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    Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.

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  • #5601
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    10/16/89 i do like that show

    Good call for today!! Just got done biking. Trees here in Rhode Island are looking like the cover of Dick's Pick that has the Landover and Syracuse September 76 shows!! We'll see summer come again.... Feel ambitious also am going to put on the LSU birthday show after from 77... enjoy the weekend everyone Bob t

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    Happy Birthday Bob!

    Been hearing some great music this week.

    After the deep dive into 10/14/80 on Wednesday (great tape with a couple small issues & the audience recording is real nice too, overall not too shabby for a bootleg!) Thursday's Deadcast presented us with a deep dive into the Warfield shows.

    Serendipity?

    That episode was fascinating, and the supplementary material is highly recommended. I believe based on some quick sleuthing that the live footage in the mini-doc seems to be from 10/13/80, as they show footage of an Around And Around > Johnny B. Goode as well as The Other One and all those tunes were played on 10/13. Plus from the sounds of things, the filming took place more towards the end of the run based on Bill Graham's decision to document the occasion. Well done Mr. Graham! And Mr. Jarnow!

    Bounced from that to 10/15/84, which is a personal favorite. I love October '84. The PITB on this show is real good, and Jerry's furious fanning burst in Wharf Rat gives me a smile every time. Good stuff and again I have to give some props to the Audience recording by Rick Pauline, it's a really great capture.

    Add in the newly released American Beauty The Angel's Share outtakes which are amazing.
    DaP V36 Announcement of Dave's First & Charlie Miller's favorite '87 show. (Note: CM mentions that he really likes 3/26/87, so I don't wanna presume too much)
    Some killer Garcia interviews from '81 & '83.
    Damn it was a Grateful Day!

    Today as you all venture forth into a Nightfall of Diamonds, I've noticed some cosmic 1981 nods.
    Jam of the Week has a little bit of 5/2/81 which is sounding real nice and our good pal Bolo mentioned 3/28/81 on the DaP V36 forum. Speaking of... lil bit dicey over there.

    Alright, lots to listen too!
    Shall we go, you and I, while we can?

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    Ha.. so funny you mention that. I had a big day and went to decompress in the tub last night.. didn't quite have the time or energy for 10/14/80 and picked nightfall instead somewhat randomly. I made it through the first set and just dipped my big toe into the second set before I had to help with homework and put my son down for the night.

    ...and I was unconsciously comparing this to Hampton, not something I often do. I think Nightfall is more polished, it flows better and it might just sound a little better too. I think Hampton sounds good but I have always been critical of the mix. The instrumentation sounds cluttered and Nightfall has a little better separation. It's probably a better show, but it doesn't have the surprise and excitement of the Hamptons. Oro alluded to this a couple weeks ago, 10/8 might just be a better show overall than 10/9, but the DS, DDHNM and Attics, like watching BAR BAR BAR come up on the slot machine.

    I think Nightfall might just be better. The sound felt better and the vocals, again.. just a touch better?. The show is likely just as good, but I wouldn't trade it for either of the Hampton shows. The best word choice I can come up with is in the same league. I might add to this after I listen to the rest of the second set later today. So funny to hear this mentioned after my deep dive into the first set last night. Serendipitous.

    I'm staying away from the 36 thread for a while.. poor ventilation and too few porta-potties.. somebody should light a match or spray some Febreze or something. Visualizing a modified fire hose that instead of spraying water to cool everyone off on a that horrid, hottest day of the summer tour, it contains a foaming mixture of cleansing spring scents with just enough sanitizer to cut through the stench. Wash all my troubles away....

    Edit: I lied.. had to reply to the book reference on the cover art. I like to read.

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    Listened to all three sets. Vast amount of focused music.
    Stay safe, be well.

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    Time for The Nightfall of Diamonds release today, 10/16/1989. How does it compare to the Warlocks show.

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    Found a hilarious interview that Jerry and Bob did in 1980! It’s linked below!
    https://youtu.be/kzFQVIncM64

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    Oroborous, Donna Summers? Okay, I will have to admit I haven't heard a Donna Summers tune in a long, long time.

    And then there is the Dead, made it through so many different eras and stuck to their guns, thank god. Never waivered.

    I think Dave's chat put the idea of a second box set for 2020 to rest. It is not going to happen. Bummer.

    #36 with two complete shows is a great bonus however, can't wait.

    Stay well out there.

    Edit. Okay I did and still do like Earth, Wind and Fire. Not sure if they are considered Disco?

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    Otis, Wilfred, Gra8fulgal and the rest of ya knuckleheads!
    Buenos Dias!
    10/15 another of those “days”...Remembering my ma 2016, first and only St Stephen 1983, My only Florida shows including 10/15/88, etc, etc, some days just seem to have more happen? Like just minutes away from the Big Chat!!
    But today we’re going to continue on with 10/15/89. Been through 10/14 a bit and really enjoyed it.
    Starts out pretty standard, decent performance and energy. Followed by a nice FOTD one of only 2 (10/25) on the tour.
    Then after Bobs quick psychedelic cowpoke side trip, we get a sweet first set closing of Help>>Slip>>Franks!
    This set started out with a nice relaxed vibe that built nicely into a real treat. Second set picks right up where they left off with a nice Foolish Heart, good WomenR, but perhaps not quite the fire of the summer versions i.e., 7/4/89.
    But the big surprise, ok, we’ll after the H-S-F, was a nice Stand alone Scarlet, followed up by Truckin’ leading the trip into the Weird Zone, which is another 89 space fest. Out the other side with another surprise and the only China Doll of the tour, and fourth of only four for the year! Perhaps presenting this chestnut is how they get away with a quick Saturday night show on this NY crowd? Though now that I look, it’s close to 140 minutes, so mostly looks short on paper I guess?
    But non the less, after the China Doll, big Rocking One Mo Saturday to bring it home, and a Muddy River to send em out into the night with a peaceful easy feeling.
    Not gonna say it quite hangs with the big dogs on the tour, but it could definitely work as “filler” on a box due to cool set list and the big carrot for me, multi-track madness! Ok, onward! Today’s first call is 10/15/89, but with all kinds of other great suggestions going on here. Want to check out that 84, in fact if anyone wants more 84, I can recommend 10/20/84!
    Still looking to find the Stayin Alive madness y’all were on about 4/24/78. That sounds like must hear viewing!
    STAYING ALIVE: funny, I hated that shit back in the day....loathed it, aaaaaa, like the closed minded yute I was, pretty much couldn’t tolerate anything popular....”not cool” idiot! Anyway, some of that music like a lot of things, has really grown on me. Don’t get me wrong I don’t go up to the stereo room on Friday nights, get properly tuned and go for the disco. But occasionally when the stars align I admit I can dig some disco! I even made a 2 disc volume of hits of my choosing that I call “Pedro Mix”. I’ve done this with several artists of genres and did the Disc mix for my buddy and former associate’s kid. He’s liked many of my mixes, especially the Soul Jazz, so asked me to make a disco mix for his little girl who was getting the Boogie Fever! They loved it, my misses really loves it (“anything but dead”) LOL, and I do too!
    Some time, when your feeling extra groovy 😉, fire up Donna Summers I Feel Love on a good system and deep listen in the captains chair, loud of course! Follow that with Stayin Alive, and see if that doesn’t get ya outta the chair! We all ripped on the Bee-Gees back in the day, and some for good reason, but my cousin worked on their studio a bunch back in I think the 90s and he said they were cool as shit and NOBOODY to this day, even his buddy Lenny K, smokes as much weed as the them! Too funny!
    I love the stuff that comes round here that jump starts all kinds of thoughts and memories!
    Oh, damn, time for Dave! Shlater Dead Fiends!

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    Glad to hear a head is sharing knowledge with the next generation!

    Proud of you Otis, keep up the good fight.

    Stick with 10/15/84 through set 2. Gotta hear Jerry's fanning in Wharf Rat.. I love it.

    BTW can't get enough of this 1970 cache of studio outtakes.
    Props to Dead.net on this day of announcement (fingers crossed)
    I really wanted some 1970 this year.. preferably never-before-released or tapes we thought lost (9/17 & 9/19 looking at you) and what'd they do?
    Gave us a treasure trove of unknown studio outtakes from both 1970 albums.
    Hot damn!

    My inability to see into the future goes unchallenged ;)
    This Attics demo, wow just wow.
    "Where I come from an unreleased acoustic set from 1970, that's big news" - Jesse Jarnow

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    Thanks! Yeah, I've been in silent lurker mode these past few weeks (months? years? I no longer understand time...) Been barely keeping my head above water in this "virtual" teaching world.

    On the 84 Bird Song now, and it does sound mighty sweet :) Probably move on to the Shrine 76 show for some more listening later on today if possible.

    Peace

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Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.
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Submitted by Slow Dog Noodle on Tue, 01/12/2021 - 10:23

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History doesn't repeat itself, but it often rhymes.

- Mark Twain

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Submitted by billy the kid on Tue, 01/12/2021 - 11:15

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Good show, I don't think it comes up to level of the Feb/March Fillmore West shows, but enjoyable for sure. Funny, as I listen to this I enjoyed Garcia's guitar playing , just the guitar playing, from yesterday's show 10/24/79, just as much as I enjoy his guitar playing from this show, 4/21/69. Anyway, great pick.

How can you have any pudding if you don't eat yer meat?!?!

Well, I suppose I went just for the "pudding" yesterday, as I only listened to Set 2, but I did enjoy what I heard. I agree with those who point out that this is not the strongest show of the tour, but I just love this period, and I enjoyed the whole 2nd set. Flaming hot Fire, and even with the vocal flubs in Terrapin, the rest of the set flows nicely. Strong Wharf Rat too! I'm a fan of good sounding AUDs too, and this one certainly does sound pretty sweet.

4/21/69 - the first night of the Ark. I think I might cherry-pick this one with a few songs from set 1 (TOO Suite) and most of set 2 (I'll probably skip a good portion of Lovelight... currently ducking to avoid the tomatoes! :) I do LOVE Sitting On Top of the World!

Almost to hump day!

Peace

No tomatoes from me.

I appreciate Lovelight more as time passes, but it can get repetitive and....

Now the ones i have heard from march 68 and earlier bounce more instead of drag, which is a good thing

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Submitted by carlo13 on Tue, 01/12/2021 - 17:31

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I tend to love any dead that lasts long. Like pitb - lovelight - eyes - smokestack - alligator - and all that great stuff that you can listen to while partying or sex or both together. I know.... way too much info.

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Submitted by DeadVikes on Tue, 01/12/2021 - 21:51

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Wait a second Carlo, sex and the Dead. Okay, that cracked me up.

Wait a second honey, listen to this transition into I Know you Rider!

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Submitted by carlo13 on Tue, 01/12/2021 - 21:57

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"Giddy-up." Like kramer would say.

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Submitted by Oroborous on Wed, 01/13/2021 - 08:01

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Carlo, LOL, reminds me of when George was trying to have it all: sex, pastrami, AND the Yankees all at the same time!

69 no doubt is fine. Sitting on Top always welcome. But another in the “have to be in the mood” LL camp, but that doesn’t mean ya gotta throw grease! ; ) Did Viola seem a little underwhelming, or was that just me?

Did Ready or Not afterwards. Really digging this 90s stuff, well, not so much the Vince tunes....

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Submitted by JoshByTheBay on Wed, 01/13/2021 - 08:31

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Since we just did the first night at the Ark, I was thinking we can mix the ying and the yang with some 1/10/79 from Nassau Coliseum. Honestly, one of my favorite second sets ever, and that speaks volumes. Pre Drums is a powerhouse.

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Submitted by DeadVikes on Wed, 01/13/2021 - 11:32

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Okay Josh, looks like a Dr. Bob Wagner audience recording for this show. I will check it out this afternoon. Thanks for the pick.

Everybody hang loose.

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Submitted by The Good Ole G… on Thu, 01/14/2021 - 07:24

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Nice pick JOSHBYTHEBAY

That Set 2 is always fun to listen too and it really hit the spot yesterday!
Enjoyed that.

I was struck by a few things as I usually am when I listen to this show.
First off the amazing recording by Dr. Bob!
Recording technique & equipment had some major advancement between say '73-'79.
Jerry sings "Sweet Susie” in Loser, that makes it for me.
Love how that Head on tape figures out it's gonna be Dark Star and you can hear the stoke!
Space was still an odd occurrence.

The reviewer in Taper's Compendium was at these shows and he was saying that rumors before the show were that they'd played Dark Star & St. Stephen recently. But he didn't really believe them because rumors were so wild back then.

Reading that I was struck thinking about it. Having grown up essentially always listening and loving 12/31/78 and considering it an upper echelon GD show and legendary. It's crazy to think of a time when Ten days after that show no one knew the set list, what happened or the songs played!

Simpler times... Fun to think about.
Golden age for information now (and misinformation too).

You're still here?!?

Well alright then, the other thing I was struck by...
The reviewer states the hotter show played was the next night 1/11/79

I gotta test that theory today as nothing on this setlist sticks out to me and I really don't recall listening to it often.

See what this show does for my memory.
Good Sugaree to start.

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Submitted by DeadVikes on Thu, 01/14/2021 - 21:33

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Looking at 9/6/1980 for tommorow's pick. Some of you were at this show, I have never heard it, but the story behind the show seems interesting. Last show before the Warfield.

Yes, do I think 1980 is still lost in space, (per Oroborous), absolutely!

Is it time for more? Let's hope. Giving this one a go.

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Submitted by Thats_Otis on Fri, 01/15/2021 - 05:30

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Looks like DeadVikes has picked 9/6/80, which is a show I have never heard before either. Sounds like a pretty awesome day up in Maine! LOOOONNNG show, interesting setlist, let's do it!

I did a little fishing around the ol' Archive - there are a lot of copies of this one - and I picked two sources that sound pretty good. The first is a SBD/AUD Matrix, mastered by good man Charlie Miller:

https://archive.org/details/gd80-09-06.sbd_aud.miller.25560.sbeok.shnf/…

The second is a straight AUD (looks to be a Jim Wise recording). In the quick sound comparison I did (a few minutes of China Cat, Shakedown, and Mexicali,) I think it sounds a little brighter overall, more bass, better balance, etc., though there is a bit of tape warble (at least I heard it on Mexicali...):

https://archive.org/details/gd80-09-06.wise.unknown.322.sbeok.shnf/gd80…

On both copies the vocals, particularly Jerry's, sound pretty distant. If anyone knows of or finds a better source, please let me know!

Happy listening, HAPPY FRIDAY, and stay safe out there!

Peace

I'm in.. thanks dvikes.

I haven't listened to this show in forever and a day. I'm through the first set and still fumbling for the best version.

Anyway.. even though we just listened to a 79 this feels like a nice change of pace and hits the spot. I don't listen to a ton of 1980. I listened to the deadset centric shows to death decades ago and as much as I love the acoustic material, when I am in the mood, it's awesome but I must admit I like the electric edge.

Lately.. it's the Nov Dec run from 1980 that I find myself hitting the most.

Be kind folks.. it's Happy Friday where I sit. Been working a bit more than usual lately, planning on how to optimize my day. I should finish this show before my day is done, I might switch things up for Friday part 2.

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Submitted by DeadVikes on Fri, 01/15/2021 - 07:33

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Otis and Jim,

I listen through Relisten via my Sonos. The version I am listening to is a SBD/Aud, which was the first choice on the list. The vocals sound really clear as well as the rest of the band.
This definitely is not a new polished copy, imagine if it was?
Future release?

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Submitted by billy the kid on Fri, 01/15/2021 - 07:44

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Great pick Dead Vikes. Well this certainly is a long show, and it starts out with great versions of Alabama/Greatest Story, the Dead are full of energy. Then they do a killer version of Sugaree. After a great 3 song start they play 7 songs that are very pedestrian and not much to write home about, Garcia's guitar playing sounds good on these songs but other than that, time to head to the beer garden and have a few beers. They get their energy back that they showed in the 1st 3 songs and end the 1st set with really great versions of China/Rider and Promised Land. Notes, not to fond of Brent's synthesizer playing on Alabama, Weirs slide playing on Little Red Rooster, not very enjoyable. Garcia's slide playing on Little Red Rooster is what always made the Dead's version cool, Weirs singing is ok, but pales in comparison to HowlinWolf.

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Submitted by DeadVikes on Fri, 01/15/2021 - 09:02

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Okay, so the recording goes to the audience portion at China Cat and there is a drop off for sure. Hope it goes back.

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Submitted by Slow Dog Noodle on Fri, 01/15/2021 - 09:30

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Fantastic choice. I love this show. I think it may be the best show from '80 that i've heard, but maybe because this aud is so good. Thanks Jim Wise!

Can't wait to listen to this show again. Lemieux, if you're follow this adventure we've been having over the last year so so, please put this show at the top of your list for release. 🤞

Edit: That Fox show from Atlanta (11-30-80) that was Dave's #8 was a very fine '80 show too.

Looking good Winthorpe!
Don’t think I’ve ever heard this one? Love me some 80 Dead. Saw excellent show on 9/2, and we have the under the radar DL shows in between....
1/10/79: this one I’ve heard for the obvious reasons plus it’s a cousin to my first show 10 days later. Really dug this one. Is that TMNS set closer a rager er what? Did 1/11/79 too, but that one didn’t resonate as much, though I was busy...
Gonna try and get to some more 90s released stuff this weekend.
Happy Friday!

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Submitted by billy the kid on Fri, 01/15/2021 - 12:26

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Killer 2nd set, I give it a 10 out of 10, excellent from.start to finish. Great choice Dead Vikes.

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Submitted by JimInMD on Sat, 01/16/2021 - 08:44

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I ended up listening to the soundboard for Set I and the Jim Wise for Set II. I wonder what happened to the rest of the board? In any case.. a nice palate cleanser and a hot show from a great year.

What's on tap today? Did we do 2/22/74 yet? I'm contemplating that one.. if we did that how about 2/23.

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Submitted by bluecrow on Sat, 01/16/2021 - 09:18

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was listening to this early Dec. - 1st set ends with Death Don't Have No Mercy
1st set only (Charlie Miller / Sir Mick hands on) - https://relisten.net/grateful-dead/1970/01/16?source=103821 (tracking is off)
full show - https://relisten.net/grateful-dead/1970/01/16?source=88884

and for tomorrow maybe head next door to Oregon State 1/17/70 - https://relisten.net/grateful-dead/1970/01/17

be well everybody - it may seem a ways off but spring is coming

I both have not listened to this before and do not have it in my electronic world.. I had this show confused with the Download Series #2 show, which was apparently just one set two days later, with a show in the middle (Oregon State University in Corvallis).

I am going with the Charlie Miller first set and the droncit?? version I cobbled together with the second set. The sound is nice.. if I have time I am going to do this one and the next two nights (Corvallis and the Digital Download Series 2 from the same venue).

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Submitted by Oroborous on Sat, 01/16/2021 - 10:48

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Great show! Thanks to vguy for the write ups, if I’d a been a little older that’s the kind of place I’d of gone the extra to get there. Always loved the outta the way venues. Bet the vibe was pretty chill. Oxford was fun, but I’m guessing way bigger/crazier then Lewiston.

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Sat, 01/16/2021 - 13:22

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...."plays a golden string fiddle to a double E waterfall over my back. Move it!!" Fuck yeah Jerry! Him getting all excited and shit makes me get all excited and shit.

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Submitted by billy the kid on Sat, 01/16/2021 - 14:57

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Brutal, Cumberland cuts out.

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Submitted by billy the kid on Sat, 01/16/2021 - 14:58

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Brutal, Cumberland cuts out.

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Submitted by billy the kid on Sat, 01/16/2021 - 14:58

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Great pick, it would definitely be on my bbq and beer drinking list.

Move it!! (ha - hadn't caught that)

Both 1/16 and 1/17 kick heavy. Listened through the two again today. Sweet mix of Live Dead era and Working Man's. Sound quality overall is very good to excellent - a few drop outs but still totally satisfying. First time around that Death Don't came as a total and emotional surprise as I hadn't really scoped the set list. Not expecting 'cause its '70 - my aging deadbase shows its a second to last before the long hiatus. Among fine detail that caught my ear in the larger 1/16 excellence was some of that early Mickey percussion. Just now the 1/17 Dark Star > Stephen > Eleven was all systems go go go.
The Download Series is the one major gap in my "officially released" collection. Wasn't in the position to take advantage of at the time. Didn't even know about 1/18 being part of that. Need to revisit that series.
I think the Hawaii shows from following week were up here not too long ago but its been awhile since personally dived in so will head there soon. Looking forward to Fox Theatre - 2/6/70 (DaP 6) - one of my favorites. The whole 50th for Working Mans and American Beauty really got me going on this era.
Edit - didn't mention the cut to 1/16 Cumberland cause I didn't want that "small" negative to define it . . . . : )

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Submitted by JimInMD on Sat, 01/16/2021 - 18:51

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Adding 1/17 only makes it better. These seem to be releasable shows, they might have to address the cuts somehow. Someone's singing is overly loud and off key in Cumberland too.., I think Bobby's. Perhaps his voice broke the tape like the shriek voice broke glass in that old Memorex commercial.

Good choice I had not heard these before. Nice Dark Star too.

Jim, you mentioned 2/22/74, yesterday. Let me know when you want to hit this one up? It is a three set monster.

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Submitted by JimInMD on Sun, 01/17/2021 - 10:38

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I'm ready.. any time.

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Submitted by DeadVikes on Sun, 01/17/2021 - 11:10

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Good call on this one Jim, I have it going.

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Sun, 01/17/2021 - 12:28

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....twist my arm.
Lmao. Jerry blowing the US Blues lyrics right out of the gate. Gotta love it. It's part of the charm.
"We're all confused. What's to lose."
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Submitted by JimInMD on Sun, 01/17/2021 - 22:01

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I forgot how good the PITB was from this show. I was in a great situation to listen today.. and about a third of the way into this song I felt it was ho, hum.. Another three minutes and I realized how wrong I was and good this Playing is..

Is this the first flirtations with Slipknot!? I forget if they played with the theme in '73 or not.

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Mon, 01/18/2021 - 07:45

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....Cal Expo 8.5.89.
https://relisten.net/grateful-dead/1989/08/05
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One More Saturday Night
Cold Rain & Snow
We Can Run
Stagger Lee
Memphis blues
Row jimmy
Let It Grow
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Hey Pocky Way ->
Playin' In The Band ->
I Know Your Rider ->
Terrapin Station ->
Drums ->
Space ->
Standing On The Moon ->
Throwing Stones ->
Not Fade Away
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US Blues
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Features a OMSN and CR&S one two punch opener and a stand alone Rider.
I was lucky enough to be present and accounted for at this run.