Atlanta 11/17/71 Albuquerque In addition, if ANYBODY out there has “paper ephemera” related to 1971 shows, Please consider participating. I’m looking especially for: Newspaper/print media articles Show posters/handbills Ticket stubs Photographs Thanks in advance to all who participate and contribute! Rock on, Doc Gillespie
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ATTENTION ALL WHARF RATS: Tuesday in Atlanta Mom AKA Caroline The original East Coast Table coordinator and Honorary Wharf Rat Queen will be attending the Show. Mom contributions to the Wharf Rat Group are myriad, too numerous to count really. From 1988 until 1994 she tromped up and dow the East Coast doing the Table and making sure it was done right leaving a rather large wake of pure LOVE everywhere she went. She started the newsletter and kept it going for years getting help wherever she could. Bumperstickers, Stickers that you all wear with the one show at a time, so many things about the wharf Rats that we take for granted all credit can be laid at Caroline's feet. She saved the Wharf Rat Table from banishment during a particular episode of very bad behavior by wharf rats who should have known better and I don't know if anyone else could have pulled it off. She doesn't make an appearance very often so if you are in Atlanta come by and give her some Love.
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Excellent article mona, thanks for sharing....
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Hello Wharf Rats. I have met a few of you out and about at shows. I was hoping to hang out with some Wharf Rats in Atlanta this 29th and 30th before and or during the WSP shows at the Fox. My cell is 828 4236588. Please call me if you are going to the shows clean and sober and would like to hang out. Much LOVE!
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about drinking and driving.As you know, some of us have been known to have brushes with the authorities from time to time, often on the way home after a "social session" with family or friends. Well, two days ago, this happened to me. I was out for an evening with friends and had more than several beers followed by a couple of bottles of rather nice red wine and vodka shots. Although relaxed, I still had the common sense to know I was slightly over the limit.That's when I did something I've never done before - I took a taxi home.Sure enough on the way there was a police roadblock, but since it was a taxi they waved it past and I arrived home safely without incident.This was a real surprise to me, because I had never driven a taxi before. I don't know where I got it, and now that it's in my garage I don't know what to do with it..So, anyway, if you want to borrow it give me a call.
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That story ended differently than I expected. My brain is still trying to in vain to find 'the moral of the story'. That said, taxis are nice. I have had good experiences with them myself.
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Hey ya'll...I've been going to gathering of the vibes for the past several years but they've canceled this year's festival. I have two little ones that I take with me and liked gathering b/c it was trunk camping on site with family/sober camping really close to everything. Anyone know of good festivals with trunk camping onsite we can check out this summer? Tx!!
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At 17 I lost a good friend and nice guy Curt who decided not to drink and drive so took a taxi home from a kegger. The taxi was hit by a drunk driver and Curt was instantly killed. His family had a private funeral so all of us "kidz" had no closure. I felt so deeply that something had to be done to at least try and fill the big whole the world will now have without him. I decided then that I would not drink and drive and share Curt's story so others may think twice about it. Wish I could say I never drove drunk but from this it has only been a couple times. I have shared his story for over 3 decades and many ppl all over know Curt like you do now. I get the added benefit of remembering him and I thank you for that. @--}--------
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Hi family , new to this..Just reaching out , Doin the Dead N Company shows n NC and Boston. Just trying to get connected with some folk, first shows going clean and kinda a bit sketch. I recall from way back n the day about "Warf Rats" anyhow won't ramble..Peace
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Welcome! Were you able to connect with some WR? Tough going clean your first go-round but it gets easier.......
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Well technically not Detroit, but Clarkston...... July 7 2016. Trying to get a lot meeting or at least a quick prayer before the show.... Shout it out if you will be there. Shadow boxing the apocalypse, wandering the land....
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Mick, I will be at NC, possibly CLE and INDY, Camden, Saratoga, VA, NY-2 shows, and Alpine Valley 2shows maybe Detriot, PA IN JULY and Maybe Boston as well.I was looking to possibly share some rides and road trip expenses. Clean 15yrs long time head--many shows clean. Get in touch if you want to--clean is the best way to see and hear and dance and experience the full dead show! Hang with me and you won't believe how high it gets brother! Ps: I'm not a warf rat per se, but have and can hang with them a bit if it helps you-- but if you're with me we will not be using anything but feet, eyes, ears, and perhaps some ginseng just to stay ahead of the curve :) 202-439-5418
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This is an extreme long shot but I am looking for a wharf rat who saved my life when I was 18 in 1994. He was 30 named Scott and had dark brown hair, very handsome. He was a lawyer. He was travelling with Dianna. He pulled me out of a fire (i forgot what fire was) and saved my life when I was on a bad lsd trip. I have always thought about him and would love to reconnect and thank him again. It was at the omni atlanta show. Perhaps does anyone who who he is or how I may contact? I last saw him in DC in 95 and always wished I kept in touch. It would mean the world to me. I want to say he was from Philedelphia but honestly cannot remember. He truly was a representative of God. There have not been many people on Earth I remembered like him and he truly saved my life. Thank you- Sarah Pounders sarahauthorillustrator@gmail.com
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Where are the WRs meeting for these last 2 shows of the D&C tour? Any help would be appreciated. Thanks!
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Walking in you should see their table. It's all yellow and look for ppl with yellow balloons. There is a good open minded WR group on Facebook you can check before info. Wharf Rats Version 2.0 https://www.facebook.com/groups/173680889383178/ Here is the webpage. We may be sober but we are still hippies. Last update was 2013 and some numbers may not work. Still good info. https://www.facebook.com/groups/173680889383178/ More than My wine more than my maker though he's no friend of mine (-;(~)
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HEY NOW GOOD FRIENDS, I NEED A BIG MIRACLE FROM A FELLOW WHARF RAT!! I NEED A RIDE UP(AND BACK) TO THE CAPITOL THEATRE, PORT CHESTER,NY ON SUNDAY, OCTOBER 16,2016. I LIVE IN THE MORRISTOWN, NEW JERSEY AREA. IF YOU COULD HELP ME OUT, I WOULD BE ETERNALLY IN YOUR DEBT.PLEASE FEEL FREE TO CALL OR TEXT ME: 973-462-4930. KEEP FOLLOWING THOSE YELLOW BALLOONS!!MY NAME IS PAUL AND I AM A CLEAN AND SOBER WHARF RAT!PEACE!
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Don't know if I'm a Wharf Rat or not, as I still use cannabis. Spent seven years on Oxy due to a spinal injury. Quit at 240mgs a day ( under medical supervision) sigh. Woke up one morning and told my wife I needed to stop, never took another. 8 years now. Life is good
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Was not a Wharf Rat at my first Dead concert June 1967 in Tompkins Sq Park, NYC but became one May 15, 1975. Not sure if I'm considered a Dead Head since I've only been to around a dozen concerts over the years. Does anyone know if there were/are any recordings of that June 1967 concert?