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    Got ideas for how things should be run differently in the Vineyard? Improvements? Suggestions? Brainstorms? Truckloads of fertilizer? Post here.,On the floor at MSG... one perfect song after another...and we were beyond elated with disbelief and gratitude. This was truely a fantasy set list and, in my opinion, the best of my 8 show run.

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    Man, I sure hope that I haven't inadvertently vined anything that was once MP3. Most of the lossless I have vined I received from another source, and I don't think it was ever MP3, and I KNOW I didn't convert it to MP3. That would really suck. I wish someone else would post on the WAV v lossless topic, especially regarding my statement that a WAV copy of a copy of a copy of a copy etc of a WAV copy converted from lossless has more loss than the original WAV copy. I might be wrong there. But, I will admit, I was a little irritated by the WAY I was told I was wrong. That may be oversensitivity on my part, or even the fact that posts, like emails, can be easily misinterpreted. I have been busy with other stuff and haven't posted some things I wanted to post. The 68 vine will be posted soon. All I have to do is copy and burn CB's disc. Oh Yeah has not gotten back to me about the burning speed or whatever the problem he and other MAC users are having with how my PC/Vista burns DVDs, so this will go out as my past vines have gone out. I will finish up the 77 after that and then take a little break from posting vines. So, although I said I would reseed the Nov 72 vine, I am going to bow out on that and hope someone else fills that hole. I have some other stuff to vine (I just got ALL of 1979), but am going to hold off for a while, though I will eventually vine it.
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    ya da ya da ya da...'74 JG Project Vine
    let's get back to the nuts and bolts of why we're here...the music...if you want to confirm that a vine has been converted from MP3 to lossless there are several ways to do that. I am guessing 95% of us take on faith that the vines circulated as lossless are lossless - and the rest have the means to check that they are the real deal. On that note...how about a vine a la the '77 lossless project? I propose the Garcia '74 shows all lossless and on DVD only. This would be in 5 installments. Many of them will be audience shows recorded by one of our great preservationist brothers (along with others), the recently deceased Jerry Moore, along with a large number of SBD recordings. Much of this material are the shows recorded with the late Merl Saunders. In my humble opinion, '74 was one of Jerry's best years, if not his best year for solo non-GD work. Below I list the 5 installments of this collection, if any one has any improved/additional shows to add let my know via PM and I will add them. As far as I know, these represent the best of what is out there, but again, what the hell do I know? Installment One (of Five) '74 Garcia Project: jg74-01-17.jgms.aud.tobin.76471.sbeok.flac16 jg74-01-17.jgms.dts-corrected.tobin.90398.flac jg74-01-17.jgms.mtx.tobin.90365.sbeok.flac16 jg74-01-17.jgms.sbd.kaplan.20678.sbeok.shnf jg74-01-17.jgms.sbd.tobin.76474.sbeok.flac16 jg74-01-18.jgms.aud-falanga.jupille.8873.sbeok.shnf jg74-01-19.jgms.sbd.jjoops.8064.sbeok.shnf jg74-02-05.jgms.sbd.jjoops.11254.sbeok.shnf jg74-02-05.jgms.sbd.ladner.32088.sbeok.flac16 jg74-02-09.jgms.partial.sbd.seff.6381.sbeok.shnf jg74-02-09.jgms.sbd.jjoops.17787.sbeok.shnf jg74-02-09.jgms.sbd.kung.30597.sbeok.flac16 jg74-02-16.jgms.aud.falanga.jupille.8063.sbeok.shnf jg74-02-16.jgms.sbd.gems.91471.sbeok.flac16 jg74-02-xx.jgms.aud.falanga.warner.8654.sbeok.shnf jg74-03-08.partial.kpfa-gans.32377.sbeok.flac16 jg74-03-09.jgms.sbd.unknown.33750.sbeok.flac16 Installment Two: jg74-04-20.gamb.sbd.smith.93823.sbeok.flac16 jg74-04-20.gasb.sbd.tamarkin.20699.sbeok.shnf jg74-04-27.oaitw.aud.unknown.21525.sbeok.shnf jg74-06-04.jgms.sbd.gmb.90003.sbeok.flac16 jg74-06-04.jgms.sbd.unknown.6379.sbeok.shnf jg74-06-05.jgms.s2.sbd.jjoops.8062.sbeok.shnf jg74-06-06.jgms.aud.falanga.jjoops.6375.sbeok.shnf jg74-06-12.gasb.aud.falanga.moore.berger.83232.sbeok.flac16 jg74-06-12.gasb.sbd.jupille.83290.sbeok.shnf jg74-06-12.gasb.sbd.shriver-jjoops.7331.sbeok.shnf jg74-06-13.gasb.sbd.jjoops.13768.sbeok.shnf jg74-07-02.jgms.aud.moore.minches.jjoops.14984.sbeok.shnf jg74-07-03.jgms.aud.jazzy.6611.sbeok.shnf jg74-07-03.jgms.aud.moore.minches.jjoops.14985.sbeok.shnf jg74-07-12.jgms.aud.falanga.jupille.8072.sbeok.shnf jg74-07-13.jgms.sbd.misshn.25623.sbeok.shnf jg74-07-22.jgms.sbd.gmb.86198.sbeok.flac16 jg74-07-22.jgms.sbd.sacks.10127.sbeok.shnf jg74-07-22.jgms.sbd.unknown.4488.sbeok.shnf Installment Three: jg74-08-09.jgms.aud.falanga.jjoops.8073.sbeok.shnf jg74-08-11.jgms.aud.falanga.warner.jjoops.6382.sbeok.shnf jg74-08-15.jgms.aud.falanga.8650.sbeok.shnf jg74-08-23.jgms.aud.unknown.9416.sbeok.shnf jg74-08-24.jgms.sbd.jjoops.10612.sbeok.shnf jg74-08-30.jgms.sbd.sacks.6380.sbeok.shnf jg74-08-31.jgms.aud.falanga.8078.sbeok.shnf jg74-09-02.jgms.sbd.gkelley.8652.sbefail.shnf jg74-09-02.jgms.sbd.sterchele.76174.sbeok.shnf jg74-09-02.jgms.sbd.unknown.31903.sbeok.flac16 jg74-10-04.jgms.aud.falanga.jjoops.8649.sbeok.shnf jg74-10-05.jgms.aud.falanga.warner.8665.sbeok.shnf jg74-10-06.jgms.partial.sbd.unknown.9026.sbeok.shnf jg74-10-27.jgms.late.aud.powell.ladner.23676.sbeok.shnf jg74-10-31.jgms.sbd.cousinit.19436.sbeok.shnf Installment Four: jg74-11-05.jgms.early.aud.moore.minches.jjoops.16806.sbeok.shnf jg74-11-05.jgms.early.aud.moore.minches.jjoops.16806.sbeok.shnf jg74-11-05.jgms.early.aud.moore.minches.jjoops.16806.sbeok.shnf jg74-11-07.jgms.early.aud.moore.weiner.jjoops.14306.sbeok.shnf jg74-11-08.jgms.aud.moore.9711.sbeok.shnf jg74-11-08.jgms.aud.moore.jjoops.16839.sbeok.shnf jg74-11-08.jgms.sonyecm.moskal.94547.sbeok.shnf jg74-11-09.jgms.late.slabicky.jjoops.8661.sbeok.shnf jg74-11-10.jgms.sbd.lemarre.18202.sbeok.shnf jg74-11-10.jgms.sbd.unknown.95767.sbeok.flac16 jg74-11-13.jgms.early.aud.uher.siniawski.merin.10128.sbeok.shnf jg74-11-14.jgms.early.aud.warburton.weiner.jjoops.16461.sbeok.shnf jg74-11-14.jgms.late.aud.uher.siniawski.merin.6383.sbeok.shnf Installment Five: jg74-11-15.jgms.late.sbd.lai.4487.sbefail.shnf jg74-11-15.jgms.sbd.late.misshn.8071.sbeok.shnf jg74-11-16.jgms.aud.early.moore.minches.jjoops.16808.sbeok.shnf jg74-11-16.jgms.aud.late.moore.minches.jjoops.16809.sbeok.shnf jg74-11-27.jgms.sbd.gems.91343.sbeok.flac16 jg74-11-27.jgms.sbd.partial.gems.89216.sbeok.flac16 jg74-11-28.jgms.sbd.gmb.85987.sbeok.flac16 jg74-11-28.jgms.sbd.lai.4486.sbefail.shnf jg74-12-15.jgms.sbd.jjoops.8177.sbeok.shnf jg74-12-28.jgms.aud.misshn.24317.sbeok.shnf jg74-12-29.jgms.early.aud.disalvo.taperpat.93978.sbeok.flac16 jg74-12-29.jgms.late.shure.disalvo.jjoops.8643.sbeok.shnf jg74-12-29.jgms.shure.cbass.17019.sbeok.shnf May the music live on...Peace UJ. 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    Are there really vines that have been downloaded as mp3 and encoded it flac? I use Cool Edit Pro to find this out when I download. If a file has already been changed to mp3 it doesn't improve when its coverted back. If people do not check for this, music can really get polluted! If its in mp3 format so be it, everyone will know what they are getting. Please do not them back to flac.
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    and bloom brightly...
    sorry for the negativity...I've said my peace and will now get out. "In a bed, in a bed, by the waterside I will lay my head. Listen to the river sing sweet songs, to rock my soul."
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    absolutely....
    and that's great of him, Brother...I'm not at all saying his contributions aren't appreciated...quite to the contrary....it's his critical actions are what I take issue with....perhaps I'm just interpreting his post(s) wrong....his posts, in conjunction with his past comments towards me, have certainly shaped my opinion of him....perhaps I'm being too harsh but even after re-reading his post I still get the same vibes...I do *hope* I'm wrong. "In a bed, in a bed, by the waterside I will lay my head. Listen to the river sing sweet songs, to rock my soul."
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    um, hello...
    enough with the posturing and name-calling. Let a thousand flowers bloom. Thank you.
  • johnman
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    i musta missed sumpin....dont remember anybody insulting any body...i do know erickat has sent me copies of shows as i am too dense to figure out how to copy this stuff. thanx man!
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    BETTER QUESTION:
    Raise your hand if you truly *missed* Erickat while he was "gone"? Perhaps he rubbed me the wrong way from the beginning with his unjust and prejudice actions towards me (with no apology).... but I just get blow-hard vibes from virtually *all* of his comments... (i.e. "I've been here, and have been listening, and responding and will continue, dispite the lack of "superstar" status that has been conferred upon some who have arrived after me & sought the limelight to their own supplication - e.g. putting their name into each vine they seed, even if it's a group effort.") Nobody's trying to steal your "limelight" Bro...and you are/were hardly a "superstar"....Dstache takes that cake...he has streamlined the vining process and at the same time he's caught it up with the times (someone had to do it)...you're vining, and probably living, in the past, Man. Times have changed since that picture was taken... ;) Don't be mistaken though my fellow music lover...your logic is valid....but only in the days of Great Wizards and Masters, neither of which apply to this century or to reality in general. Sorry if you do not feel as important or relevent as you have in the past but that is something only you have control of...it's *your* legacy, and yours alone...live and let live...If you don't want to sign up for specific vines, don't. But insulting and demeaning comments towards individuals who have done absolutely nothing to you to warrant such actions is immature and honestly makes me wanna vomit. I have contributed my 2 cents and hope they are well spent. ...I would like to give a special thank you to Dstache for all he has done for my, and many's, collection of Good Ol' Grateful Dead!!!! I (we) now have a collection that will last the test of time without having to spend hours of our time trying to obtain it....now we can use that time to ENJOY it!!!! And for that, "Great Wizard"...your "apprentices" are....eternally grateful. anywho...back to LIFE. :) and try to smile a lil bit...it feels MUCH better :)
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    there are lot`s of lossless downloads
    On shn/flac.net that have been downloaded from archives.org as mp3 , then converted to lossless re-uploaded to shn/flac as lossless .. That one kinda gets me wondering uumm whats the point in downloading mp3 converting to LL then spend twice the time or more to download it from shn/flac as shn/flac. I can just download the mp3 then convert it to shn/flac myself ,.? thats a whole lot of time converting downloading/uploading , so how much if any data is lost doing things this way ?
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    So how many vines have existed in an mp3 sequence?
    Raise your hand if you've circulated a Vine with an mp3 suffix converted to a wav, shn or flac?
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Dstache - Do you have a list of the acoustic 80 shows? You can PM me... "I've stayed in every blue-light cheap hotel. Can't win for tryin. Dust off those rusty strings just one more time. Gonna make em shine."
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Lopezz:The T-Heads never was released by MITD before his uncanny disappearance. "And I love the life I live And I'm gonna live the life I love"
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I will always be up for seeding some Talking Heads! I still have these shows and some great new stuff too. The old vine was intended for the cd crowd. Now that there are more people trading in flac I will pick the two best shows to burn on cds and have the rest in flac.
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"I've stayed in every blue-light cheap hotel. Can't win for tryin. Dust off those rusty strings just one more time. Gonna make em shine."
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I pm`d him but hav`nt heard from him . I have the 77 pt 1 vine for him . or should i skip him , don`t really want to do that he is a reliable viner here . any ideas or anyone got his addy ?
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2009-09-19 dsbd now in the usuaLL places. How do they manage to get them out?
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Hey vine friends - I'm stepping out of town for about a week so I'll catch up with vines that are currently heading my way the middle of next week. sorry for any inconvenience! "I've stayed in every blue-light cheap hotel. Can't win for tryin. Dust off those rusty strings just one more time. Gonna make em shine."
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Looks like mdecicco1 is holding up a few of the 1973 vines (and for months, not just a week ro two). I advise against sending him anything else until he gets those vines moving again. If I have to reseed one of the three vines, that is fine, but I am not going to seed all three. A little help will be needed from other viners to reseed if mdecicco1 has disappeared.
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So glad i ddidn't make it!!! Only thought I have: if someone posts an e-mail address -- use it! We all don't log in with the same frequency, so maybe that is a thought to keep things going. I have been a huge offender of not posting a 'status' (sent, received etc.) Thanks to all for patience love and understanding.
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Next vine will consist of 4 of the unvined shows from January 1978. Rick sent me the month and I am in the process of converting and listening to the shows I didn't already have (plus I will convert and listen to a show I had already, and LOVE, one of my all time fav shows, 1/31). 1/10 and 1/11, both very good shows, will be included. The 4th show will remain a secret until the vine is unleashed. Let me tell you, I was BLOWN away by it. If you are into, or at least don't mind, straight up rock n roll Grateful Dead, you will be blown away too. The Best of '79 series will continue. I finished listening to the spring shows and have 2 that I think are worthy of inclusion in this illustrious series. I am taking a little break from 79 and will wait until I listen to the summer shows before vining the next part. Give me a month or so for the next part. Rick also sent me the '80 acoustic sets from Radio City. If anyone has the acoustic sets from the Warfield or Louisiana, let me know and we can vine the whole shebang.
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The acoustic radio city vine sounds awesome. I have the acoustic warfield sets from 10/2 and 10/11 which I belive I got from vines on here. I'd love to have the electric sets from those shows also, so let me know if you can get ahold of them. Thanks for all you do here! Peace, Trevor "You know the one thing we need is a left handed monkey wrench....."
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Like I said I have the acoustic 9/30 and 10/3 shows along with the Radio City ones. I have been trying to obtain a few of the others... "I've stayed in every blue-light cheap hotel. Can't win for tryin. Dust off those rusty strings just one more time. Gonna make em shine."
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I have the 10/26/80 full show in amazing quality... if this is needed let me know Derek. I have been looking for sbds of 10/23 & 10/27 complete shows if anyone has these... I was there and would love to get these. Marty
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There are a lot of different vines here and they are usually in North America (and they are not in Eurovines topic). It takes too long to wait them in Europe and to send them overseas and back again and again... It would be better to re-seed vines for European Deadheads separate from North America. Lets think how to do it. Maybe first person from Europe must re-seed it or there must be the other way to do it.
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there were indeed a bunch of eurovines and indeed quite a few vines in the US have been started from Europe, but I think most folks in Europe get their Dead from the well known places where it can be found online and so don't vine so much. Kind folks in the USA do send vines to Europe if you ask. Some will make new copies for reseeding here (you can then offer it on the Eurovines forum). Or if a vine seems to have reached the end of the line in the US, then the time to send it over the water and back is not really an issue and so you could sign up. So I suggest you PM the holders of the vines you like and ask them if they can help. More than one has helped me in this way. If you are desperate for any particular shows from the 60s and 70s you can PM me too.... you are in Belarus if I remember correctly . I am sure that folks would be happy to help out a Deadhead over there. I am often in Ukraine and Russia but have not yet visited Belarus..if I do I will bring you a stack of DVDs! .( I am writing from the Sykvitkar in the Komi Republic in Russia right now!)
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Cosmic, worldly, erudite, and a whole bunch of other good adjectives - and he's always somewhere different - we could have a game called "where's cosmic badger?" - kind of like "Where's Waldo" - I'd bet he speaks like 10 languages (not including badger)
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What was the vine that came with the two Sting concerts. I screwed up burning the houston show and can't locate in my records what vine it came with. Thanky. DMTT
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was it Jerry Garcia/Sting 6/26/93 Vine ? The other one was Sting in Houston in 1997. The JG/Sting 6/26/93 was part of two vines at the same time. They came as "Extras" in the vine I am looking for.
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I'm pretty sure they were on the Sting Garcia vine at one time. I guess they may have lost their way at some point. This is what I still have: The Police, Budokan Hall Tokyo Japan 02-02-1981 The Police, The Bottom Line, NYC 04-04-1979 The Police, Miami, FL 05-04-1979 The Police, Complete" Synchronicity Rehearsals 07-22-1983 The Police, Ghost in the Machine Demos 1981 Sting and Garcia, RFK Stadium - Washington, DC 06-26-93 Sting, Superstar Concert Series
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The show came as master files from the SCS. And I had to break them up into tracks. It was my first attempt at this and I messed up.
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The show came as master files from the SCS. And I had to break them up into tracks. It was my first attempt at this and I messed up.
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I'm heading to the Great Plains for some Yonder Halloween shows tomorrow, won't be home until late Sunday night. So anything that may land on my doorstep in the interim (Neil Young Europe comp, 5 Garcia shows, etc...) will have to wait until sometime next week.
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Brand New Jerrydex posted in the Vindex forum. Long overdue project compiled in various aeroplanes and airports on my long journey home yesterday.
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Sorry it was not I who inserted the sting shows onto the First Anniversary vine. The show may have been added after it was given to the community. Peace Rick
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I am still here. The vine traffic has slowed down. Is there something in the water here at deadnet? Mind you, I'm just minding my own business and not bothering anyone or looking for trouble. :0) In the last 2 days, I have received hate mail regarding my political philosophies and love letters. Hope everyone has a great holiday season. "I do believe in spooks, I do believe in spooks, I do, I do, I do, I do, I do"--Lion Wizard of Oz
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It probably was not really "hate mail." :-) It was just like I have no business being here at deadnet since my philosophies go against everything the Dead stands (stood) for. :-) "I do believe in spooks, I do believe in spooks, I do, I do, I do, I do, I do"--Lion Wizard of Oz
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Considering the only true philosophy the Dead had was to allow everybody to do and be who were they were without judging. "That path is for, your steps alone."
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I'm sorry to hear that EDA. Care to let us know who is sending such nasty mail?
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Let's drop this. The post was not bad or nasty. Remember I also got a love note too--within 24 hours of each other. Seriously. I was just joking that something must be in the water. I did not want to start a discussion so I apologize for stirring the pot. I have a general policy to stay inside this vinyard where it is safe and not venture out into the woods where sasquatch lurks. It's a full moon--look at your calendars!
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Don't worry about it EDA. Some people are way too judgmental.. "I've stayed in every blue-light cheap hotel. Can't win for tryin. Dust off those rusty strings just one more time. Gonna make em shine."
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is safe and warm and cozy! "That path is for, your steps alone."
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:-) That's why I hang out here all the time. "I've stayed in every blue-light cheap hotel. Can't win for tryin. Dust off those rusty strings just one more time. Gonna make em shine."
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I have gone through the many pages of vines. Is there a flac Europe '72 vine? I see one that is not flac and some tracks have gaps between them. I'll check the vindex. "I do believe in spooks, I do believe in spooks, I do, I do, I do, I do, I do"--Lion Wizard of Oz
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I hate to bring this up again but be on the lookout for mail in your PM box from gloryph. He/she does not accept private PMs (how convenient) but only wants to communicate by e-mail (now that's a red flag). They just joined (another red flag), and the message sent to me appears to be a generic "love letter" message. I googled this, and low and behold quite a few folks have received gloryph's exact same message on other unrelated forums (flashing red lights). I suspect that gloryph has targeted other folks here at deadnet. I am not sure what the motive is (friendship...etc) but after discovering this, I decided to put out an all points bulletin. EDAD
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I do not remember a all FLAC '72. Are you going to do one? Let me know if you need any help.Peace rick Reach out your hand if your cup be empty If your cup is full may it be again
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that you can google our vines. If you type in all or part of the name and end it with vine, a lot of the come up as the second or third hit. I just thought that was kind of cool.
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and this would be a good time to remind folks that anything they post in the forums is world-readable, too...
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Hi everyone , after 12 hours a day for the last 3 weeks of training i had to take a week off. But I`m back and I do have sevral vines wich I am working on and will get them out as soon as I can . Thank you all for your peitients .
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I was wondering where you disappeared to! 12 hours a day of training?? Yikes! "I've stayed in every blue-light cheap hotel. Can't win for tryin. Dust off those rusty strings just one more time. Gonna make em shine."
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I didn't know where to post this, but since the vineyard is like my home away from home, I figured this was as good a place as any. Bill Walton was talking about the constant criticism he receives as a basketball analyst. He said that he was like St. Stephen: "Wherever he goes the people all complain." I just thought that was cool. "That path is for, your steps alone."
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If you ever listen to a game he works on tv, he is constantly dropping allusions to the Dead and to specific songs.... A few weeks ago on the occasion of John Wooden's 99th birthday, (the legendary coach of the UCLA Bruins), he called Wooden a "Saint of Circumstance" among other references. From this basketball fan's perspective however.... I think sometimes a little Dead-air would do him good! The man rambles! Finally.... met him outside the Spectrum one night.... he was getting out of a Lincoln and sneaking into a side door about 30 minutes prior to the show.... stopped briefly and chatted.... was a nice experience. Thanks. Raymond
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Well, maybe a positive sign. For all you "Facebooker's" out there you might get this more then others. I sent a Mark G. Stanfield in Louisville, KY a "Friend request" 6-8 months ago. He never accepted it, but in looking at my "live feed" (sorta like the Twitter aspect of Facebook) he posted "Mark G. Stanfield joined the group An Arbitrary Number of People Demanding That Some Sort Of Action Be Taken. I don't know why he showed up on my live feed, but it sounds like it could be him. "And I love the life I live And I'm gonna live the life I love"
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I had taged Mark as a yahoo IM contact like way back whenever it was . I was recentley checking my e-mail and a little smiley face poped up with his name under it . I sent him a im but he never responed to me . kinda strange . but life is full of strangeness .. you all take care now ..