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    "When we began discussing audio projects to commemorate the 50th anniversary of the Grateful Dead back in 2012, we knew we wanted to do something completely unprecedented. We could think of nothing more exciting or ambitious than a career-spanning overview of the band's live legacy focused on what best tells the story: complete concerts. Our first criterion was the very best live music to represent any given year in the band’s history. We wanted to make sure that there were not only the tent-pole shows that fans have been demanding for decades but also ones that are slightly more under the radar, but equally excellent. For those who listen to the entire box straight through, chronologically, the narrative of the Grateful Dead's live legacy will be seen as second to none in the pantheon of music history." - David Lemieux

    We are more than pleased to announce the Grateful Dead's most ambitious release ever: 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN. Available as both an 80-disc boxed set and a custom lightning-bolt USB drive, the collection includes 30 unreleased live shows, one for each year the band was together from 1966 to 1995, along with one track from their earliest recording sessions in 1965. Packed with over 73 hours of music, both the boxed set and the USB drive will be individually numbered limited editions.

    The 80-disc boxed set is individually numbered and limited to 6,500 copies, a nod to the band’s formation in 1965. Along with the CDs, it also includes a gold-colored 7-inch vinyl single which bookends the band’s career. The A-side is “Caution (Do Not Stop On Tracks)” from the band’s earliest recording session in 1965 with the B-side of the last song the band ever performed together live, “Box Of Rain” recorded during their final encore at Soldier Field in Chicago on July 9, 1995.

    The box also comes with a 288-page book that features an extensive, career-spanning essay written by Nick Meriwether, who oversees the Dead archives at the University of California, Santa Cruz, along with special remembrances of the band submitted by fans. Also included is a scroll that offers a visual representation of how the band’s live repertoire has evolved through the years.

    The USB drive version* will be shaped like a gold lightning bolt with the Grateful Dead 50th anniversary logo engraved on the side. The drive includes all of the music from the collection in both FLAC (96/24) and MP3 formats and is an individually numbered limited edition of 1,000 copies. Digital version of the book also included on USB.

    Shows will NOT be sold individually on CD. This release is sure to sell out quickly so pre-order your copy today and stick around as we will be revealing a mighty fine selection of music, art, and much, much more right here.

    (Looking for a smaller 50th Anniversary commemorative keepsake? September 18th will see the release of a four-CD version of the collection titled 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN: THE DEFINITIVE LIVE STORY 1965-1995. More on that here.)

    ROLLINGSTONE.COM SONG PREMIERE AND EXCLUSIVE DAVID LEMIEUX INTERVIEW
    Head on over to Rollingstone.com for the very first listen of "Morning Dew" 9/18/87 Madison Square Garden, David Fricke's exclusive interview with archivist David Lemieux, and the reveal of 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN's '69 and '84 shows.

    *Helpful hints for using your USB:

    Running the 30 Trips Player / Reader program:
    On Windows – Navigate to the USB drive and double click the PCStart.exe file to run.
    On MacOS – Open the GD 30 Trips drive, and double click the MacStart to run.

    Viewing the digital book:
    You can either view it within the program that comes on the drive, or by opening the PDF directly.

    To view the PDF, open the PDF folder on the drive and the USB_bk_spreads_08-31 file within. Selecting the option within your PDF reading application to view as a “single page” might be preferable to viewing as a continuous document.

    Importing music into iTunes and other library programs:
    When you import the songs from the USB into your library, the information used to identify the track will likely leave them sorted incorrectly. Please use the song list found here to re-number the songs for each show so that they playback in the correct order.
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    Moses GuestLive Stages Get some...it's good. :) ...Over The Car->Under The Stairs...
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    Somebody on the other thread, I forget who, brought up a point about the secondary market, which was basically that Rhino depends on it to ensure they sell x number of copies of each release in a very short amount of time. This guy who wrote the article worked for a record company or something, I wish I could find the post. But it totally makes sense. Basically, Rhino needs to sellout each release in 3 or 4 weeks to not only be profitable, but to extend the life of the series. By making it limited edition, they sellout immediately and actually rely on the secondary market to be there and buy out what the individuals don't buy. It amounts to free distribution for Rhino. They sell off their 16,500 Dave's Picks in a week, and never pay a dime in distribution costs. For Rhino this means more dollars per unit and less units sold to make both make a profit and re-invest in the next release (and making the next profit). So I get it. Rhino is a very unique position, in that they have a rare product with seemingly no end, and this thing called the internet. And in fact, these very message boards are a major source of advertisement. I'm just happy I'm ahead of the curve now. I spent a lot on eBay back-filling my Dead collection. What I would be interested in, is the legalities involved in re-issuing a product that they originally sold as a limited quantity item. Even if legal, I doubt they would do it, out of fear of ruining their current, buy it now, while it's hot sales model, which is undoubtedly working. One thing I feel confident in, is that if Rhino felt that re-releasing FW 69 Complete would be profitable in the long run, they would do it (and perhaps they will). But I imagine it's a tricky balance, as Morning Sun said - never underestimate the turmoil of breaking a promise to the original people who bought it (of whom I am not one - fucker cost me 400 bucks). Plus I'm sure they all have a dozen copies of all of them that they're saving for 10 years from now when they're going for a grand on eBay ;-)
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    Not sure what the exact wording was when they first released it, but some of the music included in the set has been available on the 3 disc compilation.Rhino could produce a set with all 4 FW 69 shows, add 2-11-69 Fillmore East release, change the name and add a disclaimer that would say something like "portions of this set was previously released as Ltd Edition FW box set, etc." Lots of "limited Edition only", and "promo only" music has been re-released that way.
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    if they want to re-release they would definetely need a new mix. I dont think packaging much to do with it
  • Roland Bruynesteyn
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    FWIW, let me echo SpaceBro's (and others) sentiment: I own FW'69, and enjoy it immensely.By all means, re-release it, so that more people can enjoy it. I do not mind scalping, or a secondary market. In general, I don't mind limited editions, bonus discs with first runs etc; companies can run their business as they see fit. But I'm a capitalist through and through: if more people want it, and Rhino can make more money, by all means let's do it. I know that the secondary market, at least in this particular case, exists bcause Rhino said that FW'69 would never be released (in any form?) again. Some people would feel cheated if, after paying a lot (NOT to Rhino though), it was re-released. But surely most Deadheads would want other Deadheads to be able to acquire this set, and there should be some way around it (cheaper packaging or whatever) to get past this?
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    Yes, reissue it as a limited edition of 16,000.$130 each + shipping and sales taxes where applicable. For that $130 you'll get the four shows - 2/27, 2/28, 3/1 & 3/2/1969 in 4 tye-dyed design artwork, thin cardboard type sleeves with a simple booklet with only the song titles, the track times, the songwriters credits and publishers credits with two or three photos, WITHOUT AN ESSAY, all enclosed in a lightweight cardboard case with artwork similar to the original 2005 issue.
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    glad to hear the 69 shrine vinyl release sounds so good. i plan on picking one up soon. as for the 69 box, and other limited releases, i think rhino needs to view their 'investment' in the grateful dead as being holders of something culturally significant. limited edition stuff should be just the initial physical product, but everything should be available via download. as i've said before, they should act like smithsonian/folkways, where nothing they have ever released goes out of print. you can't go to their site and order an original woody guthrie or leadbelly record, those have been out of print forever, but you can download it or order a custom burned cd. there is nothing you can not order. i believe rhino is just waiting for the last 150 usb's to sell, then they will offer all 30 shows via download. as for the 69box, i don't remember their wording, but a physical product probably can't, or shouldn't, be re-released that way, but all 4 shows should be put out via download, if the suits think they can legally do it. if not, lesson learned....
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    Dennis Wilmot, feel free to ramble on, you made some good points in a funny way. it sounds like I may have been one of the same two people seated next to you at shows;)For my two cents, I have the 30 trips box and it wouldn't bother me a bit if they made another production run in the future, with or without all the extras. I didn't buy it as an investment, I purchased it because I wanted to have the music and after missing out on FW69 I knew I would regret not having it more than I would regret spending the money. At some point I would like to pick up FW69, but there is a limit to what I can pay and feel OK about the purchase. I understand that the limited edition model is probably what makes the ongoing releases possible to this extent, so it is what it is, but it seems that they could set it up so that it would be possible to reissue things after some period of time. As far as copying limited edition releases, I guess the band makes their money when the original sale occurs and are unaffected by any subsequent transactions, so there's that.
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    I throw my 2 cents into this, I agree with those that say a release of limited edition stuff as maybe a digital download is just fine with me. As always if price is the limiting factor I can not believe you can't find someone to make you a copy. Some say "oh that's illegal", sounds like corporate lawyer talk to me. I agree you shouldn't be knocking out 1,000 copies of something and selling them at the local flea market, but to slip a buddy a copy, fuck no. I remember when people didn't even think twice about making a cassette copy for a friend. Of course the "industry" hated that, they even tried to get a "tax" on blank tapes to cover the "losses" they were suffering. What hogwash! The record companies seem to be doing fine! Ebay prices will disappear or come down if people stop buying them, just like tickets for sporting events (which sports fan seem to believe are way out of whack). Remember when FM first took off and stations would play a perfect album side, even told you when to start your tape. I'm sorry if the record industry makes a product that is easy to copy. Why didn't they just keep producing records? You couldn't copy them as easily as cd. Because they wanted to squeeze out the free music of radio, cd's people would buy more of because you could take them in your car. Did the industry ever return money for those shit 8 tracks that they sold? Or even the shit cassettes they sold? Those store bought tapes NEVER lasted long, but a good maxell made at home lasted forever? I still have cassettes I made from 1980 that play just fine. But the few store bought ones I got the cases always warped in the heat.I think I can most assuredly say that if you could shove a new caddy into a port of the computer and have it shit out a new caddy, everyone would have a new caddy and be saying fuck GM. (probably a lot of people already saying that) You don't see anyone making "illegal" copies of books and you could zerox a whole book. I'm surprise the corporate lawyers haven't tried to shut down public libraries, since they allow people to listen, read and view all copyright material without paying any fee to the owner of the copy right material. There was a point when Mickey Mouse was about to enter the public domain and Disney just couldn't let that happen, so they had congressman Sony Bono push thru a revision of the copyright laws that allowed them to keep the copyright. (see - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copyright_Term_Extension_Act ) Technically if you owned a bar, you couldn't play cd's you own there without a fee being paid to industry. CD's YOU OWN! Can you imagine if you bought a repair guide for a car you owned and you got a second car of the same make and being told you couldn't use that manual to fix the second car, that the use of the manual was only for the first car. You have that same thing with software you buy, you buy the package but can't use it where ever you want, only once (maybe 3 times for some) Sorry I've rambled a bit, but corporations piss me off. They want risk socialize and profits privatized. They want to be citizens with no one responsible for jail time. Fuck them! Record profits and the world still fights for crumbs. On the illegal front, I get a chuckle out of this. I thought it was illegal to bring "drugs" into shows or buy and sell them. Oh, I forgot nobody who went to dead shows did drugs. Like nobody in England watches Doctor Who. The show has been on for 50 years and nobody admits they watch it! Just like back in the .net days, nobody on net.dead did drugs! I must have always got seated next to the same other 2 people who did :-) Once again sorry for the excessive rambling.
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    I am fully supportive of a re-release of the FW69 box. The whole reason I have the info that I have is that (being the anal retentive completist that I am) I emailed David Lemieux to ask why in the hell the box set hadn't been reissued. Any deadhead that has looked at eBay in the last 5 years can see that this box is in absurdly high demand. I hate the idea of limited releases and find it absurd that they would limit anything. The only thing that does is drive up the price on secondary markets (just look at the 30 trips box on eBay).
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"When we began discussing audio projects to commemorate the 50th anniversary of the Grateful Dead back in 2012, we knew we wanted to do something completely unprecedented. We could think of nothing more exciting or ambitious than a career-spanning overview of the band's live legacy focused on what best tells the story: complete concerts. Our first criterion was the very best live music to represent any given year in the band’s history. We wanted to make sure that there were not only the tent-pole shows that fans have been demanding for decades but also ones that are slightly more under the radar, but equally excellent. For those who listen to the entire box straight through, chronologically, the narrative of the Grateful Dead's live legacy will be seen as second to none in the pantheon of music history." - David Lemieux

We are more than pleased to announce the Grateful Dead's most ambitious release ever: 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN. Available as both an 80-disc boxed set and a custom lightning-bolt USB drive, the collection includes 30 unreleased live shows, one for each year the band was together from 1966 to 1995, along with one track from their earliest recording sessions in 1965. Packed with over 73 hours of music, both the boxed set and the USB drive will be individually numbered limited editions.

The 80-disc boxed set is individually numbered and limited to 6,500 copies, a nod to the band’s formation in 1965. Along with the CDs, it also includes a gold-colored 7-inch vinyl single which bookends the band’s career. The A-side is “Caution (Do Not Stop On Tracks)” from the band’s earliest recording session in 1965 with the B-side of the last song the band ever performed together live, “Box Of Rain” recorded during their final encore at Soldier Field in Chicago on July 9, 1995.

The box also comes with a 288-page book that features an extensive, career-spanning essay written by Nick Meriwether, who oversees the Dead archives at the University of California, Santa Cruz, along with special remembrances of the band submitted by fans. Also included is a scroll that offers a visual representation of how the band’s live repertoire has evolved through the years.

The USB drive version* will be shaped like a gold lightning bolt with the Grateful Dead 50th anniversary logo engraved on the side. The drive includes all of the music from the collection in both FLAC (96/24) and MP3 formats and is an individually numbered limited edition of 1,000 copies. Digital version of the book also included on USB.

Shows will NOT be sold individually on CD. This release is sure to sell out quickly so pre-order your copy today and stick around as we will be revealing a mighty fine selection of music, art, and much, much more right here.

(Looking for a smaller 50th Anniversary commemorative keepsake? September 18th will see the release of a four-CD version of the collection titled 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN: THE DEFINITIVE LIVE STORY 1965-1995. More on that here.)

ROLLINGSTONE.COM SONG PREMIERE AND EXCLUSIVE DAVID LEMIEUX INTERVIEW
Head on over to Rollingstone.com for the very first listen of "Morning Dew" 9/18/87 Madison Square Garden, David Fricke's exclusive interview with archivist David Lemieux, and the reveal of 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN's '69 and '84 shows.

*Helpful hints for using your USB:

Running the 30 Trips Player / Reader program:
On Windows – Navigate to the USB drive and double click the PCStart.exe file to run.
On MacOS – Open the GD 30 Trips drive, and double click the MacStart to run.

Viewing the digital book:
You can either view it within the program that comes on the drive, or by opening the PDF directly.

To view the PDF, open the PDF folder on the drive and the USB_bk_spreads_08-31 file within. Selecting the option within your PDF reading application to view as a “single page” might be preferable to viewing as a continuous document.

Importing music into iTunes and other library programs:
When you import the songs from the USB into your library, the information used to identify the track will likely leave them sorted incorrectly. Please use the song list found here to re-number the songs for each show so that they playback in the correct order.
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lowspark - have fun man - do you work? just curious, since you said you were moving your sleeping carcass. I would hope you do not, and that you are living a care free life of abandon, and that it's a mild inconvenience to even be up at this hour, an inconvenience that is only justified by the purpose of your errand.... vguy - wow. you're 3 layers deep in bad luck, if you count the initial box set delay as layer 1.
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...while listening to the '84 show! Just awesome. So far I've listened to '67, '68, '69, '75, '84 and now the '82 show. The '82 show is good, but the quality of the recording itself is a head scratcher for a choice in this box, considering that the quality of recordings from the Greek run from this same year that circulate which sound solid and clean. Perhaps those are being saved for another release or aren't in the vault. The sound of the '82 show does improve somewhat by the time they get to Ramble on Rose. A follow-up of my last post- Putting officially released music up for free downloading online without permission, especially when the product is still available to buy is a bad move...period. Don't do it, don't encourage it. It's stealing from the band. It's one thing to burn copies for your friends, it's another thing to put it out there for everybody to get it in a way that directly hurts sales. It's a brazen act of piracy. If tptb choose or not to act on it, it is their business.
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I have the second set of 10/12/84 on cassette and it received much play back in the day. It has one of my most favorite Sailor>Saints. I am really looking forward to finally hearing the first set for the first time.
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Mine is out for delivery as well, before 8pm tonight........
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...third shift. And UPS just dropped my package!!! P.S. They did actually have me sign for it. I didn't think they were doing that. Anyway... time to open it. Will report back shortly!
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Nice to hear that , by now you shall be a happy Head
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thanx for letting me know your Boxzilla status and enjoy.....a glass of Bordeaux in France , Grappa in Italy , Jenever in the Netherlands...
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We have been hearing quite a lot about the hiss 'problem' on the 1982 show. And there is hiss. But we are losing our sense of proportion, I think. As alluded to by sfrank115 below, if you are listening to these shows as a comparison of how each recording sounds, you are missing something. In the case of Manor Downs 1982, you may be missing that this is an absolutely fabulous performance. That show was my third listen from the set so far. Three at bats. One walk, a base hit, and a home run. I started out, as I promised myself, with the 1986 show: The Cal Expo show from 5/3/86 was not entirely the hidden gem that I hoped it would be, but it has a number of unique and compelling segments. The first set didn't really do much for me, apart from a Promised Land that comes out of Beat It On Down The Line and maintains a BIOTDL undertow throughout, which seems to throw Bobby a bit on the vocals, but provides a really fun listen. The second set has a hot Scarlet and a not-so-thrilling Fire, but the Drums>Space is really great. And the post-drums O1>Comes A Time just cannot be argued with. After that, I chose to hit the Augusta 1984 show. I could probably listen to this second set every day for the next month and not grow bored with it. A gem. At that point I was really looking to this board to get an idea what I'd check out next. Like a lot of people, I bet, I am actually refraining from listening to the shows that I'm sure in advance are going to be my faves. So I've been kind of ignoring the love for 1975 and all of the '60s shows. That's my meat and potatoes too. But everyone was mentioning 1982's sound issues. So what the heck, I'm very unschooled in 80s Dead -- why not hear that one and get a probable disappointment out of the way? Bzzzzzzt! WRONG! Here we have a really, truly, great show. Not scattered great songs, or a great second set, but a straight-out-the gate romping full show. Not giving highlights, but in my mind this bears comparison with Dick's Picks 6 from 1983. A show that was unjustly maligned at the time of release for some of the same reasons as this one: sound quality, Garcia's vocals. Yawn. Missing the point. Like that show, this one has a very hot first set, as song to song the energy is just always there. Like that show, the second set setlist is almost cliched pre-drums (Scar>Fire, Est>Eyes?) and has stereotypical "big" post-drums songs. Can it be as hot as the setlist suggests? YES, IT CAN. Do yourself a favor... I think there may indeed be something to the speculation that some of these shows "couldn't" be released as Dave's Picks separately from this box: they have too many issues. Would we really stand still for a DaP that had all that hiss in it, or shows that had such significant AUD patches? Possibly not. But I don't think that means that we are having inferior product foisted upon us. Not all. This is a piece of real luck that we are getting these shows that otherwise would languish in the vault. (NB: The preceding is the opinion of one head. Take it for what is worth. Your mileage may vary, even though I am completely correct in all particulars.)
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I gave my steeam away and avoided the unboxing video. Box arrived last Tuesday. Shipping notice arrived last Thursday. I came in off the road Friday night. Box was in living room. For two days I looked at it while running King Crimson's Discipline through my head. Recently moved so I had to set up my stereo first. Took my time opening the box on Sunday and when it was fully revealed it was so beautiful it brought a tear to my eye. Red felt and the pass is from The Spectrum in Philadelphia, my hometown venue. Listened to 67, 76, 89 and 91 so far. All good. Thanks Dave, dead.net and Rhino. This box is one for the ages.
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I am channeling good travel juju to the Rockies and desert.. hopefully jrf and vguy get their box today. ..and purpleeric, lets not forget Amsterdam.. and I guess a fresh pint in the UK.
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No MiracleBlue Velvet Ticket: Oct 30, 1991 Oakland Pass: June 9, 1993 Auburn Hills The box arrived intact. One VERY minor imperfection where lid/hinge/box meet on the back. All discs are accounted for. The record seems fine. Overall, I think I am very pleased with the box and feel very lucky to not have any serious defects, though I've not actually listened to or ripped any discs yet to know if they are definitely fine. I do agree to an extent with the complaints about the disc sleeves. I felt like I was playing "operation" while gingerly pulling each of them out to confirm they were all in order. The shows with three discs especially.. getting that disc 2 out of the middle is a pain. I already forgot the username (country something-or-other), but I appreciate the King Crimson reference... I got it immediately and it's very appropriate for this situation. Has anyone tried extracting the paper sleeve the record rests in from the lid? I didn't want to tempt fate and damage something, but I am definitely curious whether that sleeve has anything printed on it. Maybe if I had some tweezers...
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Charlie does a great job and deserves much credit from the trading community. As his name got out he got amazing access to, and more importantly permission to share, tapes formerly only available to "special friends" and not for public distribution. If you look at the lineages, most are DATs of what's in the Vault or what Dick Latvala had copies of, those have a reel or cassette in the lineage. Many tapes Dick got were from Pat Lee, who's reels are starting to be digitized and worth looking for. It's no surprise they sound similar, they are very close to the master reel in the Vault. Did you ever notice's Dick's notes are for his tapes, not the vault copies? Still ripping the box, i'm up to 1988 and should finish tonight. Very nice package, if your into that sort of thing.
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Superb! Gorgeous ! Very nice job !My box has the number 5313. Ticket: October 28, 1991. Pass: March 23, 1995. Everything seems in good condition, the drawings and the colors are beautiful, red velvet is very nice, the book also. Tomorrow night, I'll start listening chronological. I am happy !
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Box in good shape and blue velvet. So far listened to 66 and 67 going strong. Ticket for 10-27-91 Oakland, a show I was at and Pass 6-8-93 Auburn Hills. Burned the 60's and so far so good. I am pleased with the box and all of the content. Got it about an hour before The New Mastersounds show last night and was distracted through the whole show, couldn't wait to get home to listen to CD's. But The New Mastersounds were great by the way if they hit your town.
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Wow someone said this one is better than the Europe 72 box set...I guess it could be since there's more different songs and the age of shows doesn't matter as they're all good quality sounding...I know someone mentioned there was a splice somewhere but i'll take it if it means getting shows from 1965-1970...and anywhere else shows are low in amounts...the box itself is like a work of art...the books is expansive it's not something to be taken lightly or as Truman capote used to say nothing substantial to read as it's very substantial to read.
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Number 1477 Blue Velvet arrived in western Mass. (Forgot the ticket and pass dates, will post later). Busy week so haven't had time to check discs, etc, but the box looks good. Did get to listen to most of disc one of 11/10/67 last night. That is one of the greatest things I've every laid ears upon. This was just SIX WEEKS after Mickey joined. I think any discussion of the drawbacks to his rejoining the band in 75 need to also consider his huge positive impact on the beast that was late '67 Dead. In recent weeks I've been in one of those rare "non-Dead" modes, kind of bummed that it coincided with Boxzilla arriving. But then I listened to the Shrine 67. The passion is back!!! I did not Stream Cheat (except for one set of the 1980 show), I'm glad to say. Dantian - brother! Believe it or not I have not listened to Lindley yet.... needs to be right time, quiet house, etc. Tonight I finish 67, heck I may start it over. But I'll let you know what I think of the sound of Lindley - very happy to hear you approve! Think I'll head to Manor Downs after that, after all the chatter about it. Rrot awesome post man...
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Beautiful! # 2902. Ticket: 10/30/91. Backstage pass: 6/8/93. Is there anything behind the partition behind the scroll?
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Excellent recording, awesome show. I was pleased by the first note of this show. Top notch pick. Certainly better audio quality than Dicks Picks #6.
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Check your PM
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The 2nd set sounds like a better recording to me than the 1st set....that Scarlet>Fire is massive. I can't wait for the DP#17 announcement w/2016 DAVES PICKS subscription info(next week hopefully), OBVIOUSLY it's time for an early 80's Daves Picks release.
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We buy, steal, borrow, and lend the music. I bet 90%-plus of us engage in each of these activities. Each of us KNOW it is wrong to steal anything. And we know, I think, that we should buy this great music when we can afford it. But unauthorized distributing via the web, and distributing for profit is anti-Dead, anti-community. Distribution is for the band and for Rhino, that's their business model which is so great for us as fans and we should support it and oppose that which weakens their model. And it's nobody's job, or obligation, or right to distribute copyrighted works freely to people who can't afford copyrighted works or refuse to buy copyrighted works.
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You really think the 83 show sounds better than DP6? Do you think it sounds better than some charlie miller shows from the same month? BTW - I know i've only been focusing on two shows out of 30. I too love the 84 and 85 show. Haven't had a chance to dig into any of the Keith stuff yet - but the 79 show is freakin amazing. I mean, i love the little Jerry/Brent action at the end of Franklin's Tower.
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Got this message on the 8th: "You will receive shipment confirmation email with a tracking number separately, once your order has left the warehouse." So far, no shipping confirmation and I just checked my order status to find I'm still "Backordered" with estimated shipping date 31st October. So much for getting my Miracle Scroll in Australia in time for the 16th November cut-off. Maintain the patience....
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Got this message on the 8th: "You will receive shipment confirmation email with a tracking number separately, once your order has left the warehouse." So far, no shipping confirmation and I just checked my order status to find I'm still "Backordered" with estimated shipping date 31st October. So much for getting my Miracle Scroll in Australia in time for the 16th November cut-off. Maintain the patience....
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UPS states it went out for delivery at 6:30 this morning. Someone's messing with me!!!!
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I'm only on the 1970 show (taking my time)The Candyman on this show really has a cool groove, love it! Great job Dave&CO.
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I am willing to trade: ticket= 01/08/1994 Oakland Coliseum Arena,CA backstage= 03/23/95 Coliseum Arena Charlotte, NC email please: davidrichards74@gmail.com Hopefully I could get one I was at.....hit quite a few in the 90's Traded !! thanks Zuck
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Everybody gettin his or her 30 trips boxset and all these comments comin up, that's really like Christmas Day. Luckily I'm not workin this week so I got all the time to listen to the music. At the same time readin in the book stories about how much the Dead affected some lifes, that's hearttouching and it seems that stars are falling from the sky (just like Xmas!) Like Mickey Hart said this summer: The feeling we have here - remember it, take it home and do some good with it. The Grateful Dead transport free will, free love - and that's far from promiscuity. I declared myself being a hippie when I was sixteen and there were no other hippies around me, I just got the feelin from over the big pond, meaning it swapped over the ocean from Frisco to Switzerland. Yeah!Enjoy and love the one you're with! :-)Romeo Nathan
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I am listening in order and this show rocked me! Love the Jam > The Other One. Really hot. This box contains many shows that I have heard about here on this board, but that I have never heard before. Manor Downs, Lindley Meadows, etc. I never heard any mention of this Winterland show before though and it just blew me away. I am still in recovery as I type this! Rock on
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Box arrived in Eugene today. Blue velvet, scroll #3444, ticket is 10/27/91 Oakland Coliseum, pass is 6/8/93 Palace of Auburn Hills. Currently listening to 7/3/66. With a big ol' shit-eating grin on my face. This is it. These tickets and passes are reproductions, right? The wording in the email from the Dead ("an original Grateful Dead concert ticket and backstage pass from the UCSC Grateful Dead Archives") made it sound like they were actual items from back in the day. But they're in far too pristine a condition for that - even if they'd been sitting in unopened boxes for 24 years they wouldn't look this fresh, right? Not that I'm complaining. In real life my work brings me in close enough contact with museums and archives to really value the work they do, and I don't *want* the Dead's archive dispersed like this. I want it all safe there in Santa Cruz. Reproductions are enough for me!
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....will open soon. Still at work. Works sucks....
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#2056 found its new permanent home at 20.00 hours Dutch time, whatever it is elsewhere. No damage, ticket October 30, 1991, bsp February 25, no miracle scroll , blue velvet interior and the best part: I did not have to pay € 183 / $ 208 that other people in the Netherlands had to pay. I may get a bill from DHL ultimately; perhaps I escaped it temporarily because I gave my 'VAT number', indicating I'm a company (I am). But I guess I'm safe. Looks and feels wonderful. Due to social commitments, no time to even check if all cd's are accounted for and play correctly. At least all back labels of the cd's are accounted for, and no doubles. Got some testing to do tomorrow. This truly is an amazing time to be a deadhead!
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Looks amazing...just about to dig in. We'll be drinking a pint of ale in England!
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To my ears, the '83 30 Trips choice sounds a little crisper than DP6. Probably a matter of modern mastering technology. The second disc of DP6 is one of my favorites from the whole Dicks Picks series, not than any of them are bad. Charlie Miller has done an exemplary job bringing new life to many tapes. I went in starting in order, but couldn't resist the calling to listen to some Brent.
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I never received any shipping notices either but my box Has left Sydney this morning headed to Adelaide. I can tell you how to track your order if you would like. More than likely you will receive your box today or tomorrow.
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For the Spring 90 boxes they specifically said repros and they used obvious faux tears on the tickets. Since these were last minute addins because of the delay, they had no time to make new repros, these are obviously not the same as the ones from the 90 boxes, they made no special spot in the box to hold them, AND, when they go out of the way to specify ORIGINALS that is exactly what I believe they are. You don't think things kept in their archives are kept in pristine condition? The dead themselves might never have gone to any trouble in that regard, but you can bet than any and all people who have been given the responsibility to look after these materials, especially once the archived materials were bequeathed to UCSC, are treating them as if they should be displayable in their current condition 100 years from now. You think they're lying?. Does that make any sense? Why only one ticket and pass then? Why only late 80's and 90's? Why state originals if they're not. They're originals.
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Hey Gratefulbrit, Just got mine, like you got a pint of Doombar while checking this lot out, superb presentation, wonderful box, I thought liking the Dead was a singular activity here in the South West UK, never thought I'd find another Brit with such good taste, are we the only two?
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will see the light of day; (1) too good quality (2) too good music and (3) the modern Greek is due for a box (4) David even answered my email when I suggested this to him earlier this year
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As my copy will have one of the magic scrolls, I'm a bit worried that I won't have it by 16 November. GDM still indicates 31 October shipping and Downunder usually takes at least a fortnight. Am a but surprised that the shipping seems so random. From the posts many in the USA already have theirs (fair enough) while foreign orders not even shipped.It will be special when it gets here and thinking of having an opening gathering of local Dead Heads. As an aside we went to a John McLaughlin concert last weekend and at the merch signing after the show he spoke highly of Jerry and still misses him. Great show
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will see the light of day; (1) too good quality (2) too good music and (3) the modern Greek is due for a box (4) David even answered my email when I suggested this to him earlier this year
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Easy there, I wasn't accusing anybody of lying. I was just raising what was intended to be a legitimate question. If you're connected with the organization, and are offended, I apologize. I don't remember what the marketing was for the 1990 box. The ticket stubs and passes in my copy of that box (and the Warlocks box) don't *say* reproduction anywhere. Meanwhile the ticket and pass in my copy of 30 Trips are in exactly the same pristine condition as the repros in those earlier boxes. That's what had me wondering. I'm sure UCSC keeps the collection with all due care, but it would surprise me if things like tickets and passes had been kept in ideal archival condition for the first few years after they were made, back in the early '90s or whenever. Inks fade, paper dries out, etc. Archives like UCSC's exist precisely because it's expensive and time-consuming to prevent those changes from occurring, and most people and organizations aren't equipped to do it. Actually this is something I'm really curious about. If these *are* originals, then I'd love to know about their provenance. This must mean that there were, what, 6500 pristine original tickets and 6500 like-new backstage passes in the UCSC archives that the archivists felt comfortable deaccessioning. Tickets that bear numbers, mind you: mine is Gen Adm 5155 for Oakland Coliseum 10/27/91. Did GDTS print up duplicates of all the tickets they issued and keep them in an archive? Or was Gen Adm 5155 just randomly left unsold, and then kept in pristine condition? You do make a good point about the time involved. These were thrown in as last-minute bonuses to make up for the delay, and that wouldn't have left much time to print up reproductions.
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sent you a PM (^-^)/
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Boxes just arrived at the doorstep in Sydney..... To everyone who wanted individual shows - posting to you all Saturday. Peace...
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No Kevin, there are quite a few of us this side of the pond. I had to call DHL to enquire about my delivery - it's sitting in a depot near the East Midlands Airport waiting for me to cough up 88 quid! Still, it should keep me busy for a while!
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Well,it's official.My secondary market purchase is going to beat the box here.If it ever ships.At least I'll be able to listen to one show. ...Oh yeah,and $700 worth of streaming,awesome. P.S.-At first I was kidding,but if it's easier & less confusing for your people,I'll come pick it up. Seriously
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#943 has landed in Lancaster,P.A. and how fun! Ticket: 10-27-1991 Pass: 5-23-1993 The plan was to go chronologically 66'- 95' but once i opened the chess all i could do was smile...for a while...and the next thing i know 10-12-84' Augusta, ME summoned. Any pretense of a chronological, scientific approach to this sonic universe has since melted away. Winter is approaching soon enough and then a more comprehensive chronological study will be in order. Thank you David Lemieux and all who are a part of making this happen.
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I admit, I'm disappointed. I hoped you were living my dream, which would be sleeping in and lazing about without a job, and a bank account full of money. It seems you're one of us after all.
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I 'm on Big Boss Man from the 1971 show. I tell ya, this is some cool stuff. Between the other box/releases, it's just damn cool....and fun to be a Dead fan!!
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3/18/71 makes for a sweet companion for the Ladies And Gentleman 4 cd wonder
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