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    The unexpected return of the masters of the Grateful Dead's triumphant show at the Albuquerque Civic Auditorium, November 17, 1971, yields great rewards. The Dead came in HOT for their first New Mexico show. Aided by clarity and precision and abetted by confidence and focus, they finessed old standards with definitive takes. With Keith now blending in seamlessly on keys, the first set offered up a triple shot of electric Blues, an exceptional "You Win Again," and a stellar "One More Saturday Night" to wrap things up. And the second set, well, it might just be unlike any you've ever heard. Archivist David Lemieux urges you to turn it up and do it loudly. We won't dare spoil all the surprises, but pay special attention to the rippin' "Sugar Magnolia," the aggressively monstrous "The Other One," and the highly-danceable "Not Fade>GDTRFB>Not Fade." Rounding out the 3CDs, you'll find selections from Pigpen's return tour at Ann Arbor, MI, 12/14/71. Subscribers will get nearly all of the complete show as this year's bonus disc.

    As always, Dave's Picks Volume 26 has been mastered to HDCD specs from the original analog tapes by Jeffrey Norman and is limited to 18,000 individually-numbered copies*.

    *Limited to 2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

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  • Cousins Of The…
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    I usually stay away from '83-'85; I can't listen Jerry's damaged vocal cords, 85 was the absolute worst for Jerry's voice; painful to look at as well...
  • Oroborous
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    Heres a thought. Has anyone ever considered that in some ways 77 and 87 can be seen as somewhat comparable...Musically speaking, the scene not so much although both were peaks in popularity and brought loads of new fish onboard. But both keep things pretty focused and extremely tight. Not much psychedelic noodling if you will.... Something different to bat around here....
  • Oroborous
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    Well said as usual Mr Jimmy
  • JimInMD
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    I get that too.. I was happy to see a couple raunchy barn burners on 30 trips - 10/12/84 and 9/18/87 come to mind. I have always been big on 85 for a few reasons. They really mixed up the song selection and setlists. There were a lot of break-outs and new songs added to the mix, I think there was a bit more consistency than 83 and 84. Finally.. the tapes, to me, sound just a little better. 84 (and 83) seemed to be a bit muddier.. not sure why. It was an interesting time in GD History.. perhaps it was as simple as they tried to put something fun and interesting together for the 20th anniversary. As for some of the other stuff.. hopefully we can move forward. ...if you get confused, listen to the music play.
  • Oroborous
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    Space, great comment, love that show...but who’s Kinger then, Fishman?
  • Oroborous
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    Sorry, just have to say who else but us/the dead would be contemplating the music being too pure....Man we are so blessed. “Oh, that show was too tight” hee-hee. Such problems... ; )
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    daverock, first have to declare that I love 85 partly because it was a real fun time to tour.My personal variables age etc., and the scene and energy and lets face it some of the a, extra curricular variables were through the roof. We were all (band and fans) often on the edge and so sometimes it could be amazing, and we’ll, sometimes it was pretty ugly...Hell there were times we weren’t sure Jer was going to make it, but there could be something about he/them being on that edge that often lent it self to the ol X factor...IMHO, it was sort of a peak before all the Touch craziness that almost recked the whole affair. It’s like the whole thing hit a level I don’t recall when we first started going to those one off I90 shows at the small War memorials back in the 70s etc. Hell those days shows often would barely sell out. Yes people got down, but overall the scene was more laid back, which is not a bad thing, it’s just that 85 was nucking futz! This is when Shakedown St. and camping and a whole “scene was building up” but one could argue it was like the Haight, where it was awesome, until it got too big and wasn’t.... Of course one could argue that we’re partially to blame for the scene getting too big and crazy, but it was a real gas until it got out of control....aaaa the hubris of youth. Used to think Weir was literal when he sang “too much of everything is just enough”, and maybe then he was, but now think maybe there was a wee bit of tounge in cheek perhaps. I’m sure Bob probably wouldn’t say, because he has often not commented on song meaning since a great song has many meanings, especaily in different context. Why Dylan is such a monster! But anyway, that Too Much vibe seemed prevalent throughout the whole scene.... I’m no t that informened comprehensively as far as tapes etc. but check out 4-7, 6-27, 6-28, 6-30 and 7-1-85 for some great shows...oh, everyone should sometime check out 7-13-85. One of best first sets ever, second set ok, nice little Cryptical, TOO etc thread.... Anyway, if you like raw and dirty definetlty at least check out some 85....
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    I liked the comments you made about shows that were perfectly well played, with no mistakes, as opposed to those which featured more seat of the pants jamming. I also prefer it when they take chances. I much prefer a show that has some rough edges, but has moments of real inspiration, as opposed to ones that are smoother, with less ups and downs. The smooth ones sound professional, but the rougher ones are where the gold is. Having said that, I don't listen to much from 1985. Maybe I should start.
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    True, nothing sounds better through "rose-colored speakers" than some caterwalling screaming during "Playing in the Band'. Margaret "Hot Lips" Houlihan's favorite. If I'm frank, than AJS is Hot lips. Of course, these millenials are proboblay wondering what this fuss about the M.A.S.H. business these elderly old farts refer too. Maybe we could step back a couple decades further slam each other with 'Lil Abner references next. Somebody quick, pass the Geritol. Fogey alert. So I gave a less than glowing review of the first set. It's one man's opinion. I think it's awesome if other people are getting much enjoyment from it. I've only listened once, so perhaps I'll have some more positive input upon further listenings when I decide to give a more detailed song by song evaluation. It wouldn't be the first time that a show didn't immediately resonate with me, only to become a favorite later. I listened to 5/2/70 immediately before 11/17/71, so part of my first impression was influenced by listening to one of the all time best shows. I'm sure most here would agree that 5/2/70 is a few notches better than 11/17/71. Especially 1st set comparisons. I still stick with the Ann Arbor portion being the superior show between the two. 12/14-15/71 may be among the very best of the entire year, next to Port Chester and FE from the spring. I'm sure there would be some agreeance there. Also, I didn't say I hated DaP 26. Just that the first set isn't as solid as the second set. Why that would be blown out of proportion into becoming an issue by the usual trolls is beyond me. Haters will be haters.
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    I’ll have to check out Phil’s treatment when I can, sounds cool. Hell one of my favorite “Dead” things has always been what they do with others music, much like good Jazz...Speaking of Del and the gang, been so fortunate to see them a bunch, and even opened for them once so got to hang a bit. Not only incredible musicians, but truly nice people....and man, if you ever get a chance to see the boys play round the fire, after hours, phew. These folks truly play for love of game like say MJ or Bruce Smith.
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The unexpected return of the masters of the Grateful Dead's triumphant show at the Albuquerque Civic Auditorium, November 17, 1971, yields great rewards. The Dead came in HOT for their first New Mexico show. Aided by clarity and precision and abetted by confidence and focus, they finessed old standards with definitive takes. With Keith now blending in seamlessly on keys, the first set offered up a triple shot of electric Blues, an exceptional "You Win Again," and a stellar "One More Saturday Night" to wrap things up. And the second set, well, it might just be unlike any you've ever heard. Archivist David Lemieux urges you to turn it up and do it loudly. We won't dare spoil all the surprises, but pay special attention to the rippin' "Sugar Magnolia," the aggressively monstrous "The Other One," and the highly-danceable "Not Fade>GDTRFB>Not Fade." Rounding out the 3CDs, you'll find selections from Pigpen's return tour at Ann Arbor, MI, 12/14/71. Subscribers will get nearly all of the complete show as this year's bonus disc.

As always, Dave's Picks Volume 26 has been mastered to HDCD specs from the original analog tapes by Jeffrey Norman and is limited to 18,000 individually-numbered copies*.

*Limited to 2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

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The circulating copies of the Betty from the storage locker all had the beginning of Jack Straw cut.The assumption is that it’s cut on the master Betty (although someone could have introduced that cut to keep their copy of the Betty the only good one). A year ago or more on the GSTL board some comments were posted regarding this cut and how it would be handled for the official release. It would be great if the Betty didn’t actually have the cut. I guess the only way to tell is to compare an AUD recording to the GSTL copy.
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Isnt Buckingham coming back next year? I thought he said something like he was not prepared or capable to tour right now, but not for ever. Hope that shines light that they are planning more big things as they have gotten older, probably less partying, and nothing left to do but smile and work. Anyone ever heard the live Buckingham Nicks album from 1974, Birmingham? I heard it on bootleg wow 34 years ago maybe. May have to order it, it is quite good. https://manassas31retrocd.com/products/buckingham-nicks-live-in-alabama… Didnt even know you could just buy it now. They were extremely popular in Bham at the time, seems like they sold out the Boutwell Auditorium.
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When the news first broke, I heard the source of the calamity was scheduling.. that they had this window to do the tour and he wasn't committing to those dates. So considering the stakes and the scratch involved.. they decided to tour without him. Who knows for sure, I bet it is more complex and I bet there is emotional content as well.. But your story overlaps with what I heard through the grapevine. All we know for sure is that he is out for now. Anyway.. I broke down and bought one (for now) ticket for Dead & Company.. Blossom, one of the finer summer swinging sheds. Try as I might.. I couldn't miss this summer completely.
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Jim, I am sure you are correct. Somehow my dumba$$ always forgets the extreme emotional component of that band. I still do not know how they could go through so much. I guess really hard drugs do numb the pain. Anybody got some?
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Preds suck.Next stop, the Vguy Knights. 5-10-72 Other One!!!!!!!! Got hockey on mute, well, now the signal has been lost and I’m just seeing the color bars. But I still got 5-10-72 playing.
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I wrote a couple years back that one of my interests that relates to music is "the gathering place of the crowd." Have also had a couple of side chats about it. That means I enjoy researching and reading and looking at old pics or footage of various theaters, arenas, coliseums, stadiums, etc. Blossom is one theater that I have researched several times. Always fascinated by its design; this started after the 85 show.
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Did someone mention the 5/10 Other One? That one's zambezi good.
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dmcvt; wow, not sure I’ve seen Link Wray before, rocking, thanks! Elvis: another great clip, pretty sure that’s Mr. Tutt, looks like em anyway. Probably my favorite Jerry Drummer.. Burning & Looting; Burn baby burn, Disco inferno, burn the mother down! NK box connection; ok, shhhhh, have from a deep but reliable source that yes Dave was actually how we got those three lads back from lil Kim....details still murky but there was some kind of exchange and something about lil Kim needs Dave to get him up to speed on the tunes etc, so he can bring the train over and go on summer D&C tour! I guess he got turned on to the festival express vid and it blew his mind.......so he’s wants to try for his own train tour... Better watch your speed!!! The question is, how will this effect the release schedule? Thin; that was not a negative comment, that was critical empirical evaluation, ahem, weeeellll yessss. As far as the rope, just as long as it’s quick and painless. I here there’s an awesome jam going on over there.... It’s BaaaaAaacccccoooon!: 7 pieces, as in the next box will have 7 pig tunes????? How about a pig box, complete with the demos of what’s available from that album he was working on... Scandal; lastly, anyone seen that bit in RS about the upcoming dead book (Fare Thee Well) that sounds like someone is going to shit talk and well, talk about stuff some of us have unfortunately already sorta knew...... Understand he only got to interview Mick and Bobby, just hope it’s somewhat factual and not just a big cash in. It would be a shame if Camelot was tarnished just for silver....
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Thanks Oro.. I won't be buying that one.. One review states, "This is an enthusiastic but clear-eyed and enjoyably gossipy piece of modern rock history. (June)"
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Yes, good Zamboni ice is a necessity for playoff hockey Checked the interwebs for some pictures of Blossom, and man, does that place look cool.
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I just love listening to Jerry Band versions of this song!!! All of them make me happy. bob t
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Silver & Gold, Silver & gold....good ol Burl GDTRFB Ives... “Like I told ya, what I said....”
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That's exactly what I said. The The Other One from Concertgebouw on 5/10/72 is zambezi good. The Dark Star from Rotterdam 5/11/72 is zamboni good. I think Dave's rant when E72 came out was that he was considering several mini box sets, The Netherlands being one of them. Part of me thinks that is the natural way they should have been released.. a Paris Box, an Amsterdam Box, a London Box, an England Box, etc.. but I'm content they decided to just main line us the whole tour in one giant box.. I think it was Chis Grand who used to post here a bit that first spoke of the elegance of the 5/10 Other One. I agree and couldn't have said it better myself. It's a masterpiece.
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Not an easy guy to like. Got a goal to make it close, but gave it back by not covering his man. One more period to go for my beloved Jets. Dumb penalties are making it challenging.
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....no matter if it's Winnipeg or Nashville, the winning team will soon be the losing team. I guess it doesn't matter anyway....sports vguy talks a lot more trash than Dead vguy. You have been warned.
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Looks like you will be facing my beloved Jets. The Stanley Cup is the most difficult trophy in all of sports to win. While your success in the playoffs has been impressive so far, you are only half way there. And now the competition is much tougher.
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I think it was Sixtus that sent me the free stream link to the first D&C Mexico show on Cinco De Maya. I watched it (2/15) .. then went back and played just the Playing in the Band opener and hit pause and went to bed. It was still working tonight. nugs.tv/free I bet they keep it up until they live stream it tomorrow night. And apparently tomorrow and Saturday they are pay streaming rebroadcasts of 2/15 and 2/17. You can get a package deal for both shows. If I were to steer or recommend.. get both shows and watch them. It will be worth the price just to watch Oteil sing Comes a Time (second night). The rest is superfluous, a bonus. They did a nice video homage to John Perry Barlow on the first night (who had recently passed at the time). Here are the setlists.. If you have a nice, accommodating system, give it a try. Oh.. and Jeff rocks. 2/15/2018 Barceló, Riviera Maya, Mexico Set 1: Playing in the Band Me and My Uncle He's Gone Cassidy Brown-Eyed Women Bertha Good Lovin' La bamba Set 2: Scarlet Begonias Fire on the Mountain Althea Estimated Prophet Eyes of the World Drums Space Looks Like Rain I Need a Miracle Casey Jones Encore: The Weight 2/17/2018 Barceló, Riviera Maya, Mexico Set 1: Shakedown Street Cold Rain and Snow Loser Jack Straw Easy Wind Tennessee Jed Sugaree Ripple Set 2: Viola Lee Blues China Cat Sunflower I Know You Rider Comes a Time Deal Drums Space Standing on the Moon The Wheel Sugar Magnolia Encore: One More Saturday Night
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....if I recall, you jumped on them because your first girlfriend, the Red Wings, didn't show up this season. I pay attention. Let the smack talk begin....
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The Red Wings bus broke down on the way to the playoffs. Everybody needs to rebuild at some point. Red Wings made the playoffs 25 years in a row and won 4 Cups during that time. The Vguy Knights have won 0 Cups. Don’t get too cocky with your beginners luck. Although, the whole city of Vegas is based on luck..... Also, yelling ‘Knights’ during the word ‘night’ of the national anthem was invented a few decades ago in Atlanta for the minor league Knights there. Copycats.....
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Yup. The Red Wings are my team and they have been spotted on various golf courses throughout the greater Detroit metropolitan area recently. However, as a newcomer to the sport, I will convey some of the established bylaws of hockey. 1. When your team fails to make the playoffs, you are allowed to adopt another team. Provided that the selection is made prior to the start of the playoffs and that said team is not an arch rival. Or pittsburgh. 2. Hockey geography dictates that the only truly acceptable teams in the NHL reside in Canadaland, east of the Mississippi river and north of the Mason Dixson line. The lone exception being the penguins, which despite the league's effort to promote them, are universally hated outside of their own city. Any teams falling outside of these boundries will be tolerated, but never fully accepted as a true NHL team. 3. No team in their first year will ever be allowed to win the Stanley Cup. Too much too fast, as someone once said.
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Just remember, the Red Wings USED to be the Prguins i.e., EVERYBODY hated them, but now they suck, so nobody cares, actually I think most people hate the Pens more ; ) Besides, it sounds like your all a bunch of fair weather fans........a true fan loves their team because their the worst team in the league, again! GO SABRES!!!
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....one of my favorite tie dyes back in the day. Wonder if Liquid Blue still makes them?
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GFar - don't even think about it; do it! Just do it. Just drop ten bucks and you get two great Dead & Company shows. The Saturday night show (2/17) was an absolute highlight for me personally (was tripping pretty hard starting about half way into the 21 minute(!) Shakedown). The entire show was MAGIC. I am looking forward to taking them both in again this weekend for sure. Jimmy you actually reposted the first night 2/15 which they streamed last week. I think you're missing the last night which was 2/18...and your DEW: SUNDAY FEBRUARY 18th ONE SAMSON AND DELILAH MISSISSIPPI HALF-STEP UPTOWN TOODELOO THEY LOVE EACH OTHER GREATEST STORY EVER TOLD IF I HAD THE WORLD TO GIVE RAMBLE ON ROSE BIRD SONG TWO ST. STEPHEN> FRANKLIN'S TOWER U.S. BLUES TERRAPIN STATION> DRUMS> SPACE> THE OTHER ONE> MORNING DEW> NOT FADE AWAY E: BROWKEDOWN PALACE> PLAYIN IN THE SAND Happy streaming and overall listening, people. Sixtus
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Okay I'm a day behind can, but hippie chick, to answer your question about Keith on Bertha, no I've never heard of him sitting out on songs, nor playing the organ in 1972. He did play a little bit of organ in late 71 after he joined. I believe there are some tracks on Dave's Picks Volume 3, Earthquake in the Phil Zone. What I found while working on my Ph.D in Europe 72, is that Keith was not always Audible in the mix. On some shows he's very much present, in other shows you wonder if he's even in the band. It's a tragedy, I know. It was long rumored that Jeffrey Norman was rushed to engineer this box set. Sure enough, a couple of years ago, the great mr. Norman himself came to this very message board to discuss some comments that have been made about what many thought was a significant Improvement in the sound quality of the Dave's Picks releases. He thanked everyone for their feedback, and it was in that Exchange that somebody one man in particular, asked him about whether he would want to have a do-over with the master tapes of Europe 72. Mr Norman said yes he would love to. I took that to mean that he acknowledges some inadequacies. It is also very obvious to me that the liner notes 4 the April 24th show deliberately talk up Keith God shows contribution to this particular show. And the history of course, is that this show was engineered and released years before the year of 72 box set, and that's the mix that they used. So, what I clean from all this is that he had plenty of time to get Rockin the rhein just exactly perfect, Keith is high in the mix, and this is the mix that they used for Europe 72 box set at least 4 the part of the show that includes Dark Star and sugar magnolia I've compared those side by side and with the exception of slightly different placements of the track markers, there's no difference in the audio. I know of one man who did a little more analysis and determined that part of that show was remixed for Europe 72. But my point is, and I apologize that I'm taking such a long time to get to it, but I'm driving right now, is that they know that Keith is low in a lot of these mixes, so they talked up the show where he was best represented add an audio level, which is April 24th. That is plenty of Babel from me. Good day sir! Or I'm sorry ma'am. The hair under the arms distracted me a moment. Not that it's a bad thing. You wear it well:D One pleasant anomaly about this May 10th show at 420 Amsterdam Street, is that there is extra reverb, which sounds good. Not so much on the vocals but definitely on the guitars.
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Ha, I remember that hockey/dead shirt too! I think my favorite one however was the Space Your Face shirt (think I even still have it somewhere)...which I'd post if I remembered how to do it... Speaking of Hockey, I'm a flyers fan so not much to root for right now. I'm probably going to root for Vegas though since it's a pretty cool story. Has any first year team ever gotten this far in their first year? Anyone even close? I think the Marlins won the World Series in their 4th year of existence but can't remember anyone else doing it that fast
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I won't bore you (or everyone else) with a repost of my lengthy comment on the Sabres. I grew up a Sabres fan and was there for all the playoff games during the ill-fated run to the cup in 1999. Ultimately, I was forced to change allegiance due to utter incompetence and mismanagement in the front office. I just like the Red Wings style of play. Plus they have one of the coolest jerseys in all of sports, along with the Blackhawks. But, Chicago has that punk Patrick Kane, so I can't root for them.
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80’s Fan - Is my avatar the shirt u speak of? I got it in Hartford @ The Other Ones show in 2000 Rock on
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yes that's the image (mine was on a red/yellow tie-dye). will have to dig it out this weekend - kids will get a kick out of it (or be horribly embarrassed)
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AJS, just pullin your chain. But sounds like you know a little about being a Buffalo fan, poor bastard! 2 cups, a few conference finals, 4 straight Super Bowls.....”got no chance of losing, this time” That’s why I love the dead so much, almost always came out a winner! hbob; always liked those. Used to sell a bunch of those when I worked for NFA back in the day....
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Pull all you want. Doesn't bother me a bit. Not as much of a Bills fan as I am (was) a Sabres fan. Nevertheless, it's been a tough go for that city. Even Cleveland feels sorry for them. The best thing that ever happened to that town was 5/9/77. What does BILLS stand for anyway? Boy I Love Losing Superbowls I also never understood why so many people in impoverished countries were Bills fans. Then I was told that all of the pre-printed hats and shirts that read "Buffalo Bills Superbowl Champions" were donated to charity. Can't sell them here.
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Now you look here... That banjo footage was used by Justin in the Backstage Pass. It was included as part of the bonus disk in the All The Year's Combine DVD package. Have not watched that in a while. I like the whole documentary that Justin did. Cheers to you Justin! I really like the segment featuring Billy and Mickey, just really interesting sequence. I have it cranking now. It is really aging well.
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it's Friday and I don't care who knows it: I love Post Brent
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I totally love Post-Brent as well. I have a problem, though. I enjoy most work from say 65 through, oh, 95 or so. Can't get enough of all the different bands they were. If you get tired of one era for the moment, shift gears to a different year or decade all together. Different band, different execution, same kick ass rock and roll. They definitely went downhill after Brent but that isn't to say there aren't some fucking solid shows afterwards. I LOVE the Europe '90 tour more than is healthy. Don't let the haters get you down. Not all of us of course but there are some whiny ass dead heads who can't just let others enjoy what they enjoy.
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that's usually what I do cosmic david. right now I'm going through a thorough comb thru of post brent and looking for upgrades. so it will be nothing but post brent from here on out for awhile.
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....5.11.72 Rotterdam or 5.11.77 St. Paul? Both outstanding shows. If I was off today I would have spun both. But I wasn't. So I flipped my coin from the Spring TOO box. ....I will play this at setbreak. 5.11.92. Garcia/Grisman acoustic https://youtu.be/Hq101oAZXjM
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Just last night I noticed that the complete 9/20/91 Second Set is in my iTunes library. 1/4 of my library is Dead (11.2 days of it), but only have a few complete sets on there. 2/13/70 and 5/8/77 Second Sets are there, but not many others. And thus, big props to 9/20/91!There is 4.5 hours from the Boston 9/91 shows in my library, a good indication that I think a box set of Boston 9/91 would be outta sight! My other favorite post-Brent box idea is a Albany Knick box: 1 show from each year 90-95 (no visit in 94). This would include a Brent show, a unified S90TOO quality version of 3/24/90, but would otherwise be all post-Brent. of course there is the box o' 90s Dark Stars idea...
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