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"When we began discussing audio projects to commemorate the 50th anniversary of the Grateful Dead back in 2012, we knew we wanted to do something completely unprecedented. We could think of nothing more exciting or ambitious than a career-spanning overview of the band's live legacy focused on what best tells the story: complete concerts. Our first criterion was the very best live music to represent any given year in the band’s history. We wanted to make sure that there were not only the tent-pole shows that fans have been demanding for decades but also ones that are slightly more under the radar, but equally excellent. For those who listen to the entire box straight through, chronologically, the narrative of the Grateful Dead's live legacy will be seen as second to none in the pantheon of music history." - David Lemieux

We are more than pleased to announce the Grateful Dead's most ambitious release ever: 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN. Available as both an 80-disc boxed set and a custom lightning-bolt USB drive, the collection includes 30 unreleased live shows, one for each year the band was together from 1966 to 1995, along with one track from their earliest recording sessions in 1965. Packed with over 73 hours of music, both the boxed set and the USB drive will be individually numbered limited editions.

The 80-disc boxed set is individually numbered and limited to 6,500 copies, a nod to the band’s formation in 1965. Along with the CDs, it also includes a gold-colored 7-inch vinyl single which bookends the band’s career. The A-side is “Caution (Do Not Stop On Tracks)” from the band’s earliest recording session in 1965 with the B-side of the last song the band ever performed together live, “Box Of Rain” recorded during their final encore at Soldier Field in Chicago on July 9, 1995.

The box also comes with a 288-page book that features an extensive, career-spanning essay written by Nick Meriwether, who oversees the Dead archives at the University of California, Santa Cruz, along with special remembrances of the band submitted by fans. Also included is a scroll that offers a visual representation of how the band’s live repertoire has evolved through the years.

The USB drive version* will be shaped like a gold lightning bolt with the Grateful Dead 50th anniversary logo engraved on the side. The drive includes all of the music from the collection in both FLAC (96/24) and MP3 formats and is an individually numbered limited edition of 1,000 copies. Digital version of the book also included on USB.

Shows will NOT be sold individually on CD. This release is sure to sell out quickly so pre-order your copy today and stick around as we will be revealing a mighty fine selection of music, art, and much, much more right here.

(Looking for a smaller 50th Anniversary commemorative keepsake? September 18th will see the release of a four-CD version of the collection titled 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN: THE DEFINITIVE LIVE STORY 1965-1995. More on that here.)

ROLLINGSTONE.COM SONG PREMIERE AND EXCLUSIVE DAVID LEMIEUX INTERVIEW
Head on over to Rollingstone.com for the very first listen of "Morning Dew" 9/18/87 Madison Square Garden, David Fricke's exclusive interview with archivist David Lemieux, and the reveal of 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN's '69 and '84 shows.

*Helpful hints for using your USB:

Running the 30 Trips Player / Reader program:
On Windows – Navigate to the USB drive and double click the PCStart.exe file to run.
On MacOS – Open the GD 30 Trips drive, and double click the MacStart to run.

Viewing the digital book:
You can either view it within the program that comes on the drive, or by opening the PDF directly.

To view the PDF, open the PDF folder on the drive and the USB_bk_spreads_08-31 file within. Selecting the option within your PDF reading application to view as a “single page” might be preferable to viewing as a continuous document.

Importing music into iTunes and other library programs:
When you import the songs from the USB into your library, the information used to identify the track will likely leave them sorted incorrectly. Please use the song list found here to re-number the songs for each show so that they playback in the correct order.
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February 10, 2016 - 4:41pm

#181

jrf68@hotmail.com

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Off topic

Moses GuestLive Stages Get some...it's good. :) ...Over The Car->Under The Stairs...
February 10, 2016 - 3:13pm

#182

LoveJerry

Joined:
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dharwin

Somebody on the other thread, I forget who, brought up a point about the secondary market, which was basically that Rhino depends on it to ensure they sell x number of copies of each release in a very short amount of time. This guy who wrote the article worked for a record company or something, I wish I could find the post. But it totally makes sense. Basically, Rhino needs to sellout each release in 3 or 4 weeks to not only be profitable, but to extend the life of the series. By making it limited edition, they sellout immediately and actually rely on the secondary market to be there and buy out what the individuals don't buy. It amounts to free distribution for Rhino. They sell off their 16,500 Dave's Picks in a week, and never pay a dime in distribution costs. For Rhino this means more dollars per unit and less units sold to make both make a profit and re-invest in the next release (and making the next profit). So I get it. Rhino is a very unique position, in that they have a rare product with seemingly no end, and this thing called the internet. And in fact, these very message boards are a major source of advertisement. I'm just happy I'm ahead of the curve now. I spent a lot on eBay back-filling my Dead collection. What I would be interested in, is the legalities involved in re-issuing a product that they originally sold as a limited quantity item. Even if legal, I doubt they would do it, out of fear of ruining their current, buy it now, while it's hot sales model, which is undoubtedly working. One thing I feel confident in, is that if Rhino felt that re-releasing FW 69 Complete would be profitable in the long run, they would do it (and perhaps they will). But I imagine it's a tricky balance, as Morning Sun said - never underestimate the turmoil of breaking a promise to the original people who bought it (of whom I am not one - fucker cost me 400 bucks). Plus I'm sure they all have a dozen copies of all of them that they're saving for 10 years from now when they're going for a grand on eBay ;-)
February 10, 2016 - 9:55am

#183

Cousins Of The…

Joined:
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FW 69 re-release

Not sure what the exact wording was when they first released it, but some of the music included in the set has been available on the 3 disc compilation.Rhino could produce a set with all 4 FW 69 shows, add 2-11-69 Fillmore East release, change the name and add a disclaimer that would say something like "portions of this set was previously released as Ltd Edition FW box set, etc." Lots of "limited Edition only", and "promo only" music has been re-released that way.
February 10, 2016 - 8:31am

#184

mbarilla

Joined:
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FW69 Box set

if they want to re-release they would definetely need a new mix. I dont think packaging much to do with it
February 10, 2016 - 7:43am

#185

Roland Bruynesteyn

Joined:
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re-release FW'69

FWIW, let me echo SpaceBro's (and others) sentiment: I own FW'69, and enjoy it immensely.By all means, re-release it, so that more people can enjoy it. I do not mind scalping, or a secondary market. In general, I don't mind limited editions, bonus discs with first runs etc; companies can run their business as they see fit. But I'm a capitalist through and through: if more people want it, and Rhino can make more money, by all means let's do it. I know that the secondary market, at least in this particular case, exists bcause Rhino said that FW'69 would never be released (in any form?) again. Some people would feel cheated if, after paying a lot (NOT to Rhino though), it was re-released. But surely most Deadheads would want other Deadheads to be able to acquire this set, and there should be some way around it (cheaper packaging or whatever) to get past this?
February 10, 2016 - 6:37am

#186

Born Cross Eye…

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FW 69 box re-issue?

Yes, reissue it as a limited edition of 16,000.$130 each + shipping and sales taxes where applicable. For that $130 you'll get the four shows - 2/27, 2/28, 3/1 & 3/2/1969 in 4 tye-dyed design artwork, thin cardboard type sleeves with a simple booklet with only the song titles, the track times, the songwriters credits and publishers credits with two or three photos, WITHOUT AN ESSAY, all enclosed in a lightweight cardboard case with artwork similar to the original 2005 issue.
February 10, 2016 - 6:14am

#187

Sun King

Joined:
September 19, 2007

shrine vinyl et al...

glad to hear the 69 shrine vinyl release sounds so good. i plan on picking one up soon. as for the 69 box, and other limited releases, i think rhino needs to view their 'investment' in the grateful dead as being holders of something culturally significant. limited edition stuff should be just the initial physical product, but everything should be available via download. as i've said before, they should act like smithsonian/folkways, where nothing they have ever released goes out of print. you can't go to their site and order an original woody guthrie or leadbelly record, those have been out of print forever, but you can download it or order a custom burned cd. there is nothing you can not order. i believe rhino is just waiting for the last 150 usb's to sell, then they will offer all 30 shows via download. as for the 69box, i don't remember their wording, but a physical product probably can't, or shouldn't, be re-released that way, but all 4 shows should be put out via download, if the suits think they can legally do it. if not, lesson learned....
February 9, 2016 - 7:28pm

#188

Charlie3

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Ramble On

Dennis Wilmot, feel free to ramble on, you made some good points in a funny way. it sounds like I may have been one of the same two people seated next to you at shows;)For my two cents, I have the 30 trips box and it wouldn't bother me a bit if they made another production run in the future, with or without all the extras. I didn't buy it as an investment, I purchased it because I wanted to have the music and after missing out on FW69 I knew I would regret not having it more than I would regret spending the money. At some point I would like to pick up FW69, but there is a limit to what I can pay and feel OK about the purchase. I understand that the limited edition model is probably what makes the ongoing releases possible to this extent, so it is what it is, but it seems that they could set it up so that it would be possible to reissue things after some period of time. As far as copying limited edition releases, I guess the band makes their money when the original sale occurs and are unaffected by any subsequent transactions, so there's that.
February 9, 2016 - 6:53pm

#189

Dennis

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Re-releases, Limited Editions, illegal copies, ebay prices

I throw my 2 cents into this, I agree with those that say a release of limited edition stuff as maybe a digital download is just fine with me. As always if price is the limiting factor I can not believe you can't find someone to make you a copy. Some say "oh that's illegal", sounds like corporate lawyer talk to me. I agree you shouldn't be knocking out 1,000 copies of something and selling them at the local flea market, but to slip a buddy a copy, fuck no. I remember when people didn't even think twice about making a cassette copy for a friend. Of course the "industry" hated that, they even tried to get a "tax" on blank tapes to cover the "losses" they were suffering. What hogwash! The record companies seem to be doing fine! Ebay prices will disappear or come down if people stop buying them, just like tickets for sporting events (which sports fan seem to believe are way out of whack). Remember when FM first took off and stations would play a perfect album side, even told you when to start your tape. I'm sorry if the record industry makes a product that is easy to copy. Why didn't they just keep producing records? You couldn't copy them as easily as cd. Because they wanted to squeeze out the free music of radio, cd's people would buy more of because you could take them in your car. Did the industry ever return money for those shit 8 tracks that they sold? Or even the shit cassettes they sold? Those store bought tapes NEVER lasted long, but a good maxell made at home lasted forever? I still have cassettes I made from 1980 that play just fine. But the few store bought ones I got the cases always warped in the heat.I think I can most assuredly say that if you could shove a new caddy into a port of the computer and have it shit out a new caddy, everyone would have a new caddy and be saying fuck GM. (probably a lot of people already saying that) You don't see anyone making "illegal" copies of books and you could zerox a whole book. I'm surprise the corporate lawyers haven't tried to shut down public libraries, since they allow people to listen, read and view all copyright material without paying any fee to the owner of the copy right material. There was a point when Mickey Mouse was about to enter the public domain and Disney just couldn't let that happen, so they had congressman Sony Bono push thru a revision of the copyright laws that allowed them to keep the copyright. (see - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copyright_Term_Extension_Act ) Technically if you owned a bar, you couldn't play cd's you own there without a fee being paid to industry. CD's YOU OWN! Can you imagine if you bought a repair guide for a car you owned and you got a second car of the same make and being told you couldn't use that manual to fix the second car, that the use of the manual was only for the first car. You have that same thing with software you buy, you buy the package but can't use it where ever you want, only once (maybe 3 times for some) Sorry I've rambled a bit, but corporations piss me off. They want risk socialize and profits privatized. They want to be citizens with no one responsible for jail time. Fuck them! Record profits and the world still fights for crumbs. On the illegal front, I get a chuckle out of this. I thought it was illegal to bring "drugs" into shows or buy and sell them. Oh, I forgot nobody who went to dead shows did drugs. Like nobody in England watches Doctor Who. The show has been on for 50 years and nobody admits they watch it! Just like back in the .net days, nobody on net.dead did drugs! I must have always got seated next to the same other 2 people who did :-) Once again sorry for the excessive rambling.
February 9, 2016 - 5:20pm

#190

dharwin

Joined:
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Just to be clear...

I am fully supportive of a re-release of the FW69 box. The whole reason I have the info that I have is that (being the anal retentive completist that I am) I emailed David Lemieux to ask why in the hell the box set hadn't been reissued. Any deadhead that has looked at eBay in the last 5 years can see that this box is in absurdly high demand. I hate the idea of limited releases and find it absurd that they would limit anything. The only thing that does is drive up the price on secondary markets (just look at the 30 trips box on eBay).

John Perry Barlow

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"When we began discussing audio projects to commemorate the 50th anniversary of the Grateful Dead back in 2012, we knew we wanted to do something completely unprecedented. We could think of nothing more exciting or ambitious than a career-spanning overview of the band's live legacy focused on what best tells the story: complete concerts. Our first criterion was the very best live music to represent any given year in the band’s history. We wanted to make sure that there were not only the tent-pole shows that fans have been demanding for decades but also ones that are slightly more under the radar, but equally excellent. For those who listen to the entire box straight through, chronologically, the narrative of the Grateful Dead's live legacy will be seen as second to none in the pantheon of music history." - David Lemieux

We are more than pleased to announce the Grateful Dead's most ambitious release ever: 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN. Available as both an 80-disc boxed set and a custom lightning-bolt USB drive, the collection includes 30 unreleased live shows, one for each year the band was together from 1966 to 1995, along with one track from their earliest recording sessions in 1965. Packed with over 73 hours of music, both the boxed set and the USB drive will be individually numbered limited editions.

The 80-disc boxed set is individually numbered and limited to 6,500 copies, a nod to the band’s formation in 1965. Along with the CDs, it also includes a gold-colored 7-inch vinyl single which bookends the band’s career. The A-side is “Caution (Do Not Stop On Tracks)” from the band’s earliest recording session in 1965 with the B-side of the last song the band ever performed together live, “Box Of Rain” recorded during their final encore at Soldier Field in Chicago on July 9, 1995.

The box also comes with a 288-page book that features an extensive, career-spanning essay written by Nick Meriwether, who oversees the Dead archives at the University of California, Santa Cruz, along with special remembrances of the band submitted by fans. Also included is a scroll that offers a visual representation of how the band’s live repertoire has evolved through the years.

The USB drive version* will be shaped like a gold lightning bolt with the Grateful Dead 50th anniversary logo engraved on the side. The drive includes all of the music from the collection in both FLAC (96/24) and MP3 formats and is an individually numbered limited edition of 1,000 copies. Digital version of the book also included on USB.

Shows will NOT be sold individually on CD. This release is sure to sell out quickly so pre-order your copy today and stick around as we will be revealing a mighty fine selection of music, art, and much, much more right here.

(Looking for a smaller 50th Anniversary commemorative keepsake? September 18th will see the release of a four-CD version of the collection titled 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN: THE DEFINITIVE LIVE STORY 1965-1995. More on that here.)

ROLLINGSTONE.COM SONG PREMIERE AND EXCLUSIVE DAVID LEMIEUX INTERVIEW
Head on over to Rollingstone.com for the very first listen of "Morning Dew" 9/18/87 Madison Square Garden, David Fricke's exclusive interview with archivist David Lemieux, and the reveal of 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN's '69 and '84 shows.

*Helpful hints for using your USB:

Running the 30 Trips Player / Reader program:
On Windows – Navigate to the USB drive and double click the PCStart.exe file to run.
On MacOS – Open the GD 30 Trips drive, and double click the MacStart to run.

Viewing the digital book:
You can either view it within the program that comes on the drive, or by opening the PDF directly.

To view the PDF, open the PDF folder on the drive and the USB_bk_spreads_08-31 file within. Selecting the option within your PDF reading application to view as a “single page” might be preferable to viewing as a continuous document.

Importing music into iTunes and other library programs:
When you import the songs from the USB into your library, the information used to identify the track will likely leave them sorted incorrectly. Please use the song list found here to re-number the songs for each show so that they playback in the correct order.
PDF
Text

Merci, Vguy72 !

Merci, Vguy72 ! Highly tomorrow, for you, for me and others.

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Violating Terms of Use and Civic Engagement

Why are we bombarded every day with sales posts from a certain overseas member, who is using this space for personal gain through commodification. The Terms of Use for this site states it is forbidden to: "Use the Site to advertise or offer to sell or buy any goods or services without our express prior written consent." So why is this continually allowed to go on here? It's unethical and an abuse of what this space is for. Do we need moderators? Or do they need more help? This needs to be addressed. Who do we need to contact to communicate this to the management of this site?

Kate C

Although I only comprehend 1/3 of your knowledge, I hear ya about blind loyalty to purchase. But since this isn't technically Rhino selling this anymore you should see if anyone on this site may have some 90's shows for sale. Who knows you may get lucky and someone posts they have these available to purchase. I doubt it though. Good Luck

@Ziffle

Concerning the worst sounding shows on USB vs CD, when they said they used different masters I expect for the USB they didn't do any fadeouts and the slight overlaps that they do for the CD's, plus in order to do the HDCD encoding, the peak amplitude must be under -6db because the HDCD adds 6db (or decoding reduces by 6db - amounting to the same thing). Maybe they applied some dynamic range compression to the CD masters, but if so I bet it would be a very small amount. In the past I posted how it appears they did some dynamic range compression on spring 90 TOO because I compared the 3/29/90 show hi res download to the CD. I realize now that I didn't decode the CD version using hdcd.exe before analyzing those, so it's possible they used absolutely no dynamic range compression on the CD's, I will need to recheck that. In any case, the sound quality of the worst sounding shows (or any of the others) will not be any different on USB vs CD. The hiss on the '82 show and the multi-song aud patch on the '81 show will sound exactly the same. I'd bet the "different masters" only refers to the fadeouts/overlapping, and maybe peak volume level and that's it. I think it's highly unlikely the masters are any different in any other respect at all. Edit: the double blind testing a friend and I were going to do last weekend or this weekend will have to wait a little while. Highly unexpected success of the cubbies (and a couple of other things) has intervened ;)

KC And The Sunshine (daydream) Band

"... A few drops of Mr. Ed...." The imagery was nauseatingly hilarious. Also, do NOT repeat over and over and over in your mind the following: I cannot live without Spring '90 TOO, I cannot live without Spring '90 TOO, I cannot live without Spring '90 TOO, I cannot live without Spring '90 TOO, I cannot live without Spring '90 TOO, I cannot live without Spring '90 TOO, I cannot live without Spring '90 TOO, I cannot live without Spring '90 TOO, .......

I got mine today in the UK.

I got mine today in the UK. Very nice package. The only negative is that the segues aren't indicated on the packaging, or in the book. When I rip CDs, I join the tracks for all the jams, so I'll have to look up each show elsewhere. But I'm looking forward to listening. I'm going to take this slowly, one show a day. I assume my scroll doesn't say MIRACLE; I guess it would be printed pretty big, but I don't see it anywhere. Has anyone gotten a miracle scroll?

I got the same ticket. They

I got the same ticket. They must have a bunch of those.

TOU Proposal

I promise y'all, this is the LAST time I will acknowledge this problem many of us have called saintstephen1971 (aka thebanditisback on eBay, aka Stephen Gilmore from some hole down under). Let's do this: Simply send a PM to MaryE, our patient moderator, saying something along the lines of: "Despite many, many pleas to stop his commercial posts on this message board, member saintstephen1971 not only has not stopped, he has antagonized everyone who complains. He is blatantly violating the Terms of Use with his advertisements of product purchased on this site expressly for resale at a profit. Many of us find this (and him) offensive. Please moderate his activities on this board if you would be so kind. Thank you." All you have to do is log in, go to your profile, and hit "Write Message". Type "MaryE" in the "To" box and fire away. Thank you to all who take the time to do this. And my apologies to any supporters of saintstephen1971 (if any).

This is the correct link to

This is the correct link to the artwork: https://picasaweb.google.com/106465427611350658328/VaultBoxes02 Caine, you are doing us a great service, and I bow respectfully in thanks.

I got mine today in the UK

Number 5759 has landed on my doorstep,red velvet interior and ticket Oakland Coliseum 28th October, 1991,Backstage passs Eugene, Oregon,22nd August,1993. I intend to start listening from the 7" single,through to the rest in order of ascending year,even the wife is beaming!

Mr. Ed

Kate's post reminded me of a funny convergence of sorts between Mr Ed and the Grateful Dead (beyond the obvious rhyming.). East Troy, WI that is home to the Alpine Valley Music Theatre, on the weekend of 6/28-29/86 hosted both the Grateful Dead AND a Mr. Ed convention. Did you know there were EdHeads? I bet references to "a few drops of Mr. Ed" would be frowned upon.

BOX will arrive Tomorrow in JAPAN.

Hi WorldDeadHeads,nice to meet you.I live in JAPAN. DHL called me today that they deliver me Dead BOX tomorrow morning. DHL said please pay 8% consumption tax. I'm SO Excited about recieving BOX tomorrow. maybe I Can't sleep tonight. Thank you very much Dead Staffs to send me BOX so early. I appciciate it from bottom of my heart.

Portland Boxes

30 Trips has been scanned into Portland as of 12:41am PST. I can practically smell the balsa wood and globs of "Mr. Ed". Now time to get some sleep for a few hours in bed before I move down to the couch/living room for less comfortable daytime sleep. 3rd shift is uncool.. except being home during package deliveries.

Sweden-good news, and bad news

The good news, my box arrived in Sweden this morning.The bad news, I arrived in Istanbul this morning!

Re: Grateful Ed

Besides the funny glue reference (and who doesn't like funny glue references).. I think I used to have a Grateful Ed T Shirt years ago.. but I could be wrong, perhaps I just saw one.

30 Trips around the Sun Box

Wow! Today I received the box (much earlier than I expected it).It's a true wonder. Normally I don't care about the package, but this time I first had to look at this beautiful wooden box in amazement before opening it. The pictures of the four seasons are lovely. And the book is even more beautiful than the pdf file we received on 9/18. What I like especially about this box is the fact that all the CD's have a normal format, so I can put them in my Grateful Dead shelves ordered by date. (With the May 77 box that was not possible). Now there are about 660 Grateful Dead CD's on my shelves, most of them officially released! And finally the content, the heart of the box: All the concerts I had the time to listen to until now are exceptional. This box is a labour of some years and we the fans can do the harvest; thank you David Lemieux and all others involved in this project! So.....da nnn da da, dadahhh ripple in still waters Music is Love Romeo Nathan Bumann (alias Mr. RNB)

I am also in Japan waiting

I am also in Japan waiting for the box! And I have no call from DHL today what is going on with my order?? I chose standard shipping when I ordered it what is your shipping method you chose? Anyway it will arrive soon and I hope we both get the miracle scroll beacause I guess we deserve the most distance buyer award.

Arrived!

My box arrived here one hour, one day before scheduled date. I'll leave my office as soon as possible to finally take possession. I do not know if I'll be able to work this afternoon…

'drops of Mr. Ed'

I wonder if the reason the boxset was priced so high was to offset the stud fee... ...He's no American Pharoah but he's still a celebrity, isn't he?

Trade offers and in search of

looking for 1. Dave's Picks 1 - won't pay more than $75 ,, maybe a $100 ,, Dicks Picks 3 is better anyway Lol 2. Road Trips Denver 1973 - I pay $50 max,, 3. Pure Jerry - both 1978 releases,, Lots to trade, but cash offer will be low.... - Just scored Allman Brothers Band Fillmore East February 1970 recorded by Bear.. Wow !!! What a find !!! Long out of print killer recording from a fantastic venue,, and currently Not for trade,, but lots of other goodness

Boxzilla arrived Germany

comes by DHL half an hour ago and have to pay 155,50 Euro .... Number 4937 ticket 10-28-1991 pass 02-19-1995 undamaged and red velvet inner ... wow

4998/6500

Box arrived in Zagreb,Croatia!

@wilfredTJones... for the list.

My ticket - 5/27/93 General AdmissionMy Backstage pass - 3/22/95 Looks like BertDert has the same combo as me.

mbarilla...

check PM re: Pure Jerry

Lineage/Sound Quality

I'm curious if any of you serious collectors have compared the sound quality of the shows on 30 Trips to the better boards of the shows in circulation. I gave a quick listen to 2/22/69 Vallejo (one of my favorite shows) and compared it against the Charlie Miller board I have and I'm not convinced the 30 Trips one sounds better. There's a nasty quality glitch between Mountains and Dark Star a dn Dark Star sounds a bit muffled, though less hiss. Anyone else?

Charlie Miller

I think Rhino Records or GDP should hire Charlie Miller to work on the Grateful Dead vault for the official releases. The young man with "golden ears". Agree or disagree?

30 T Box Arrived in Finland

Just paid DHL+taxes (207 €). Hope I get my box tomorrow.

Re: Charlie Miller

All my children are named Charlie Miller, even the girls. Goldfish and cat too. Its a bit confusing at times, but the least I could do. He seems to do a better job with the cassette masters, that's for sure. ..but Norman and company have come a long way too, I mean no disrespect.

30 TRIPS - 1980s decade shows

IT's concerning to me that within in the 30 TRIPS box set of the 1980s shows, the 1986 show sounds better than any other show in the 1980s decade other than 1989(which has to sound the best, it was multi-tracked)...I'm not a big fan of the 10/26/89 1st set. Anyway, 1986 is often regarded as the "worst" year played by the band, and this show sounds phenomenally played & recorded.....ima a little suspect of the effort than went into the rest on the 1980s decade on this BOX.....Haven't listened yet to any year before 1979, but I bet they sound perfectly recorded & mastered, jus sayn

90's

Does anyone possibly have 90's shows for sale? I heard they sound great on the stream.....(I've been silent for a while just taking in all the posts but it's hard to take the New Yorker out of me. So forgive me Stephen if you are offended)

Miracle

I got one and no I am not selling it. Wondering how many they sent out? Mailing the scroll back today. Let's see what I get.

It's here...

Box landed this morning, a day earlier than previously advised. It is sitting unopened in another room while I try and get a full day's work done at my desk. How's that for superhuman restraint?

Charlie MIller Time

I've said here before and will say again, there are times I swear Rhino just goes to the archive and downloads a Miller board and releases it as "official". Even the run times are close. In reality, the official ones "most" of the times seem to have a little more "presence", the sound seems a little closer and wider. But I always check against what I've downloaded. I know one of the shows I checked against the streaming stuff sounded a lot better than what I had. Even when some here post about some "great" soundboard on the archive I go check against my copy to see if it's a newer, better copy. But Charlie the man! Anyone remember or have a copy of that youtube cartoon, where the guy is raving to his wife about a new Charlie miller soundboard he just downloaded? When the video of "i married a deadhead" came out I went looking for it and couldn't find.

Box Set

I'm sorry but this is even better than the Europe Box Set, I think out of all the box sets ever released this is as good as it gets, thank you Dave for having this idea, and Rhino for supporting it. And if you don't agree that is cool (no need to start some crazy this box set is better than that one), just my thoughts and I felt it so much I wanted to thank the folks for making it happen. I love it even down to the red velvet, leather bound book, etc....just cool all the way. But looking at all 30 shows lined up in the box, looking through them and picking a year and giving it a spin, that is where the real majic is happening. Downtown

Paris calling

Boxzilla has landed in Paris. Am currently admiring the nifty cardboard box it's sent in. I shall open it at seven bells with a gin and tonic.

Here In Portland...

The boxes are out for delivery. Time to move my sleeping carcass down to the living room couch. Will let you all know what I get and what condition it's in. Hopefully it comes before work.

So why are some getting red

So why are some getting red velvet and others getting blue? I got blue myself. Is it a Bolos / Bozos thing?

Re: Dennis - Charlie Miller Time

Charlie is indeed the man. St. Charlie? This one? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yfy3uJrfVWo "Charlie Miller is releasing new soundboard sources for a number shows from 1972. I need to download these shows from etree as soon as they are seeded." Classic. In I married a deadhead, the wife says she would rather gargle with drano and shove broken glass and needles in her eyes than listen to more shows. In this one it ends with his wife asking for a divorce. Someone needs to do one of these depicting the moment Boxzilla gets delivered on the doorstep.

Out for delivery!!....

....I'm doing the Snoopy dance!!....

..did someone say snoopy dance?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tSxzA1y-zWg while we are recycling old, cartoonish, GD youtube clips. ..sorry, to post old stuff.. but they never seem to get old.

RE: Scroll...........thoughts, reflections, advice?

I probably would not return a 'Golden/Miracle/Special' scroll. Are you kidding me? 2 years from now, if I open a sealed shipping box with a 'Golden/Miracle/Special scroll? Cool Beans! It seems as if someone had the idea to make sure all shipping boxes were opened, as they were never sealed beyond the actual shipping box (Many of the shipping boxes have UPS/USPS writing on the boxes, as well, so between the shipping stickers and writing the shipping boxes won't be as pristine/collectible. So, a Golden/Miracle scroll or a 'made up something' to make sure, and I totally get the idea, less resale for $$$$ is what the powers that be wanted, and rightfully so. I dig that. Gratefully, Scroll #3625

Boxziilla is in Utah

#6314 (I think). I love every square inch of it's blue velvet lined box. Hours of great music waiting for me. I didn't go to the '95 show, though. I was living in Idaho at the time.

OK guys

/mod on We have a designated vending area in the Your Own Storefront thread. http://www.dead.net/forum/your-own-storefront Please advertise your wares in that venue and not in other threads. As for cannibalizing OUR wares and hawking them in our house? Really? Please cut it out, as it's a clear TOS violation. Also please refrain from slinging insults at your fellow Heads, as this is not the venue. Thanks. /mod off

Still nothin'

It's gonna be another looong day.

You Rock MaryE

Thanks MaryE. You rock, and much like my very own mom.. I'm not sure why you put up with us :D

Ziffle

This issues I am hearing on both the 82 and 83 shows will be worse in hi-res, which is a huge disappointment. The kick drum in 83 will most likely be more prominent. That 89 show will sound incredible though. That's the trade off. I think we all have to take into consideration how we are listening to these shows. If we hear, say, the 89 show, then immediately listen to the 82 show - the difference will be obvious, but if you just listen to the 82 show without hearing any other show the it is quite listenable (even with the hiss). It would be very disappointing if they just put 80s shows in the set that they knew weren't up to par quality wise because they knew those shows wouldn't sell on their own. I mean, for 83 especially - they could have done 10/15 or 10/17.

jim in MD

yes that was the one, I came it across it originally when I was downloading everything from the archive. Drove people crazy with email's saying "you gotta hear this miller".

UPS truck broke down....

....3-4 hour delay. Arghhhhh!!!

Song Segues

I have seen some people mention that the song segues are not denoted with the '>' symbol on the disk sleeves. I put those in as well when entering the info in Google Play. I was a little bummed at first but then noticed that they are denoted on the disks themselves. Hope this helps a few Heads out.

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