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    "To my ears, the best Dead shows are those that not only fit the criteria that make them amongst the best of a year, but that are also completely unique for their era—shows that fit perfectly into their year of performance, but also fall somewhat outside of the norm for that year. Harpur College, Veneta, Cornell, Cape Cod, and Augusta are all shows that are objectively excellent, and if they are not the best from their respective years of performance, they are certainly unique. Miami 6/23/74 falls into that category: not only one of the very best shows from this outstanding year, but also one of the most interesting and unique. It’s certainly worthy of many, many deep listens." - David Lemieux

    ¡Ándale, ándale! ¡Arriba, arriba! We're back with a hot one from Miami, F-L-A. DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 34 features the complete show from the Jai Alai Fronton, 6/23/74, one with unparalleled sound quality due in equal parts to the Wall Of Sound and the beautiful sonic clarity of Kidd Candelario's tapes. The first set is chock full of dynamite takes on classics like "Ramble On Rose," "Mississippi Half-Step," and "Cumberland Blues." The second set delivers on the JAMS - one leading into a gorgeous "Ship Of Fools," one rare instrumental version of "Dark Star," and a "Spanish Jam," this is Miami after all! The show also offers up a "first" and an "only" - the former, a Seastones set featuring Phil and Ned Lagin and the latter, the sole Grateful Dead performance of Chuck Berry's "Let It Rock."

    Limited to 22,000 numbered copies, DAVE’S PICKS VOL.34: JAI ALAI FRONTON, MIAMI, FL 6/23/74 has been mastered from the 7.5 IPS reel-to-reel tapes to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman. ¡Agarrarlo mientras esta calientito! (Get it while it's hot!)

    *Limited to 2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

    Subscribed to Dave's Picks? With this release, you'll also get a bonus disc with selections from Miami 6/22/74. Excellente!

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  • #2141
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    74 burn out?

    I don't think that's it, this show has been around for years, everyone has some kind of copy of this show, bootleg or archive release or downloaded from etree, or an old tape maybe, but most of us have a copy of this show. This could be the reason it's not sold out yet, with so many of us deadheads at home, this should have been sold out in hours, but it's not. I would love to see an 80's show for 35 (1980 is one of my favorite years). Or a fall 72 show, or a europe 81 show (Barcelona) or europe 90 show, or a killer 69 show. So many possibilities, so much to chose from, Dave has a difficult but glorious job.

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    Re. partial 'recycling'

    I, for one, would not at all mind a full show such as 6/18/74, of which I have the Road Trips excerpt edition, containing some 'recycling,' being released as a DaP or otherwise, as it would be a supreme official selection as a complete performance, and may benefit subtly (or more) from potential mastering advances since its release. Can't think of any other examples off the top of my mind right now, but a full epic show should NOT be held back as a release due to previous official excerpts. Well, actually one example- this Miami show!! I'm so glad that the fact that a bit of it got released on So Many Roads did not prevent its official release. For '74 in particular, I've been thrilled by nearly every release so far in this or the other series.

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    Thoughts on future releases...

    I see a couple themes to Dave L's madness in selecting releases, some he has stated, others I (think) I observe.

    Dave has said that the prevalence of a certain tape among collectors would not keep him from releasing a show for which he has a master in good shape. To wit: Red Rocks July '78, Cornell, '77, etc.

    When Dave sees a rarity roll in with returned tapes, he's sometimes quick to release it. When MG returned some tapes (I believe this was the stash), Dave "swiftly" (within a year or so?) released 4-18-70 of acoustic Dead with a solo Pigpen set. I'm trying to think of another example.... maybe if I remember correctly DaPs 6, 10, 19, and 30 (late '69, early '70) -- call that an example where returned tapes got released over a pretty long span of time. Not sure whether the Warfield acoustic sets released for RSD last year were always in the vault or were "returned tapes." I'd guess the former, as I think we heard they were the only complete acoustic shows still extant.

    Dave has several means of delivering small surprises: RSD, vinyl (damn I want that polished up Oct '68 tape going out with the "graphic novel"), and the 50th anniversary re-releases.

    On that last front, the tracks offered on the 1st LP (an entire '66 show), Anthem (a full set from Anthem's formative period) and Aoxomoxoa (various tracks across three nights). Also on the rerelease of WD and AB long ago, Dave released individual, related tracks from a much longer span of shows. Wondering what he'll do with 1970's scarcity of tapes regarding the upcoming re-re-release of WD and AB.

    DaP series offers an opportunity for relatively random picks, while the boxes have ranged from multi-year set at Giants Stadium to the PNW theme (another location-based selection) to the relatively recently returned June '76 shows. Another relevant element, to my mind: Dave is, however loosely, keeping an eye on long stretches in which no tapes have been released, so to fill in the historical record -- where possible, while ignoring mid-80s perhaps due to recording quality. Yet he also has to keep his powder dry by conserving a few '67, '68 and '70 tapes that he'll want to sprinkle over the years. He doesn't want to run out of a certain year, though he's obviously milked early '72 for all it's worth with the Academy compilations and the E72 box.

    So Dave likes to mix it up. And getting legal clearances may be a long-term project, ala 6-10-73.

    Plus, consider the wealth of material that Dave has at his fingertips. There are multiple written guides to the choice shows, he has a confidential circle that includes Blair Jackson, Nick Meriwether, David Gans, etc. for suggestions. And as Dave navigates the vault, he has to consider which shows might be held back for a box and which runs will be divvied up for individual DaPs.

    Sheet, he must be having fun. Throw in the video archives and Bolo's occasional teases. Bam, that makes our guesswork nigh impossible. We also don't know what's in the vault versus circulating tapes. But in some cases we do. There are some unplumbed depths in that vault. Two are early-mid April '71 and Sept-Oct 1972 (hint hint).

    Any thoughts, anyone?

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    Thanks Unkle Sam for the nice post on Earth Day and some background on the Jai Alai Fronton. Its been a beautiful spring our way and have been spending a lot of garden time these past few weeks in the isolation mode. Nearby plant nurseries closed, so no tree buying for now, but I do have 2 or 3 peach pits that I want to plant, and today would be a perfect day. They came from another volunteer peach, a tiny little tree. Last year it had a few peaches, and they were quite possibly the best I've ever eaten. The flesh was an incredible magenta color, like nothing I've seen before. We don't get peaches every year because of late frost, but fingers crossed. From the photos I've seen Jai Alai Fronton looks like an absolutely wild venue to have seen a show, especially a Wall of Sound Show. So far I haven't seen any photos of the WoS from these shows, maybe there's some with the release. '74 always high of my list, totally psyched. Now just need for Dave to set free the International Amphitheater show from July!

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    It was nice to hear Dave say there is still plenty of top notch stuff left in the vault....with no end in sight. Hopefully plenty that I’ve never laid ears on. I do hope we get 4/17/71 someday soon! Pigs best show in my opinion.

    Dave’s comment did get me thinking. At what point do you guys think we will start to see recycling of previously released material? By this I mean, the release of a full show that has already been partially released. Example would be a full show release of 6/18/74, any of 74 farewell shows, or 9/19 or 20/90. Yes the Dark Star > US Blues from this Show is on SMR, but only 19 minutes. So, I don’t think this one falls in to that category.

    Part of me would welcome it so I could have the full show. Another part of would feel somewhat taken advantage of.

    Thoughts?

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    To go along with what Billy posted... Spring 77 tour

    Started today in Philly 43 years ago!!!

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    This show would make a great release. It could be released at the same time as 2/17/79, another great show. Keith and Donna's last show, released with Brent's first show. Both of these shows are winners.

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    Wow, not sold out yet

    Did Rhino find the right number of copies, or is there 74 burn-out because of the PNW Box?

    Well, if that 80’s pick for DaP35 sells out right away we’ll know that it is 74 burn-out.

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    Earth day and Jai Alai

    First off, Happy Earth Day everyone, looks like the earth is getting a break this earth day, maybe the only good thing about the virus. Being a retired horticulturalist I have planted my share of trees and shrubs and flowers and this virus is not going to stop me from doing what I do every Earth Day, plant another tree. Lately I have been planting fruit trees, apples and cherry and peach, but in the past I have planted many a different kind of tree, from ornamental trees to flowering trees to oak trees, it's all good, they are the front line in keeping the atmosphere clean. I usually buy a tree from a nursery or garden center, but this year, I have started an apple tree from seed and it is now late enough in the year to take her outside and plant her with her other brothers and sisters that I have planted in the past. Yes, it's a little baby, but from this one seed, I will get a beautiful, flowering, fruit producing tree in about 7 years. Seems like a long time, but when I look back at the other trees I have planted, and enjoy the flowers and fruit from them, I know that eventually, this one will also produce flowers and fruit if not for me, for others to enjoy for years to come. It's easy to start a seed, just takes some patience to get it to the planting in the ground stage, but it is worth it when years down the road, you get to bite into that beautiful fruit.
    I have had a copy of this Miami show from 74 for years, having lived in Florida for over 38 years, I have seen some shows in a Jai Alai Fronton, just not this show. I caught Little Feat with Lowell in 78 at the Fronton in Orlando, caught U2 when they were unknowns at the same Fronton in 79. The Fronton in Miami is the largest one still operating and seats about 5100 people. What a great place to see a show and I can imagine this show was a real killer. The playing area is surrounded by 3 very tall walls and the audience looks on from the side with the front of the court being to the audiences right and the back of the court to their left. The three sides of the court are padded which makes for great sound acoustics. Back in the 70's I knew some guys in the service who bet on these players and they had a system. They would watch the players, they would give "tells" of who would win and in what order by bouncing the ball in sequences like 2 bounces, then hold, then 3 bounces, etc... They had spotters in the audience that would take these ques an run with them to the betting window and place their bets, winning some pretty good sums of money. If you knew these guys, you could get in on the fix, if not, it was all just luck to pick a winner and very seldom did a novice win. How my friends did it was they would watch the audience and the betting window, usually these spotters would come up and bet at the last possible minute and if you were behind them in line, you placed the same bet as they did. Worked for my friends more than 50% of the time. Of course, that was 40 some years ago and most of those old cheaters are long gone now. It was a very fast game and it could be over before you knew it, just that fast sometimes. That ball was very hard and if it hit you, you knew it, hence the Cesta was made out of wicker and had a padded glove on the inside to take the sting out of fielding that ball. Saw a few players get hit with the ball, you could tell it hurt, it would put those guys on the ground. After a while, the sport lost it's charm for me and I quit going, but it was fun for a while. I prefered concerts in those little arenas ever since. This is a killer show, and the bonus disc is the cherry on top, and that limited edition t shirt is very nice, love the back design. This shirt will sell out in no time, along with the remaining discs. I highly recommend this show and the shirt, get them while you can.

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"To my ears, the best Dead shows are those that not only fit the criteria that make them amongst the best of a year, but that are also completely unique for their era—shows that fit perfectly into their year of performance, but also fall somewhat outside of the norm for that year. Harpur College, Veneta, Cornell, Cape Cod, and Augusta are all shows that are objectively excellent, and if they are not the best from their respective years of performance, they are certainly unique. Miami 6/23/74 falls into that category: not only one of the very best shows from this outstanding year, but also one of the most interesting and unique. It’s certainly worthy of many, many deep listens." - David Lemieux

¡Ándale, ándale! ¡Arriba, arriba! We're back with a hot one from Miami, F-L-A. DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 34 features the complete show from the Jai Alai Fronton, 6/23/74, one with unparalleled sound quality due in equal parts to the Wall Of Sound and the beautiful sonic clarity of Kidd Candelario's tapes. The first set is chock full of dynamite takes on classics like "Ramble On Rose," "Mississippi Half-Step," and "Cumberland Blues." The second set delivers on the JAMS - one leading into a gorgeous "Ship Of Fools," one rare instrumental version of "Dark Star," and a "Spanish Jam," this is Miami after all! The show also offers up a "first" and an "only" - the former, a Seastones set featuring Phil and Ned Lagin and the latter, the sole Grateful Dead performance of Chuck Berry's "Let It Rock."

Limited to 22,000 numbered copies, DAVE’S PICKS VOL.34: JAI ALAI FRONTON, MIAMI, FL 6/23/74 has been mastered from the 7.5 IPS reel-to-reel tapes to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman. ¡Agarrarlo mientras esta calientito! (Get it while it's hot!)

*Limited to 2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

Subscribed to Dave's Picks? With this release, you'll also get a bonus disc with selections from Miami 6/22/74. Excellente!

Would be the next best thing from 1980 (and probably the best possible), as, alas, I think the masters from the Warfield/RCMH are no more.

6/20 & 6/21 were mainstays of my tape collection.

Plus, as I love Althea, 1980 shows are always welcome. Some real interesting lists, too.

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Submitted by KeithFan2112 on Fri, 05/29/2020 - 19:22

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The Utica show has the WRS intro into DS. I actually just got to it. I had to put my headphones on backwards because Jerry's on the right and Keith is on the left on my copy of this show. It was driving me bananas. It's like Closing of Winterland - backwards.

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Submitted by wilfredtjones on Sat, 05/30/2020 - 03:40

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Checked out the setlist to Utica and realized they also did the WRS Prelude into Dark Star a week later in Springfield. I wonder how many other times they tried that. Anyway, isn't that the 'Scooby Doo house' show? DaP 16? :-) Maybe I'll try and give that one a spin today.

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Submitted by Lovemygirl on Sat, 05/30/2020 - 04:01

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...Ithica 73’, Excellent show, thank you for sharing! Love the ‘Box Of Rain’ , Phil is just amazing as usual but performed with such beauty it instantly made me Smile Smole SMILE!
I have a log cabin in Delhi, NY, that’s where I used for “Homebase while on tour in the cat skills NY right along the Delaware river! Beautiful! 🙏❤️💀🌹
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Submitted by Lovemygirl on Sat, 05/30/2020 - 04:20

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..hello Dave , check to see if the “Police” LP I sent you. It was sealed when I sent it to you, Did you happen to open it a give it a spin on your record setup?

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Submitted by Mind-Left-Body on Sat, 05/30/2020 - 05:07

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A name blocker feature would a nice feature for this site.

I heard Dave's 30 again after a few months rest. With the exclusion of the Dark Star medley and The Other Ones does anyone else find the performances lower caliber than other 1970 shows that they released? The sound is great. They don't sound so "tight" as usual. More missed lyrics than usual. Both UJBs are mediocre sounding. They just sound a little less mind blowing than typical 1970.

No, I am sorry to say I never did open it. It was nice of you to send it, but I never cared much for them back in the day. Maybe I should give it a spin. Although there are a heck of a lot of other things on my playlist !

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Submitted by pkb on Sat, 05/30/2020 - 06:03

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I love those shows. It’s funny hearing it may be officially released when that trip was spoken about in Billy’s book.

“As for the three-nighter in Anchorage, the only thing I remember about those shows is that they were in a high school gymnasium which, believe it or not, is not the ideal place for a rock concert. For one thing, the room was sonically unsound — it was one big echo chamber. There was nothing to soak up the sound and the back wall was terribly close to the stage. Every time I hit the drum, I’d get a report back. Every beat bounced back. With two drummers going full-throttle, it was an acoustical nightmare. All told, those gigs couldn’t have been that great.”

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Submitted by Angry Jack Straw on Sat, 05/30/2020 - 06:07

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I actually enjoy the release. Yup, it’s a bit more mellow than most 70 shows. The Dark Star and Alligator are the highlights for me. I certainly like the release a lot more than DaP 10 from a few weeks earlier.

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Submitted by JimInMD on Sat, 05/30/2020 - 07:11

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Big fan of that release as well. Carving out the DS suite.. well, many of these releases have a segment that makes the release, leaving the rest less remarkable. I agree, there is enough other stuff that pulls this one along nicely. Hard to Handle and Mason's Children come to mind, the Bonus Disc is a nice add. In fact.. it's due for a refresher listen.

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Submitted by Lovemygirl on Sat, 05/30/2020 - 07:56

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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=9BXcaeyarPY&feature=share&fbclid=IwAR3B99…

... Here’s a little something that’s extra special for this grateful Saturday in A grateful gift for all,
I hope you all enjoy it as much as I do!
Wow I just noticed it was my anniversary yesterday, April 29th, I became a member & poster after being on the sidelines enjoying everyone’s contributions to this grateful forum/ Grateful Dead Website! I’m still grateful to still be apart of this beautiful group of members! Thank you all for being you! Peace be with you all! Be kind be safe! 🙏❤️💀🌹
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=9BXcaeyarPY&feature=share&fbclid=IwAR3B99…

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Submitted by KeithFan2112 on Sat, 05/30/2020 - 08:51

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I agree the UJBs are not 5 star.... trying to think of what's left once you take away the Dark Star medley and The Oher One x2. I like the fact that Midnight Hour is on it, albeit a bit slower than the Ladies & Gentlemen version, which is my personal favorite. Also a fan of Alligator. For the most part though, I have not given the rest of the songs on DaP 30 a close enough listen to weigh in. Maybe time for a refresher here too.

As far as 1970 releases go, I listen to the High In Hawaii Dave's Pick quite a bit. That being said, the release has a whole disk 3 full of bonus tracks from the next night, half of which I tacked on to the front of the main show; so I basically cheated and made one big show out of it. I also removed Yellow Dog Story and the Casey Jones that got cut short after a minute (that drove me nuts). The performances on this one are all rock solid, although Dark Star is not all that interesting to me. Has the only Feedback I like.

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Submitted by Lovemygirl on Sat, 05/30/2020 - 10:34

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... just thought I post this in case anyone is interested in this release from the legendary grateful dead dicks pick series!
Available July 10th
Heres one place;
https://www.amazon.com/Dicks-Picks-Oakland-Coliseum-Arena/dp/B007ZIMB1G…
...being a late era dead performance, IMO, Jerry is just Amazing on this release and the bonus tracks are a grateful Treat for fans!
Rock on! 🙏❤️💀🌹

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Submitted by Oroborous on Sat, 05/30/2020 - 10:47

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...we need em living in a world where the police murdered a man, and their defense is he wasn’t healthy enough to be strangled for 9 minutes....like if he didn’t have underlying health issues being strangled for 9 minutes for doing nothing would of been otherwise ok? WTF is wrong with people?
Yeah, keep the love train running folks as someone has to put some positive energy out there to balance out the darkness. Funny, some things never change...”the futures here, we are it, we are on our own”

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Submitted by Charlie3 on Sat, 05/30/2020 - 11:05

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Funny, I was thinking similar thoughts as I was listening to the 1971 album What's Going On by Marvin Gaye yesterday. Time moves on, but humans repeat the same cycles in a generational march, with each generation thinking the next is the end of civilization as we know it. Time moves on, but humans stay human and humanity contains the darkness and the light, the evil and the good. But for right now, I'm just spinning the DaP 34 bonus disc and diggin' that PITB while marveling at the annual Ponderosa Pine pollen dump - nothing like wondering why your nose and throat are irritated and walking out to see every surface covered in a layer of fine, yellow pollen thick enough to scrape into little yellow piles. In the wind sometimes it looks like smoke billowing off the pines.

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Submitted by billy the kid on Sat, 05/30/2020 - 11:06

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I hope Real Gone Music will start releasing the Dave's Picks series after they are done putting out the Road Trip series.

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Submitted by unkle sam on Sat, 05/30/2020 - 11:39

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look what's happening out in the street....we can't seem to answer those questions we asked out mothers so long ago..... why is there war? why do people kill? why can't we be free? if only we had a president that helped and healed instead of....what we got now.
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Axis bold as love
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Submitted by Charlie3 on Sat, 05/30/2020 - 12:00

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I'm guessing that the Dave's Picks series is off limits due to the limited edition situation. Wouldn't bother me a bit if Real Gone released them, but I suspect not everyone would feel that way.

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Sat, 05/30/2020 - 12:16

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....I'm embarrassed for my fellow Americans. Protesting is one thing....when I get confused, I listen to the music play. That being said, I've been listening to a lot of music recently. Fact. 80% of the "protesters" in Minneapolis aren't from Minneapolis. I call them opportunists.
Be safe deadvikes.

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Submitted by nappyrags on Sat, 05/30/2020 - 12:21

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Yup, same here...I lose it on the mornings I go out and realize I now have a yellow Forester

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Submitted by Charlie3 on Sat, 05/30/2020 - 12:42

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Forgot about that SpaceX launch till I saw your post Nappyrags. First launch of NASA astronauts into space from US soil since 2011.

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Sat, 05/30/2020 - 12:56

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....was unfortunately buried under all the news about assholes.
Been digging on Dylan a lot recently.
Last five.
Bob Dylan - Travelin' Through Bootleg Vol 15
UB40 - Labour Of Love II
GOGD - 3.17.68
GOGD - 6.14.76
Metallica - Master Of Puppets

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Submitted by Charlie3 on Sat, 05/30/2020 - 13:21

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Giving another listen to DaP 30 after reading the recent ambivalent comments about that one. Just started disc 1, but at this point Black Peter is hitting the spot. That Hard To Handle is no slouch either.

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Sat, 05/30/2020 - 13:29

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....High-Lie Bonus Disc. I need this. One could analyze this PITB for ages, as I'm sure some have already. Its a keeper.
I'll just put Mr. Floyd as my avatar here as my version of a protest.

i’m honored to be part of this beautiful community/mega brain dead head place to be wishing everyone a grateful day today can you listen to music play it’ll get you through the day just can’t wait to see you tomorrow

*I have just watched a repeat of the documentary "Rock N' Roll America", which was shown as a tribute to Little Richard, according to the paper. Its a great programme, and stresses repeatedly how rock n' roll helped break down racial barriers, as white kids got turned on by Little Richard, Fats Domino, Chuck Berry etc, and Sun records recorded so many fantastic records by black and white musicians. Proof positive that real rock n' roll comes from the right place, and is needed now as much as ever. It will take more than rock n' roll, of course, but I thought the point was worth making.

I started watching View From the Vaults earlier today, 6/14/91. and it is fascinating. Its years since I have watched a film of the band this late in their career. They take a while to warm up, that's for sure. Initially, it seems there are just too many people on stage to play such stylistically simple music...Big River, Wang Dang Doodle, Maggies Farm being the worst offenders. Too many people, with too much electronic equipment. Then it all coalesces during Row Jimmy, and the rest of the first set is really good. I'm not keen on Bob Weirs guitar tone, but what he plays is pretty good, and Bruce's playing is sparkling. I'm not sure about Vince's contributions. Jerry is great when he can push through to the front. Second set starts well, too, with Help-Slipknot-Franklins.
Last 5, while I'm here -
Its Hotter in Hawaii Various -comp of Hawaiian music from the late 1920s-1930s.
Speciality Sessions CD2 Little Richard
Roll and Tumble Blues Various - comp of blues slide guitar
Road Trips - the one with 6/16/74 included
Young Americans David Bowie. My least favourite Bowie album from the 70s, as it goes.

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Submitted by LedDed on Sat, 05/30/2020 - 16:12

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I've been binge-listening to Dick's Vol. 20 for the last 48 hours. I really love this show and I don't think it gets the attention it deserves.

Strange times we are living in keep getting stranger. Makes me "feel like a stranger." And before anyone carries on about how they don't come here to hear anyone talk about anything other than Dead music, I'm fine with it as long as folks refrain from attacking each other personally... er, with words. You know.

I spent my youth avoiding cops and trying not to get busted, mostly for drug-related offenses. I did some stupid shit and I was lucky to get away with almost all of it. As I have gotten older, and now that weed is legal here, I appreciate that there are cops of every race out there tonight putting their lives on the line to protect us and our way of life. One bad apple does not ruin the whole bunch. May they stay safe, use sound judgement, and prosper.

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Submitted by Oroborous on Sat, 05/30/2020 - 17:18

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DAVEROCK/6/14/91: well said my good man. All that was true and often the case, so nice read for someone who doesn’t normally listen to that era!

CHARLIE/VGUY: nice posts! And take that sweeeeettt High Lie bonus playing and do with it what Mickey said after Fare Thee well...put it in your heart, and hang onto it, and take it back out into the world.
EDIT: at a safe distance of course!

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Submitted by Dark-Star on Sat, 05/30/2020 - 17:28

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Both shows or 1 of the 2 LedDed? I haven't listened to that one in years . Nice preemptive shoosh.

MLB I hear you on some of the warts on DaP 30. Great stuff though anyway. I wouldn't throw it back in. It prompted today to be 1970 day for me. Speaking of which, KF doesn't switching the song order bother you when they start tuning up for one tune and then play something else?

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Submitted by daverock on Sat, 05/30/2020 - 17:38

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All the electronic gadgetry ( and the presence of Mickey Hart ) makes sense when we get to drums and space. Excellent Estimated Prophet, too, though...sorry to pick on Vince again... .. why make your keyboard sound like a sax? It seemed to be a bit of a thing for the Dead in the 90s, making your instrument sound like a different one. Seems very gimmicky now.

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Submitted by Oroborous on Sat, 05/30/2020 - 18:17

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As much as I USED to like to slag Vince;
1) as I’ve watched some of those videos over the years I’ve realized he could play and sing well, but like some of the other non-core members, they always seemed to push them into lead role/front man status, and imho that’s where the problem might be. Though sometimes he did look not very engaged.....and I don’t think I’ll ever have an affinity for long, long, long, long, long, long, long long, long, way to go home.....sorry...but I HAVE learned to appreciate some of his contributions. You wouldn’t think Jerry would of signed off if the guy couldn’t play.
2) Bob Bralove supposedly picked many of his sounds and Vince supposedly didn’t often have much control over any of it.
No I’ve really learned to appreciate some 91 and 92 shows. But whenever they had a big band it definetly could take more time to get the train rolling etc. prolly why I love late 71-74 so much. Lean mean Improvisational Jazz machine!
But as you’ve mentioned, once that big 91 train got rolling, look out! Whoo whoo!

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Submitted by Angry Jack Straw on Sat, 05/30/2020 - 21:10

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Electronic gimmickry. Exactly. Leave that to U2.

I have been saying that for years. Whether it’s Vince’s keyboards sounding like a saxophone or Garcia’s guitar sounding like a trumpet, none of it interests me. If I don’t see the actual instrument on stage, I don’t want to hear it.

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Submitted by jrf68@hotmail.com on Sat, 05/30/2020 - 23:17

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Does your way of life say that it's ok or normal to repeatedly kill innocent people for nothing? Yes? Then I guess they are protecting your way of life.
Fucking disgusting...
"and now that weed is legal here"=now that I'm not on their radar....better them than me.

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Submitted by Lovemygirl on Sun, 05/31/2020 - 01:53

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...wake up music picked by the crew aboard the shuttle just woke up the crew with their pick Of music to play which has been a NASA tradition since Gemini I believe. They chose a ,“Black Sabbath “! Song! Guess what song it was?! Very cool! The tune? "Planet Caravan" by ‘Black Sabbath’!
*** https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_rfXkfeGi5k
* Behnken and Hurley are apparently big rock fans! Safe Journey my brothers!🙏❤️😎
*Also check out this ‘amazing Jam & ‘legendary line-up (musicians)! Love this !
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=48UcXX3FAwI
** Legendary blues guitarist BB King performs jams with very special guests Slash (Guns n Roses), Derek Trucks (The Allman Brothers), Susan Tedeschi, Mick Hucknall (Simply Red) and Ronnie Wood (Faces) live at the Royal Albert Hall.

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Submitted by Colin Gould on Sun, 05/31/2020 - 02:21

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I try not to comment on politics since my own country is currently being run by a group of incompetents. However, in posts below a comment was made that one bad apple doesn’t spoil the bunch. That is exactly what happens unless you have procedures in place to remove the bad apples from the others. Those procedures need to identify and remove these bad apples, preferably before they infect the others (or kill someone). It is also necessary to ensure the bad apples aren’t able to just rejoin as police officers, something that can happen at the moment since sacking someone from the force doesn’t prevent them from rejoining.
Another poster said it was a fact that 80% of the protestors in Minneapolis were not from the area. I have no idea if this is correct but I have to ask where does this fact come from? It seems unlikely that the entire population of protesters were identified and while it is possible that a statistically significant, random, selection of protesters may have been canvassed about their origins I doubt it since the data would have had to be collected and interpreted in a very short time in very difficult conditions. I could imagine that the police might have the information on those protestors that they detained/arrested but this would not be a random group since they have, presumably, been picked out because of some anti-social/illegal behaviour.
Whatever, Stay safe and remember questioning the actions of your government is not unpatriotic. Let’s try not to go to hell in a bucket.
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Let pass my weary guiltless ghost - Magnus Granberg
Stimmung - Stockhausen
Live at Temple University - John Coltrane
Sunflower - Tom Rapp
Wrath of the math - Jeru the damaja

If one man commits murder while three of his colleagues stand by watching, it might be a good idea to review the whole system, as well as the individuals concerned.
Maybe I should also say, I am not for a minute forgetting the injustices evident in British society. We all have along way to go.

Stockhausen....there's a name to conjure with! His short electronic composition "Gesang De Junglinge" still sounds shocking today. I saw him live once, too. It was strange , as you might expect. He gave a short speech, which was so offensive he got booed off. They then dimmed the lights, we were advised to close our eyes, and it seemed as though they played the L.P of "Hymnen" in quadraphonic sound. Afterwards, there was an apology read out over the system, as apparently one of the speakers hadn't been switched on! You would never have known.

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Submitted by unkle sam on Sun, 05/31/2020 - 06:22

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old man get some soldiers, keep them close at hand
the seeds that were sown yesterday now flower in the land
guard yourself most carefully with military might
for plants that cannot bloom by day must flower in the night

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Ohio
Monster
Baron Von Tollbooth
For what it's worth
Volunteers

history shows this is not going to end well

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Submitted by JimInMD on Sun, 05/31/2020 - 07:54

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There's an old war saying, "first results from the field" are often wrong.

https://lawandcrime.com/george-floyd-death/jail-records-show-minneapoli…

Available data is showing in excess of 80% of the people in these protests are in-state residents. Those first reporting that 80% were from out of state are not proving to be correct and several redactions have been made from those first reporting these numbers. Most appear to be in city (Minneapolis).

I am not rushing to judgement on either side I doubt if I will. This is a complex and nuanced topic. Be careful, be kind be considerate.

Have a peaceful day out there folks. So much trouble in the world.

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Submitted by KeithFan2112 on Sun, 05/31/2020 - 08:52

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I like your new avatar / picture. The illustration is funny and the colors are cool.

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Submitted by Charlie3 on Sun, 05/31/2020 - 09:16

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...Oh Yeah, two wrongs don't make a right. So maybe, condemning the police who killed George Floyd really doesn't justify destroying the property, livelihood, and possibly the lives of innocent people who didn't kill anyone. If you feel it is justified, then I have to ask if you are volunteering your property and safety for destruction by a mob of angry people who want to inflict pain on you to remedy an injustice in which you did not participate or condone. Should each group riot and destroy when a member of their group is killed or injured by another? Is that really the path to harmony or is that just the retrograde idea of a blood feud coming back into vogue?

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