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    Got ideas for how things should be run differently in the Vineyard? Improvements? Suggestions? Brainstorms? Truckloads of fertilizer? Post here.,On the floor at MSG... one perfect song after another...and we were beyond elated with disbelief and gratitude. This was truely a fantasy set list and, in my opinion, the best of my 8 show run.

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  • JackstrawfromC…
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    Re-seed thread
    You have my vote! "I've stayed in every blue-light cheap hotel. Can't win for tryin. Dust off those rusty strings just one more time. Gonna make em shine."
  • Exploratory Da…
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    There needs to be some
    There needs to be some organization. Wipe the slate clean. Do something. I agree. It's too much of a pain to go through every page. I'm too lazy to do it. I wonder if a filter can be set up to dump inactive vines (last post over a month or 2) into a separate folder. That would eliminate all those dang pages. The request for re-seeds is fine with me.
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    Sounds good
    Sounds good to me .
  • cosmicbadger
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    Let's just ask Marye to set up a Vine Reseed Request Forum and see how it goes. Can't do any harm. Can I suggest we try to keep it free of general chit chat and such so that the requests are easy to find? Someone posts a request. If someone can help they post to say so and also post on the relevant vine page and off we go again.
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    wow man ,
    Thank you Badger .. all those are mia vines ? crap man thats too much .. pomo1, I agree with you . it would be much easier that way . It is kinda a pain in the ass to go through every page and every posting on a vine to send mass pm`s to people requesting re-seeds . As far as re-seeding vines , I would be more then happy to re-seed however I don`t have a external dvd burner for my XP right now and lack of funds also makes it a little hard for me to re-seed anything ..not to mention the whole vista-xp thing .. But I will try to do what i can .. Thank you everybody for seeding and re-seeding !! This is a magical place for music !!
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    this will be the last time I propose a new topic for requests for re-seeds. Frankly, I don't understand why the idea has been shot down in the past, but it seems clear (to me at least) that a single spot where requests can be made and filled is necessary. Anybody who wants to have a vine revived can post and someone likely will re-seed. If there is no interest then no one will request a re-seed. This would also obviate the need to constantly go through single vines to see what needs to be re-seeded. Thanks again to everyone in the Vineyard. "Great spirits have always found violent opposition from mediocrities. The latter cannot understand it when a man does not thoughtlessly submit to hereditary prejudices but honestly and courageously uses his intelligence." Albert Einstein
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    Wow. Thank you.
    Wow. Thank you.
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    I will update the Vindex again in September some time. With the arrival of so many new megavines its going to get a lot bigger for sure. I was thinking of marking on the Vindex which Vines are dead, but as we know, pronouncing the death of a vine can be an unreliable business. MITD and others had done a lot of work to identify the status of all the vines but I am not sure where we are on that now. I really do not fancy going through every single vine in the vineyard to check its status. However a 'quick and dirty' way to do this is to go to the index for the Vineyard. Home » Forums » Dead Heads » Tapers>The Vineyard. This lists all the vines in order of the most recent post. If you go to the last pages of that you can see which vines have been inactive for a long time. This does not mean the vines are dead, they may just have reached the end of the line. And of course vines with more recent posts may actually be dead; someone might have just been asking recently where it is! But it does give you a very rough idea. Based on this, here are the 45 out of around 295 vines with no activity (MIA) since the end of May (3 months ago). 15-20% attrition in 2 years ain't too bad. Jerry Solo Acoustic 4-10-82 Capitol Theater, Passaic NJ Last Post May 29 2009 UK SOL Party Vine Last Post May 27 2009 Little Bit of Jerry Vine Last Post May 24 2009 Dead Heads for Obama 2/4/08 Vine Last Post May 23 2009 Basement Tapes #1 Vine Last Post May 23 2009 Eurovine #3 - US Branch Last Post May 21 2009 Field Trip '72 Vine Last Post May 14 2009 Warfield 10/9/80 Vine Last Post May 14 2009 ABB 9/28/04 Vine Last Post May 13 2009 Rochester, NY 9/2/80 Vine Last Post May 11 2009 - 8:34am Early Stuff Volume 1 Vine Last Post May 6 2009 Bobby & The Midnites Vine Last Post May 6 2009 Keith's First Few Months (KFFM) Vine Last Post May 6 2009 Carousel Ballroom 3/3/68 Vine Last Post May 5 2009 Winterland 12/27/77 Vine Last Post May 4 2009 Flac Me, Flac You Vine Last Post May 3 2009 Three from 1975 Vine Last Post Apr 29 2009 Tivoli '72 TV Vine Last Post Apr 29 2009 Progressive Rock Vine Last Post Apr 27 2009 Boise, ID 9/23/83 Vine Last Post Apr 27 2009 Orpheum Theater 7-12-76 Vine Last Post Apr 22 2009 Felt Forum 1971 Vine Last Post Apr 21 2009 Bigger Bit of Talking Heads Vine Last Post Apr 20 2009 The Sublime Vine Last Post Apr 18 2009 PKPotter Vine Last Post Apr 9 2009 Cleveland Convention Center 12/6/73 Vine Last Post Apr 5 2009 Phil Lesh Christmas 2007 Vine Last Post Mar 27 2009 Neil & Crazy Horse 2001 Eurotour Compilation Vine Last Post Mar 20 2009 Cream Filling #1 1973 Vine Last Post Mar 11 2009 Winterland 10/22/67 Vine Last Post Feb 23 2009 Phil Warfield Plus Eurovine Last Post Feb 20 2009 Gruga Halle 3/28/81 Vine Last Post Feb 18 2009 Eurovine #5 U.S. Branch Last Post Feb 18 2009 Warfield 2/17/82 Vine Last Post Feb 14 2009 Baton Rouge, LA Vine Last Post Feb 8 2009 Jerry Garcia/Greg Harrington Interview Vine Last Post Jan 15 2009 Merl Saunders Keep On Keepin' On Vine Last Post Jan 11 2009 Fall 79 Part One Vine Last Post Dec 27 2008 Eurovine #2 - US Branch Last post Dec 17 2008 Crazy Quilt, AKA Crazy Guilt, Vine Last post Nov 30 2008 Phil Eurovine #1 Last post Nov 12 2007 Winterland October 1978 Vine (From Egypt With Love) Suspended due to official release Egypt 1978 Vine Suspended due to official release Nassau Coliseum 1990 Vine Inactive because it is a duplicate Winterland '72-'73 Vine Suspended when Winterland 73 box set released 10/8-9/89 - Hampton Coliseum Vine Suspended when updated I will try to post this list every 3 months with the Vindex. It only takes 15 minutes to make and should become more reliable as time goes by. I have never been to the middle parts of the USA, but I think the landscapes have a lot in common with Central Asia; hot dry summers and hard cold winters. Deserts, mountains and steppe.
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    If the problems were straight up vista/xp incompatibility wouldn't it be more widespread, it seems more random in the vineyard unless the majority of us are using vista. I will try your suggestion oh yeah the next time I burn a DVD for a vine (which will be soon!!) :-) "I've stayed in every blue-light cheap hotel. Can't win for tryin. Dust off those rusty strings just one more time. Gonna make em shine."
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    another Vista solution
    1. Insert a disc into your computer's CD or DVD drive. 2. In the dialog box that appears, click "Burn files to disc." 3. In the "Burn a disc" dialog box, type a name for your new disc. 4. Also in the "Burn a disc" dialog box, click "Change version." This will open the "Select a Live File System Version" dialog box, where you can choose a different formatting version for compatibility with different kinds of computers. Select Live File System version 1.5 or 1.02. Either one will work with Mac OS X Tiger (my computer), but earlier Macs and PCs may need version 1.02; it's pretty much universal. It's versions 2.01 and 2.5 that are the least compatible, and unfortunately Vista is set at 2.5 until you change it. 5. Click Next to prepare the disc. The "Mastered" workaround that stuman mentioned works too, as does switching to XP, which is what a lot of people have done (generally speaking; I don't know if anyone in the vineyard has switched). For Mac owners, I believe Mac OS X 10.5 (Leopard) and the new Mac OS X 10.6 (Snow Leopard), the latter of which ships this Friday, both accept the Live File System 2.5 DVDs (ie, the default version in Vista). But without upgrading my OS I have to fire up my PC laptop (XP, but it sees the Vista-created DVDs) and move the files over to a flash drive, which I then open on my Mac. Ain't technology grand?? :-) ~~~~~~~ "They say Cain caught Abel rolling loaded dice"
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Got ideas for how things should be run differently in the Vineyard? Improvements? Suggestions? Brainstorms? Truckloads of fertilizer? Post here.,On the floor at MSG... one perfect song after another...and we were beyond elated with disbelief and gratitude. This was truely a fantasy set list and, in my opinion, the best of my 8 show run.
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Dstache - Do you have a list of the acoustic 80 shows? You can PM me... "I've stayed in every blue-light cheap hotel. Can't win for tryin. Dust off those rusty strings just one more time. Gonna make em shine."
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Lopezz:The T-Heads never was released by MITD before his uncanny disappearance. "And I love the life I live And I'm gonna live the life I love"
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I will always be up for seeding some Talking Heads! I still have these shows and some great new stuff too. The old vine was intended for the cd crowd. Now that there are more people trading in flac I will pick the two best shows to burn on cds and have the rest in flac.
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"I've stayed in every blue-light cheap hotel. Can't win for tryin. Dust off those rusty strings just one more time. Gonna make em shine."
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I pm`d him but hav`nt heard from him . I have the 77 pt 1 vine for him . or should i skip him , don`t really want to do that he is a reliable viner here . any ideas or anyone got his addy ?
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2009-09-19 dsbd now in the usuaLL places. How do they manage to get them out?
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Hey vine friends - I'm stepping out of town for about a week so I'll catch up with vines that are currently heading my way the middle of next week. sorry for any inconvenience! "I've stayed in every blue-light cheap hotel. Can't win for tryin. Dust off those rusty strings just one more time. Gonna make em shine."
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Looks like mdecicco1 is holding up a few of the 1973 vines (and for months, not just a week ro two). I advise against sending him anything else until he gets those vines moving again. If I have to reseed one of the three vines, that is fine, but I am not going to seed all three. A little help will be needed from other viners to reseed if mdecicco1 has disappeared.
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So glad i ddidn't make it!!! Only thought I have: if someone posts an e-mail address -- use it! We all don't log in with the same frequency, so maybe that is a thought to keep things going. I have been a huge offender of not posting a 'status' (sent, received etc.) Thanks to all for patience love and understanding.
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Next vine will consist of 4 of the unvined shows from January 1978. Rick sent me the month and I am in the process of converting and listening to the shows I didn't already have (plus I will convert and listen to a show I had already, and LOVE, one of my all time fav shows, 1/31). 1/10 and 1/11, both very good shows, will be included. The 4th show will remain a secret until the vine is unleashed. Let me tell you, I was BLOWN away by it. If you are into, or at least don't mind, straight up rock n roll Grateful Dead, you will be blown away too. The Best of '79 series will continue. I finished listening to the spring shows and have 2 that I think are worthy of inclusion in this illustrious series. I am taking a little break from 79 and will wait until I listen to the summer shows before vining the next part. Give me a month or so for the next part. Rick also sent me the '80 acoustic sets from Radio City. If anyone has the acoustic sets from the Warfield or Louisiana, let me know and we can vine the whole shebang.
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The acoustic radio city vine sounds awesome. I have the acoustic warfield sets from 10/2 and 10/11 which I belive I got from vines on here. I'd love to have the electric sets from those shows also, so let me know if you can get ahold of them. Thanks for all you do here! Peace, Trevor "You know the one thing we need is a left handed monkey wrench....."
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Like I said I have the acoustic 9/30 and 10/3 shows along with the Radio City ones. I have been trying to obtain a few of the others... "I've stayed in every blue-light cheap hotel. Can't win for tryin. Dust off those rusty strings just one more time. Gonna make em shine."
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I have the 10/26/80 full show in amazing quality... if this is needed let me know Derek. I have been looking for sbds of 10/23 & 10/27 complete shows if anyone has these... I was there and would love to get these. Marty
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There are a lot of different vines here and they are usually in North America (and they are not in Eurovines topic). It takes too long to wait them in Europe and to send them overseas and back again and again... It would be better to re-seed vines for European Deadheads separate from North America. Lets think how to do it. Maybe first person from Europe must re-seed it or there must be the other way to do it.
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there were indeed a bunch of eurovines and indeed quite a few vines in the US have been started from Europe, but I think most folks in Europe get their Dead from the well known places where it can be found online and so don't vine so much. Kind folks in the USA do send vines to Europe if you ask. Some will make new copies for reseeding here (you can then offer it on the Eurovines forum). Or if a vine seems to have reached the end of the line in the US, then the time to send it over the water and back is not really an issue and so you could sign up. So I suggest you PM the holders of the vines you like and ask them if they can help. More than one has helped me in this way. If you are desperate for any particular shows from the 60s and 70s you can PM me too.... you are in Belarus if I remember correctly . I am sure that folks would be happy to help out a Deadhead over there. I am often in Ukraine and Russia but have not yet visited Belarus..if I do I will bring you a stack of DVDs! .( I am writing from the Sykvitkar in the Komi Republic in Russia right now!)
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Cosmic, worldly, erudite, and a whole bunch of other good adjectives - and he's always somewhere different - we could have a game called "where's cosmic badger?" - kind of like "Where's Waldo" - I'd bet he speaks like 10 languages (not including badger)
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What was the vine that came with the two Sting concerts. I screwed up burning the houston show and can't locate in my records what vine it came with. Thanky. DMTT
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was it Jerry Garcia/Sting 6/26/93 Vine ? The other one was Sting in Houston in 1997. The JG/Sting 6/26/93 was part of two vines at the same time. They came as "Extras" in the vine I am looking for.
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I'm pretty sure they were on the Sting Garcia vine at one time. I guess they may have lost their way at some point. This is what I still have: The Police, Budokan Hall Tokyo Japan 02-02-1981 The Police, The Bottom Line, NYC 04-04-1979 The Police, Miami, FL 05-04-1979 The Police, Complete" Synchronicity Rehearsals 07-22-1983 The Police, Ghost in the Machine Demos 1981 Sting and Garcia, RFK Stadium - Washington, DC 06-26-93 Sting, Superstar Concert Series
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The show came as master files from the SCS. And I had to break them up into tracks. It was my first attempt at this and I messed up.
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The show came as master files from the SCS. And I had to break them up into tracks. It was my first attempt at this and I messed up.
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I'm heading to the Great Plains for some Yonder Halloween shows tomorrow, won't be home until late Sunday night. So anything that may land on my doorstep in the interim (Neil Young Europe comp, 5 Garcia shows, etc...) will have to wait until sometime next week.
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Brand New Jerrydex posted in the Vindex forum. Long overdue project compiled in various aeroplanes and airports on my long journey home yesterday.
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Sorry it was not I who inserted the sting shows onto the First Anniversary vine. The show may have been added after it was given to the community. Peace Rick
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I am still here. The vine traffic has slowed down. Is there something in the water here at deadnet? Mind you, I'm just minding my own business and not bothering anyone or looking for trouble. :0) In the last 2 days, I have received hate mail regarding my political philosophies and love letters. Hope everyone has a great holiday season. "I do believe in spooks, I do believe in spooks, I do, I do, I do, I do, I do"--Lion Wizard of Oz
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It probably was not really "hate mail." :-) It was just like I have no business being here at deadnet since my philosophies go against everything the Dead stands (stood) for. :-) "I do believe in spooks, I do believe in spooks, I do, I do, I do, I do, I do"--Lion Wizard of Oz
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Considering the only true philosophy the Dead had was to allow everybody to do and be who were they were without judging. "That path is for, your steps alone."
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I'm sorry to hear that EDA. Care to let us know who is sending such nasty mail?
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Let's drop this. The post was not bad or nasty. Remember I also got a love note too--within 24 hours of each other. Seriously. I was just joking that something must be in the water. I did not want to start a discussion so I apologize for stirring the pot. I have a general policy to stay inside this vinyard where it is safe and not venture out into the woods where sasquatch lurks. It's a full moon--look at your calendars!
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Don't worry about it EDA. Some people are way too judgmental.. "I've stayed in every blue-light cheap hotel. Can't win for tryin. Dust off those rusty strings just one more time. Gonna make em shine."
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is safe and warm and cozy! "That path is for, your steps alone."
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:-) That's why I hang out here all the time. "I've stayed in every blue-light cheap hotel. Can't win for tryin. Dust off those rusty strings just one more time. Gonna make em shine."
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I have gone through the many pages of vines. Is there a flac Europe '72 vine? I see one that is not flac and some tracks have gaps between them. I'll check the vindex. "I do believe in spooks, I do believe in spooks, I do, I do, I do, I do, I do"--Lion Wizard of Oz
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I hate to bring this up again but be on the lookout for mail in your PM box from gloryph. He/she does not accept private PMs (how convenient) but only wants to communicate by e-mail (now that's a red flag). They just joined (another red flag), and the message sent to me appears to be a generic "love letter" message. I googled this, and low and behold quite a few folks have received gloryph's exact same message on other unrelated forums (flashing red lights). I suspect that gloryph has targeted other folks here at deadnet. I am not sure what the motive is (friendship...etc) but after discovering this, I decided to put out an all points bulletin. EDAD
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I do not remember a all FLAC '72. Are you going to do one? Let me know if you need any help.Peace rick Reach out your hand if your cup be empty If your cup is full may it be again
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that you can google our vines. If you type in all or part of the name and end it with vine, a lot of the come up as the second or third hit. I just thought that was kind of cool.
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and this would be a good time to remind folks that anything they post in the forums is world-readable, too...
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Hi everyone , after 12 hours a day for the last 3 weeks of training i had to take a week off. But I`m back and I do have sevral vines wich I am working on and will get them out as soon as I can . Thank you all for your peitients .
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I was wondering where you disappeared to! 12 hours a day of training?? Yikes! "I've stayed in every blue-light cheap hotel. Can't win for tryin. Dust off those rusty strings just one more time. Gonna make em shine."
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I didn't know where to post this, but since the vineyard is like my home away from home, I figured this was as good a place as any. Bill Walton was talking about the constant criticism he receives as a basketball analyst. He said that he was like St. Stephen: "Wherever he goes the people all complain." I just thought that was cool. "That path is for, your steps alone."
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If you ever listen to a game he works on tv, he is constantly dropping allusions to the Dead and to specific songs.... A few weeks ago on the occasion of John Wooden's 99th birthday, (the legendary coach of the UCLA Bruins), he called Wooden a "Saint of Circumstance" among other references. From this basketball fan's perspective however.... I think sometimes a little Dead-air would do him good! The man rambles! Finally.... met him outside the Spectrum one night.... he was getting out of a Lincoln and sneaking into a side door about 30 minutes prior to the show.... stopped briefly and chatted.... was a nice experience. Thanks. Raymond
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Well, maybe a positive sign. For all you "Facebooker's" out there you might get this more then others. I sent a Mark G. Stanfield in Louisville, KY a "Friend request" 6-8 months ago. He never accepted it, but in looking at my "live feed" (sorta like the Twitter aspect of Facebook) he posted "Mark G. Stanfield joined the group An Arbitrary Number of People Demanding That Some Sort Of Action Be Taken. I don't know why he showed up on my live feed, but it sounds like it could be him. "And I love the life I live And I'm gonna live the life I love"
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I had taged Mark as a yahoo IM contact like way back whenever it was . I was recentley checking my e-mail and a little smiley face poped up with his name under it . I sent him a im but he never responed to me . kinda strange . but life is full of strangeness .. you all take care now ..