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    "To my ears, the best Dead shows are those that not only fit the criteria that make them amongst the best of a year, but that are also completely unique for their era—shows that fit perfectly into their year of performance, but also fall somewhat outside of the norm for that year. Harpur College, Veneta, Cornell, Cape Cod, and Augusta are all shows that are objectively excellent, and if they are not the best from their respective years of performance, they are certainly unique. Miami 6/23/74 falls into that category: not only one of the very best shows from this outstanding year, but also one of the most interesting and unique. It’s certainly worthy of many, many deep listens." - David Lemieux

    ¡Ándale, ándale! ¡Arriba, arriba! We're back with a hot one from Miami, F-L-A. DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 34 features the complete show from the Jai Alai Fronton, 6/23/74, one with unparalleled sound quality due in equal parts to the Wall Of Sound and the beautiful sonic clarity of Kidd Candelario's tapes. The first set is chock full of dynamite takes on classics like "Ramble On Rose," "Mississippi Half-Step," and "Cumberland Blues." The second set delivers on the JAMS - one leading into a gorgeous "Ship Of Fools," one rare instrumental version of "Dark Star," and a "Spanish Jam," this is Miami after all! The show also offers up a "first" and an "only" - the former, a Seastones set featuring Phil and Ned Lagin and the latter, the sole Grateful Dead performance of Chuck Berry's "Let It Rock."

    Limited to 22,000 numbered copies, DAVE’S PICKS VOL.34: JAI ALAI FRONTON, MIAMI, FL 6/23/74 has been mastered from the 7.5 IPS reel-to-reel tapes to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman. ¡Agarrarlo mientras esta calientito! (Get it while it's hot!)

    *Limited to 2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

    Subscribed to Dave's Picks? With this release, you'll also get a bonus disc with selections from Miami 6/22/74. Excellente!

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  • CaseyJanes
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    You are correct sir about the Bm...also a Dm and Dsus2 according to Ultimate Guitar Tabs on the “Official Version”. I love the above mentioned app. Has most every song that you can think of and usually there are many versions to play so if you’re not quite getting one arrangement there is usually a way for guys like me to dumb it down a bit. That said I need to add those chords on UJB as they are in my range. Will also try the riff....I have a little pentatonic game as well! (I’m guessing there)

    For the record, and if memory serves, I do believe I’ve seen youtube of you playing WilfredT, and you are an excellent player. I’m like a wanna be campfire player at best, but it’s more fun then a frog in a glass of milk.

  • Oroborous
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    Hola Senor Janes

    Good to see ya!
    I think Bob was alluding to what I’ve heard/read all of them say over the years; it got harder and harder to get the band (especially Jerry) to rehearse and some of those songs you just couldn’t do well without rehearsal: LS, Cosmic Charlie, St Stephen etc. Unfortunately another side effect of ole Jer Bears monkey...especially when you consider how hard many of Jer’s parts were on these songs...it’s a bummer but no wonder many of the greats were set aside.

    GUITARS & CADDILACS; used to play all the time. Tried to play guitar for ten years, occasionally professionally, once in the studio....switched to bass and rarely looked back. Did try the solo acoustic/apre thing briefly, but wasn’t that good and it’s really hard carrying the whole show by your self. And Scarry! Don’t have that front man Mojo either “star waaarrrsss, nothing but staaaarrrrr wwwaaaarrrsss” much prefer to play with 3 to 5 people, the interaction is where it’s at. But the rush of playing in a hot band in front of a bunch of people IS uncompareble....talk about a high!
    But yeah, I preferred being in the back row under the dark lights grooving on the Bass. Played that professionally on and off for 20 years, last ten it was my main, though not only job...It was a gas, but after 100-150 nights a year, often at shitty bars and clubs, when your feet are killing you and your back can’t take that heavy lumber anymore, we’ll sometimes it’s a double edge sword doing what you love for a living....unfortunately haven’t really played in like ten years now. Had to TRY and grow up and get a real job....plus after I got booted out of my main gig, eventually all the calls stopped coming as it is a small, close knit group that gets the gigs here.
    I truly miss it in my minds eye, but I don’t miss schlepping that heavy ass gear at 3 in the morning, or getting hassled by the law, or trying to get inspired when your back hurts and it’s late, and there’s only 4 drunks left, but I do miss it.
    GUITARS
    - Ibanez Muscian Series I got in 79 and modified with Alembic circuitry/pickups in 84.
    - Madeira Acoustic
    - 84 Alembic Spoiler 4 string electric Bass
    - Michael Kelly Club Deluxe 5 String Acoustic/Electric Bass. picked this up early century when I was playing a lot to get upright sound etc. Never spent enough on upright to be proficient as it’s physicaly painful, and it’s a drag trying to play live with a loud band. I liked the sound I good get with the Kelly and a Sans Amp tech 21 Acoustic DI. It’s made for Acoustic guitar but works awesome for the Acoustic Bass. Seceret is the adjustable mid....
    shit, ramblin again, sorry, fun topic. DAVEROCK sportin’ the Bobbie Dazzler! Nice axe bra! My guitar teacher always played and sold Gretches. Wish I would of got one, but wanted a Bob Weir Ibenez so bad. Almost had one but got the Muscian series instead. I’ve seen pictures of both Bob and Jerry playing one but not sure what show (s)? Think it was around when Bob was first using Ibenez?

  • wilfredtjones
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    There's a B Minor in there somewhere...I think after the G. The riff is fun, too! Don't forget to learn that :-)

    Thanks for sharing info. on your guitars, too. I also have a '96 Washburn (D-20 in Koa). My brother just bought his first guitar, a Seagull S6... :-)

  • Oroborous
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    6/22/83 source

    Yeah I think that’s the same source as I had. As I say at the time it was definetly my best sounding tape which in those days wasn’t saying much, but this one shined! Great show too, and looks like it must of been a great place to freak freely from the news clip.
    So my buddy Doug hooked up with some dude who either was doing the taping or ? Not sure I really knew, but they knew WTF they were doing, had like Nac with sennhieser mics and were usually low generation and near that quality.
    I had the best gear so most of my friends/cousins would bring their new tapes to my house for coping etc so I’d usually get decent generations. Some shows better than others depending on where they were located. Remember, this was before taper section so some diehard pros would poach in front of board, which sometimes was awesome, other times too loud or tone unbalanced etc...
    Anyway, we start getting some killer 83’s, probably end of year I’m guessing. Unfortunately I never got the source guys info and next thing you know ole Doug’s knocked up the bosses daughter, whose family is super religious so shotgun wedding and no more fun for ole druggles, poor bastard! And no more tapes for us! Dooaah
    Funny part was he got our band to play his ultra conservative wedding, but’s that’s a whole nother story for the bonfire....

  • CaseyJanes
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    Hey all, COVID seems to have me busier than I’ve ever been with both the wife and kid working and schooling here at the cave...so I’ve just been lurking here lately on the site, but I have to jump in on a good guitar convo.

    Dennis, I’ve read that 1983 is right around when Gibson started producing great acoustics again, shifting back to some of the methods that they used on 60s flat top guitars. I would love to play that Hummingbird. I’ll bet it sounds awesome, and from knowing what I know of you, it is probably very well cared for! I just recently learned UJB. It was surprisingly (to me at least) very easy to learn and made up of only 5 basic chords (G, D, C, Am, Em) which are some of the first chords (and easiest) that most guitar players will learn. Rhythmically, the toughest part of the song IMO is probably in what would be considered to be the chorus....that is the part that goes “whoa-o what I want to know is ______________....there are some quick chord changes in that line which take some practice, but all in all, not to difficult. That said, singing it and playing at the same time for me is much more difficult. I have only recently been able to incorporate some singing along with my playing and I have been playing for more than 20 years. Some of that I think is confidence factor of worrying about what others think I sound like, which I really don’t give a shit about anymore, but the other part is that rhythmically it is not easy to learn, especially if the song has difficult chord phrasing. Did anyone hear the Bob Weir Shakedown interview from Friday night? He had some interesting comments about Lost Sailor and the reason it didn’t stay around for too long in the bands repertoire. Too difficult to play and the other band members didn’t want to spend the time on it. And we’ve seen that LS has only recently been brought back into D&Cs repertoire. So this got me thinking about the progression of Bob Weirs playing ability. Of course it’s widely know that Bob was nearly kicked out of the band early on because of complaints about his guitar playing. And to be fair he only started playing guitar at the age of 13 and then met Garcia just 3 years later. And any player is going to experience some plateauing, especially early on. That said, it make me wonder if the shift in style on WMD and AB were at least partly made in efforts to help with this handicap as the arrangements are much simpler and back to the basics. (Here is a quote from wiki on the subject:
    “The incident apparently led to a period of significant growth in Weir's guitar playing. Phil Lesh said that when drummer Mickey Hart left the band temporarily in early 1971, he was able to hear Weir's playing more clearly than ever and "I found myself astonished, delighted and excited beyond measure at what Bobby was doing." Lesh described Weir's playing as "quirky, whimsical and goofy" and noted his ability to play chord voicings on the guitar (with only four fingers) that one would normally hear from a keyboard (with up to ten fingers).[13].

    Cousins: what kind of guitars do you own? What gets the most play? Based on your bands genre, I’m going to guess a Fender Telecaster?

    Here are my guitars:

    1). 1996 Washburn Limited Edition Acoustic
    2). 2017 Gibson Les Paul High Performance in Cherry Red Sumburst
    3). Seagull Artist Studio CW Deluxe Element
    4). MJT Custom Telecaster build that is aged vintage relic...Taos Turquoise over 3-Tone burst
    5). Rhino issued Grateful Dead Dancing Bear/Stealie ukulele (don’t really play this one just decoration
    6). I also recently ordered a Taylor GS Mini Koa Plus E with edge burst on my 4 years zero interest Sweetwater card. I needed a good travel guitar and this one gets phenomenal reviews....can’t wait!, but sshhhhhh! Don’t tell Mrs Casey!

    -the one I play the most (currently) is the Seagull...most accessible hanging on the wall right next to the couch in my living room. It has a pick up so I can plug it in but I rarely do as it projects nicely anyway. It as a solid Sitka Spruce Top, with Solid Rosewood back and sides, Mahogany neck and Ebony fingerboard, gold vintage tuners. It’s a beautiful guitar that sounds just as good as it looks.

    Oro - Great repo car story...had me LOL as usual! For those interested, I promise to finish my Gorge story very soon. Fell off the wagon on that one, but the details are still there. Anniversary is also fast approaching....bummed I can’t do the repeat as I planned for Boulder in July...hopefully we can get back at it soon!

    Doc - Great to read your regular posts again. Glad you’re back.

    Be Well Dead People!

    KCJ

    Led Ded: just read your post...couldnt agree more. No better hobby and incredibly gratifying when you are able to overcome a plateau....repitition and practice....I’m at least one hour a day usually early mornings or later at night!

  • LedDed
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    Yes, some of us really play...

    I am a guitar freak. I have about two dozen electrics, two acoustics and a couple basses, untold effects pedals and several amps. I actually do pick up those instruments with my two hands and play the shit out of them, every day, sometimes only for a half hour and other times all day long, esp. on weekends.

    It's the most gratifying hobby I've ever known. When you start out, you suck and sound like shit. Over time, you learn other people's songs, chord changes, scales, etc. One day you find yourself sitting there with a drink and wailing along to "Layla" at full volume, kicking ass and blending right into the record. And then, you start coming up with your own stuff. Some people eschew covers and play as themselves right off, but if there's a kind of music you like, learning that stuff gives you a toolbox of techniques from which to start doing your own thing.

    You get out of it what you put into it, practice practice practice. I don't really practice so much as play, but you hone your skills through repetition and hours devoted as you pick up new things here and there. One of my favorite things is to crank up a "Big River" like the one on One From The Vault, and wail along with Jerry. He was so good in his prime it's sick.

    I'm not in a band. I have a straight job and a family (and a mortgage etc.) However now and again getting in a room with other musicians, especially with drums present, and turning up is as much fun as it looks. Unfortunately it looks like a bleak time right now for anyone struggling to make it as a musician. First album sales were destroyed by the internet and bands had to depend on live concerts and merch sales. What are they going to do now?

    A long time ago, I might have leaned that way, but I'm glad I went with the straight job, keeping the guitar playing on the side, pure artistic expression with no strings attached or record company bullshit. Last, anyone who's always wanted to learn to play the guitar, go buy a decent one and get after it! If you keep with it, it will reward you more than you can imagine.

    \m/

  • Deadheadbrewer
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    Did someone say, "Saint Paul"?

    LOVE that show from '77 (AND the Saint Paul show from the 1978 box), but cannot allow myself to get distracted from my E72 studies. I still need to finish Bickershaw AND Amsterdam, then get to Rotterdam on its anniversary today. The back-to-back concerts on this tour make things difficult . . .

    I didn't get into Grateful Dead until I was 21 (1991), but if I had been born ten or fifteen years earlier, I would have attended those old MN and upper-midwest shows.

  • Cousins Of The…
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    Hey Dennis, I'll take your Hummingbird if it's lonely :-)
    I play guitar in a band(Western Swing/Honky Tonk) , although not sure when we'll be able to play out again this year.

  • Dennis
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    Just got DP29 in from Real Gone Music. I never bought any of the DP's when they were coming out, my buddy was getting them and sending me copies, money was tight and what the hell. In the end, wish I had bought them all as they came. Now I'm too cheap to pay some of the prices I see for complete sets, and the wife would never understand :-).

    I have to say for anyone who hasn't bought these real gone music releases, they did a nice job on it. At first blush I thought the bonus tracks weren't included, but though not listed, they are there. It was 60 bucks from amazon (got a price cut before it shipped!) So maybe I'll look into getting the real gone collection,,,,, if it's cheap enough :-)

    Dave the Rock and the Gretsch - I know Dave's not the only one on these boards who has guitars AND I know absolutely NOTHING about guitars or playing. But I looked up your guitar and yeah, pricey things. The demo's online made it sound very nice. My question, can you really play? I've met many people over the years who have instruments of all types, played "in my youth", they can still strum a few basic cords, but really can't play. I have a Gibson hummingbird my wife gave me back in 83-ish, why, I have no idea. Maybe she thought I develop unknown talents. I told it's a nice guitar, quite a few people have strummed it over they years and say "very nice". But one night at the store a customer who came in all the time (doctor of some sort), had just bought a new hummingbird, asked me bring in my old one. Bastard sat down and knocked out UJB off top of head. Blew me away. BTW - said my old hummingbird was much louder than new ones.

    So Dave, do you play? Also other folks out there, do you really play? I believe some of you are in bands?

    Just curious.

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    The bonus disc is simply amazing! Classic songs/jams and the sound is superb. This was a GRATE addition to a magnificent show. Thank you Dave!

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"To my ears, the best Dead shows are those that not only fit the criteria that make them amongst the best of a year, but that are also completely unique for their era—shows that fit perfectly into their year of performance, but also fall somewhat outside of the norm for that year. Harpur College, Veneta, Cornell, Cape Cod, and Augusta are all shows that are objectively excellent, and if they are not the best from their respective years of performance, they are certainly unique. Miami 6/23/74 falls into that category: not only one of the very best shows from this outstanding year, but also one of the most interesting and unique. It’s certainly worthy of many, many deep listens." - David Lemieux

¡Ándale, ándale! ¡Arriba, arriba! We're back with a hot one from Miami, F-L-A. DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 34 features the complete show from the Jai Alai Fronton, 6/23/74, one with unparalleled sound quality due in equal parts to the Wall Of Sound and the beautiful sonic clarity of Kidd Candelario's tapes. The first set is chock full of dynamite takes on classics like "Ramble On Rose," "Mississippi Half-Step," and "Cumberland Blues." The second set delivers on the JAMS - one leading into a gorgeous "Ship Of Fools," one rare instrumental version of "Dark Star," and a "Spanish Jam," this is Miami after all! The show also offers up a "first" and an "only" - the former, a Seastones set featuring Phil and Ned Lagin and the latter, the sole Grateful Dead performance of Chuck Berry's "Let It Rock."

Limited to 22,000 numbered copies, DAVE’S PICKS VOL.34: JAI ALAI FRONTON, MIAMI, FL 6/23/74 has been mastered from the 7.5 IPS reel-to-reel tapes to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman. ¡Agarrarlo mientras esta calientito! (Get it while it's hot!)

*Limited to 2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

Subscribed to Dave's Picks? With this release, you'll also get a bonus disc with selections from Miami 6/22/74. Excellente!

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My UPS tracking ends on 1st May when the package was transferred to the post office and assigned a different (USPS) tracking number. This confirms receipt and processing of the package on 1st May at the USPS Los Angeles Distribution Center. Then nothing until it arrived in LA on 20th May and departed from LA Airport to the destination two hours later. Not sure where it was for the missing 20 days (in lockdown??) but hopefully be with me in the next few days.

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My discs also look pristine. Since we are in a similar boat, let's compare our limited edition numbers and see what happens.

For DaP 1 I Have Number: 9920/12K
DaP 2: 2295/12K
DaP 3: 233/12K
DaP 4: 10195/12K

Listen carefully, sometimes the scratchy static plays underneath the music. Also, I have radial shreddings or shavings dropping off the edges of the discs.

In my experience, (as I think, Seth first mentioned) the first and last tracks seem to be the most affected. Also it has been my experience, the worst case scenario (which happens with 2 of my discs) is the disc won't be recognized by the player.

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The USPS system told me it was out for delivery on 1st May and then again on 20th May. Since we are both five days behind SIMONROB let us hope that we hear that his copy has arrived soon. No worries yet. An earlier DaP arrived and left L.A. three times before eventually arriving in the UK. The three departures were within days of each other but they were simpler times.
I got quite excited when a package of the correct size was delivered this morning but that was a delivery from the Another Timbre label in Sheffield. Still It means I’ve got five albums of interesting music to listen to while I wait for #34. Stay safe, listen to music and as Lady of Tarot (she might have been removed by now) said read.

EDIT: The package has left California. I’ve just had a USPS update telling me it has left Salt Lake City at around 9:30 this morning. I’m not that good on geography but I assume that means it is moving slowly eastwards.

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Talking to my buddy in Jersey last night and we got talking about disc rot. When hurricane Sandy left 6 foot of water in his house, his dvd/cd collection was submerged. He said they all delaminated! I was shocked, I would have thought a piece of plastic would be watertight, maybe not.

Reminded me of Springsteen -

…. Sandy, that sea water you left on my cd's last night,
Cause them all to turn to shit, in their cases that night.

Willy T - Radical Shreddings, isn't that what JoAnne Chesimard does with her old bills?

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Dave's Picks #1, 4625 #2, 4042 #3, 8979 #4, 1895. When I say this is no big deal in my previous post, I'm saying that relating it to my own personal experiences in life, some bad and extremely sad stuff has happened to me and everybody else on this forum I'm sure, so when I compare those things to this, it's no big deal. I don't for a second think that this was done with the record company thinking that this was an outcome that would occur. Hopefully, this was something related to the manufacturing of only the first 4 and this problem won't happen to the rest of the Dave's Picks. It seems like most people on here who have played theirs back have no problems, so that's good!

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If someone has bad discs, I can mail some lossless copies or assist with a Dropbox share. Thankfully my first four DaP seem to be in fine shape.

VGuy (and others)--You should pick up the new stereo mastering of Sgt. Pepper's (and The White Album, Abbey Road, and Let It Be). Many remasterings make you say, "Yeah, that's incrementally better . . . " The semi-recent Pepper's makes one slack-jawed, and gives one that ooey-gooey feeling in the pit of the musical soul.

Rhino--a great company, in my opinion. They sometimes take a beating on this board, but please go take a look at their catalog. All they do is go the extra mile to locate the master tapes of fantastic, long-neglected niche albums that won't sell a ton of copies, then spiff those tapes up with good remastering and packaging. Rhino is a company of music lovers, selling to music lovers. Very few companies in an age of streaming/downloading/pirating would step up to the plate and say, "Yeah, let's put out lavish BOXED SETS of CDs that have 15-80 discs inside! Cool."

Be kind. Rewind.

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I'd have to agree with you about Rhino providing access to niche albums we might otherwise only dream of. If only Rhino followed through with proactive, responsive customer service, we'd probably spend more time around here talking about Rhino's glass being more than half full (and the music, of course!). Onward.

Agree with all points.. we are a passionate bunch when it comes to the music we love.

Was looking for something this morning to listen to and stumbled on this by accident. A nice palate cleanse and an excellent bluegrass cover of Loser.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hbhe8Aw_FnU&list=RDocOeF1KOMM4&index=2

Thanks for the positive perspective Jeff and DHBrewer.

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Nice Loser, looking for show on archive now.

“Ooey gooey felling in the pit of my musical soul” ...YEAH, that’s what I’m talking about!
You sir, are a wordsmith!

Nice post, agreed, but it’s such a travesty to cheese out on materials that cost pennies in bulk, BECAUSE they did all those groovy things you mention! They do all the hard stuff top notch...discs should be the easy part.

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disc rot beats dics rot

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....is doing an Ask Me Anything tomorrow on Reddit. 7PM pacific time.

the previous two post, one about disc that don't last an hour. The other about tapes, caught in a FLOOD, stored like shit and still working!

Maybe we should have kept all those old Maxell's :-)

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Haven't picked up the 50th Anniversary mix of Abbey Road yet, but I do have the 50th Anniversary remixes of Sgt. Pepper's and of The White Album and they sound fantastic. The music is the same, the remix is faithful to the original mix, but cleaner with more clarity and separation of each sound. The documentary Soundbreaking has a great episode (Episode 2) that covers the recording of Sgt. Pepper's and how they would record the various sounds and then combine them onto a single track so that multiple individually recorded sounds would be placed on a single track which would subsequently be combined with other tracks and distilled down again into a single track. For the 50th Anniversary remixes they went back to the original source tapes for the various sounds and made use of modern multi-track capabilities to remix the album without compressing everything into one track so things that were combined onto a single track are now spread across multiple tracks using the original source material. You can really hear the impact of this on the tracks with lots of different sounds mixed in. My description is a little sparse, but if anyone is interested the Soundbreaking documentary is really cool, particularly the episode that covers the making of Sgt. Pepper in detail, and there is a lot of other information out there on the process that Giles Martin used for the 50th anniversary remixes.

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Stolzfus.. too funny.

I still have a box of tapes too. I have no idea where they are though...

Stoltzie.. can you help us find the missing reels? Start with the barn in California but be cautious.. the owner might just be a greedy and grumpy butt munch.

Perhaps we can ask Betty if she knows the address of the infamous barn tomorrow on the meet and greet on Redit.

I believe there is one more stash of tapes that needs to find it's way home.

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After processing at an LA Distribution Center (May 1-May 21), CD has departed LAX on May 21, 8:16 pm.
Airborne right now, good News.
G.

...hello again I have to say , we(the Fans & The Dead Org. are all very blessed to see these recordings back home in the vault where they belong. IMO. And more importantly being made available and released to the fans by the Grateful Dead! Dead / Dave, didn’t wait long to start releasing’Bettys reels& others.
Have a grateful day everybody as well as this holiday weekend! peace be with you all my brothers and sisters God bless! and rock on!
💀🌹
...starting my day first with the Grateful Dead’s release, ‘Dick's Picks Volume 19’ The album contains the complete concert recorded on October 19, 1973 at the Fairgrounds Arena in Oklahoma City, Oklahoma.
***Each volume of Dick's Picks has its own "caveat emptor" label, advising the listener of the sound quality of the recording. The one for Volume 19 reads:

"Despite a rather skeevy ouverture, the sound quality of this release quickly settles into a nice, warm groove. Listen closely, however, for you may just find that your mind will be blown by the music contained herein."

... I have to Concur, this performance will most likely , “Steal Your Face Right Off your Head!”
A+ Recording by ‘Kid’ and a Primo set-list to boot!
The ‘third’Disc(3 Disc release)
Is one of my favorite music recordings from the Fall of 1973! PRIMO the band is on fire! 💀🌹

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and be a better example for the kids, who I'm encouraging to get rid of some things . . .

But just could NOT toss out the two Foreigner cassettes (Double Vision and Head Games) I found last night! They are Columbia House editions, complete with the double-pink-line spines and poorly-rendered tiny cover art. I enjoyed the tape clubs much more when they switched to sending "real" copies of cassettes and CDs.

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GRATEFULGERD
It might be in flight, but how far will it get? As I said yesterday mine flew out of L.A. on 20th then departed from Salt Lake City on 21st. No further updates yet. It looks like it will continue to take a long strange trip.

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Colin Gould,
I assumed it'll be on a direct flight to Frankfurt.
Tracking now says: Departure LAX 11:25 pm, before it stated 8:16 pm.
A bit of a strange trip.

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While I like the remix of the White Album, I wasn't impressed with the Abbey Road remix; but really, why did anyone feel that these albums had to be remixed? They were already perfect when they first came out, George Martin knew what he was doing when he produced them. Glad they left Rubber Soul and Revolver alone...

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I have been eyeballing The Beatles Super Deluxe editions of Sgt. Pepper, White Album and Abbey Road.

Are they worth it?? Any opinions?

I would be getting the cds and not the vinyl becuase I do not have a turntable. Although I have thought about getting a turntable again when room and money allows for it.

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...I have both the “Peppers” & “The White Album” most recent release from the Band & Record Company.
I absolutely LOVE the ‘White Album’ release with the “rehearsal -demo”-recordings being issued for the first time , and are absolutely Primo unreleased recorded Audio before going head first into the studio so to speak.
I still preferred my Beatles “white Colored-vinyl” release from back in the day as my go to album for the white album. But the new release is great work! I really enjoy this new mix.
This is Promo!!! Oh yeah, 1989!🙏❤️💀🌹
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=VnCvS2A7REo

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I had my doubts about the Sgt. Pepper's remix when I first heard about it but based on the positive comments and reviews I was curious enough to pick up the remix even though I had the original (1987?) CD and the 2009 remaster. I don't regret it nor can I say that I regret having 3 copies of one of the greatest albums of the 20th century. Well, four copies if you count my 1970's vinyl copy. The 50th anniversary remix just sounds like the original mix with a layer of gauze taken off your ears. But, I hear what you guys are saying, and Sgt. Pepper's is kind of an exception, I don't really pick up new copies of albums I already have when they've been remastered or remixed, and the remix idea does generally cause some trepidation. I usually end up picking up remasters when they have good bonus content, like the Rolling Stones deluxe Sticky Fingers release which includes a version of Brown Sugar with Eric Clapton, or Layla and Other Love Songs by Derek and the Dominoes deluxe release which has a second disc including appearances recorded on the Johnny Cash show that are fantastic. To relate it to the Dead, I don't need another copy of the studio albums, I have the original CD's plus the box set remasters, but there is no way I can miss the bonus content on the remaster packages, so soon I will have another copy of Workingman's Dead to go along with the three CD copies plus vinyl copy that I already have. I am also inclined to consider remasters for things that I got in the late '80s and early '90's as it seems there may have been some improvements in digital mastering since then. You can find endless debate on the merits of various remastering efforts on the SteveHoffman threads. By coincidence, I am currently spinning the 2014 Houses of the Holy remaster - not much better than No Quarter sometimes.

To be fair, I have bought quite a few albums three times-typically, the vinyl in the 1970s, then again first time it was released on cd. And the second time when it was released on cd after it had remastered. Now we are getting anniversary editions, and I am starting to think ...hang on a minute..If I buy this latest edition of Working Mans Dead, with its live carrot, it will be the 4th time for me.

I agree that Sergeant Pepper is different. I first got the album in 1974, then the original cd in the mid 1990s, then the remastered stereo one about 2009, then the mono box set with it in, then the 4cd blu ray/dvd box set for its own 50th anniversary. This includes the remix, the mono and outtakes. Its easily my favourite Beatles album. I didn't bother with the remixed White album, and I'm not fussed about Abbey Road or Let It Be.

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.....glanced at Amazon in regards to Sgt. Peppers (my second favorite Beatles record after Rubber Soul). Holy cow!! I had no idea there were that many versions. I need to get out more. Which should I get? Help me dead.net-kenobi, you're my only hope.

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...Don't think of it as buying Workingman's Dead for a fourth time, think of it as getting a free copy of Workingman's Dead when you buy the 2/21/71 Port Chester show.

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Recently read that McCartney plays the snarling lead on booth the sergeant pepper opening track and the reprise. I was only surprised for a second. I remember reading that he modeled the aggression for Helter Skelter after the who's I Can See For Miles. I guess he plays the guitar on that too. They really mixed it up a lot when it came to who played what.

I think this Uncle John's Band on the new Dave's Picks is one of the best of 1973 1974. I'll have to go revisit Dijon. I'm also really into black throated wind, especially the outro. Jerry plays some really busy lead work, but it's mellow at the same time . Bobby sings this real well too at the end. He had a phase where he would..... over sing it a bit.

The Jam is really good too. The way I look at it, this dark star doesn't have the lyrics and the Dark star from the Philly 73 show is too short. So I just go Jam => Dark Star Jam => Philly '73 Dark Star.

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Thanks Keithfan very interesting you mention that

Recorded in several separate sessions in studios across two continents, the recording of "I Can See for Miles" exemplifies the increasingly sophisticated studio techniques of rock bands in the late 1960s, such as those used for the Beatles and the Beach Boys. The backing tracks were recorded at CBS Studios in London, the vocals and overdubbing were performed at Talentmasters Studios in New York, and the single was mixed and mastered at Gold Star Studios in London.[6] The initial UK mono pressing (Track Records) and the US Decca single has an overdubbed second bass line mixed upfront, whilst the drums are mixed slightly lower.

It reached number 10 in the UK and number 9 in the US. Though these figures would seem successful to most bands, Townshend was disappointed. He had written the song in 1966 but had held it back as an "ace in the hole", believing it would be The Who's first number-one single.[7] He is quoted as saying, "To me it was the ultimate Who record, yet it didn't sell. I spat on the British record buyer."

The song may have inspired the Beatles' "Helter Skelter". Paul McCartney recalls writing "Helter Skelter" after reading a review of The Who Sell Out in which the critic claimed that "I Can See for Miles" was the "heaviest" song he had ever heard. McCartney had not heard the song but wrote: "Helter Skelter" in an attempt to make an even "heavier" song than the one praised in the review.

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Went back and listened to 6/14/76 again today and man is that an awesome show, perfect to go along with a sunny afternoon. Still haven't had my fill of that box, and 6/14/76 just hits the spot for me.

Currently listening to Khruangbin's Hasta El Cielo album and that is working well for a chill vibe later in the evening - mellow, psychedelic ambient dub flowing along nicely. I've also been having this tune Hell n Back by Bakar running through my head lately since I heard it on the local radio - sort of a retro soul kind of sound with a nice updated vibe.

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Nice reframing of Working Mans 50th. As a package, led by the studio album, I'm not sure it works - a live show with the studio as a bonus readjusts the balance favourably.

Going back to Paul McCartney - it was he who played the coruscating guitar solo on Taxman, too.

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Are any other UK subscribers still waiting for 34 to arrive? Obviously these are unusual circumstances, but I'm now wondering where it might be.

Don’t panic yet. I don’t think any European commenter has mentioned getting #34 yet. It will be slower because UPS handed the package over to USPS in LA and despite USPS saying that they dispatched the item on 1st May they didn’t send it far. It has been reported being dispatched from LA again on either 15th or 20th May by various people. I wouldn’t start to worry for another couple of weeks unless lots of Europeans start reporting the arrival.

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...if it’s “new” , I’m interested. After that notion I start with Art Production & Produced & engineered by; to help me make my decision for rebuying an Album. Also reviews play a big role, Both Negative & positive thoughts!
And the must haves, For example, any Elvis release, lol ha ha...”thank you thank you very much!” That’s my best Elvis voice! Lmao

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I see some people's tracking updates indicate some activity around 15/16 May, even 20 May.

However, mine on UPS has nothing since 30 April, which was an update stating "package transferred to post office", while USPS similarly has the latest tracking status on 30 April.....but theirs states "awaiting item".

Are other UK customers' DP34s apparently still stuck between UPS and USPS three weeks after despatch?

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The liner notes state that Ned Lagin plays on some of the 2nd set...I've heard this release several times now and I'm not hearing it. Maybe I'm just spacing out at the exact right/wrong time. Can someone point out when and where Ned shows up?

-Remixes-
Jerry basically says in this interview -- about 8 minutes in www.youtube.com/watch?v=8JOhtcJCjXA --going back and changing a performance that already exists is strange....and is kinda like going to a museum and painting over a picture. And I agree that it is usually strange. Beatles Revolver got remixed somewhere along the line...the version that is on Spotify is weird, and I find it jarring. An original vinyl is the best way to listen to that album (The UK Version). As we all probably know, the Dead did go back and change Anthem of the Sun and Aoxomoxoa. The differences on Anthem of the Sun seem pretty minimal to me. I gave both a hard listen when the 50th aniv. set came out and I wasn't able to pick a winner. I've listened to both mixes of Aoxomoxoa a lot and I do prefer the 2nd mix of that album, but that's one of the 1st Dead albums I ever bought and I was turned on by that mix. Grew up with it. So, it must be tattoo'd in my soul, or whatever. I do like the original mix of What's Become of the Baby. All of the extra sounds make it a little more digestable, I'm sure a lot of you are the exact opposite. If I was around and was a fan when they first release Aoxomoxoa, I assume I would like the 1st mix better.

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