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    "To my ears, the best Dead shows are those that not only fit the criteria that make them amongst the best of a year, but that are also completely unique for their era—shows that fit perfectly into their year of performance, but also fall somewhat outside of the norm for that year. Harpur College, Veneta, Cornell, Cape Cod, and Augusta are all shows that are objectively excellent, and if they are not the best from their respective years of performance, they are certainly unique. Miami 6/23/74 falls into that category: not only one of the very best shows from this outstanding year, but also one of the most interesting and unique. It’s certainly worthy of many, many deep listens." - David Lemieux

    ¡Ándale, ándale! ¡Arriba, arriba! We're back with a hot one from Miami, F-L-A. DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 34 features the complete show from the Jai Alai Fronton, 6/23/74, one with unparalleled sound quality due in equal parts to the Wall Of Sound and the beautiful sonic clarity of Kidd Candelario's tapes. The first set is chock full of dynamite takes on classics like "Ramble On Rose," "Mississippi Half-Step," and "Cumberland Blues." The second set delivers on the JAMS - one leading into a gorgeous "Ship Of Fools," one rare instrumental version of "Dark Star," and a "Spanish Jam," this is Miami after all! The show also offers up a "first" and an "only" - the former, a Seastones set featuring Phil and Ned Lagin and the latter, the sole Grateful Dead performance of Chuck Berry's "Let It Rock."

    Limited to 22,000 numbered copies, DAVE’S PICKS VOL.34: JAI ALAI FRONTON, MIAMI, FL 6/23/74 has been mastered from the 7.5 IPS reel-to-reel tapes to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman. ¡Agarrarlo mientras esta calientito! (Get it while it's hot!)

    *Limited to 2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

    Subscribed to Dave's Picks? With this release, you'll also get a bonus disc with selections from Miami 6/22/74. Excellente!

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  • CaseyJanes
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    You are correct sir about the Bm...also a Dm and Dsus2 according to Ultimate Guitar Tabs on the “Official Version”. I love the above mentioned app. Has most every song that you can think of and usually there are many versions to play so if you’re not quite getting one arrangement there is usually a way for guys like me to dumb it down a bit. That said I need to add those chords on UJB as they are in my range. Will also try the riff....I have a little pentatonic game as well! (I’m guessing there)

    For the record, and if memory serves, I do believe I’ve seen youtube of you playing WilfredT, and you are an excellent player. I’m like a wanna be campfire player at best, but it’s more fun then a frog in a glass of milk.

  • Oroborous
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    Hola Senor Janes

    Good to see ya!
    I think Bob was alluding to what I’ve heard/read all of them say over the years; it got harder and harder to get the band (especially Jerry) to rehearse and some of those songs you just couldn’t do well without rehearsal: LS, Cosmic Charlie, St Stephen etc. Unfortunately another side effect of ole Jer Bears monkey...especially when you consider how hard many of Jer’s parts were on these songs...it’s a bummer but no wonder many of the greats were set aside.

    GUITARS & CADDILACS; used to play all the time. Tried to play guitar for ten years, occasionally professionally, once in the studio....switched to bass and rarely looked back. Did try the solo acoustic/apre thing briefly, but wasn’t that good and it’s really hard carrying the whole show by your self. And Scarry! Don’t have that front man Mojo either “star waaarrrsss, nothing but staaaarrrrr wwwaaaarrrsss” much prefer to play with 3 to 5 people, the interaction is where it’s at. But the rush of playing in a hot band in front of a bunch of people IS uncompareble....talk about a high!
    But yeah, I preferred being in the back row under the dark lights grooving on the Bass. Played that professionally on and off for 20 years, last ten it was my main, though not only job...It was a gas, but after 100-150 nights a year, often at shitty bars and clubs, when your feet are killing you and your back can’t take that heavy lumber anymore, we’ll sometimes it’s a double edge sword doing what you love for a living....unfortunately haven’t really played in like ten years now. Had to TRY and grow up and get a real job....plus after I got booted out of my main gig, eventually all the calls stopped coming as it is a small, close knit group that gets the gigs here.
    I truly miss it in my minds eye, but I don’t miss schlepping that heavy ass gear at 3 in the morning, or getting hassled by the law, or trying to get inspired when your back hurts and it’s late, and there’s only 4 drunks left, but I do miss it.
    GUITARS
    - Ibanez Muscian Series I got in 79 and modified with Alembic circuitry/pickups in 84.
    - Madeira Acoustic
    - 84 Alembic Spoiler 4 string electric Bass
    - Michael Kelly Club Deluxe 5 String Acoustic/Electric Bass. picked this up early century when I was playing a lot to get upright sound etc. Never spent enough on upright to be proficient as it’s physicaly painful, and it’s a drag trying to play live with a loud band. I liked the sound I good get with the Kelly and a Sans Amp tech 21 Acoustic DI. It’s made for Acoustic guitar but works awesome for the Acoustic Bass. Seceret is the adjustable mid....
    shit, ramblin again, sorry, fun topic. DAVEROCK sportin’ the Bobbie Dazzler! Nice axe bra! My guitar teacher always played and sold Gretches. Wish I would of got one, but wanted a Bob Weir Ibenez so bad. Almost had one but got the Muscian series instead. I’ve seen pictures of both Bob and Jerry playing one but not sure what show (s)? Think it was around when Bob was first using Ibenez?

  • wilfredtjones
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    There's a B Minor in there somewhere...I think after the G. The riff is fun, too! Don't forget to learn that :-)

    Thanks for sharing info. on your guitars, too. I also have a '96 Washburn (D-20 in Koa). My brother just bought his first guitar, a Seagull S6... :-)

  • Oroborous
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    6/22/83 source

    Yeah I think that’s the same source as I had. As I say at the time it was definetly my best sounding tape which in those days wasn’t saying much, but this one shined! Great show too, and looks like it must of been a great place to freak freely from the news clip.
    So my buddy Doug hooked up with some dude who either was doing the taping or ? Not sure I really knew, but they knew WTF they were doing, had like Nac with sennhieser mics and were usually low generation and near that quality.
    I had the best gear so most of my friends/cousins would bring their new tapes to my house for coping etc so I’d usually get decent generations. Some shows better than others depending on where they were located. Remember, this was before taper section so some diehard pros would poach in front of board, which sometimes was awesome, other times too loud or tone unbalanced etc...
    Anyway, we start getting some killer 83’s, probably end of year I’m guessing. Unfortunately I never got the source guys info and next thing you know ole Doug’s knocked up the bosses daughter, whose family is super religious so shotgun wedding and no more fun for ole druggles, poor bastard! And no more tapes for us! Dooaah
    Funny part was he got our band to play his ultra conservative wedding, but’s that’s a whole nother story for the bonfire....

  • CaseyJanes
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    Hey all, COVID seems to have me busier than I’ve ever been with both the wife and kid working and schooling here at the cave...so I’ve just been lurking here lately on the site, but I have to jump in on a good guitar convo.

    Dennis, I’ve read that 1983 is right around when Gibson started producing great acoustics again, shifting back to some of the methods that they used on 60s flat top guitars. I would love to play that Hummingbird. I’ll bet it sounds awesome, and from knowing what I know of you, it is probably very well cared for! I just recently learned UJB. It was surprisingly (to me at least) very easy to learn and made up of only 5 basic chords (G, D, C, Am, Em) which are some of the first chords (and easiest) that most guitar players will learn. Rhythmically, the toughest part of the song IMO is probably in what would be considered to be the chorus....that is the part that goes “whoa-o what I want to know is ______________....there are some quick chord changes in that line which take some practice, but all in all, not to difficult. That said, singing it and playing at the same time for me is much more difficult. I have only recently been able to incorporate some singing along with my playing and I have been playing for more than 20 years. Some of that I think is confidence factor of worrying about what others think I sound like, which I really don’t give a shit about anymore, but the other part is that rhythmically it is not easy to learn, especially if the song has difficult chord phrasing. Did anyone hear the Bob Weir Shakedown interview from Friday night? He had some interesting comments about Lost Sailor and the reason it didn’t stay around for too long in the bands repertoire. Too difficult to play and the other band members didn’t want to spend the time on it. And we’ve seen that LS has only recently been brought back into D&Cs repertoire. So this got me thinking about the progression of Bob Weirs playing ability. Of course it’s widely know that Bob was nearly kicked out of the band early on because of complaints about his guitar playing. And to be fair he only started playing guitar at the age of 13 and then met Garcia just 3 years later. And any player is going to experience some plateauing, especially early on. That said, it make me wonder if the shift in style on WMD and AB were at least partly made in efforts to help with this handicap as the arrangements are much simpler and back to the basics. (Here is a quote from wiki on the subject:
    “The incident apparently led to a period of significant growth in Weir's guitar playing. Phil Lesh said that when drummer Mickey Hart left the band temporarily in early 1971, he was able to hear Weir's playing more clearly than ever and "I found myself astonished, delighted and excited beyond measure at what Bobby was doing." Lesh described Weir's playing as "quirky, whimsical and goofy" and noted his ability to play chord voicings on the guitar (with only four fingers) that one would normally hear from a keyboard (with up to ten fingers).[13].

    Cousins: what kind of guitars do you own? What gets the most play? Based on your bands genre, I’m going to guess a Fender Telecaster?

    Here are my guitars:

    1). 1996 Washburn Limited Edition Acoustic
    2). 2017 Gibson Les Paul High Performance in Cherry Red Sumburst
    3). Seagull Artist Studio CW Deluxe Element
    4). MJT Custom Telecaster build that is aged vintage relic...Taos Turquoise over 3-Tone burst
    5). Rhino issued Grateful Dead Dancing Bear/Stealie ukulele (don’t really play this one just decoration
    6). I also recently ordered a Taylor GS Mini Koa Plus E with edge burst on my 4 years zero interest Sweetwater card. I needed a good travel guitar and this one gets phenomenal reviews....can’t wait!, but sshhhhhh! Don’t tell Mrs Casey!

    -the one I play the most (currently) is the Seagull...most accessible hanging on the wall right next to the couch in my living room. It has a pick up so I can plug it in but I rarely do as it projects nicely anyway. It as a solid Sitka Spruce Top, with Solid Rosewood back and sides, Mahogany neck and Ebony fingerboard, gold vintage tuners. It’s a beautiful guitar that sounds just as good as it looks.

    Oro - Great repo car story...had me LOL as usual! For those interested, I promise to finish my Gorge story very soon. Fell off the wagon on that one, but the details are still there. Anniversary is also fast approaching....bummed I can’t do the repeat as I planned for Boulder in July...hopefully we can get back at it soon!

    Doc - Great to read your regular posts again. Glad you’re back.

    Be Well Dead People!

    KCJ

    Led Ded: just read your post...couldnt agree more. No better hobby and incredibly gratifying when you are able to overcome a plateau....repitition and practice....I’m at least one hour a day usually early mornings or later at night!

  • LedDed
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    Yes, some of us really play...

    I am a guitar freak. I have about two dozen electrics, two acoustics and a couple basses, untold effects pedals and several amps. I actually do pick up those instruments with my two hands and play the shit out of them, every day, sometimes only for a half hour and other times all day long, esp. on weekends.

    It's the most gratifying hobby I've ever known. When you start out, you suck and sound like shit. Over time, you learn other people's songs, chord changes, scales, etc. One day you find yourself sitting there with a drink and wailing along to "Layla" at full volume, kicking ass and blending right into the record. And then, you start coming up with your own stuff. Some people eschew covers and play as themselves right off, but if there's a kind of music you like, learning that stuff gives you a toolbox of techniques from which to start doing your own thing.

    You get out of it what you put into it, practice practice practice. I don't really practice so much as play, but you hone your skills through repetition and hours devoted as you pick up new things here and there. One of my favorite things is to crank up a "Big River" like the one on One From The Vault, and wail along with Jerry. He was so good in his prime it's sick.

    I'm not in a band. I have a straight job and a family (and a mortgage etc.) However now and again getting in a room with other musicians, especially with drums present, and turning up is as much fun as it looks. Unfortunately it looks like a bleak time right now for anyone struggling to make it as a musician. First album sales were destroyed by the internet and bands had to depend on live concerts and merch sales. What are they going to do now?

    A long time ago, I might have leaned that way, but I'm glad I went with the straight job, keeping the guitar playing on the side, pure artistic expression with no strings attached or record company bullshit. Last, anyone who's always wanted to learn to play the guitar, go buy a decent one and get after it! If you keep with it, it will reward you more than you can imagine.

    \m/

  • Deadheadbrewer
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    Did someone say, "Saint Paul"?

    LOVE that show from '77 (AND the Saint Paul show from the 1978 box), but cannot allow myself to get distracted from my E72 studies. I still need to finish Bickershaw AND Amsterdam, then get to Rotterdam on its anniversary today. The back-to-back concerts on this tour make things difficult . . .

    I didn't get into Grateful Dead until I was 21 (1991), but if I had been born ten or fifteen years earlier, I would have attended those old MN and upper-midwest shows.

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    Hey Dennis, I'll take your Hummingbird if it's lonely :-)
    I play guitar in a band(Western Swing/Honky Tonk) , although not sure when we'll be able to play out again this year.

  • Dennis
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    Just got DP29 in from Real Gone Music. I never bought any of the DP's when they were coming out, my buddy was getting them and sending me copies, money was tight and what the hell. In the end, wish I had bought them all as they came. Now I'm too cheap to pay some of the prices I see for complete sets, and the wife would never understand :-).

    I have to say for anyone who hasn't bought these real gone music releases, they did a nice job on it. At first blush I thought the bonus tracks weren't included, but though not listed, they are there. It was 60 bucks from amazon (got a price cut before it shipped!) So maybe I'll look into getting the real gone collection,,,,, if it's cheap enough :-)

    Dave the Rock and the Gretsch - I know Dave's not the only one on these boards who has guitars AND I know absolutely NOTHING about guitars or playing. But I looked up your guitar and yeah, pricey things. The demo's online made it sound very nice. My question, can you really play? I've met many people over the years who have instruments of all types, played "in my youth", they can still strum a few basic cords, but really can't play. I have a Gibson hummingbird my wife gave me back in 83-ish, why, I have no idea. Maybe she thought I develop unknown talents. I told it's a nice guitar, quite a few people have strummed it over they years and say "very nice". But one night at the store a customer who came in all the time (doctor of some sort), had just bought a new hummingbird, asked me bring in my old one. Bastard sat down and knocked out UJB off top of head. Blew me away. BTW - said my old hummingbird was much louder than new ones.

    So Dave, do you play? Also other folks out there, do you really play? I believe some of you are in bands?

    Just curious.

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    The bonus disc is simply amazing! Classic songs/jams and the sound is superb. This was a GRATE addition to a magnificent show. Thank you Dave!

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"To my ears, the best Dead shows are those that not only fit the criteria that make them amongst the best of a year, but that are also completely unique for their era—shows that fit perfectly into their year of performance, but also fall somewhat outside of the norm for that year. Harpur College, Veneta, Cornell, Cape Cod, and Augusta are all shows that are objectively excellent, and if they are not the best from their respective years of performance, they are certainly unique. Miami 6/23/74 falls into that category: not only one of the very best shows from this outstanding year, but also one of the most interesting and unique. It’s certainly worthy of many, many deep listens." - David Lemieux

¡Ándale, ándale! ¡Arriba, arriba! We're back with a hot one from Miami, F-L-A. DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 34 features the complete show from the Jai Alai Fronton, 6/23/74, one with unparalleled sound quality due in equal parts to the Wall Of Sound and the beautiful sonic clarity of Kidd Candelario's tapes. The first set is chock full of dynamite takes on classics like "Ramble On Rose," "Mississippi Half-Step," and "Cumberland Blues." The second set delivers on the JAMS - one leading into a gorgeous "Ship Of Fools," one rare instrumental version of "Dark Star," and a "Spanish Jam," this is Miami after all! The show also offers up a "first" and an "only" - the former, a Seastones set featuring Phil and Ned Lagin and the latter, the sole Grateful Dead performance of Chuck Berry's "Let It Rock."

Limited to 22,000 numbered copies, DAVE’S PICKS VOL.34: JAI ALAI FRONTON, MIAMI, FL 6/23/74 has been mastered from the 7.5 IPS reel-to-reel tapes to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman. ¡Agarrarlo mientras esta calientito! (Get it while it's hot!)

*Limited to 2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

Subscribed to Dave's Picks? With this release, you'll also get a bonus disc with selections from Miami 6/22/74. Excellente!

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Your right. It was the living room in providence. We used to go there all the time and always took home a few six packs of Woodstock acid for the trip home. Good times.

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800 hits in the icing!!!!! And that was back in the day when a hit was a hit, none of this do I need 2? No mofo, 1 will more than do!

Can I get an Amen!

….. or some of that Acid Classic.... good enough for Jerry, good enough for me.

Mr Ones...synchronicity...The Complete In A Silent Way Sessions would be in my last 5 too. Beautiful, hypnotic music. I then went backward to the 1965-68 Miles Davis box set, and the 33.32 minute Circle in the Round. I actually enjoy these earlier more tentative electric explorations to the full bore freakouts that came next.

I think its quite good when people show and express different opinions. Its a way of learning. Each of us has their own unique take on things, and its great being in dialogue with people who see things differently to the way you do. So long as you respect them, of course.

This 5/19/74 isn't half bad. When you think of all the vocal drop outs, its ironic that the drop outs that might have improved things don't happen. The ones that do happen don't really detract from what's going on. I know all the words anyway.

LSD cake...I haven't read the link, but its sounds as though it comes from the days before micro dosing.

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I'm told to make this announcement short and not political... I'll make it short, but political is weird,like taking a shit is a political act, smoking it is a more political act... but world politics and a rainbow on a pole is what we are about, my name is Wavy Gravy I'm with the Hog Farm.......etc etc..... into a great China>Rider.... be good and safe everyone... bob t

I 100% agree with you on this. Singling out any politician is not helpful, there's plenty of blame to go around including the Clinton era. That was sort of my point (really counter point). I did not mean to offend or askew the facts. I also don't think this forum is served well attaching politics at all to this topic especially in a election year. As a country we collectively screwed this issue up about as bad as you possibly could from one administration to the next for the better part of the last 80 years.

https://www.drugpolicy.org/issues/brief-history-drug-war

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Such a long, long time to be gone . . . and a short time to be there . . .

It has NOT been a quiet week here in Lake Wobegon. The scene here in the Twin Cities is surreal. Most of us were under curfew for five nights, and in Saint Paul and Minneapolis, they continued curfew last night. A few main freeways were shut down Saturday evening by the authorities, and helicopters are flying everywhere. The city was eerily quiet over the weekend, except of course where it was exactly the opposite. Thursday I went canoeing on the Mississippi, very close to where things are really happening, and the air was ripe with the horrible stench of burning chemicals, and the river had an oily sheen ALL over it for miles. I almost came home through the neighborhood of Saint Paul where the looting and burning had begun that afternoon (unbeknownst to me), but thankfully I took a north-south street just west of where that action had started. I saw smoke as I drove home, but thought, "That's Saint Paul--why would there be smoke over THERE?!" Got home and found out why.

As a strange juxaposition, we're having absolutely IDYLLIC weather here, in a place not known for such loveliness. I'm just outside the hot spots, but Thursday there was some "minor" looting all the way up a main drag within a mile of my house. The Saint Paul Target and that activity was an area I used to walk to from my old house.

The building immediately south (by a matter of fifteen feet) of the 3rd Precinct Police Station is a non-profit music venue called the Hook & Ladder (it was a fire station years ago). They have a lot of GD-type bands, and I go there fairly often. I have no idea how much smoke and water damage they have sustained. The NEXT building immediately south from there is where some friends of mine have been working on a brewery; in April they said to look for a June 1st opening. :(

I won't offer any opinions on the drug war, just the fact that people of color are 3.6 times more likely to be arrested for marijuana than white people, even though usage per capita is nearly identical.

Requiescat in pace, George Floyd, Breonna Taylor, Ahmaud Armery, Philando Castile (an African-American man shot dead by police a mile from my house not quite four years ago--he "looked like" someone they were after--he was NOT the man they were after), Jamar Clark . . .

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In modern history our current president is the second most popular president elected by a minority of Americans!

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Jim , I still have the bumper sticker .
Dead head brewer, quite the first hand account, thank you.
Non political Dead Heads , Democrat Dead Heads , Republican Dead Heads.
Others who love this music .
At least we have something in common that we love.
“If you’re not part of the solution, you’re part of the problem”.
Assignment for a minute or two. See who that quote came from.

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Eldridge Cleaver said " if you're not part of the solution, you are part of the problem". Eldridge Cleaver worked in the Dr Anza College library when I was going there back in the 70s. I wonder if that LSD cake that Garcia got into was part of the solution or part of the problem.

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there's "a big sheen" on the river

2020...what a year. and we're not even halfway done.

C'mon, America; surely we can do better.

Teachers (like me): keep on teachin'
Deadheads: keep on Truckin'

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Same college? Word!

Powers keep on lyin’
While your people keep on dyin’
World keep on turnin’
Cause it won’t be too long

Stevie Wonder “Higher Ground”

That Kid Bill - Definitely part of the solution! :-)

I have found cake of this sort, stops my knees from hurting and stops me from going to the bathroom every 5 minutes. Also made it possible to work 8 hours shift in a head shop dealing with meth heads!

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Yeah, Cleaver worked in the De Anza College library as part of his probation agreement. I used to see him in there all the time. Did you check out that LSD cake video that Jim posted, pretty cool. There is also a cool story that I've mentioned on here before about when the Grateful Dead met Led Zepplin, and Pig Pen did some target practice shooting and LED Zepplin took off running. I don't know how to post things or I would post it.

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http://deadessays.blogspot.com/2012/05/dead-vs-led-zeppelin.html

Deadessays BlogSpot is simply the best source on all things GD. Many thanks and a tip of the hat Caleb.

The Grateful Dead might be our favorite benevolent, beloved freaks.. but they were not always universally loved. Led Zep, parts of the ABros, Ray Manzerek, apparently John Fogerty. Lets face it.. there was a scary aspect to the Grateful Dead, especially in the early days. Makes we wonder what Joe Smith thought every time someone offered him a cup of coffee...

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Cake will NEVER be a problem. Especially chocolate cake. Mmmmmmmmm.

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It's addicting!! Great blog, so much material; the comments are well worth reading as well.

My last ~5:

Spirit 12 Dreams of Dr. Sardonicus
Caravan For Girls Who Grow Plump in the Night
GD May 77 1st Box
Red Foley Bear Family Box set
Various Motown Chartbusters Vol. 4 (UK release)

Latest Youtube interest: Colt Clark & the Quarantine Kids (hoping they'll cover Ripple one day)

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All this talk of cake and drugs reminds me of the British comedy ‘Brass Eye’ An episode called Drugs had a lot of ‘celebrities’ including an MP giving scare stories about the Czechoslovakian drug Cake which apparently had an effect on an area of the brain called Shatner’s Bassoon. I’ m sure it will be on YouTube somewhere.

Led Zeppelin and guns. You have to remember that they were/are British so guns would not be an everyday item to them. Even now our police are, mainly, unarmed.

Great post-thanks for that. It painted a good picture of what life must be like where you are .
It alsoreminded me that it was a weird juxtaposition of effects here in Lowestoft, when the lockdown was first put into place at the end of March. The weather seemed to improve dramatically, which normally brings people out of their houses and from neighbouring towns to visit. This year, the nicer the weather became, the less people there were about to enjoy it.

A few renowned rockers from Britain have been publicly scornful of the Dead. Lemmy and John Lydon have both described being unimpressed by Bickershaw and Ally Pally respectively. Elvis Costello thought they were okay though. The Dead were very unfashionable in Britain, in my neck of the woods, during the mid 70s-well, not many people I knew even knew who they were. Their sound was a lot more relaxed, and less immediately dramatic or theatrical than a lot of the bands I saw at that time.

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Elvis Costello did an acoustic medley of Ship of Fools and Musta' Been the Roses, very nice.
Jerry did an interview in 1981 for the New Musical Express..by far the most unfriendly interviewer he faced; trying to remember his name, may have been Paul Morley. Jerry handled it very well, the interview is worth tracking down(titled: Grateful Dead: What A Long Predictable Trip It's Become)

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Even Keith Richards said he didn't like them. He said he wasn't a fan, or words to that effect, and then he said something like, "sorry Jerry, there's just too much poodling around up there". I thought wow talk about adding insult to injury. He's noodling not poodling Keith.

I also read that he doesn't like Zeppelin. He commented that the drums are too loud which is probably where the LED came from.

Revisting DaP 32 from 3/24/73 at the moment. Added a good quality soundboard of Bird Song and a longer Dark Star for seasoning (also from March '73). Also added a March '73 Wharf Rat to crossfade near seamlessly with the Wharf Rat teaser intro at the end of the legitimate March 24th 4 minute Dark Star. I feel like that one's fair game because Jerry was a couple of bars into Wharf Rat before abandoning it for Sing Me Back Home. I'm calling concert foul on that one.

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To follow-up on earlier comments, no harm intended.

Both Charlie3 and dreading are some of the most thoughtful, considerate and intelligent posters here. My comments, though not in 100% agreement, were sent with respect an no hostility (at least no disrespect or hostility intended). I hope they both know that, and I sincerely mean this as a compliment to both.

If we all agreed 100% of the time, well, life would be super swell and groovy in a brady bunch way, but weird and not the good weird. If that makes sense. I am no role model.

Again, no disrespect meant whatsoever. Do carry on, and sincere apologies if I offended or was out of line.

Phuqum

If they don't get it, they don't get it.

Many people _do_ get it.

I dont get Kiss. But many people do.

Lemmy dissin' the GD? that sux. Motorhead is probably my next favorite band after the GD. Oh well.

I hate seafood. But many people love it.

For all the haters, I am glad the band lasted 30 years, and the band members made a bunch of bank doing their thing.

Living well is the best revenge.

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Hey Jim, no offense was taken on my end, hope the same is true for you as I certainly meant no offense. These are tricky things to talk about, but civil discourse can only improve mutual understanding and most of the different opinions seem to be expressed in a civil manner on this thread at least. I know I have thought about things in a different light after reading comments on here in the past just because the civil tone makes me more likely to listen. So again, hope I didn't offend anyone either, and I have seen nothing which would in any way warrant taking offense myself.

Trust me, I am aware that I have some rather individualized views on a variety of topics and I don't expect everyone to agree with me on all of them. We should all give and receive mutual respect, but mutual agreement is not required and would be unreasonable to request. As I think someone on here already pointed out, if everyone just treats everyone else the way they want to be treated themselves, a substantial number of our problems would vanish. But man, 2020 - global plagues, locusts in India, tragedies and riots here - I'm hoping for an improvement for the last half of the year.

....I usually don't come here to vent. Rewrote a post I posted here a few hours ago, because when I typed out those words, I was very upset and pissed. I then gathered my emotions and feelings and removed it. But, for those of you that did read it, I wasn't wrong.
I'd rather vent about who was the best Grateful Dead keyboard player or whether they played better indoors or outdoors, or which is better. Indica or Sativa.
Ps. I get KISS.

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no...I doubt we will. I've now given you ample ways to contact me. You haven't reached out.
You called me out on my ARMY service and I take great personal offence at that...to say the least.
I had friends die...your fellow countrymen and neighbors in defense of your way of life. . Enjoy your privileges, given to you from others.

This is the last time I will pollute these boards with bad vibes.
Good luck out there people. See ya down the road. I'm never coming here again.

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...haven't we all played both roles in this song at one time or another? https://youtu.be/fZoY2mf5pQ4
I don't know about the rest of you, but I've been an asshole a time or two, and I've met quite a few.

EDIT: In an abundance of caution, I think I should point out my title here and state again, this is not directed at anyone, just a funny song and idea we can all be assholes from time to time. Forgive us our trespasses as we forgive those who trespass against us and all that.

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Yes, it was Paul Morley who interviewed Jerry in the NME in 1981. I remember it well. Apparently he said afterwards that Jerry was one of the most intelligent and articulate people he ever interviewed.
There was an earlier article on The Dead in the NME in 1974 written by Nick Kent, one of the best journalists covering music in the 1970s. He didn't like The Dead either....but the article was so well written, and he painted such an exotic picture of the band that it really intrigued me to find out more about them. It was called "Whatever Happened to The Cosmic Dream" - and I wanted to find out. Still do.

Its ironic that sometimes detractors of something provide a greater service to the band ( or subject) they are detracting from than do all out enthusiasts. As William Blake wrote, "Opposition is true friendship."

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Dave's 34 came plopping through my door this morning. I have placed it, unopened, at the foot of my stairs for opening in three days time.

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The custom's charge card has just plopped through my letterbox, so something must be happening in Lowestoft, given that Daverock has received his, and I think that like me lives in the sleepy, most easterly point of the UK. So, it will be a trip across the bridge to the depot in the next few days to collect it.

I'm a big Costello fan, and am sure that he's a Dead fan. They get frequent mentions in interviews with him, and he contributed to the Stolen Roses tribute thing, as I think others have alluded to.

Whilst still technically working through Covid-19, given the nature of my job there's been plenty of 'downtime', which has allowed sheds to be painted and allotments to be weeded within an inch of their lives, at least in comparison to normal, whatever that was or will be in the future. Plenty of listening time too, in the home primarily, and not in the car where most has previously occurred. With colleagues and friends self-isolating though, and not seeing anybody as much anyway, we've been sharing musical tastes. So I've been able to turn a mate onto Little Feat, Big Star, The Idle Race, Skip Bifferty and Blossom Toes, for example, whilst he's made all the Badfinger albums available to me, as well as Paul Revere and the Raiders, The Coral and much more: stuff I was aware of but hadn't got nor really listened to. Obviously, there's still so much music out there I don't really know about...

We've also been doing a weekly catch up on our respective listening, so my last five are:
Bob Dylan - Paris 1966 - from the 1966 tour box set,
The Blue Nile - Hats,
Super Furry Animals - Out Spaced (fantastic B Sides compilation),
Country Joe & The Fish - Electric Music for the Mind and Body,
and, Neil Young (and the Santa Monica Flyers) - Roxy, Tonight's The Night Live...

All the best, and hope others still waiting for DaP 34 get good news soon...

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Phantom Engineer - I see you said you had time to paint your "sheds".

You must be the legendary Arthur "2 sheds" Jackson!

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Tremendous patience! Which disc are you going to sample first? They're all good in my opinion. I do like the occasional banter interspersed throughout the set. Have a grateful day everyone! :-)

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.....stick around bro.

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Every now and then the cast of characters who gather around here have to recalibrate after some of us vent about something controversial. It's easy to reduce each other to their "avatars" and say things in a way we'd never say to a real person. Hope we can all take a deep breath and put things in perspective and maybe you'll give us another try. In the meantime you'll be missed, and I, for one, thank you for your service.

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Thanks JRF, hope to see you around.

Strange and difficult times. The Wheel is turnin'....

Heeeeyyyyyy, Charlie, that’s my theme song your playing! 😎

JRF: we love ya bro, so please don’t go!
Many of us have made a wrong turn here before, but like the big goofy family we are, we always play through it....

DaP 34: glad our mates across the pond are finally getting theirs! Good stuff mon, ENJOY! I suggest the bonus disc first...look forward to hearing all y’alls critiques...

SKULLTRIP: anyone hear from SKULLTRIP lately? I know he’s had high risk concerns since the scourge started. Haven’t heard from him in a while, hope he’s ok?

Phantomengineer - it doesn't actually say this on the Dave Picks cards the post office are giving out, but the depot is only open between 7.00am and 9.00am. I arrived mid morning a few days ago, and got a very frosty reception from a middle aged woman in a uniform who looked as though she hated the Dead even more than Nick Kent. She told me there was no way she was handing over the cd outside the appointed time-and that she was just following the governments instructions ! Sounded as though she had been told by Boris Johnson personally.

More near synchronicity-I just played Dylan Live at The Albert Hall 27th May 1966. Priceless introduction to Visions of Johanna...this is not a druuurg song. I don't write druuurg songs etc.

Wilfred - I will play the bonus disc first. I always play Dead shows in collections in the order in which they were played. Even with boxes. Consequently I am much more familiar with the Wembley shows from early April 1972 than I am with the late May shows 1972-I sometimes never get there, and at the beginning of each year I have to go back to the beginning of the box again. But these 1974 shows look right up my street-roll on Monday!

If you are lucky enough to have the opportunity to collect your DaP #34 then the Royal Mail website says the following:

“Customer Service Points – Temporary Change in Opening Hours

We have changed the opening times of our Customer Services Points in our local delivery offices. Our largest locations will be open between 07:00-11:00am. All other Customer Service Points will be open between 07:00-09:00am. All will be closed on Wednesday and Sunday.”

In my case the package has been in the UK since 29th May but there is no sign here in the NW of England yet.

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I re-read the collection card a little while ago, and will pay the customs charge online and await delivery, presumably now, early next week.

Back to Paris, the real problems for Bob start when he's attempting, unsuccessfully, to retune his guitar prior to playing 'Just Like a Woman'. The crowd are already getting slightly tetchy, but after five minutes of attempting to get things right, including asking, presumably Bobby Neuwirth, for a replacement guitar and not getting one, Bob says, "I wanna get out of here as fast as you wanna get out of here" in response to the latest jibe from the audience. Priceless! A typically, incendiary electric set follows. And all on his 25th birthday as well. Thanks christ this stuff exists...

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10 Year Anniversary Today.
Sixtus is pretty lucky Iggy Loves him as she does and Is; It's a Happy Day.

Things continue to swirl, the proverbial whirlwind.

We'll All get there together.
Be Well, People.

Sixtus

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I also was not intending to hit below the belt or anything. If I singled you out I didn't really mean to. I honestly don't recall and gave up trying to find what I posted. Your post reminded me of the war on drugs discussion that started here a couple of years ago when Ronnie R was mentioned in a negative light when one of the early Daves Picks was released may be Colorado 81. There was a lot of similar sentiment going around. I'm not a big fan of politicians or the two pary divide and conquer system but I believe in keeping both sides of a dtory that divides people on the table so I said something when I ignored it last time. Nothing personal at all coming from end and if it sounded that way I sincerely apologize to you Jim.

Keep on Truckin like the doo da man.
Peace and Sunshine Daydreams.
Look for a while at the China Cat Sunflower.

All good.

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Happy 10th Anniversary to you and Iggy

Party tonight at Chez 70-Sixtus?

I'm all in.. where should we park the RV's and where do we set up all the tents?

Look for me driving up 95 today. I will be the one driving the refrigerated beer truck modified with Macintosh amps and stacks of JBL speakers neatly arranged in symmetrical line arrays.

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