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"When we began discussing audio projects to commemorate the 50th anniversary of the Grateful Dead back in 2012, we knew we wanted to do something completely unprecedented. We could think of nothing more exciting or ambitious than a career-spanning overview of the band's live legacy focused on what best tells the story: complete concerts. Our first criterion was the very best live music to represent any given year in the band’s history. We wanted to make sure that there were not only the tent-pole shows that fans have been demanding for decades but also ones that are slightly more under the radar, but equally excellent. For those who listen to the entire box straight through, chronologically, the narrative of the Grateful Dead's live legacy will be seen as second to none in the pantheon of music history." - David Lemieux

We are more than pleased to announce the Grateful Dead's most ambitious release ever: 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN. Available as both an 80-disc boxed set and a custom lightning-bolt USB drive, the collection includes 30 unreleased live shows, one for each year the band was together from 1966 to 1995, along with one track from their earliest recording sessions in 1965. Packed with over 73 hours of music, both the boxed set and the USB drive will be individually numbered limited editions.

The 80-disc boxed set is individually numbered and limited to 6,500 copies, a nod to the band’s formation in 1965. Along with the CDs, it also includes a gold-colored 7-inch vinyl single which bookends the band’s career. The A-side is “Caution (Do Not Stop On Tracks)” from the band’s earliest recording session in 1965 with the B-side of the last song the band ever performed together live, “Box Of Rain” recorded during their final encore at Soldier Field in Chicago on July 9, 1995.

The box also comes with a 288-page book that features an extensive, career-spanning essay written by Nick Meriwether, who oversees the Dead archives at the University of California, Santa Cruz, along with special remembrances of the band submitted by fans. Also included is a scroll that offers a visual representation of how the band’s live repertoire has evolved through the years.

The USB drive version* will be shaped like a gold lightning bolt with the Grateful Dead 50th anniversary logo engraved on the side. The drive includes all of the music from the collection in both FLAC (96/24) and MP3 formats and is an individually numbered limited edition of 1,000 copies. Digital version of the book also included on USB.

Shows will NOT be sold individually on CD. This release is sure to sell out quickly so pre-order your copy today and stick around as we will be revealing a mighty fine selection of music, art, and much, much more right here.

(Looking for a smaller 50th Anniversary commemorative keepsake? September 18th will see the release of a four-CD version of the collection titled 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN: THE DEFINITIVE LIVE STORY 1965-1995. More on that here.)

ROLLINGSTONE.COM SONG PREMIERE AND EXCLUSIVE DAVID LEMIEUX INTERVIEW
Head on over to Rollingstone.com for the very first listen of "Morning Dew" 9/18/87 Madison Square Garden, David Fricke's exclusive interview with archivist David Lemieux, and the reveal of 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN's '69 and '84 shows.

*Helpful hints for using your USB:

Running the 30 Trips Player / Reader program:
On Windows – Navigate to the USB drive and double click the PCStart.exe file to run.
On MacOS – Open the GD 30 Trips drive, and double click the MacStart to run.

Viewing the digital book:
You can either view it within the program that comes on the drive, or by opening the PDF directly.

To view the PDF, open the PDF folder on the drive and the USB_bk_spreads_08-31 file within. Selecting the option within your PDF reading application to view as a “single page” might be preferable to viewing as a continuous document.

Importing music into iTunes and other library programs:
When you import the songs from the USB into your library, the information used to identify the track will likely leave them sorted incorrectly. Please use the song list found here to re-number the songs for each show so that they playback in the correct order.
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September 12, 2015 - 11:38am

#4651

wurm79

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RE Watchya gonna listen to first?

Dig the post born cross-eyed. Here's the shows I'm probably going to dive into first. 1) 10/21/83 Worcester, MA - This show is appealing to me since it's a Brent Bday show, and I've never heard this show yet as well. It sounds like it could be a hot one, since it follows the Fall 83' Hartford run. 2) 6/24/85 Cincinnati, OH - Another mid-80's show that I haven't touched base with yet. Should be good since it's June 85' show. 3) 9/18/74 Dijon, France - Wall Of Sound.. I'm ready for some Phil bombs!! 4) 11/28/80 Lakeland, FL - Big fan of anything Fall 80'. This is the only November 80 show that I haven't heard yet.. Looks really good. 5) 3/18/71 St. Louis, MO - Really hot 71 show. It'll be nice to hear a official remastered version of this..
September 12, 2015 - 11:18am

#4652

bohlint

Joined:
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Re: Sound quality

Alvarhanso, thank you for your response. Would you or anyone out there mind explaining what determines if a show is mixed from a 2 track, 16 track, 24 track, ect. If 16 track was available for shows as far back as 69 shouldn't it be available for at least some of the other releases of lesser sound quality? For example, why was a 2 track mixed used for Spring 90 1, and a 24 track mix used for Spring 90 2 (The Other One Too) when all the shows were from the same tour. It seems like the 24 track mix should have been available for both boxes. And for the DaP's and RT's were 16 track mixes not available for some reason or did they opt not to use that method? Thanks again just trying to get a good grasp of this process!
September 12, 2015 - 11:11am

#4653

SPACEBROTHER

Joined:
June 4, 2007

Resale

Wishing for others misfortune? No. Expressing something about how it would make perfect sense to wait to have product in hand before committing to a resale by a specific date, only to have delays and before a proper inspection of the product to assure quality is the point I made. If I were a buyer who already paid money for a product in a second hand market, expecting it to arrive by a certain time, and expecting it to be exactly as described is what I would hope a seller would take into consideration. I would find late shipping and potential inferior product far more disturbing as a buyer than some friendly advice to potential sellers. Oh well. Some lessons are learned through trials and tribulations, and some salivate at creating imaginary conflict.
September 12, 2015 - 10:33am

#4654

unkle sam

Joined:
October 3, 2008

The Wait

Some great comments on this board about the postponement of shipping. Could be somebody dropped the ball, created a logjam, slacked off or procrastinated, and now we have this holding pattern of doubt and anger. It's a bit funny, the veracity of this setback creates a lot of downtime for some who were anticipating spending some quality time with the sounds. It could have been worse, could have been discontinued, or a filibuster could have been used to stop the release, or put into a permanent suspension, stalled in a endless holding pattern or lost in a long cooling off period. The setback has put to test the resolve of deadheads and this cunctation will pass. The sales pitch was "don't delay" order yours now, get it before it's too late, due to ship...the lag is hard to handle, but we will survive this jam. Others commented that they would cancel their order, or that the ship date is after the date that you can dispute a charge on your credit card. Others are afraid that the sound will suck, that it will be sloppy productions and bad or less than stellar mastering. Relax, why worry, it will all be ok, I worried once so much I was worrying why I wasn't worrying anymore. Anyone out there remember the Europe '72 box? I had 10 bad discs in that one, with several ripped cd cases made of cardboard, it took over a year, but it was all settled and all was replaced or refunded. I don't think dead-net or rhino is out to rip us off and the delay is better than the alternative - a sub par product that we all will complain about, or worse yet, return for a full refund. Could you imagine all these boxes coming back to rhino for a refund, that could be funny, as long as you didn't work there and have to deal with it. By and By, we will survive.
September 12, 2015 - 10:18am

#4655

alvarhanso

Joined:
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sound quality

Spring '90 TOO and Europe '72 have the best sound quality, because they are from multitrack masters. The first Spring '90 set was mixed from a 2 track mix, the second was culled from a new mix of the 24 track masters. Europe '72 was remixed from the 16 track masters (as was Fillmore West '69), so Spring '90 TOO, Europe '72, and FW '69 ought to sound the best. Dave's Picks and Road Trips as well as Dick's Picks are from 2 track masters, so there are definite limitations in how much Jeffrey Norman can change the mix, such as to lower Donna, or bring up Bob. By using individual tracks, he can give you the feeling of being onstage as with Spring '90 TOO, or inside the Fillmore. 10/26/89 is one of the shows in 30 Trips that comes from a multitrack master, I think it was on a 16 track. Some people complain about the sound on the Formerly the Warlocks box, which also came from a 16 track source. I think it sounds good, but not great. I think the 30 Trips set will have a range of sound quality, and would expect 10/26/89 to be the best sounding. Hopefully they used multitrack masters on other later shows as well. As to rushing, I think they gave Mr. Norman a breather with the last Dave's Picks and chose one that had already been readied for release as Dave said the May '77 box was almost an April '78 mini-box of 4/21-24/78. I would think, they put the time and effort into getting the sound quality to be as high as they could. And I'll be listening in order from '66 to '95, so I can hear the evolution of the band's sound in an easy to discern and digest manner.
September 12, 2015 - 9:53am

#4656

Born Cross Eye…

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Watchya gonna listen to first?

When reviewing the list of shows that are included in this release as they were revealed in June, a few shows came to mind that I wanted to hear first.1. 11/10/67 I had a bootleg CD sometime ago and it seemed to have a muddy sound, but great performance. I hope the official release cleans up the sound. 2. 10/27/79 I still have a sbd cd-rs of this show, I hope this official release improves the sound, also it's my birthday. 3. 10/27/90 I only streamed this show via Sennheiser HD480 headphones. again it's a b'day show! 4. 10/01/94 Sometimes ya just gotta get into 1994. 5. 02/21/95 sure beats those Chicago shows in July (of '95), in my opinion. 6. the 1968 thru 1977 shows - my favorites. Later on, I decided to play everything in order of year, similar to I have done with Europe 72 for the last five years.
September 12, 2015 - 9:01am

#4657

lgreen

Joined:
December 20, 2007

Sound Quality

I hope I am wrong but I fear the mastering has been very rushed indeed... if you go back and play the 'listening parties' on this site [as well as other sites like uncut] you will hear tracks - especially the 80s which are significantly below what we have grown used to with DPicks - obviously most of this is because the 80s soundboards are either cassette masters or very early digital tapes but the work done on DaveP 8 and DickP 32 show with time and care in the mixing you can overcome a lot of the drawbacks. None of the samples offered so far for 79 to 88 suggest this work has been done... even the 89 sample [from a multi-track] sounds 'unmixed' in that Brent's voice and keyboard dominate in a way that they addressed in Spring 90 1&2 I really do hope that I am wrong but I fear this will be a very expensive lost opportunity and I say this having ordered my set on the first date and acknowledging I am still very excited in anticipation... Perhaps we should have all gone for the USB as the high-res files for Spring 90 1 sound stunning through even a mid level portable player
September 12, 2015 - 8:52am

#4658

Ziffle

Joined:
July 21, 2015

RE: Packaging is a big part

If you copy the USB to a hard drive, transcoding to Apple Lossless at 44.1/16 bits, put the whole lot in iTunes. You can burn the CD's from iTunes easily. But they will NOT be HDCD encoded! Just ordinary CD quality if you want something better than the 320 mp3's included for listening in the car. On a Mac this can be accomplished easily as a batch operation using freeware XLD by setting the following preferences in XLD: In the "General" preference, set output format to Apple Lossless, click the option button, and set "Sample Rate" to 44.1, and "Bit Depth" to 16. Below that is "Output Directory" click the "Specify" button, and then click "Set" to tell the app where to put the files. In the "Batch" preference, make sure that "Preserve directory structures" IS selected, and make sure that "Delete original files" is NOT selected. Then close the preference, and use the usual File menu "Open" and select all of the folders (or however they deliver the USB version) of FLAC files, and go have a cup of coffee and cut the lawn (if you have one) or whatever. It will take as long as an hour, depending on how fast your processor is. This is very easy and XLD is a great reliable application. Then, burn away at will. I'm sure that there is equivalent and easy to use Windows software that will accomplish the task, but I don't know anything about that. Maybe someone else can provide a Windows explanation.
September 12, 2015 - 8:49am

#4659

bohlint

Joined:
September 9, 2015

Sound Quality?

Happy Saturday Deadland. I have a question regarding the sound quality of this release. Please keep in mind that I am not very well versed in the technology of recording. In my opinion from listening to the releases over the years The Other One is easily the best dead mix I have heard. I revisit those CD’s often and love them. The Europe 72 releases also sound great to my ear as well. I believe I can hear a big difference between these and the Dave’s Picks and Road Trip series. Is there any way of knowing what to expect with the CD’s in this release. Mixing is one of the most time consuming and costly parts of a release, right? Is there concern that they may have rushed this or was it done right? Thanks in advance!
September 12, 2015 - 7:39am

#4660

JimInMD

Joined:
June 27, 2011

Re: Credit Card Dispute

I think it depends on the card.. but I had an issue a few years back that went back much more than 30 days and AmEx investigated the matter and refunded me 100%. ..but I'm still holding out hope that this will be a decent release. There are several shows in this offering that have my attention, some old, plus Cape Code, Augusta and MSG. I think I am somewhere in the middle of BrianHahne and OneMan in listening habits. For E72, Brian (must have) started with a few dozen pots of coffee and didn't sleep until he listened to the whole box. One Man must be close to finishing his first listen now, but needs to review and re-write some of his notes as the Staples near his home has run out of paper (again). (kidding folks). I expect it to take me on the heavy side of six months to get through this monstrosity. ..and I doubt if I really hit too much other stuff so I am getting in my diversity now. Doc Watson yesterday, Summertime, when the livin's easy. Man that guy can pick.. super clean. Good Luck FH2 and everyone else.

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"When we began discussing audio projects to commemorate the 50th anniversary of the Grateful Dead back in 2012, we knew we wanted to do something completely unprecedented. We could think of nothing more exciting or ambitious than a career-spanning overview of the band's live legacy focused on what best tells the story: complete concerts. Our first criterion was the very best live music to represent any given year in the band’s history. We wanted to make sure that there were not only the tent-pole shows that fans have been demanding for decades but also ones that are slightly more under the radar, but equally excellent. For those who listen to the entire box straight through, chronologically, the narrative of the Grateful Dead's live legacy will be seen as second to none in the pantheon of music history." - David Lemieux

We are more than pleased to announce the Grateful Dead's most ambitious release ever: 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN. Available as both an 80-disc boxed set and a custom lightning-bolt USB drive, the collection includes 30 unreleased live shows, one for each year the band was together from 1966 to 1995, along with one track from their earliest recording sessions in 1965. Packed with over 73 hours of music, both the boxed set and the USB drive will be individually numbered limited editions.

The 80-disc boxed set is individually numbered and limited to 6,500 copies, a nod to the band’s formation in 1965. Along with the CDs, it also includes a gold-colored 7-inch vinyl single which bookends the band’s career. The A-side is “Caution (Do Not Stop On Tracks)” from the band’s earliest recording session in 1965 with the B-side of the last song the band ever performed together live, “Box Of Rain” recorded during their final encore at Soldier Field in Chicago on July 9, 1995.

The box also comes with a 288-page book that features an extensive, career-spanning essay written by Nick Meriwether, who oversees the Dead archives at the University of California, Santa Cruz, along with special remembrances of the band submitted by fans. Also included is a scroll that offers a visual representation of how the band’s live repertoire has evolved through the years.

The USB drive version* will be shaped like a gold lightning bolt with the Grateful Dead 50th anniversary logo engraved on the side. The drive includes all of the music from the collection in both FLAC (96/24) and MP3 formats and is an individually numbered limited edition of 1,000 copies. Digital version of the book also included on USB.

Shows will NOT be sold individually on CD. This release is sure to sell out quickly so pre-order your copy today and stick around as we will be revealing a mighty fine selection of music, art, and much, much more right here.

(Looking for a smaller 50th Anniversary commemorative keepsake? September 18th will see the release of a four-CD version of the collection titled 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN: THE DEFINITIVE LIVE STORY 1965-1995. More on that here.)

ROLLINGSTONE.COM SONG PREMIERE AND EXCLUSIVE DAVID LEMIEUX INTERVIEW
Head on over to Rollingstone.com for the very first listen of "Morning Dew" 9/18/87 Madison Square Garden, David Fricke's exclusive interview with archivist David Lemieux, and the reveal of 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN's '69 and '84 shows.

*Helpful hints for using your USB:

Running the 30 Trips Player / Reader program:
On Windows – Navigate to the USB drive and double click the PCStart.exe file to run.
On MacOS – Open the GD 30 Trips drive, and double click the MacStart to run.

Viewing the digital book:
You can either view it within the program that comes on the drive, or by opening the PDF directly.

To view the PDF, open the PDF folder on the drive and the USB_bk_spreads_08-31 file within. Selecting the option within your PDF reading application to view as a “single page” might be preferable to viewing as a continuous document.

Importing music into iTunes and other library programs:
When you import the songs from the USB into your library, the information used to identify the track will likely leave them sorted incorrectly. Please use the song list found here to re-number the songs for each show so that they playback in the correct order.
PDF
Text

1973 San Diego....MISSING DISC ONE!!!!

I had been waiting for the legendary 1973 San Diego show, going in order of the box set. I get in my car this morning to put in disc one and go for a cruise but, low and behold, DISC 1 IS MISSING!!! I'm so upset. I spent $750 for a box set with a missing disc. I contacted customer service who forwarded my complaint to the appropriate person. I'm told that I might not get a response back until next week. Are you freakin' kidding me??? Over a week to hear back? Signed, DEPRESSED AS HELL

Miracle Scroll

Much to my surprise, I scored a Miracle in NY. Any idea how many of these were issued? This box is insanely good...

Re: Film

I'm certainly glad they have more film.. I just wish they had more footage of the show. Two songs? At this point I am thankful for what we have.. I believe the scuttlebutt regarding the filming of the festival itself involves a camera and production crew that got into the kool aid, whether on purpose or by accident. Bet that put more than a couple people in a situation they were not prepared for...

Dick's Picks 4 2/13-14/70

Now that we've got all the facts aired (again), I want to say that this pick was really the furthest thing from a travesty. There really are not any tracks out of order at all. What we got in DP4 was essentially the complete second electric sets from the late shows on both the 13th and the 14th, missing only the AWBYG encore from the 13th. The only deviations from this both-second-sets format are quite minor and reasonable: we got one extra (you might say bonus) song, Casey Jones, from the opening electric set on the 14th, intro'd by Zacherle. Laudable. The only other deviation is that the material from the 14th, while it is complete and in proper running order, is interrupted by the material from the 13th. That, IMO, was also eminently sensible: how else to get all this stuff onto three discs without glaring breaks in the jam segments? [I did weep (a little) that a disc break had to come between Dark Star and TIFTOO, because that is one of my absolute favorite segues in the band's performance history -- just synapse searing stuff; the audience silence and reaction mirrors my own slack-jawed admiration as those last gentle notes and a cymbal wash open a perfect instant where nothing can happen, no applause, no whoops or cheers from the crowd, just a microsecond of awe and... into Cryptical at which point the attendees can't hold back their glee any longer -- but given the limitations of CDs I don't think there was another valid option. I have long since edited the tracks together for seamless playback of the entire 13th second set.] DP4 is a fantastic release. We could only wish for more of the material that was played on both nights (a virtual impossibility given the state of thinking on what disc buyers would accept at the time of the release, for reasons pointed out below).

RE: funding project

Thanks for the link to donate to Kevin's new PC. Kevin has been doing great work for over 15 years in bringing lost GD video to circulation and freely sharing it with anyone that wanted it. He is a great resource and lavishes time on syncing the best source audio in circulation and the bits of video that circulate for the shows, often with crappy original audio. Mr. Tobin is one of the behind the scene faces that brings the past to life with his work that inspires and entertains us all. I'm proud to help him get a new workstation, so he can continue his personal quest in sharing rare GD video to the deadhead community. Check out his past work here. http://db.etree.org/ktvids

#1882

I haven't had the time to dig into the new box yet, but wanted to state my digits #1882 Ticket: 5/27/93 Pass: 3/22/95

DP 4

The release itself is one my favorites, a classic and a true giant. I don't think comments indicated the release was a travesty.. to the contrary, that it is so good it deserved full show treatment. The use of the word travesty was as much a play on the word itself and that it has come up on these threads a good bit over the last six months. I guess I am a completest and love the acoustic portions that have been released. My comments were more that I wish the whole shows (acoustic and electric, early and late - whatever exists) were released. There was also a good big of dialogue about the history of Dicks Picks, one disc vs. two vs. three, etc. that is pertinent. I wouldn't consider this a negative comment, or at least it wasn't meant as such. Hope that helps clarify.. Dicks 4 is special as were the shows themselves.

#243

Ticket stub: 10/27/91Backstage pass: 6/9/93 red velvet lining Everything is all there as far as cds and goodies. Scroll had some damage at the top of it. Not sure what happened here. It looks like someone had issues with rolling up the scroll. Like they had to force it or something. Must have got in a hurry. So far, I love I love this box. I held out on listening to the entire shows while waiting for delivery. The highlights so far for me have been the 4/15/70, 10/21/83, 10/26/89, 3/18/71, and 11/10/67 shows. I still have quite a bit left to dive into. Things are lookin good in deadhead land. Here in a couple weeks we'll have DaP16 from 3/28/73. Can't wait!!

Multitracks

I'm with Judysparty on this. Are the multitracks from this box 11/10/67 and 10/26/89? I've seen 10/26/89 noted, but the only other one that makes sense to me is 11/10/67?

Re: wurm

Yep, you have that right only two are sourced from multi-tracks; 11/10/67 and 10/26/89.

No ">" in the set

I've started ripping the discs to iTunes. So far, there are no ">" on the track listings, indicating that one song goes seamlessly into the next. I use those markings to join tracks, so that adds a lot of extra work. Would have been nice if they showed the ">"!

No ">" in the set

It is on the back cover of the CD sleeve.

@JimInMD

I think we agree completely there. Misinterpretation (one of my specialties!) does happen sometimes. Couldn't resist adding my own 2 cents to the only slightly-stale DP4 discussion.

No ">" in the set

Kayak Guy: I'm looking at 10/30/68. Per Deadlists, tracks 3 - 7 (Dark Star, St. Stephen, The Eleven, Caution, Feedback) flow seamlessly. No ">" on back cover. Maybe I'll see some as I continue ripping. OK, I see ">" for the 1969 set. So maybe they just missed 68.

USB Sticks Shipping Yet?

Heard a comment regarding the receipt of a USB "30 Trips" stick. Anybody know if these are being shipped? Anybody get one yet?

1968

Not a knock on the 1968 selection but it reminds me of Dick's Pick's Vol 2. Did the cats down at Rhino run out of the multi CD sleeves? I'm sure there were many meatier choices that they could have used for that year.

No ">" in the set

Good catch, corrected mine, but I think you meant 10/20/68

hallstallion

If your missing disc situation isn't getting resolved, lemme know so I can make sure someone's on the case. Thanks and sorry for the problem.

Dick's Picks 4 2/13-14/70

Figure I throw this out,,, both these shows are available as a soundboard from Charlie Miller on the archive and you don't have that break between dark star -> That's it for the Other One.

Re: 1968

I waited with great anticipation to see what was coming from '68. I'm a little bummed to find out there is one CD devoted to '68, one of the very best years of the Grateful Dead in my opinion. I want my '68 boxed set. ;-)

1968

Yeah it does seem kinda blazed that a one disc show is what they chose to represent such an awesome year in the box, though the quality is certainly there it just seems really short. I second the 68 boxset, maybe some of those august shows!

Dick's Picks 4 2/13-14/70

...and the 50th Anniversary edition of DeadBase wants me to know that there is really no such thing as "the second electric set" on either the 13th or the 14th. There were late and early shows, but, per DeadBase, those late shows had only 1 electric set each. This is what happens when I open my mouth...

rrot Dick's Picks 4 2/13-14/70

No I think that you were right in the first place & DeadBase is mistaken. On 2/13 there was an early and a late, but it looks like for the late show, the Dead played an electric set, an acoustic set, and a second electric set, if you look at the internet archive (I didn't go to 2/13, I went the next night, but just the kiddie show at 8, 'cause I was just a kid).

10/20/68

After reading several comments about this show, I agree that a longer show should have been selected. Yet, I am very happy with what was selected. About a month ago I listened to Live/Dead and this '68 show reminds me of that album very much. I now call this 10/20/68 show, "Proto - LIVE / DEAD" Maybe we will get treated to more, and longer, music from 1968.

ziffle!

Wha-??? You attended one of the 2/14 shows??? No wonder you're so vested in this! (The hits just keep on comin' on these boards...just waiting for a 4/25/69 or Big Rock Pow Wow attendee to chime in....) I do remember Bear posting about this run a few years back and arguing there couldn't possibly have been enough time for an early show, an acoustic set, and two more electric sets from the GD ~ along with a New Riders set ~ in a single night. But I'd thought he was proven wrong with the emergence of some additional tapes in recent years (?)

1968

I'd love to see a 1968 boxset, theres plenty of multi night stands for them to choose from. And with Bear recording I'm sure the quality is top notch.

Actually,

Maybe I previously misrepresented what DeadBase is saying. To be scrupulous, they have put a note for each of these late shows, which says, on 2/14: "This is all one set" presumably referring to the acoustic AND electric material together. I guess the meaning of that might be: the band didn't leave the stage and take a break at all during the late show??? On 2/13 late show, the note even says, "China Cat through Lovelight is all one set. Monkey and The Engineer through Katie Mae are acoustic." I have not listened to the archive material. Can anyone comment whether there is obviously set breaks within the material? What I know of the "first electric set" on 2/14 suggests a *very* short "set" indeed. Maybe they did play these whole late shows without any breaks, electric to acoustic and back to electric?? Maybe that comports with Bear's recollection as well.

6/24/85

What an awesome and zany show this is, and excellent recording. I really love the groove they fall into during He's Gone > Smokestack > Cryptical. There's a quality to '85 Healy mixes that I really dig. He truly becomes the 7th member of the band. 3/20/92, the one show from the box I attended is a bit of a revelation of sorts. At the time, I thought it was a really good show, but compared them to the Richfield shows I attended the previous September in '91 as feeling like a considerably more laid back approach. Hearing it now, I've completely changed my view of this show, and it's even better than I remembered. I also checked out the '89 Miami show, and wow...way too awesome to comment on now. This should have been a stand alone release. Essential.

2/14/70

>>>>I do remember Bear posting about this run a few years back >>>>and arguing there couldn't possibly have been enough time >>>>for an early show, an acoustic set, and two more electric >>>>sets from the GD ~ along with a New Riders set ~ in a >>>>single night. Quick note - the 2/14/70 show seems to be 1hr 15 min 1st set electric, followed by a hour of acoustic, followed by 90 minutes of second set electric. There is an introduction before first set. There is a second intro before acoustic (by Zacherle) where from his comments I take it to be after midnight, since he mentions good morning and Sunday, the 2/14 show was a Saturday,,, so maybe Bear is wrong. Hell I can't remember yesterday half the time, so unless Bear is quoting from written notes.... :-)

6/24/85

"The lucky winner of the raffle... get's to hold the rhythm section hostage...." Great show!!

High Praise

Mitheral - Though was not what you meant, I'd say comparing the 1968 show in this box to Dick's Picks 2 is high praise - that is a nearly perfect release IMO. One disc of perfection, with a top Dark Star. Tonight I'm finally getting to said 68 show (taking my sweet time, in chrono order). Can't wait! I think what this 30 Trips box tells us, among other things, is: Hey folks, we have lots and lots of great stuff still in the vault!

Hey Dennis Wilmot - Bear mixed up his dates

Memory is tricky, but a trip to archive.org plus memory, plus the Google Village Voice archive answers the question. Bear mixed up a series of shows at the Fillmore and the Capitol Port Chester (and probably elsewhere) that were advertised as "An Evening With the Grateful Dead featuring the New Riders of the Purple Sage" - but those started in the late spring (5/15 Fillmore, I think). Some of these winter 1970 shows (e.g. 2/13 Fillmore, March Capitol) had a late show with a short electric set, a short acoustic set, and another electric set with more extended music (e.g. Dark Star/Cryptical etc. that's on DP4).

Dick's 4--2/13 and 2/14

What is on Dick's 4 is explained well in the Deadlists' writeups on this series of shows, including early and late shows. The Dark Star on DiP 4 is from 2/13 late show and transitions into TIFTOO. There is no cut or rearrangement. The 2/14 early show had a Dark Star>St. Stephen, not included on DiP 4.

5/15/70 NRPS - 9/17/70

5/15/70 was the first time the N.R.P.S. appeared in N.Y.C. I was at the early show as a long haired hippy punk of 16. The first time I remember seeing them as "An Evening With the Grateful Dead" was my next and third Dead show, 9/17/70. By the way a reviewer in Dead-Base 50 seems to have one of the nights for the February 71 Capitol Theater Dead shows mixed up. But then maybe its me who's mixed up. I like Mr. Ziffles take on the rearranging of song order during the February 71 shows. The gears are already shifting from the fall of 1970. Keep em guessing. Onward through the fog, Vote Oat.

2/13, 2/14/1970

I am beginning to think, much like Cornell, these shows might have either (a) not happened at all or (b) occurred on the same stage in Hollywood where they staged the moon landing a little more than six months earlier.

2/13 late enough for both Dark Stars to be 2/14?

what time did the late show start?

Apollo The Fake

Where do you think they got the idea for Standing On The Moon, huh?

Deadbolt Delivery

Is that my Deadbolt UPS attempted to deliver today, note on door 2nd attempt tomorrow.Could it be? Did the Boxzilla need signature for delivery? Anyone?

Surprised at the less than

enthusiastic comments for the '77 show in this box. I enjoyed it very much (well, at least the 2nd set from what I've heard so far). Only 2 days after the 4/23 Springfield show that was my "sleeper" pick for '77 (near and dear to my heart), I do hear some of those interesting (what I believe to be) Polymoog sounds most evident on the Playin' (such as on the 4/23 Slipknot!), that makes this an interesting pick. I would have chose 4/23, or (thanks Claney) 5/4 for the amazing Playin'>Comes A Time sequence, but feel this is a solid pick nonetheless. Perhaps with the wealth of Spring '77 shows already released, we've become a little spoiled?

69flyer

Thought they would arrive on Halloween(Built To Last release) note on door has me wondering if The Lightning Bolts are being shipped.

Spoiled? Perish the thought.

Spoiled? Perish the thought. I look forward to this 77 show. Only on 68 right now. Phil. God. Trying to do this in sequence. Lindley will be all the sweeter.

Anyone else here

guilty of the crime of burning one-disk "compilations" or "highlights" of shows? For example, this is what I did for 4/23/77 Springfield: Loser Scarlet> Fire Estimated Bertha The Music Never Stopped Help> Slip> Franklin's The above fits on one disc, and is an oh, so sweet disc, if I say so myself. I do this all the time, so sue me ;)

Still no box!

Has anyone else from Georgia had any luck with getting the box yet? Is anyone else starting to get irate about the wait? Marye - can you help with this at all?

I'm still without in Georgia too!

Very frustrating

SE Blues

I wonder whats up? Seems strange.. My guess is partial shipment was made to their warehouse and they are waiting on the rest. Either that or they caught the box cutter bandit but only after he slashed a few of the product, so they are waiting for them to be replaced. But who knows.. it does seem like something's up though. Probably not much you can do but wait.

Challenge

Burn that one disc as described below for 4/23, and tell me it isn't the best one disc of GD you've ever heard ;) This, or course, invites your own one-disc submissions (must be from same show) for our listening pleasure...

Challenge

I load mixed discs for the car. I am beginning to load flash drives though.. love the USB plug in that comes on the newer vehicles.

lundyw1 & novembereleven

Check your PM's.You've probably already tried,but if not.... :)

Jim

Mixed discs? You're blowing my mind, and going way beyond the scope of my premise. Multiple selections from different shows on one disc? You're stretching the boundaries there, my friend, and making a quantum leap before it's time ;) OK, I've done that too, but not often...

Not quite mixed discs..

but mixed flash drives, yes. For discs, I am doing what you are doing, condensing a three disc show to two discs or one disc. Something portable. I just got a new truck about six months ago that has a USB port that the stereo reads.. so I have one of those in that has about 15 shows. The problem is, it doesn't read ALAC's and I gave up on MP3's long ago.. so I have to go back in time to get any mp3s at all. or I can just plug my phone in.

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