30 Trips Around The Sun Box & Digital USB

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"When we began discussing audio projects to commemorate the 50th anniversary of the Grateful Dead back in 2012, we knew we wanted to do something completely unprecedented. We could think of nothing more exciting or ambitious than a career-spanning overview of the band's live legacy focused on what best tells the story: complete concerts. Our first criterion was the very best live music to represent any given year in the band’s history. We wanted to make sure that there were not only the tent-pole shows that fans have been demanding for decades but also ones that are slightly more under the radar, but equally excellent. For those who listen to the entire box straight through, chronologically, the narrative of the Grateful Dead's live legacy will be seen as second to none in the pantheon of music history." - David Lemieux

We are more than pleased to announce the Grateful Dead's most ambitious release ever: 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN. Available as both an 80-disc boxed set and a custom lightning-bolt USB drive, the collection includes 30 unreleased live shows, one for each year the band was together from 1966 to 1995, along with one track from their earliest recording sessions in 1965. Packed with over 73 hours of music, both the boxed set and the USB drive will be individually numbered limited editions.

The 80-disc boxed set is individually numbered and limited to 6,500 copies, a nod to the band’s formation in 1965. Along with the CDs, it also includes a gold-colored 7-inch vinyl single which bookends the band’s career. The A-side is “Caution (Do Not Stop On Tracks)” from the band’s earliest recording session in 1965 with the B-side of the last song the band ever performed together live, “Box Of Rain” recorded during their final encore at Soldier Field in Chicago on July 9, 1995.

The box also comes with a 288-page book that features an extensive, career-spanning essay written by Nick Meriwether, who oversees the Dead archives at the University of California, Santa Cruz, along with special remembrances of the band submitted by fans. Also included is a scroll that offers a visual representation of how the band’s live repertoire has evolved through the years.

The USB drive version* will be shaped like a gold lightning bolt with the Grateful Dead 50th anniversary logo engraved on the side. The drive includes all of the music from the collection in both FLAC (96/24) and MP3 formats and is an individually numbered limited edition of 1,000 copies. Digital version of the book also included on USB.

Shows will NOT be sold individually on CD. This release is sure to sell out quickly so pre-order your copy today and stick around as we will be revealing a mighty fine selection of music, art, and much, much more right here.

(Looking for a smaller 50th Anniversary commemorative keepsake? September 18th will see the release of a four-CD version of the collection titled 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN: THE DEFINITIVE LIVE STORY 1965-1995. More on that here.)

ROLLINGSTONE.COM SONG PREMIERE AND EXCLUSIVE DAVID LEMIEUX INTERVIEW
Head on over to Rollingstone.com for the very first listen of "Morning Dew" 9/18/87 Madison Square Garden, David Fricke's exclusive interview with archivist David Lemieux, and the reveal of 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN's '69 and '84 shows.

*Helpful hints for using your USB:

Running the 30 Trips Player / Reader program:
On Windows – Navigate to the USB drive and double click the PCStart.exe file to run.
On MacOS – Open the GD 30 Trips drive, and double click the MacStart to run.

Viewing the digital book:
You can either view it within the program that comes on the drive, or by opening the PDF directly.

To view the PDF, open the PDF folder on the drive and the USB_bk_spreads_08-31 file within. Selecting the option within your PDF reading application to view as a “single page” might be preferable to viewing as a continuous document.

Importing music into iTunes and other library programs:
When you import the songs from the USB into your library, the information used to identify the track will likely leave them sorted incorrectly. Please use the song list found here to re-number the songs for each show so that they playback in the correct order.
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July 31, 2015 - 7:01am

#5641

hbob1995

Joined:
June 26, 2007

Shipping costs

As long as you live in the U.S., and place your order before 9/18, Boxzilla has free shipping. The only unfortunates who have to pay are the Heads outside the U.S. Rock on
July 31, 2015 - 6:37am

#5642

mbarilla

Joined:
August 8, 2013

Agree , size and front door

For $50 shipping it should be bigger than Europe 72' Steamer Trunk.. $50 is a lot for shipping!! Spring 90 boxes are a decent size, but I would hope for similar design to Steamer Trunk, in regard to holding the discs. What's up with some updates about this box ? Sirius had some killer 1982 he last few days. Red Rocks and Manor Downs. He's Gone > Truckin from Red Rocks (7.28.82) killer transition at the end of He's Gone and jam out of Truckin is pretty sweet. Call me crazy, but I may like this more than the Scarlet Fire from Manor Downs
July 31, 2015 - 5:10am

#5643

comdata55

Joined:
June 8, 2015

Re: JimInMD

oh it is definitely all about the music in this ginormous box, i just really love the box designs they put out and love seeing all the extras. It's more of a, I know we're not getting this thing for another month and a half coupled with my impatience for it to get here already, lol. on another note, i finally sprung the news of the purchase to the wife over the weekend. she wasn't exactly brimming with joy but she also didn't say cancel the order, so i think that one goes in the win column. As far as the dimensions go, I hope I have to take the front door off the hinges when this thing arrives...or maybe hire a crane to hoist it up so it can be pulled in through the second floor double windows...
July 31, 2015 - 2:48am

#5644

One Man

Joined:
May 17, 2011

Double Blind

Ziffle, try your listening test as a double-blind trial. That is, the person playing the excerpts doesn't know which resolution he is playing, and you don't know which one you are hearing. I'll bet your results are surprising. I did this exact test (using LP clips, as you suggest) at 16/44.1 and 24/96 and was pretty confident I could hear the difference. But - surprise - I was wrong about half the time, which is statistically the same as guessing. Make sure you listen to at least 50 A/B clips. More is better. Use good headphones, studio monitors, whatever you want. I'd be very curious to hear your results.
July 30, 2015 - 9:36pm

#5645

Ziffle

Joined:
July 21, 2015

CD set vs. USB

Dschian makes a good point. If you don't have (or aren't planning to purchase) a top quality playback system, the USB version will probably not provide anything beyond convenience, and might actually sound worse than the CDs. On the other hand, if you do have a fine playback set up (and you know who you are), most assuredly the 96kHz/24 bit USB version will take this set to another level. Try a simple test. Take a nicely mastered LP and record excerpts at different resolutions and word lengths. I have found that every increment up to 96k/24 makes a difference (although 88.2 to 96 at 24 bits is subtle). Some of the soundboards are DAT - 48kHz/16 bits. It is impossible for a 48kHz signal to sound the same downsampled to 44.1 kHz for CD. The original DAT will have more space between the instruments. Whether or not the originally analog recordings sound better is entirely a function of the mastering done. I presume top quality engineering here, in which case it will be much better. The point made about the need for a playback system that will handle a high res signal is well taken. Nonetheless, if I was a young person with a modest stereo, I would buy the USB version for the future. For those happy with a mid-fi system, the CD is likely a better choice.
July 30, 2015 - 9:02pm

#5646

JimInMD

Joined:
June 27, 2011

Re: comdata55

I wish we could see the box as well. Its the music inside that's important though. If memory serves, I think they had some significant box design modifications for E72 between the mock pictures on dead.net and the final box. I don't think we knew what it looked like until it showed up on the porch. So there must have been some changes along the way. Since this box has even more discs, I bet there was (is) a logistical battle between size and elegance. It has to fit through the front door after all, right. I hate to speculate, but it could be they don't have a finished product to show us yet. ..or Lemieux got into another scuffle with a surely seal after the last seaside chat and wants the bruises to heal before filming again. Pick your poison.
July 30, 2015 - 8:15pm

#5647

Dschian

Joined:
July 31, 2013

CD box set versus Hi-Res option

I went for the box option. Here's why. While I've noticed that hi-res sources can sound better than cds- and I have about 200 hi-res discs in my collection, so I am definitely a believer- I believe that often much of the improvement comes from the advantage also provided by well-done re-mixes or re-masterings that are frequently done for hi-res releases. For example, the use of the Plangent Process for the HD Tracks Studio Albums package would help to improve the sound over prior releases, so that could help to confound listening differences between those tracks and earlier cd releases for the same albums that people have noted. Even apart from these kinds of changes to the source, improvements tend to be heard more from recordings that were otherwise particularly well-made to begin with. For example, a strong orchestral recording from 2005 or 2015 can sound remarkable on SACD, but I have a highly-regarded Universal (Japanese) SACD release of Regatta de Blanc and because of the limits of the source material, even with remastering the improvements are modest- certainly not a must-have difference. The musical content is awesome, but not the acoustical portrait. Crucially, nearly all of the 30 Trips shows are two-tracks (which tend to simplify the acoustic presentation a bit), and the earlier years obviously have variable and often more limited recording quality. While the Dead's official live releases typically sound great to my ears, that's compared to bootlegs or mp3 streams online. I haven't heard them, but for these reasons, comparing the HD Tracks multi-track studio releases of the Dead, or even Wake Up to Find Out (a multi-track from 1990) to two-tracks from 1969 or 1974 or even 1982 (hell, that one could be from a cassette!) is probably misleading. Maybe if you have an amazing audio system or amazing ears or are listening VERY closely, the difference will be significant, but otherwise, I think one is primarily getting convenience and hardly any sonic improvement from the hi-res set, while losing the book and other physical niceties of the box set. The only possible wild-card audio advantage here would be if in your case you have both a cd player a stand-alone DAC unit and the latter one sounds significantly better than the first. The USB set is a fine choice, but for convenience purposes and not primarily audio differences, I would venture.
July 30, 2015 - 7:17pm

#5648

Life may be sw…

Joined:
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What Jerry Would Really Say About The 50th Merchandise

I'm feeling great about the Band's 50th, loved Santa Clara, excited about the box set and all the other offerings! For those of limited means, check out Archive.org of course where there are tons of free soundboards the band lets stream free. If you have a bit more, get spotify which allows you to stream all Dick's Picks, Road Trips, All Europe 72, plus most studio and other live releases. Earlier in the thread people complained about the Bands money grab. For the cynical Dead Heads who project some nostalgic, Jerry would never allow this nonsense, recall that Jerry sold his artwork on ties for Petes sake! And for those who think the band/Jerry in the good old days wanted to give it All away and not live well, check out this quote from Garcia. Peace to all, and enjoy the celebration and the ever evolving grateful dead derivations! Fuck ‘people’s music’.” laughs Jerry Garcia from a reclining seat in the plush, wood-finished business offices of the band. (The comfortably expansive cluster of rooms are located in a streamlined San Rafael complex.) “I mean, I thought it was a dumb discussion even when it was the big thing awhile back to talk about how music should be free… that music belongs to the people and musicians rip them off. That kind of thing really irks me. “It’s like, in order to get so you can play music you have to sacrifice a lot of what would have been your normal life. You know what I mean? For lack of a better phrase, you have to pay the dues to get so you can play music. It’s not a thing you just do. If that were so, everybody’d be making their own music and there wouldn’t be professional musicians. There’d be no need for them. For someone to deny the fact that you spent a certain amount of your life working on some sort of discipline and learning how to play… that’s the rip-off. That’s the state versus the individual. Anytime someone comes down on artists and claims their work on any level, I think that’s pure bullshit. There’s been too many great musicians who died poor. People’s music… it just ain’t so.”
July 30, 2015 - 5:45pm

#5649

DaveStrang

Joined:
November 9, 2011

@ Clovett / Elvis' 'Can't Help Falling In Love With You'

Quite possibly the most beautiful love song ever written. That's a great "set-list" for your daughters. I'm happy to see folks starting their kids on music when they're so young. I think music for kids is as important as reading. You need to "feed" the ears as well as the eyes. It's not easy to find but I would suggest adding Rickie Lee Jones 'Rainbow Sleeves' to your kids lullaby "set-list". I'm a cantankerous 55 year old, but my eyes still tear up when I hear it. It's absolutely gorgeous. Kudos to you!
July 30, 2015 - 2:41pm

#5650

WharfratWhitey

Joined:
May 19, 2013

Old Man Not Down...

The Rhino deal...yeaaaahhh. This has been a match almost made in heaven if you're a guy like me that enjoys the nicely packaged, historical write ups, photos, top-shelfie Dead. But I offer you a sample from the WharfratWhitey Vault. A fairly well known ditty that goes like this: 'I wish they would do some general non-limited releases like Crimson, Truckin' Up, Ladies & Gentlemen, Fillmore East 1969, etc.' You guys remember this popular ditty of mine. Give me a reason to go to my local record store more than twice per year(RSD, RSDBF). Peace.

John Perry Barlow

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"When we began discussing audio projects to commemorate the 50th anniversary of the Grateful Dead back in 2012, we knew we wanted to do something completely unprecedented. We could think of nothing more exciting or ambitious than a career-spanning overview of the band's live legacy focused on what best tells the story: complete concerts. Our first criterion was the very best live music to represent any given year in the band’s history. We wanted to make sure that there were not only the tent-pole shows that fans have been demanding for decades but also ones that are slightly more under the radar, but equally excellent. For those who listen to the entire box straight through, chronologically, the narrative of the Grateful Dead's live legacy will be seen as second to none in the pantheon of music history." - David Lemieux

We are more than pleased to announce the Grateful Dead's most ambitious release ever: 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN. Available as both an 80-disc boxed set and a custom lightning-bolt USB drive, the collection includes 30 unreleased live shows, one for each year the band was together from 1966 to 1995, along with one track from their earliest recording sessions in 1965. Packed with over 73 hours of music, both the boxed set and the USB drive will be individually numbered limited editions.

The 80-disc boxed set is individually numbered and limited to 6,500 copies, a nod to the band’s formation in 1965. Along with the CDs, it also includes a gold-colored 7-inch vinyl single which bookends the band’s career. The A-side is “Caution (Do Not Stop On Tracks)” from the band’s earliest recording session in 1965 with the B-side of the last song the band ever performed together live, “Box Of Rain” recorded during their final encore at Soldier Field in Chicago on July 9, 1995.

The box also comes with a 288-page book that features an extensive, career-spanning essay written by Nick Meriwether, who oversees the Dead archives at the University of California, Santa Cruz, along with special remembrances of the band submitted by fans. Also included is a scroll that offers a visual representation of how the band’s live repertoire has evolved through the years.

The USB drive version* will be shaped like a gold lightning bolt with the Grateful Dead 50th anniversary logo engraved on the side. The drive includes all of the music from the collection in both FLAC (96/24) and MP3 formats and is an individually numbered limited edition of 1,000 copies. Digital version of the book also included on USB.

Shows will NOT be sold individually on CD. This release is sure to sell out quickly so pre-order your copy today and stick around as we will be revealing a mighty fine selection of music, art, and much, much more right here.

(Looking for a smaller 50th Anniversary commemorative keepsake? September 18th will see the release of a four-CD version of the collection titled 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN: THE DEFINITIVE LIVE STORY 1965-1995. More on that here.)

ROLLINGSTONE.COM SONG PREMIERE AND EXCLUSIVE DAVID LEMIEUX INTERVIEW
Head on over to Rollingstone.com for the very first listen of "Morning Dew" 9/18/87 Madison Square Garden, David Fricke's exclusive interview with archivist David Lemieux, and the reveal of 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN's '69 and '84 shows.

*Helpful hints for using your USB:

Running the 30 Trips Player / Reader program:
On Windows – Navigate to the USB drive and double click the PCStart.exe file to run.
On MacOS – Open the GD 30 Trips drive, and double click the MacStart to run.

Viewing the digital book:
You can either view it within the program that comes on the drive, or by opening the PDF directly.

To view the PDF, open the PDF folder on the drive and the USB_bk_spreads_08-31 file within. Selecting the option within your PDF reading application to view as a “single page” might be preferable to viewing as a continuous document.

Importing music into iTunes and other library programs:
When you import the songs from the USB into your library, the information used to identify the track will likely leave them sorted incorrectly. Please use the song list found here to re-number the songs for each show so that they playback in the correct order.
PDF
Text

ok, how do you get to the book

went over this thing with a fine tooth comb, can't find access to the book anywhere, I see the 45 in lid and I can see the scroll, but can't get to it, so far, what I can see, looks ok, now, how do I get this thing open

1980s

Apropos of nothing to do with the decision on what to release and not release, which is not a preference decision but a quality and sales viability issue, Dave's comments would suggest he is a big fan of 1980 and the late 1980s, 87-89. He does not speak as glowingly about the mid-80s and the reasons are obvious and certainly not unique to him. On the 10/21/83 show, there is a matrix out there that is hands down better than the quality of what was released.

Nail on the head . . .

Mr. Jack Straw, you are right on! Unkle Sam, if you pull down on the name rims on the long sides of the bottom of the box, you'll find your hidden treasure; just watch the video above if my direction isn't clear. Enjoy!

found it

guess I shouldn't have smoked before I opened the box. Could not see the video on other browser.

80's tapes and 30 trips selections

a few headscracthers in the box for me,, my reasoning is they had to pick something without stepping on any toes for future releases (1981 LOL !!!) And also remember the compilation looks like it has a nice flow due to some of the show selections (mere coincidence Shakedown is 1st track on one of the discs?) Could be why they went with 5.16.81 and this was the chance to release some flawed tapes that would have gotten a lot of bad reviews if it were an individual release, but buried in the box its really a mere footnote for most... For the big 30 trips box it seems they did reach a little for some years.. a few spot on picks include in Box on or would have made my top 3 1967 1969 1975 1979 1984 1987 1988 1989 1994 1995 but for 1981 are you saving the November and December shows for a box set ?? Great sounding tapes with very nice perfomances !! I would have went with Nov. or Dec. 1981 to include in big box. 1982 - without that Scarlet > Fire there is no way he would have selected it.. 8.10.82 is a better sounding tape and has a good amount of highlights, but nothing like the Scarlet > Fire

g1u2i3

Thanks for the comment. I am a little dense at times, what does that handle mean? Is it Gooey 213? I do appreciate the comment. My story telling still did not say exactly what I wanted (i.e. how the numbers really matched up). I really hesitated before I hit save. I got home last night wishing I had just deleted the post. I was concerned others would castigate me. Any way, been at the office for a while. Heading home to start the B/D celebration. The weather is awesome here today. Time to go start enjoying this beautiful green day and open this box. Hoping it is all there and in good shape...will be back in touch. Edit: Oh yeah, I have not watched the youtube video on the Jerry interview. It constantly pops up when I am watching Grateful Dead related videos there but just have not gotten around to watching it. I will definitely try to watch it in the next few days.

@Zuckfun

Thanks for the Dr. Rhino address. I'll send him an e-mail shortly.

Update of continental heads please....

Still waiting here in Austria, mmmmhhhh , no further information tooWhat about you folks from Italy , Germany , Belgium , Netherlands, France, UK ? Last time i got my Spring TOO box 8 days after it was shipped but earlier another package took six weeks to make it over here....

RSD list - Oct.27

and maybe Almanac announcement including DP2016 Edit - Neil Casal Fare Thee Well intermission music 2LP,, not sure if they will do a GD vinyl.. I am unclear if Neil Casal 2LP is under Rhino label. But its late in the game for RSD action,, this could be it

Done

Disc all ripped in. Need to edit them all and recheck labels. I use cd-ex for ripping and NONE of the disc were entered in, so I had to type all the info in. But now done.

Dennis Wilmot

What a chore. Thankful had to do none of that here.

re: mbarilla

Good analysis. The only 2 questions in my mind are why no matrix mixes for 80's tapes and why 5/16/81. I guess I will have the latter question addressed once I get to listening to the recording. Who knows, I might be able to justify it in my mind as Dead.net apparently has.

Re: Update of continental heads please....

Don't know whether all European sets have been shipped together, but DHL tracking now reports shipment has crossed the pond, cleared customs, and is now in the East Midlands ready for delivery!

80s sound

With the exception of '82, I thought they sounded acceptable ('85 has some hiccups), and the '84 show exceeded my expectations.

Arrival Outside Boston

Box #1813 landed on my stoop yesterday/Monday and it was a Holiday/off work no less so I was able to wrap myself around this bad boy in a fairly significant way. No miracle, but love the scroll and the question is do I have a wall space available to frame and hang this sucker?? it's pretty neat. Book is also a nice touch with the leather cover and of course the secret stashes for each item are cool. My 1 1/2 year old thinks those compartments are the coolest... Ticket: Cal Expo, 5/27/93 Backstage Pass: Delta Center Salt Lake City, 2/19/95 No personal ties to either so if anyone is interested in a swap, PM me.... Started out listening to '67 in most of its entirety (outstanding), then proceeded to jump all over the place, revisiting some gems from back in my cassette days. But started with the '73, then jumped to '76, then I really wanted to hear the start of the second set in Cape Cod, so naturally the '79 got some airplay. I was at the '94 show in Boston so looking forward to getting into that one formally as well. Hours of listening in front of us All.... No overall issues with the box itself in terms of construction and shipment. Inside has red felt. Interesting that there seems to be a split between red vs. blue innards. Glad we're all starting to revel in the receipt; for those who still have the acquisition to look forward to - there is no disappointment here, enjoy the anticipation! Sixtus

Gary Farseer . . .

. . . g1u2i3 doesn't stand for anything. Many years ago, I was trying to set up a new username with "guitar" in the name and kept getting it rejected over and over again. Finally, out of frustration, I just added numbers 1,2 and 3 in between the "gui" of guitar and voilà, it was accepted. Simple as that. Wish I had a more creative interpretation.

Question: The Book in the Europe '72 Box Set?

I missed out on the Europe '72 Trunk and all its goodies, but bought the music only version. For those who got the trunk, can you tell me if the Book included is worth seeking out to purchase? And now that you've had a chance to look at it, what would be the most you would pay for it? Thanks!

I love a good conspiracy theory..

Did I somehow miss yet another conspiracy theory? Damn.. Well, now that the cats out of the bag, I KNEW IT!. Jerry is alive and well, living in a guarded complex in Fuji, snorkeling by day snoring by night. He lives comfortably with two roomies, Elvis and Roy Orbison. As many of you already know.. Elvis HATES 1980's GD.. he digs that '70's sound. So there you have it. I think that explains it, no loose ends. Back to the box. _________________________________ One Edit/Add: Unlike Elvis.. I do like 80's shows. They are playing Dicks Picks 13 on SiriusXM today, man.. that Let It Grow freakin' smokes. As for my box.. it arrived yesterday. I am so overwhelmed.. I really don't know where to start. I only streamed half a show (95 at that).. I guess I will start at '66 and remember to take baby steps. Holy mother of god.. this thing is massive in scope.

@ purpleerik69

Boxilla left yesterday DHL downtown Harrisburg (Pennsylvania) to Cincinnati (Ohio). He left Cincinnati today. I am in France. DHL announces a delivery for me Thursday. I hope!

Miracle

Yes, I had a miracle yesterday but it had nothing to do with the scroll.After discovering my box had damage I was somewhat bummed. I decided not to focus on it and play some of the delicious music instead. Bam, the power goes out. I think, after all this waiting you've got to be kidding!! Must find batteries for boom box. No "c" batteries. I decide listing on computer speakers would be a buzz-kill. This quandry continues for an hour. My girlfriend says let's go for a ride so you can hear some JERRY. As soon as the sacred name is spoken the power comes on!!!! Thank You, JERRY

@ Tysonsupina

Great story!

Re: The Book in the Europe '72 Box Set?

For me, the book included in Europe '72 is really worth. For three reasons, two very personal: - It is very well done, with lots of photos of musicians on stage; - David Lemieux has published the photo of the front of the theater of Olympia (in Paris) I sent him, and he used the articles of the French rock press of the time for the text of the book I also sent him; - And in the last page of the book, my name is mentioned among the people thanked. You understand that this book was for me a far greater value than market value. I do not sell it.

Re: Alain and Tyson..

Alain and Tyson, both very cool stories, thanks for sharing.. I like the E-72 book also, and don't mind the trunk (although I am careful with it). Good coffee table book, but I bet most sit in the trunk and don't get out much.

'79 to '82 show's

Doesn't surprise me that they don't sound that great. These are the only releases in the box from cassettes and there the only show's that didn't get a proper transfer. They all run slow and the pitch is off and the '82 show was recorded with Dolby B that was left off during transfer.

@ purpleerik69 (2)

My package just arrived in Brussels (Belgium)! Tomorrow in Paris? The next day at home?

Stealing Music?

Is it illegal to post free downloads of officially released music online without permission? They're be allowed to do just that by the administrator with the 30 Trips box on that Facebook Fan page that is frequently mentioned here. If it is illegal, I would recommend the guy pull it down before he gets seriously fined and urge others not to post links to free downloads of music I had to pay $700 for. Not at all cool.

In other Facebook news...

I unfriend you! That's not how it works, that's not how any of this works.

Not at all cool..

Everyone here knows how much you dislike that guy on the Grateful Dead Facebook fan page, Spacebrother, but trying to get him in trouble with Rhino or possibly the law is just low. The other guy doesn't bring it over here so keep it out of this forum. Thank you.

Anyone Else?

Has anyone else that has ordered this box still not receive the box or some sort of shipping info? My order status still shows Backordered and no shipping email either.

Re: Brilliant

..I don't do facebook, but if I did, I would friend you (if that's how it works). That cracked me up and is almost as funny as your holding out for Super High Def comment a few months back on the Spring TOO page. Thanks Dantian.

one reason 5.16.81 was the pick

1. MSG 2 night box set - March 9, 10. Lol

Welcome to Los Angeles

my 16 pounds of gold has arrived

Serendipity

A few years ago I bought an original unused ticket from my first show, Ventura County Fairgrounds 7/22/84. Wouldn't you know it, the ticket in my 30 Trips box set is from my last show, Oakland Coliseum 10/27/91. Better than a Miracle scroll!

# 2839 Arrived in the Eastern Sierra, California

In perfect condition. The box truly is a masterpiece. Little details: hidden magnets to close the two bottom compartments. The quotes inside the 'doors'. The book is beautiful. I checked and it does have threads stitched through the binding, so hopefully it will not fall apart over time even if the glue fails. Ticket: October 30, 1991- Oakland Coliseum, Pass: August 22, 1993 Autzen Stadium, Eugene Oregon. I am very much looking forward to listening to these shows!

To TPTB...

You've got my contact info. Why not use it and give me some sort of f'n update?Completely in the dark,not a fun way to fly....

Some more notes on box....

I had mention (and others also) about veneer peeling off, I had suggested wood glue. My veneers on the two hidden flaps had just a little. Like when they opened it to put books and scroll inside it peeled a tiny bit. I got some wood glue, applied with a toothpick and clamped with a paper clip. Worked great. Since I've ripped all my disc in, I threw the box on the shelf, what really struck me was why didn't they start with Jerry's name on the front panel, now I look at the box and it says "Pen Bill Phil Mickey",,, kinda odd where they started?!? Minor complaints I know, glad I got it. The very last disc wasn't recognized in my desktop computer, but worked just fine in my wife's laptop. I've had that with lots of other disc, will not rip on drive 1, but works in drive 2. I don't know why??? But no missing disc, no cracked disc. Can always have a bad rip, will never know until I listen to them all. That may take awhile, only so much listen time available. I guess everyone was right about it looking like a case of beer, my wife came home last night and it was on the counter, finally she said, oh that's the box you bought, I thought it was a case of beer. :-) I also chuckled to myself several times while reading Dave's comments on the inside cover of each disc. Did he go to the Trump school of marketing. His use of superlatives for everything made me laugh, I could only hear "the Donald". It was a tremendously monsterest Don't Ease Me In, the like of which the world will never see again,,, and I know because people come up to me all the time and tell me I know Dead shows like no one else, but me an Jerry were personal friends. Many a time Jerry would tell me how he just couldn't keep up with me in the amount of blow I could do. And of course I only got the best blow,,,, Jer told me that all the time. Enjoy you boxes and the ones that didn't get one, their loser with low energy :-)

wilfredtjones and data entering

I sucks to do, but at least it's my way. I don't rip them in like disc 1, disc 2, disc 3 with tracks 1-8, 1-6, 1-9. I rip them into a common folder and number them 1-end. My folder will contain all the songs numbered in order. I don't care which set it is, or if it's an encore. You'll know when you listen. The worst part is adding the ">" to the id tag. Still in the air if it's easier to just type filename with out and add greater than to tag after, or rip with greater than in filename, have it turn to an "_", then change the filename. It's a buck dancers choice I guess.

UPDATE Europe '72 book?

I have the Europe '72 box set, and don't recall getting a book with it. I guess maybe I'd better open my trunk up tonight and see..... I looked. It was there......a real DOH!! moment

Ok I screwed up..

... I thought I was just deleting all my "sent" "PM"S", but I deleted all my "PM's". I know I was in touch with a couple of people about "things",, a Jeremy and a "I" guy, took care of tony F today, but now I don't have your info. I think that was Jeremy K. If you're waiting to hear from me, you may need to remail. Hit me at dennis.wilmot@verizon.net. Jeremy K, I see you in my email files.

Update from the Netherlands

DHL phoned me this evening to tell me how much I would have to pay them (import duty, tax, their charges for presenting the thing to customs), asked me how I wanted to pay (I chose to pay the delivery man when he brings it - he has a mobile PIN thang for bank and credit cards) and told me that delivery would occur on Thursday. Gotta take a day off work to be home for that. Had already arranged to take Friday off so its gonna be a long weekend. No problem with that!

How many of these shows are multi track masters?

I know the 89 show is mastered the same way Spring TOO was, but which other shows do you think have that quality?

#6429 arrives in Irvine, CA

Quick review: Damage free; red-felt; Ticket 10/30/91 Oakland, CA; Backstage Pass 8/22/93 Eugene, OR ....let's get ripping!

Europe '72 book

g1u2i3, I can't claim Alain's most excellent reasons for the Europe '72 book being dear to his heart (super cool), but I love it. The treasury of photos alone is worth it, and one section is nothing BUT photos. Plus some great reminiscences by a variety of those who were aboard. Well worth seeking out, in my opinion. The definitive document on that tour. Well, except for the audio documents, of course.....

Show quality for 83

Yeah - I can hear the kick drum as well, but when I listen to 10-15-83, I hear the kick drum, but its not so abrasive. That is disappointing since I love all the shows i've heard from late 83.

@ sfrank115

As far as I know, only the 11/10/67 L A show & 10/26/89 Miami shows were multi-track masters. the 11/10/67 show was an eight track recorder (as opposed to 2, 4, 16, 24 track analog machines), while the 89 show was 24 track analog.

Hey anrumler

I've gotten nothing either. No notice, no shipping information, no UPS tracking. I got all the notifications while we waited for months, but I'm getting impatient with the current wait.

#0040 Arrives in Kansas City MO

Arrived in great shape. Red Felt. Ticket is 10/27/91 Oakland CA. Backstage pass is 06/08/93 Auburn Hills, MI Looking forward to starting to listen tomorrow on the way to work!

Deep thoughts with mbarilla

I think mbarilla is really onto something with his analysis of the shows in the box. It's fascinating to think of how they're breaking down the vault and all the ideas and future releases floating around. In a box like this it probably is likely that they throw in a few duds. Shows that could never stand on their own as a DaP and wouldn't ever be a part of a box other than something like this. What good are they doing sitting in the vault taking up space and slowly getting older like the rest of us? Why not release them and hang onto the other shows that could possibly fit these other formats someday. I don't think they're purposely giving us stinkers but they found quality shows that are worth releasing with an audience patch and maybe less than ideal sound. This is the best format to do it.

MIRACLE in Iowa!

Show Quality

Yeah, that totally makes sense. Shows that could not stand on their own would logically end up in 30T. There are other plans for better sounding shows, or ones that would fit some smaller theme. We won't get shows like these again until a huge download plundering of the vault occurs, probably years from now. So why are people buying individual shows from this box? Oh, forgot - to fund someone's "eye operation". This reminds me, let's petition again for an Ignore button. It would cut down on feuds because you'd never even see posts from your favorite vile POS antagonist. Or the ill-advised reactions to them. Like mine!

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