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    "When we began discussing audio projects to commemorate the 50th anniversary of the Grateful Dead back in 2012, we knew we wanted to do something completely unprecedented. We could think of nothing more exciting or ambitious than a career-spanning overview of the band's live legacy focused on what best tells the story: complete concerts. Our first criterion was the very best live music to represent any given year in the band’s history. We wanted to make sure that there were not only the tent-pole shows that fans have been demanding for decades but also ones that are slightly more under the radar, but equally excellent. For those who listen to the entire box straight through, chronologically, the narrative of the Grateful Dead's live legacy will be seen as second to none in the pantheon of music history." - David Lemieux

    We are more than pleased to announce the Grateful Dead's most ambitious release ever: 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN. Available as both an 80-disc boxed set and a custom lightning-bolt USB drive, the collection includes 30 unreleased live shows, one for each year the band was together from 1966 to 1995, along with one track from their earliest recording sessions in 1965. Packed with over 73 hours of music, both the boxed set and the USB drive will be individually numbered limited editions.

    The 80-disc boxed set is individually numbered and limited to 6,500 copies, a nod to the band’s formation in 1965. Along with the CDs, it also includes a gold-colored 7-inch vinyl single which bookends the band’s career. The A-side is “Caution (Do Not Stop On Tracks)” from the band’s earliest recording session in 1965 with the B-side of the last song the band ever performed together live, “Box Of Rain” recorded during their final encore at Soldier Field in Chicago on July 9, 1995.

    The box also comes with a 288-page book that features an extensive, career-spanning essay written by Nick Meriwether, who oversees the Dead archives at the University of California, Santa Cruz, along with special remembrances of the band submitted by fans. Also included is a scroll that offers a visual representation of how the band’s live repertoire has evolved through the years.

    The USB drive version* will be shaped like a gold lightning bolt with the Grateful Dead 50th anniversary logo engraved on the side. The drive includes all of the music from the collection in both FLAC (96/24) and MP3 formats and is an individually numbered limited edition of 1,000 copies. Digital version of the book also included on USB.

    Shows will NOT be sold individually on CD. This release is sure to sell out quickly so pre-order your copy today and stick around as we will be revealing a mighty fine selection of music, art, and much, much more right here.

    (Looking for a smaller 50th Anniversary commemorative keepsake? September 18th will see the release of a four-CD version of the collection titled 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN: THE DEFINITIVE LIVE STORY 1965-1995. More on that here.)

    ROLLINGSTONE.COM SONG PREMIERE AND EXCLUSIVE DAVID LEMIEUX INTERVIEW
    Head on over to Rollingstone.com for the very first listen of "Morning Dew" 9/18/87 Madison Square Garden, David Fricke's exclusive interview with archivist David Lemieux, and the reveal of 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN's '69 and '84 shows.

    *Helpful hints for using your USB:

    Running the 30 Trips Player / Reader program:
    On Windows – Navigate to the USB drive and double click the PCStart.exe file to run.
    On MacOS – Open the GD 30 Trips drive, and double click the MacStart to run.

    Viewing the digital book:
    You can either view it within the program that comes on the drive, or by opening the PDF directly.

    To view the PDF, open the PDF folder on the drive and the USB_bk_spreads_08-31 file within. Selecting the option within your PDF reading application to view as a “single page” might be preferable to viewing as a continuous document.

    Importing music into iTunes and other library programs:
    When you import the songs from the USB into your library, the information used to identify the track will likely leave them sorted incorrectly. Please use the song list found here to re-number the songs for each show so that they playback in the correct order.
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  • #3921
    lowspark75
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    ...and regarding Ginger Baker. You know full well that any of us would just as quickly blow through $5 million if we got our hands on it and there was $5 million worth of previously unreleased Dead recordings to be purchased.
  • #3922
    One Man
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    Song Version Reviews
    Loved the E72 Dark Star blow-by-blow, 6-tus. Now, who wants to host a web repository (blog form or whatever) for this kind of thing? I'll contribute a review of every song version officially released on CD -- including 30 Trips, eventually. All of the others are done already, they just need a loving home and the chance to interact with other reviews. PM me!
  • #3923
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    Tube amps! Love um. I once owned a Mesa Boogie Mk 3 Simulclass that had the most rich warm melt your soul sound I ever heard. Loved that box. Had to be played LOUD just had to be haha.Sold it along with most of my road gear, but picked up a little Orange solid state amp, and for $239. It's a screaming lil monster. Very nice tone at any volume. The days of huge Marshalls are pretty much over. Such a pain to move them around. Plus these new Little boxes make great sound. One thing I learned that amazed me is Jimmy Page and his fav recording amp. It was a little amp as well! He miked it up perfectly. Distance is Depth! Page learned a lot from the ole 50s engineers. I read Ginger has pretty bad COPD now too. It showed with the chain smoking in the movie. Very sad story blowing through 5 million bucks and being dirt poor cause you can't withhold your compulsiveness. What's the line about a fool and his money?
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    lol, right you are Florida. I felt a little bad for him throughout the movie; but then toward the end, his son said he blew him off, and that Ginger had already blown the millions he received from the Cream reunion shows. Talk about blowing a second chance - that's not just down-on-your-luckedness, that's bonafide Summer's Eve! I do love that late 60s tube amplification stage sound of Cream and others, especially with the Who and the Marshall Stack configuration. It's crazy to think now, how short a span all of those late '60s bands existed on stage. The scene was pretty much changed for good within 10 years.
  • #3925
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    Totally agree KeithFan
    Moonie was the best in my book. Love his approach. Unparalleled in RockGinger considers himself as Jazz. I see that and his choices are spectacular too. But himself as a person? Summer's Eve comes to mind!
  • #3926
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    How about a NYE box set?
    There have been some great New Years shows, and I think a box of a few would be cool. My fave is 12/31/81, but there are so many. https://archive.org/details/gd81-12-31.sbd.bertha-ashley.12784.sbeok.sh…
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    Make sure to rip first
    My advice to ckcoffman (and others) is to first rip the discs in the box to iTunes or your other favorite software. That's a quick way to find out whether any discs are defective. You can then listen at your leisure. I haven't yet listened to any of the streamed concerts. Recently listened to Dave's Picks 15 - wonderful stuff. Since there's a fade between discs from Rhythm Devils to Not Fade Away, I used software (in my case, Amadeus Pro) to edit the two together, so I now have a seamless performance from Estimated Prophet through to Sugar Magnolia.
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    Wow, you guys are making my decision not to stream harder and harder! I decided just before the delay in shipping was announced to go on a GD fast, in order to drool even more heavily than usual when I got Boxilla in my mitts, but the plan got pretty hard to follow-through on when the shipping-later-than-Sept announcement came through. I've of course cheated--listened to the 9/11/73 DStar several times this week--but am generally trying to give some of the rest of the music collection some exercise so that my aural tastebuds are primed & even hungrier than usual for the GOGD. Deep into Cecil Taylor at the moment, and Los Lobos are entertaining me a good bit, too. I have to second that emotion w/r/t the kindness of '90s Dead getting some love. I was too young to experience Pig, TC (seen him since), Donna (seen her since), or Keith with the band, and I just missed catching Brent. I don't usually reach first for 1990s GD (I'm generally a 69/70 and 73/74 kind of listener), but sometimes nothing will do but Vince-era. It's all good, depending on mood and timing, and I hope we all get a few surprises out of this box. Anyway, happy anniversary of every show the GD ever played on 9/27 (here's looking at YOU Stanley Theater!). Out of curiosity: I'm planning to listen to the Box chronologically, but, with a job, a spouse, and 3 kids, I don't get enough uninterrupted headphone-time to expect that this won't take me several months (took me about 6 months to get through the E72 materials). So my crisis is that I am not sure what I'll do when DaP 16 (and 17, and maybe 18) arrives. Do I stop my Boxilla experience to groove on Dave's latest fave, or do I wait and wait until I've finished out the Box experience to listen to the next tasty treat from DL? Anyone else have a plan to accommodate this earth-shattering problem? It'll be a hard choice either way. As Oscar Wilde said, I can resist anything except temptation. I know ... it's all good, and I wish these were the biggest problems we all had everyday! FWIW, my half-year-long excursion through E72 was not hitch-free. I got to the penultimate disc of the box and found it skipped. In spite of the long time since order shipment, Dr. Rhino sent me a replacement within a week. Whatever complaints there are about TPtB on other people's parts, I have to give them some cred & mucho gratitude for coming through when I needed it! And, I don't recall who said it first, but the upcoming Dylan bootleg series release shows you how well treated we 'heads are. $600 for 18 CDs? No thanks, even for this Dylan freak. I'll go for the 6-CD version, probably, in the end, but can't help feeling cheated even there. I have everything the man's released, on vinyl and CD, but when I compare his catalogue to what we're getting from Rhino, I feel disappointed (as a BD fan) and grateful (as a GD fan). Now if only Dylan would step out on stage for some of the Dead & Co shows ....
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    Saw it last year. Was also surprised how screwed up he is, but also how musically schooled he is. I knew he was a great drummer, but to hear him talk about it, there is clearly nothing unplanned when playing live. He scoffs at Moon, which says a lot about his approach to music. I don't think he appreciates Moon's talent and uniqueness. Nobody else in rock n roll is a lead drummer, and it"s almost impossible to replicate Moon, because his drumming was an extension of his explosive disposition. Few drummers' personalities are mirrored in their style to the great extent that Moon's is. It's the element that drove The Who's live sound. Everyone else was a passenger on Mr. Toad's Wild Ride. Listening to I Need A Miracle from the Closing of Winter land. Fantastic. Perfect. The best. And it's good too... On to Playing in the Band. Love this mix, I can hear everyone, and Phil especially sounds good. I get a chuckle when people put down Keith in '78 - he plays as well as ever on pretty much everything I've heard, including this Playing. It is true that his talents are not showcased in the later years, but I maintain that's a product of the music's style, not any personal limitations.
  • #3930
    floridabobaloo
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    Whoa this guy is a charmer eh? Had no idea he is or was this F ed Up.I mean I knew a great deal about him, but this was an eye opener! Oh well everybody can't be a nice guy eh? Happy Sunday.
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"When we began discussing audio projects to commemorate the 50th anniversary of the Grateful Dead back in 2012, we knew we wanted to do something completely unprecedented. We could think of nothing more exciting or ambitious than a career-spanning overview of the band's live legacy focused on what best tells the story: complete concerts. Our first criterion was the very best live music to represent any given year in the band’s history. We wanted to make sure that there were not only the tent-pole shows that fans have been demanding for decades but also ones that are slightly more under the radar, but equally excellent. For those who listen to the entire box straight through, chronologically, the narrative of the Grateful Dead's live legacy will be seen as second to none in the pantheon of music history." - David Lemieux

We are more than pleased to announce the Grateful Dead's most ambitious release ever: 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN. Available as both an 80-disc boxed set and a custom lightning-bolt USB drive, the collection includes 30 unreleased live shows, one for each year the band was together from 1966 to 1995, along with one track from their earliest recording sessions in 1965. Packed with over 73 hours of music, both the boxed set and the USB drive will be individually numbered limited editions.

The 80-disc boxed set is individually numbered and limited to 6,500 copies, a nod to the band’s formation in 1965. Along with the CDs, it also includes a gold-colored 7-inch vinyl single which bookends the band’s career. The A-side is “Caution (Do Not Stop On Tracks)” from the band’s earliest recording session in 1965 with the B-side of the last song the band ever performed together live, “Box Of Rain” recorded during their final encore at Soldier Field in Chicago on July 9, 1995.

The box also comes with a 288-page book that features an extensive, career-spanning essay written by Nick Meriwether, who oversees the Dead archives at the University of California, Santa Cruz, along with special remembrances of the band submitted by fans. Also included is a scroll that offers a visual representation of how the band’s live repertoire has evolved through the years.

The USB drive version* will be shaped like a gold lightning bolt with the Grateful Dead 50th anniversary logo engraved on the side. The drive includes all of the music from the collection in both FLAC (96/24) and MP3 formats and is an individually numbered limited edition of 1,000 copies. Digital version of the book also included on USB.

Shows will NOT be sold individually on CD. This release is sure to sell out quickly so pre-order your copy today and stick around as we will be revealing a mighty fine selection of music, art, and much, much more right here.

(Looking for a smaller 50th Anniversary commemorative keepsake? September 18th will see the release of a four-CD version of the collection titled 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN: THE DEFINITIVE LIVE STORY 1965-1995. More on that here.)

ROLLINGSTONE.COM SONG PREMIERE AND EXCLUSIVE DAVID LEMIEUX INTERVIEW
Head on over to Rollingstone.com for the very first listen of "Morning Dew" 9/18/87 Madison Square Garden, David Fricke's exclusive interview with archivist David Lemieux, and the reveal of 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN's '69 and '84 shows.

*Helpful hints for using your USB:

Running the 30 Trips Player / Reader program:
On Windows – Navigate to the USB drive and double click the PCStart.exe file to run.
On MacOS – Open the GD 30 Trips drive, and double click the MacStart to run.

Viewing the digital book:
You can either view it within the program that comes on the drive, or by opening the PDF directly.

To view the PDF, open the PDF folder on the drive and the USB_bk_spreads_08-31 file within. Selecting the option within your PDF reading application to view as a “single page” might be preferable to viewing as a continuous document.

Importing music into iTunes and other library programs:
When you import the songs from the USB into your library, the information used to identify the track will likely leave them sorted incorrectly. Please use the song list found here to re-number the songs for each show so that they playback in the correct order.
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Text

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Submitted by lowspark75 on Sat, 10/10/2015 - 21:59

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Someobody had linked something which I think was google related earlier.. had ALL cover art for Dead. I don't still have it, and you'd probably have to scroll back a ways.
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Submitted by lowspark75 on Sat, 10/10/2015 - 22:03

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Do any of you have the "sound hound" app? It listens to songs and tells you what you're hearing. It's super awesome and handy.... Except..... I am playing 5/13/77 right now, and I managed to throw sound hound off. It thinks I'm listening to Closing of Winterland.. A year and a half later. Interesting. Could be a fun Deadhead game... can you stump soundhound with live dead? Especially with these rare early shows we get now.
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Submitted by wjonjd on Sat, 10/10/2015 - 22:07

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I used Gadwin Printscreen (for Windows), a screencapture utility, with which you can open the PDF and enlarge until the image is nice and large on your screen and use the utility to crop out just the part of the screen you want and create a jpg out of it. So I have excellent jpg's for each show. If I knew a good place to upload them where everyone could get to them, I would do that, or I can send them to someone who does. Anyone?
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Submitted by BertDert on Sat, 10/10/2015 - 23:14

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I think I'm in the minority here, but I keep all of my live GD in one gigantic cd case logic book and store the actual boxes. It just works best for me. Anyways, it often occurs to me that I could easily lose my entire collection, therefore I feel it's time to rip these discs and store the music digitally as a backup and as a way to listen when I don't have a cd player handy. So here is my question. How do you do it? I mean I know how to burn a cd, but how do you all find it best to handle ripping and storing a large collection. Do you convert to wav files or flac or what? Do you use external hard drives? What's the best way to access these files for listening. An iPod, Google drive, drop box? Please, everyone chime in. I'd love to make a well informed decision before I start this process. And thanks in advance.
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Submitted by toddl on Sat, 10/10/2015 - 23:37

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Not saying this is the best way (I'm sure others will have better ideas) but it works for me. I make Apple Lossless copies in ITUNES and then store them in a dropbox account. I do have to pay $100 per year for 1TB of storage. Amazon had a cheaper deal but I didn't think it worked as well. I like the idea of having an external copy of all my expensive sets. I've had hard drives die on me and would not rely on one as my only copy, That seems like an easy way for me and I can download the files onto any computer quickly just by signing into my account. I do wish you could play the files directly from dropbox's cloud but that doesn't seem possible. And you can easily just rotate the ones you want stored at any time on your Apple products.
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Submitted by Dennis on Sat, 10/10/2015 - 23:40

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If you want a "store bought cd quality" you can rip to a wav file on a hard drive, you'd be able to store about 7500 cd's on a 5 TB hard drive, you should also get a 2nd drive for a backup.Two hard drives will cost about 300. You could copy the store bought, onto a another cd, store the original and use the copy for everyday use. The cd's at a nickel a piece would be about 375. I'm a mp3 user, so I rip all my stuff to a hard drive and store the original cd. Everyone seems to have different opinions about format,,, whatever works for you. The only proof of a loving GOD, is the invention of the mp3 :-) For a "ripper" program, I like and have used for years cd-ex. I know it, I trust it. My shit sounds a-ok, in the car, on my motorcycle, in the garage working on cars, kitchen doing dishes, you know leading a life. Would it sound as good, sitting in a quite room, with a great stereo, with great recording and input source, no of course not. How do you live your life? Rip and plan accordingly. AND WHERE'S MY BOX!!! TAKING THAT UPS TRUCK FOREVER TO GET HERE! Enjoy Dennis
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Submitted by Galvinized on Sun, 10/11/2015 - 12:51

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Still Waiting
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Submitted by drsox on Sun, 10/11/2015 - 01:24

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I have 3 sorts of digital music files : 1. I rip the CDs to Apple Lossless (ALAC) and put them on a 2 drive RAID NAS for my Sonos to play. 2. I have a second NAS that I mirror to once a week. 3. I have a copy of the mirror NAS files on a 1TB USB that is in the bank. As I don't add much to my files I'm more worried about loss and failure than about keeping a daily record of changes. With this I'm protected against several sorts of failures : Single drive failure, Computer failure, Software disaster, Immediate user error as well as Fire, Theft etc. The only big problem is an undetected error that gets copied all the way through. If you have a RAID NAS make sure you have a backup.
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Submitted by Alain on Sun, 10/11/2015 - 01:40

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Dave, I hope your back operation goes as smoothly as possible, on October 19. For my part, I am still awaiting delivery of 30 Trips. I am very anxious and excited. I sent you a PM.
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Submitted by Alain on Sun, 10/11/2015 - 01:42

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Bert, I just ripped with iTunes, Apple Lossless format, which is, I believe, the format that music abyss least (but I'm not a specialist). I keep all my music on my computer. I make regular backups to an external drive that remains with me and another drive that I keep out of my house (to prevent loss of my music in case of theft or fire, for example).
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Submitted by DaveStrang on Sun, 10/11/2015 - 03:09

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Thanks for your words of encouragement. As I read your post I realized there was some Dead synchronicity at play. If you can bear with me I'll explain. From 1982-2007 I dropped the band as far as being fervent and almost obsessive regarding tour dates and goings-on. I still purchased current releases ('Rockin' The Rhein', 'From The Vault 3') once in awhile. In 2007 a non-Deadhead friend asked me, since he regarded me as a Deadhead, what a good studio album would be to purchase. He emphasized 'studio' several times (obviously not a "cosmic-noodle" 2nd set man). He was familiar with 'Truckin', 'Sugar Magnolia', and 'UJB' etc. so I recommended 'Blues For Allah' since I think it encapsulates everything that is the "Grateful Dead": concise songwriting: 'The Music Never Stops', 'Crazy Fingers', the musical, almost jazz-like band growth of 'Help-Slip-Franklin's' as well as the experimental title cut. He took my advice and bought the remastered version. He then burned and sent me a copy. When I listened to it on a Saturday night the following happened: Start of CD/1st beer: "damn I forgot how much I like this album". 3rd song/2nd beer: "damn I forgot how much I love this album". 2nd side/4th beer: "damn I forgot how much I love this band!". I'm telling you this because the experience re-awoke my inner 'Dead-beast'. I started purchasing everything I could find. My very 1st purchase was none other than DP19! I still think the 'Dark Star' is underrated. Your 'Sugaree'/tequila reference couldn't be more true and 'Playing In The Band' is a great way to think of my sister's generosity. I'll be listening to it anew the night before as well as the day of the surgery since it's the same date. The BOX will have to be put aside for awhile. Thanks again.
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Submitted by beatingthelilies on Sun, 10/11/2015 - 03:25

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has landed and I dove right into '84! I'm now listening to the 'Brown-eyed Women' from '81 and think this is one of the most inspired versions I have heard in a while. This is exactly why I bought this set. It's fun getting sucker-punched by random songs from random years. With that being said, I just wanted to caution everyone before they lift the lids to the box. I opened mine and took an inch of the edge right off! The weight of the lid is holding it in place (and a little super glue should get it right back in working order) but still... I recommend lifting the lid by holding the front side corners only. Hope everyone else is enjoying the music!
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Submitted by Kayak Guy on Sun, 10/11/2015 - 05:12

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I'm all PC based, and my audio workstation is running win XP, so the software is old freeware.I rip the CDs to the PC HD using EAC on the most secure setting. Because the machine is offline I have to create a text file with all the info I want on the files like track name, album name, venue, show date... it seems tedious, but I feel adds to my knowledge of the album and gives me the chance to make it exactly perfect. After the CDs have been ripped, it's copied as a wav to a 2nd folder and that copy is flacced. The original wav rip is then brought into Wavlab for trimming of silence at the beginning and end of tracks and and jams are reassembled for better shuffling. These wavs are saved to an external "jukebox" HD for play through windows media player on a different PC. The CDs after ripping go into storage in the original packing materials. The flac files are copied to an external HD that has only flac files ripped from my CDs, that's 2 externals so far, but I also have a 2nd flac back up HD and Jukebox HD, so by the time I'm done there are 4 copies of each CD. I have a Sansa player, which plays flac files for my portable listening pleasure. Because I'm paranoid, I also have friends around the country that offer me "offsite" backup by storing filled HDs I send them through the mail or give them when I visit. They, being the buddies they are, check the HDs often to make sure the files all still play and the backups are valid. I pay nothing per month for storage beyond the cost of the original HD. They don't seem to mind checking the files for validity, it all works out well. Yes, I have a lot of HDs and most of them are backups, but it isn't really a digital collection if it's all on a single HD or device and it's all connected to a single machine, it's an accident waiting to happen.
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Submitted by One Man on Sun, 10/11/2015 - 05:16

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I just wanted to chime in and say - don't be intimidated by digitization of your collection. It can be as complex as just described (and therefore more reliable and flexible in terms of edits to the jams) OR it can be extremely simple. I just rip all CDs to ALAC using iTunes. The files go to a 1TB external hard drive. This drive is mirrored onto a similar drive that I keep in a drawer at work. I think off-site backup is a must. Beyond that, all I do is edit the metadata BEFORE ripping (because iTunes will sort by album name, and you want consistency there so you can find everything.) Grateful Dead (and related) stuff gets its own hard drive, since there is so much of it. There's a nice stealie on the primary drive, and I put the 30 Trips sticker (Where did I get that? I don't even have the box yet.) on the backup drive. Ripping your CDs is a must. The discs themselves are prone to damage. Some players will scratch them even.
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Submitted by Craysee1 on Sun, 10/11/2015 - 06:21

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Arrived in NC on Friday... I was away on an Anniversary Trip with my wife(who is truly a MIRACLE to me) and came home to this gem.(not a MIRACLE) We were in St. Maarten for the week and as the week went on and as wifi permitted, I'd check in here to read about Boxzilla landing on doorsteps. I haven't posted much along the way but figured I would now that I've had a night to tackle this a bit. I just wanted to chime in on the sorting/labeling convention conversation. iTunes is my hub, and I too, am rather pit-nicky about how it flows. My collection sees various approaches but for boxed sets, I typically lead with the name of the boxed set, then date, venue, disc# Name of Box - 00/00/0000 - Venue,City,ST. - (Disc #) For this beast, I stayed with that with the exception of adding a prefix... '66 - 30 Trips Around The Sun: July 3, 1966 - Fillmore Auditorium, San Francisco, CA (Disc 1) This allows it to stay grouped together and stay in the right order. In fact, I may find another prefix methodology for the other boxes...hmmm? I clipped the disc art from the pdf download of the book > Export to jpeg. My question for anyone who cares to answer... for the shows that were placed out of order for disc space reasons... will you change the alignment of the songs in itunes? I wish you all great listening. I can only imagine what I'm about to get into.
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Submitted by wilfredtjones on Sun, 10/11/2015 - 06:52

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Most times I listen to digital copies I made myself (lossless WAV) using windows media player and I store the discs for occasional reference. Most times I don't need to, but when I need them I'm glad they're there. For example yesterday, I was listening to my collection on shuffle (which I often do when doing yardwork) using wireless headphones and I heard the song skip. So I made a literal note of it, using pencil to note the song and disc (I had to go inside to check the player). Yesterday was the second time in going on about 2 years I can recall having had any skipping. Ironically, both times it was on the 'Anymore' part of Bertha. Well, this morning I referenced the discs, listened to each track through from the original discs and alas, thankfully there were no skips. So, I re-ripped each of those tracks to replace the skipping files in my digital collection. I have triple redundancy, but not off-site which I will do now and that is a superb suggestion One Man. Annoying problems I have to work on figuring out, is how to change the artwork. Which I think I am on the verge of figuring out, in the past I have had problems getting this to work. The first time I tried, it simply wouldn't work and the second time, the player would not execute the action while the files were in use. I was able to successfully change the art at that time, but sporadically, it would not work in every case but I know it is possible because I did it. Finally, the last problem I'm having is I notice the cd online database is not recognizing disc one of Winterland 1977- The Complete Recordings. I am presently going to check the other discs, but I am afraid I am going to have to input the data manually which is frustrating and time-consuming. But, it is a price I will gladly pay for being a dead freak and being able to enjoy all of my recordings while mowing the lawn or anytime I want in great quality without having to take the discs out of the jumbo cd binder in which they are safely stored. Update-9 out of the 10 Winterland '77 discs have 'mostly correct' track info. metadata, but the disc titles, composer information, and album art are either incorrect or missing. Disc 1 has nothing. It looks like the task will take some time, but not as much as it potentially could to have everything 'just exactly perfect'. It's probably no wonder why this one has not yet been ripped to backup in my case. Hopefully, I'll have that fixed by today. Love that 6-8-77 Sugaree!
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Submitted by Alain on Sun, 10/11/2015 - 06:46

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You ask : «My question for anyone who cares to answer... for the shows that were placed out of order for disc space reasons... will you change the alignment of the songs in itunes?» For my part, I put into iTunes the songs in the order of the concert, always. Because what is important to me is not really CDs but mostly the show. Discs boxes are beautiful objects, I love them, but, for me, above all music comes from the show.
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Submitted by One Man on Sun, 10/11/2015 - 07:44

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If it was the Dap 15 version of Bertha, it wasn't skipping. There is an endless blizzard of anymores at the end of that one. It's absurd, but I love it anyway.
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Submitted by DJMac520 on Sun, 10/11/2015 - 07:52

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Saw a thread with issues earlier. Just noticed that my "TC Keith" plate is upside down. Nice work Rhino.
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Submitted by claney on Sun, 10/11/2015 - 07:56

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One Man, that's funny - I was thinking the same thing. I was listening to that just yesterday in my car, with my six-year old. When it got to the endless anymore section, there was a skip alright ... it was ME hitting the skip button. I HATE it when they did that (some Sugar Mags come to mind too, and some Deals). I'm sure it was fun live and all, so I'm not complaining, but I always skip the repetitive "excitiing" scream fests, or Jerry fanning fests. Most will of course find this to be insane. It's just how feel, baby :) By the way, am I actually the only one who just puts the CD's on a shelf and listens to them? (No backups, no ripping). I'm a freak!
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Submitted by Alain on Sun, 10/11/2015 - 08:04

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I scan and I backup. But these are the CDs that I listen.
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Submitted by mbarilla on Sun, 10/11/2015 - 08:10

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1st live performance since 1979.. And Bring on the release Hartford - 2nd Set of 10.15.83 ,, very cool sequence *I get the feeling,, Dave's Picks will have.. 5.4.77 included in next years Subscription ** "October 1968" Dark Star -> St. Stephen -> The Eleven -> Death Don't Have No Mercy Go get some people !!
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Submitted by JimInMD on Sun, 10/11/2015 - 08:10

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I still listen to the actual CD's in my office.. but they don't make it to the car anymore, anymore anymoroohohore. Anymore!
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Submitted by King Harvest on Sun, 10/11/2015 - 08:30

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Anyone else get a stub for a show that never happened? I received the aforementioned Park City, Utah stub and a 5/23/93 pass. Up to the 68 show right now and I love the narrative thus created with the 66, 67, 68 performances in the box. The 68 show is smoking! Double Pig opening.
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Submitted by mbarilla on Sun, 10/11/2015 - 08:40

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I don't have any back-ups and nothing really stored on PC.. Should I be worried ?? I have had to repurchase a few things.. I used to have my car filled with CDs and tapes, ready to cue a plethora of jams, but not anymore.. Only take a couple discs now and Sirius is on most of time.. Right now, I have 1st set of 8.6.74 primed up and ready to go when Sirius does not have some live morsels to wet appetite.. To start the 1st Set.. And this is as far as I got, (Some primo stuff not included in Dicks Picks 31!!) Bertha Mexicali Blues Don't Ease Me In (very nice) Beat It on Down the Line (very nice) Sugaree... Had to pause for 9.27.76 Lol
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Submitted by st.stevo on Sun, 10/11/2015 - 08:53

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Hey all. Anyone perhaps tell me where they found their ticket and backstage pass in their set? I am unable to find mine....thanks
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Submitted by King Harvest on Sun, 10/11/2015 - 09:01

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Hmmmm, not yet. :) Seems like it may be a rare one right now! Would like to see what others pop up as the boxes come in. @st.stevo inside the books front cover is where I located mine.
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Submitted by mbarilla on Sun, 10/11/2015 - 09:17

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I am also curious to know what others pop up.. Some cool looking passes Whats up with the Marvel characters on passes from 95' ? -- just scored an Original Handball from the Warfield 1980 shows !!
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Submitted by TheDude77 on Sun, 10/11/2015 - 09:38

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I opened my box and the the piece of wood that surrounds the CDs, and is attached to the bottom part of the hinges was glued to the lid. The hinges ripped right off. My box is now in two pieces. Costumer service has been notified. Not sure if that will help. I'll probably have to contact Dr. Rhino next week. Sucks...but the music sounds good.
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Submitted by TheDude77 on Sun, 10/11/2015 - 10:46

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Back those CDs up! I have a few older ones that either show signs of CD rot or are really scratched up. I have 9 internal Western Digital Caviar Black hard drives, and 2 external. Most are 4 TB. My whole music collection is backed-up in FLAC or SHN format..along with a lot music videos and photos. You can never be totally safe, but I feel better knowing my CDs are backed-up on 2 separate drives..that have 5 year warranties. edit: 8 internal hard drives, and 1 250 GB solid state drive.
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Submitted by jenlev on Sun, 10/11/2015 - 15:45

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Hi there, been so long since I posted that a new profile was needed...I've no idea where my old password went. Anyway, I've been hoping to see metadata showing up. I will admit to having no clue how something like Gracenotes works, and being somewhat baffled as to why Rhino didn't upload the data previously. Maybe I'm just clueless about how it all works, but I've never had a GD disc arrive as something completely unnamed in every way. I'm still missing the following and wonder if it's just my technology curse. . .:) Oxford 7-3-88 disc 3 Augusta 10-12-84 (all) MSG 9-18-87 (all) Worcester 10-21-83 (all) A lot of the other shows are showing up with no data, but I'd be happy to get the above as I was at the shows in question. Ah. . .technology. PS. I have to laugh at myself...I couldn't stand not having the Oxford and Augusta on my iPhone so did in manually after all. I'll wait on the other two so I don't have to tell my doctor that the repetitive motion injury is Grateful Dead in origin. Heh. .......Have been listening to this box set all weekend and despite my wish for metadata I'm pretty much beside myself with glee. All the way around these are great shows. Listening to Augusta right now and am amazed all over again.
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Submitted by DaveStrang on Sun, 10/11/2015 - 11:34

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According to Deadbase 50 the 11/10/67 show consists of: Viola Lee Blues It Hurts Me Too BIODTL Morning Dew Schoolgirl Alligator > Caution > Feedback the 11/11/67 show consists of: Lovelight BIODTL Death Don't Schoolgirl That's It For The Other One New Potato Caboose Alligator > Caution It would appear the 1st set from 11/10 (upto and including 'Schoolgirl) and the2nd set from 11/11 ('That's It…' upto 'Caution') were used for the 11/10/67 release especially since there's no 'Feedback' listed on the CD jacket for 11/10/67. Don't get me wrong, it's a great release but... 2 questions: 1. How much faith should we put in Deadbase 50? and… 2. Did Dave say this would be the case (the 2 dates being combined) in one of his 'Seaside Chats' none of which I saw. Your thoughts, opinions, updates, corrections...
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Submitted by ecb on Sun, 10/11/2015 - 11:19

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For those breaking up their box... I would like to purchase a scroll. Thanks! Send a PM. NFA, Ed
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Submitted by KeithFan2112 on Sun, 10/11/2015 - 11:50

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Chitown, assuming you have a Windows machine - here's what I did for the 30 Trips digital album cover art - Go into the PDF, carefully highlight an individual album cover and take a snapshot (this is a PDF feature). This will store the album cover in memory. Open up MS Paint (comes with Windows) and hit Ctrl v to paste. Then save as JPEG. I had to play around a little bit to figure it out, and the menu may be different from version to version of both PDF and MS Paint, but it worked for me. Good luck. On another note - anyone else have a blue felt CD Bay in their box set? I have several friends locally whose box interior is red, and my other sets red. Wondering how I ended up with blue....
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Submitted by wilfredtjones on Sun, 10/11/2015 - 11:51

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My favorite one is from 4/19/78. Try that claney, you might not skip it. They all crack up when Phil starts to enter 'doo-wop' territory. What a fantastic Bertha that is, actually it's top 5 all time for me. Instrumentally, it is fantastic and despite the anymore section nearly entering doo-wop territory, it is not WAY over the top (only slightly over the top) Re: the Berthas that were skipping for me, They were Winterland Complete 11/9/73 and Dick's Picks 25 disc 1.
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Submitted by TheDude77 on Sun, 10/11/2015 - 12:21

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I'm in the middle of very, very slowly transferring my 30 Trips CDs to my hard drive. I'm on disc 2 of the 1977 show and so far everything has been fine..except for 1 disc from the 1970 concert. EAC showed the following: Suspicious position 0:07:20 Suspicious position 0:07:27 Suspicious position 0:07:34 - 0:07:35 I used EAC on 2 different computers with 2 different burners and got the same results. When looking at the disc it kind of has a wavy look. Hard to explain but I've seen it before. It's like someone spilled something inside the CD. The disc doesn't have the normally perfect circles. Honestly, I couldn't hear any problem but thought someone on here might like to know about this.
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Submitted by lowspark75 on Sun, 10/11/2015 - 12:21

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I thought it was a strange/interesting choice for them to put the box's number on the scroll.. a peripheral item in the box. But, since it turns out the boxes are shoddy and might need replacing in some cases.. I guess it works out for the better. But not having the number on the actual box leaves room for some dishonesty. "This one is #0002.." but it was actually just the scroll and a different box.
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Submitted by ronbow on Sun, 10/11/2015 - 14:01

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Yes, that picasa site is a really great resource for the artwork for ALL Dead releases. And ... you can go here to the "main" page for all the artwork by box set: https://picasaweb.google.com/106465427611350658328 Re tagging, I'm kind of old school, and tag by release. That is, i will use the release / box set name (or an abbreviation) followed by date and venue. This keeps the various sets of the release together. Sunshine Daydream: 08/27/72 Veneta OR DvP V13: 02/24/74 Winterland, San Francisco CA Spring 1990 (TOO): 3/29/90 Nassau Coliseum, Uniondale NY
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Submitted by dantian on Sun, 10/11/2015 - 12:33

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I do something similar. For this box I tagged like this: 30 Trips - 1966-07-03 - Fillmore Auditorium, San Francisco, CA This way it's listed chronologically in my media player.
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Submitted by One Man on Sun, 10/11/2015 - 12:39

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Wilfred T, I will check out your fave Bertha post-haste. Those you mention at the end of your post are skipped by me too, along with other significant chunks of those 2 releases. I am still boxless in Atlanta but have done two things to ease the pain. First, I did finally watch that unveiling video. That dude (Dr. Rhino hissownself?) deserves an Academy Award. Hilarious! Second, I still have access to the streams, so have been jumping around the years a song here, a jam there. And I must say EVERYTHING sounds mighty great to me in terms of performance quality. Has anyone found any stinkers at all? I mean sure, there are always rough moments, but are there any truly crap versions of anything? I'm even more excited to see the UPS driver this week, and envious of those enjoying the full fidelity of the CDs.
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Submitted by DaveStrang on Sun, 10/11/2015 - 12:53

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I've listened to '66, '67 (see my earlier post), '68 and all sound great! Simply put I LOVE THIS BOX so far - I hope yours arrives ASAP - I'd like to know what you and others think.
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Submitted by wilfredtjones on Sun, 10/11/2015 - 13:04

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For some reason, when I checked the physical discs themselves, they were fine and did not skip thankfully. So, all it took was another transfer and I am fine. I am glad they were fine on the main disc. Re: the 4-19-78 Bertha, it has been played here on the taper's section on at least one occasion. Here is the link: http://www.dead.net/sites/default/files/deadtapers/apr142008/Bertha.html Sometimes the links are dead (no pun intended) like this one. Links can be made to work inside the flvplayer, pm if you need/want details. Otherwise, there are multiple versions on the archive. http://relisten.net/grateful-dead/1978/4/19 Listen for Bob's China Cat quote as well as the doo-wop action at the end.
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Submitted by NWScarletFireGuy on Sun, 10/11/2015 - 13:05

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I'm still on stream mode, but I believe it is 1982 that has the loud hiss throughout the show. If the hiss is present on the cd then doubtful I'll listen to again.
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Submitted by Born Cross Eye… on Sun, 10/11/2015 - 13:09

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DaveSomehow, most of DeadBase's information are based on "outside information" that is the trading community, us. Get in contact with Dave Lemieux at vault@dead.net and he will probably say that their, Grateful Dead's vault information is correct. And he will almost always say that, just about every time. If he answers back to you. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Lemieux_(archivist) However, I think this '67 show is amazing! On this date in 1967, I was 11 years old, and The Archivist was 3 years away from being born.
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Submitted by deadyogi51 on Sun, 10/11/2015 - 13:35

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Sounds great so far! Side wooden panel cracked, so not just exactly perfect, but good enough. Ticket October 30, 1991 Oakland Pass June 18, 1993 Soldier Field, Chicago
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