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    The unexpected return of the masters of the Grateful Dead's triumphant show at the Albuquerque Civic Auditorium, November 17, 1971, yields great rewards. The Dead came in HOT for their first New Mexico show. Aided by clarity and precision and abetted by confidence and focus, they finessed old standards with definitive takes. With Keith now blending in seamlessly on keys, the first set offered up a triple shot of electric Blues, an exceptional "You Win Again," and a stellar "One More Saturday Night" to wrap things up. And the second set, well, it might just be unlike any you've ever heard. Archivist David Lemieux urges you to turn it up and do it loudly. We won't dare spoil all the surprises, but pay special attention to the rippin' "Sugar Magnolia," the aggressively monstrous "The Other One," and the highly-danceable "Not Fade>GDTRFB>Not Fade." Rounding out the 3CDs, you'll find selections from Pigpen's return tour at Ann Arbor, MI, 12/14/71. Subscribers will get nearly all of the complete show as this year's bonus disc.

    As always, Dave's Picks Volume 26 has been mastered to HDCD specs from the original analog tapes by Jeffrey Norman and is limited to 18,000 individually-numbered copies*.

    *Limited to 2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

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  • Angry Jack Straw
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    Sorry Vguy
    Your season appears to have unraveled in the span of about 10 minutes.
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    Seastones Revisited
    http://spiritcats.com/index.html
  • hendrixfreak
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    "Unlike anything we've ever done before".... meaning
    They've never really done a complete seasonal run for a box. May '77 wasn't complete, Europe was a tour, not "spring," and so forth. So the two seasonals possible in the '70s commercial sweet spot are Summer '73 (yay!) and Dave has said that a "fall '72" box is inevitable "at some point." I don't think Summer '76 would sell like '72 or '73 and they keep to that 1972-78 sweet spot for sales. They've really played out '77 and '78 within the past 2-3 years, presumably because there were many tapes in the returned cache from those two years. Thus, it was easy to put out a couple killer late '70s boxes and not dent the stash of rarer stuff. Admittedly, once they do a Summer '73 box -- defined by June-Labor Day -- that's a chunk of the chronology they cannot revisit. But it would give them a chance to lump an iconic show(s) -- Watkins Glen (great soundcheck, not stellar noon performance next day) -- with the hotter shows in June and late July/early August. 'Course, there'll be some screamin' in certain quarters, but I'll just put on the headphones and turn it up............
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    Current BPM?....
    ....like, 18.
  • icecrmcnkd
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    Wow Vguy
    Take some blood pressure meds.At least the 3 hour time difference allows you to drink a lot and still feel ok tomorrow at work. Of course, there are still 2 periods to go. Skull trip, my comments weren’t directed at you. Just making the point that GD was not a one-man show.
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    Re: JGB is not GD
    Of course the JGB isn't GD. I may have missed something in the thread, but I don't think anyone is making that argument. Two entirely different entities that share one key component. The Grateful Dead without Jerry is like a Rum Cake minus the rum. Still a great tasting cake, but one essential ingredient is noticeably missing. "Essential" being the operative word. No one is disputing the importance of the other band members. At least I'm not. But minus that one key ingredient, what you're left with is -- well, see my cake analogy above. And the only way the JGB would be indistinguishable from the GD is if Bobby, Phil, Mickey, Bill, Donna Jean, Keith, Brent, etc. comprised the band. And then, of course, they'd be the Grateful Dead and not the Jerry Garcia Band. So again, in my opinion, Jerry's contribution wasn't just unmistakeable. It was essential, whether he ever intended it to be or not. But totally agree -- what's the hold up on that Summer '76 Box Set announcement?
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    The question "why repeat 7/7/89 at MUATM?" reminded me of a shower thought from the weekend.DL2 had mentioned that they have a number of projects in process, one "unlike anything we've done before". This year's MUATM is a repeat and is accompanied by a box announcement. I hereby guess that the box announcement will be of a box containing all the MUATM shows both on CD and video. Actually that would make more sense if the repeated "movie" wasn't one that is available as an A/V release already...I begin to doubt myself... Jerry was certainly the center of The GD, but The GD was a web of people making a "sum greater than the parts". Bobby is my preferred singer/performer of the members, but I have not found myself willing to even try listening to a night of Jerry-less GD music from any of the post-GD configurations. Glad the boys are keepin' on and that they and the fans are enjoying it, but that ain't for me.
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    I had a similar experience with the the early post-Jerry iterations, though I actually did go to a lot of the shows. BUT i just was NOT feeling it. Phil & Friends had it's moments, as did Ratdog, but didn't;t ring the bell. Even Warren Haynes couldn't blow life into it - he wasn't the fit I thought he'd be. Then Further came along in 2009 - Kadlecik blew my mind, but then he was labeled a "Jerry ripoff" by Kreutzman and suddenly he was gone. I still catch him religiously when he rolls through Boston - the guy oozes that Jerry tone and vibe. Fare Thee Well was half-baked (woulda been great on their 20th+ show), but D&C has just the right formula and is getting better EVERY show. And Johnny Mayer helps pull in the wife/Gen Y crowd. It sure ain't the Dead, but man these guys cook. Can't wait to catch more of these shows from the couch.
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    THERE IS NOTHING LIKE A GRATEFUL DEAD CONCERT....
    ....period. There is also nothing like Stanley Cup playoff games. I measured my heartrate on my phone during the third period in game one. It registered 137 bpm. I think i had two or three minor strokes....
  • icecrmcnkd
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    What’s your dislike of FTW?Did you attend? Hate Trey? I stopped seeing Phish in 1998, haven’t paid them any attention since. But I thought Trey was great at FTW (even if a little more practice was needed), and he showed it again with Bob and Phil. Saw Furthur 2x in 2011, totally seemed like a GD cover band. But I still had fun. Have seen D&C 11/2015, 6/2017, and 11/2017. Had a great time every time, and they keep getting better. Definitely better live than live streamed. Can’t make it this summer but will try next tour. But D&C has never given me the feeling I had at FTW. But that in turn was a minuscule approximation of the feeling I got at GD.
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The unexpected return of the masters of the Grateful Dead's triumphant show at the Albuquerque Civic Auditorium, November 17, 1971, yields great rewards. The Dead came in HOT for their first New Mexico show. Aided by clarity and precision and abetted by confidence and focus, they finessed old standards with definitive takes. With Keith now blending in seamlessly on keys, the first set offered up a triple shot of electric Blues, an exceptional "You Win Again," and a stellar "One More Saturday Night" to wrap things up. And the second set, well, it might just be unlike any you've ever heard. Archivist David Lemieux urges you to turn it up and do it loudly. We won't dare spoil all the surprises, but pay special attention to the rippin' "Sugar Magnolia," the aggressively monstrous "The Other One," and the highly-danceable "Not Fade>GDTRFB>Not Fade." Rounding out the 3CDs, you'll find selections from Pigpen's return tour at Ann Arbor, MI, 12/14/71. Subscribers will get nearly all of the complete show as this year's bonus disc.

As always, Dave's Picks Volume 26 has been mastered to HDCD specs from the original analog tapes by Jeffrey Norman and is limited to 18,000 individually-numbered copies*.

*Limited to 2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

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Wasn’t a huge fan of that stuff, but again, by today’s standards they still rock!Like Ozzy cause he cracks me up; road trip show with Jack, his books etc But if you’ve seen the farewell concert/documentary The End, I think on showtime, they were awesome. It’s a shame touring sucks so much because a lot of these old goats still have it, like Phil!
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In fact, there have been a bunch of great docs and concert vids on the Telly the last few years...Sabbath, Clapton; life in 12 bars, Hendrix, Stones rellesead a few, Rush, know I still have a few others on DVR but forget?....and of course the F.T.W. shows, The Dead, and Weirs excellent T.O.O....
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There was a good one on telly here on Jeff Beck last week. Lots of clips from The Yardbirds up to recent concerts. He is as vital now as he ever was. I haven't bought his latest studio cd, Loud Hailer, but the blu ray Live At The Hollywood Bowl summer 2016 is superb. He is joined by various people on different tracks. All great, but the music played with Jan Hammer is dazzling. High hopes for London next month!
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-Grateful Dead Live at Madison Square Garden on 1988-09-18 Feel Like A Stranger-> Franklin's Tower, Good Time Blues, Big Railroad Blues, Memphis Blues, Stagger Lee, Promised Land Not Fade Away-> Scarlet Begonias-> Fire On The Mountain-> Women Are Smarter-> Drums-> Space-> The Other One-> Wharf Rat-> Throwin' Stones, E: Black Muddy River ...I always dig listening to this show, being from the garden and all, and it’s well know acoustics..., ...or how about these three shows in April 7,8 & 9th. :) https://www.discogs.com/Grateful-Dead-The-Centrum-Worcester-Massachuset…
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winner winner chicken dinner! oh, thats the song, not a movie....
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get another quarter outdrop in the meter mama try me on for size the guitar solo in that track is cool
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Two Oro's how can that be. From now on I will be known as Sir Garret Farseer... Dang lovin the conversation. Don Airey, seems I remember a documentary explaining a battle with him and Sharon Osbourne. I know Bob Daisley is credited now with helping write Diary of a Madman, but it seems like he Randy Rhodes and Don Airey wrote all the music to Diary. Seem to recall there was a dispute about royalties and such so Airey and Daisley and Kerslake the drummer were released. I know Sharon helped some with helping Ozzy deal, but I put her in the same category as Gail Zappa. The theme of this story is purely fictional and should not be confused with actual people places and events, real or fictional. Or something like that...
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Sweats be bangin.
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Yeah Gary, now we’re talking.Where’s my milk?
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No meet up at the movies this year?
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I have had the tape FOREVER and I, of course, bought the official release....I am going to have to go back and listen. That Jack Straw when I was in High School would get me so revved up because Jer just takes it, and takes it, and takes it. Higher, Higher, Higher, then BANG! Jack Straw from Wichita! Why would they swap them? and for which show is the Jack from GSTL 5/8/77 ACTUALLY swapped with?
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AcrosstheRio Definitely want to meet up for the ABQ Dead n Co show. I sent you a PM seeing if you wanted to meet up for Phil but you might not have read it. Get a hold of me! PM me and I will shoot you my number. Also, any other Colorado deadheads trolling around on here...PM me. I love an excuse for a meet up and why wait till show time? Strangers stopping strangers...
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Keep asking.. eventually someone will say yes. Gets harder and harder each year for me too. ...I'm bet they will crank out a meet up at the movies again. So what's it gonna be this year? There are some prime 89's yet to be plucked and I, for one, would be happy with a repeat of the Beat, 72. or how's this? 4/17 Amsterdam and the Beat. Or how about 71 Chateau d'Herouville? Wouldn't it be grand to announce the Box Set the same day? And what about Gainesville? Is Dave still feeling a bit under the weather?
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I always liked 5/9 the most of the three.. simply for the Help/Slip/Franks and the second set Other One, NFA, Comes a Time jam. In fact, on my drive home tonight I was listening to the Playing, NFA, Comes a Time Playing from 5/12/77 Auditorium Theatre, Chicago. It could be my favorite sequence from the Spring 77 Box v. 1. I honestly don't listen to that much 77 GD these days, primarily because I have listened to it to death decades ago.. but that doesn't mean I don't really like it. So many tapes, so little time. Edit: oh.. VGuy, I had 35 mm film of all the 77 shows, but my last gf tossed them at the same time she tossed all my ticket stubs. Ain't that a shame...
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That's not what she told me.
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Give them to me.. my ticket stubs and my 35 mm tapes of GD shows. I knew you had them all along.
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I sold them all to buy a Steal Your Face barstool from dead.net.
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When have you ever seen or heard a show opener like this H>S>F? Oh yeah. We forgot to play this last night at Cornell, so here you go. Unreal. I maintain that 5/7 has the best Bertha, Peggy-O and 1/2 Step ever played, but Buffalo is my favorite of the three.
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.... apparently Jimbo overdosed on Spring '77 awhile back. Sucks to be him. I was thoroughly in an Estimated vibe when a Spanish lady came by with a rose and took my hand out of nowhere. The rest is 5.9.18 history....
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I know Cornell gets all the hype, but Buffalo is my favorite show out of the sacred three. Gets regular play, especially on those scenic drives along the coast or out to the desert.
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...yeah but what’s gonna happen if ol Jimhas one of those flashbacks they warned about... Carful vguy, I’ve heard some things about her!
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Hey icecrmcnkd: Can you (or somebody), explain the story behind your comment that "the GSTL ‘5-8-77’ Jack Straw isn’t actually from 5-8-77."? I couldn't find an answer and can't stop wondering. . . Thanks!
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Good choices, and what about Hampton 89, that still kinda frosts my ass.We all know they had vid from all those tours. For the box price, you think they could of tossed in some vid. I still like how they did crimson, white and indigo; discs and vid in relatively simple package at reasonable price...... Like I was saying the other day; why don’t they have us pre-pay before they run production, that way they don’t lose money, and we don’t get shut out?
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Yeah, I’d like to hear that also Jeff! Your back, we were worried, last time you said things were starting to be contained etc, but weren’t outta the proverbial woods yet. Hope things have worked out?
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Wham bam thank you man, down on me in Amsterdam! Hey I'm listening to Bertha and I don't hear Keith. Did he sit songs out? Or is he playing the organ and Pigpen is sitting out?
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Whoooosh, always liked this one the best, but I’m no 77 expert, listed through Ship o last night, man what a solid first set,that H-S-F is definitely one for the ages. Like that the Franks doesn’t drone on too long, sometimes happens IMHO....
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Hey Oroborous....a Franklin's that DRONES ON???? I actually don't think that's possible. The licks are bouncy and happy and upbeat from start to finish! Add-in some pianer-tinkling and bass bombs and it only adds to nuance and happiness all the way to the final coda. I challenge you to rethink this borderline blasphemous statement. :D Sixtus
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Release the hounds.:D Is it the weekend yet? Aren't they going to announce the box set soon? Has Dave been replaced by a cyborg or vampire? Feels like Funky Thursday.
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Good morning Sir! First, I did qualify my premise with “ IMHO” which that and a dollar miiight get ya a cup of coffee. Second, I can certainly time some of the looooooooongish end choruses of Franks that never seem to end to make my point, not so much the song body proper...but why bother, the main thing is YOU Dig It, and enough so to call me out, so like someone (sorry, not much memory left ; ) so wonderfully said the other day, that’s what’s trully important, that makes YOU happy. Who gives a rats ass what I think! I’m just an old dog who misses shootin’ the breeze about the boys and the “good ol days” and perhaps, occasionally one of you nice folks will scratch my ears or rub my prodigious belly Wooof!
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Yeah, Jim’s right (again), what’s the new box, or Dave’s even, we need something new to wrestle with ; )
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It's always great to scratch that itch my friend. I'm just razzin' you anyway. I completely concur this is all just opinions and likes being shared, which gives wonderful insight across the ether into each kind soul on here who wishes to participate. And now that you are getting a little more precise, I can understand your point of view on the outros in there from time to time. It is perhaps in the same vein as 'Deal' from, say, '78, where they go on and on and on with the vocal coda - sometimes to the point where Donna's attempts to hit a higher vocal pitch ends up sounding like a banshee at midnight - but again just an opinion! I say, let the music play. And kick it off with a fine Help > Slip > Franklin's. Happy day to All. Sixtus
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It's all part of the delicate negotiations to free the North Korean "detainees." OK, hostages. Now that our citizens are joyously back on U.S. soil, other critical international business can soon follow. I ask you, what can be more critical than unleashing more transcendent GD music to soothe the pervasive bitterness, anger and anxieties currently floating around the globe? As Joseph Campbell once said, "the Grateful Dead are the best answer today to the atom bomb." And perhaps lots of other bad stuff. Carry on.
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...Great post!... :) ...pigpen 12/14/71 , ‘Mr. Charlie’ —- Love it! Then the, ‘Loser’ > ‘Next Time You See Me’ ... ;) ...sweet Suzy ;). ....
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By George old man I think you might be on to something there.....Perhaps when the revolution starts, they should lock all the power elite in a room with some high powered speakers, air-dose em, and not let em out until they listen to 30 trips, or E72, Spring 77 or ???.... Hell, they can bring em nothing but kind veggie burritos, falafel, PBJ and other usual tour chow.... Who needs the U.N. we got Bolo and the gang on it!!!
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5/9 was always my favorite of the three as well, mostly due to the H>S>F. However, I firmly believe this is the greatest version of Peggy-O of all time. Back in the day, I used to rewind my tape repeatedly just to hear that song.
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Ok, you almost have it, a little down to the, aaaaaaaaaa, that’s the spotHowwwwwrrrrrrrllllllluuuuuufffffff, pant, pant, Ok, time for a nap....
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Get the rope.. I love it. Nothing like a good old fashioned lynching to steer / keep the discourse on point. Burning and a Looting Tonight... _______________________________________________ Makes perfect sense. The North Korea connection to Dave and this Box Set. That explains the basement Release Video, Dave being in exile and Dave's strange change in appearance of late. It also helps explain some of the delivery times.. They are using Kim Jong Un's (Uni for short) 30 mph max, heavily armored train to deliver these things. My question is.. who has the master reels, or at least what country are they in?
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Complete 1980 September/October Warfield Theatre run. There were 15, three set shows, at the Warfield. If memory serves, much of the run was lost (or rather taped over) The box will consist of shows that fully remain intact. Probably a bad guess; just going with the 1980 Iran "hostages" clue or not clue from Bolo. Sam T
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Taking bolo's comment to mean that box set order date announcement is imminent. Avoiding political quagmire discussion, the proverbial olive branch... is dead.net ready to send Kim Jong-un a promo copy of DaP27? He could use more than a few miracles. Back to music. Let's warm up Jim's mower, shall we? Put in some high test, go back a ways? Thanks, Jim! A Korean War vet (connecting some dots here) rocked the world with his guitar, gets cred for surf music influence, moves to San Fran in the early 70s, jams out with John Cipollina of Quicksilver, he had to have been at some early Dead shows... It might get loud: Jimmy P chortles and plays air guitar to that vet's music. Pete Townsend said this guy was responsible for him taking up guitar. thanks for that sweet little sister Elvis clip (note James Burton there with his then rad red paisley telecaster!) brought to mind a Shawnee genius, so geezer or not, dial that mower back to '59... intro by Dick Clark, seemingly a cowboy tune with a 31 fret bizarre cutaway Danelectro: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fn5hl2IA7_s
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Thanks dmcvt. Link Wray! When you mentioned surf music (I know- I'll never hear surf music again) I immediately thought Dick Dale, forgetting about Link. So thanks for the Link. I'm a huge surf guitar fan....we recently (March 2018) lost Nokie Edwards, the Ventures guitarist. (But maybe the Ventures considered themselves an instrumental rock band more than a surf band...) Regarding the Elvis clip - I assume that's Ron Tutt playing drums for Elvis? I never saw Jerry with Ron, but I wish I had. Ron Tutt...backed up Elvis, then Garcia, then Neil Diamond. Wow. That's a lot of talented entertainers.
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Old man??? I resemble that remark!!!!
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Jerry plays some nice pedal steel on his "Guitar Preacher" album (All cried out, Tuscon, Riverbend)
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