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    Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.

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    yes, a favorite version - as you say "absolutely cooking" - a highlight from that release. Got me thinking that I didn't recall any from spring tour and sure enough they took a break from song from early Oct. '76 until Fall Tour '77. hadn't picked up on that gap before.

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    A great song.. I'm a big fan from all era's. I do like the intensity in Jerry's playing on some of the later versions. Mid 80's and 89/90 come to mind. I also like how the midi can work with that song when they tweak it just right.

    Anyway.. agree, great tune with or without the WRS intro.

    Edit, I would add if you judge the song simply on Jerry's playing this one's similar to Jack Straw. Up to a point, the more it got played the more ferocious and incendiary the guitar. In one of my early shows, forget which one it was the Let It Grow that I left me slack jawed and scratching my head when the dust settled after the first set. And about six months later I got either the same tape or one from the same tour and I just couldn't get enough of it for the next 8 to 12 months.

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    For me it's probably a toss up between the DP 33 Franklin's Tower and the Go To Nassau version, which was my first. Yeah, they're all good, but Jerry is particularly loud and animated on these two performances. Good suggestion on Day at the Green.

    Speaking of Help / Slip / Franklin's, today is the anniversary of the last one they played in the 70's (Road Trips '77). I think this one went out with more of a fizzle than a bang, at least as far as Slipknot! was concerned (there's not too far to go in 4 minutes - possibly an all time short after '75) . I think the Franklin's Tower is decent, and actually has a great jam /solo toward the end, but there were a lot of steamrollers prior to 10/11, so it had those to live up to by comparison. They didn't play the triad much at all compared to Scarlet Fire (almost double) or Estimated-Eyes (I didn't count this pairing but I'm pretty sure it received a lot more play). This is odd to me, but they did a lot of odd things with their song rotations. But there you have it - this is the day. I was lucky enough to catch them play Help /Slip / Franklin's for the last time with Jerry up in Albany, June 22, 1995. Funny thing about that show is I had no idea Jerry was in poor health and I though it was great. The video doesn't confirm this, but it just goes to show you how much different it is being there.

    Speaking of 10/11/77 - the Let it Grow absolutely cooks - top 3 post-hiatus versions for me. Go figure.

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    When nothing is done, nothing is left undone.

    Suits my personality to a tee!

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    Glad I’m not the only one!

    Jim, sounds like we use similar methodology: I really don’t feel like doing this, but I have too, and I don’t have much time, so let’s mess things up rushing, so now it can take three times as long as going slow and doing it right once, lol
    You should see my Swiss cheesed basement. Had to move my surround wires, thought, meh, 2 three holes with the 6” hole saw, pop em back in and mud em, no problem....cue the Gilligan island song!

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    I forgot we did Day on the Green already. Just rolling with the flow. I am behind anyway.. pesky work and bad cuts for my exterior trim means I have to both do my day job a little and redo some work I did earlier in the week. Redoing always longer than just doing things right in the first place. Argh.. I knew better and in the interest of expediency, I am taking a project that was time consuming enough to begin with and quadrupling the time it will ultimately end up taking.

    But at least I have good music to listen to when I unwind tonight.

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    Not sure I’m familiar with 10/9/82, 10/10 has always been a favorite. A top LL Rain fo sho...

    DP 33, just did this, but it’s new for me so I’ll try in sneak er in...

    HAMPTON 89: still reeling from last night. After doing 10/8 again during the day as I continue to make a big mess of my basement theater room lol. Did 10/9 at night, proper, including a little chocolate for the first time since this darkness. Too nervous too get that loose I guess? Haven’t felt comfortable freaking freely...Man it’s funny how fast your tolerance can go away lol. Same with beer as I didn’t partake of any alcohol for 8 weeks. Had 2 last Friday and felt like five! It’s starting to come back again, like riding a bike lol, but I’m going to try and keep it on low. Shit is just getting too hard on the worn out organs etc. Anyway, got in a real nice warm groove and listened on the big boy system, smooothh indeed!
    Forgot how great these shows are, though I can understand how some folks see em similar to Cornell regarding the hype. Meaning their great shows but if you weren’t there or didn’t know anything about them you might not be quite as enthusiastic? Sorry, not coming out right? But I totally don’t understand how so many are nonplussed by these shows? I do feel that similarly to say 3/27/88 or 10/14/83, the recording doesn’t quite do the show justice...if I hadn’t been there I’m sure I wouldn’t feel that way, but it just seems a little compressed? Doesn't breath enough?
    Though I wasn’t at Jersey, I still think maybe 10/16 is overall at least the best show released so far, if not the best of the tour? That of course is subjective/debatable, but I listened to the 10/16 Dark Star immediately after Hampton and I think it sounds better audio wise at least. Definitely think I like the Hampton Dark Star better, including the 10/26 which I went to following 10/16. The first two are technically better, and Jer flubs the second verse a bit on 10/26, but man that last 10 minutes of weirdness that follows is awesome! So much psychedelic gooey madness on this tour. It amazes me how this tour kinda goes under the radar? Summer 89 and spring 90 get all the love, but I’ll take fall 89 anytime. Summer is obviously great as evidenced by all the releases, and Weir has always spoke highly of it. And Spring 90 needs no props, but it’s almost too clean, too perfect if you will. The pinnacle of the rise, while fall their still reaching for it. Fall 89 has an element of danger, especially with the midi and effects. It’s not so new that their still figuring it out, but it’s still new enough that their going for it, experimenting, and learning to normalize it like any other technology in their arsenal. I think Gollum or someone kinda touched on this. It’s such a good tour, I’m really looking forward to getting to know all the shows.

    GENNY CREAM ALE: too funny! Genessee was the main stream working mans swill, our fathers generation, we wouldn't touch that shit. (We were hardcore PBR fans)and the Cream Ale was worse, everyone in WNY wouldn’t go there for fear of the dreaded GENNY Screamers lol. For decades it was at the stadium, concerts, they had all the big contracts. Kinda like how New Belgium is here now. Now GCA is micro brew at micro brew prices! Supposedly they’ve made some significant changes. In fact my cousin was at the Brew Pub back in Chrotchfester a few years back and they said it was awesome. Great place and many of the beers were excellent. Not sure he tried the Screamers though?
    So DHBrewer, curious how you liked it?

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    This one is getting a workout. Love this release. I am on it.

    I always thought the caveat emptor was interesting on this release. Absolutely perfect!

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    That will fit nicely into my weekend.

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    sorry Jimbo and Deadvikes, I didn't see the recommendation or was too busy to check in that day. I don't know about you guys, but all of this quarantine work from home stuff just makes all the days combine...

    I remember this one though, because it has a Foolish Heart, and that was one of my first Dead songs, so I was on a stretch a while back listening to a lot of Foolish Hearts. But I recall the entire set list was stacked so I left it going. May need to remove something from my phone and re-upload this one.

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Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.
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Submitted by Slow Dog Noodle on Tue, 01/12/2021 - 10:23

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History doesn't repeat itself, but it often rhymes.

- Mark Twain

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Submitted by billy the kid on Tue, 01/12/2021 - 11:15

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Good show, I don't think it comes up to level of the Feb/March Fillmore West shows, but enjoyable for sure. Funny, as I listen to this I enjoyed Garcia's guitar playing , just the guitar playing, from yesterday's show 10/24/79, just as much as I enjoy his guitar playing from this show, 4/21/69. Anyway, great pick.

How can you have any pudding if you don't eat yer meat?!?!

Well, I suppose I went just for the "pudding" yesterday, as I only listened to Set 2, but I did enjoy what I heard. I agree with those who point out that this is not the strongest show of the tour, but I just love this period, and I enjoyed the whole 2nd set. Flaming hot Fire, and even with the vocal flubs in Terrapin, the rest of the set flows nicely. Strong Wharf Rat too! I'm a fan of good sounding AUDs too, and this one certainly does sound pretty sweet.

4/21/69 - the first night of the Ark. I think I might cherry-pick this one with a few songs from set 1 (TOO Suite) and most of set 2 (I'll probably skip a good portion of Lovelight... currently ducking to avoid the tomatoes! :) I do LOVE Sitting On Top of the World!

Almost to hump day!

Peace

No tomatoes from me.

I appreciate Lovelight more as time passes, but it can get repetitive and....

Now the ones i have heard from march 68 and earlier bounce more instead of drag, which is a good thing

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Submitted by carlo13 on Tue, 01/12/2021 - 17:31

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I tend to love any dead that lasts long. Like pitb - lovelight - eyes - smokestack - alligator - and all that great stuff that you can listen to while partying or sex or both together. I know.... way too much info.

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Submitted by DeadVikes on Tue, 01/12/2021 - 21:51

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Wait a second Carlo, sex and the Dead. Okay, that cracked me up.

Wait a second honey, listen to this transition into I Know you Rider!

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Submitted by carlo13 on Tue, 01/12/2021 - 21:57

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"Giddy-up." Like kramer would say.

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Submitted by Oroborous on Wed, 01/13/2021 - 08:01

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Carlo, LOL, reminds me of when George was trying to have it all: sex, pastrami, AND the Yankees all at the same time!

69 no doubt is fine. Sitting on Top always welcome. But another in the “have to be in the mood” LL camp, but that doesn’t mean ya gotta throw grease! ; ) Did Viola seem a little underwhelming, or was that just me?

Did Ready or Not afterwards. Really digging this 90s stuff, well, not so much the Vince tunes....

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Submitted by JoshByTheBay on Wed, 01/13/2021 - 08:31

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Since we just did the first night at the Ark, I was thinking we can mix the ying and the yang with some 1/10/79 from Nassau Coliseum. Honestly, one of my favorite second sets ever, and that speaks volumes. Pre Drums is a powerhouse.

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Submitted by DeadVikes on Wed, 01/13/2021 - 11:32

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Okay Josh, looks like a Dr. Bob Wagner audience recording for this show. I will check it out this afternoon. Thanks for the pick.

Everybody hang loose.

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Submitted by The Good Ole G… on Thu, 01/14/2021 - 07:24

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Nice pick JOSHBYTHEBAY

That Set 2 is always fun to listen too and it really hit the spot yesterday!
Enjoyed that.

I was struck by a few things as I usually am when I listen to this show.
First off the amazing recording by Dr. Bob!
Recording technique & equipment had some major advancement between say '73-'79.
Jerry sings "Sweet Susie” in Loser, that makes it for me.
Love how that Head on tape figures out it's gonna be Dark Star and you can hear the stoke!
Space was still an odd occurrence.

The reviewer in Taper's Compendium was at these shows and he was saying that rumors before the show were that they'd played Dark Star & St. Stephen recently. But he didn't really believe them because rumors were so wild back then.

Reading that I was struck thinking about it. Having grown up essentially always listening and loving 12/31/78 and considering it an upper echelon GD show and legendary. It's crazy to think of a time when Ten days after that show no one knew the set list, what happened or the songs played!

Simpler times... Fun to think about.
Golden age for information now (and misinformation too).

You're still here?!?

Well alright then, the other thing I was struck by...
The reviewer states the hotter show played was the next night 1/11/79

I gotta test that theory today as nothing on this setlist sticks out to me and I really don't recall listening to it often.

See what this show does for my memory.
Good Sugaree to start.

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Submitted by DeadVikes on Thu, 01/14/2021 - 21:33

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Looking at 9/6/1980 for tommorow's pick. Some of you were at this show, I have never heard it, but the story behind the show seems interesting. Last show before the Warfield.

Yes, do I think 1980 is still lost in space, (per Oroborous), absolutely!

Is it time for more? Let's hope. Giving this one a go.

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Submitted by Thats_Otis on Fri, 01/15/2021 - 05:30

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Looks like DeadVikes has picked 9/6/80, which is a show I have never heard before either. Sounds like a pretty awesome day up in Maine! LOOOONNNG show, interesting setlist, let's do it!

I did a little fishing around the ol' Archive - there are a lot of copies of this one - and I picked two sources that sound pretty good. The first is a SBD/AUD Matrix, mastered by good man Charlie Miller:

https://archive.org/details/gd80-09-06.sbd_aud.miller.25560.sbeok.shnf/…

The second is a straight AUD (looks to be a Jim Wise recording). In the quick sound comparison I did (a few minutes of China Cat, Shakedown, and Mexicali,) I think it sounds a little brighter overall, more bass, better balance, etc., though there is a bit of tape warble (at least I heard it on Mexicali...):

https://archive.org/details/gd80-09-06.wise.unknown.322.sbeok.shnf/gd80…

On both copies the vocals, particularly Jerry's, sound pretty distant. If anyone knows of or finds a better source, please let me know!

Happy listening, HAPPY FRIDAY, and stay safe out there!

Peace

I'm in.. thanks dvikes.

I haven't listened to this show in forever and a day. I'm through the first set and still fumbling for the best version.

Anyway.. even though we just listened to a 79 this feels like a nice change of pace and hits the spot. I don't listen to a ton of 1980. I listened to the deadset centric shows to death decades ago and as much as I love the acoustic material, when I am in the mood, it's awesome but I must admit I like the electric edge.

Lately.. it's the Nov Dec run from 1980 that I find myself hitting the most.

Be kind folks.. it's Happy Friday where I sit. Been working a bit more than usual lately, planning on how to optimize my day. I should finish this show before my day is done, I might switch things up for Friday part 2.

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Submitted by DeadVikes on Fri, 01/15/2021 - 07:33

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Otis and Jim,

I listen through Relisten via my Sonos. The version I am listening to is a SBD/Aud, which was the first choice on the list. The vocals sound really clear as well as the rest of the band.
This definitely is not a new polished copy, imagine if it was?
Future release?

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Submitted by billy the kid on Fri, 01/15/2021 - 07:44

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Great pick Dead Vikes. Well this certainly is a long show, and it starts out with great versions of Alabama/Greatest Story, the Dead are full of energy. Then they do a killer version of Sugaree. After a great 3 song start they play 7 songs that are very pedestrian and not much to write home about, Garcia's guitar playing sounds good on these songs but other than that, time to head to the beer garden and have a few beers. They get their energy back that they showed in the 1st 3 songs and end the 1st set with really great versions of China/Rider and Promised Land. Notes, not to fond of Brent's synthesizer playing on Alabama, Weirs slide playing on Little Red Rooster, not very enjoyable. Garcia's slide playing on Little Red Rooster is what always made the Dead's version cool, Weirs singing is ok, but pales in comparison to HowlinWolf.

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Submitted by DeadVikes on Fri, 01/15/2021 - 09:02

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Okay, so the recording goes to the audience portion at China Cat and there is a drop off for sure. Hope it goes back.

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Submitted by Slow Dog Noodle on Fri, 01/15/2021 - 09:30

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Fantastic choice. I love this show. I think it may be the best show from '80 that i've heard, but maybe because this aud is so good. Thanks Jim Wise!

Can't wait to listen to this show again. Lemieux, if you're follow this adventure we've been having over the last year so so, please put this show at the top of your list for release. 🤞

Edit: That Fox show from Atlanta (11-30-80) that was Dave's #8 was a very fine '80 show too.

Looking good Winthorpe!
Don’t think I’ve ever heard this one? Love me some 80 Dead. Saw excellent show on 9/2, and we have the under the radar DL shows in between....
1/10/79: this one I’ve heard for the obvious reasons plus it’s a cousin to my first show 10 days later. Really dug this one. Is that TMNS set closer a rager er what? Did 1/11/79 too, but that one didn’t resonate as much, though I was busy...
Gonna try and get to some more 90s released stuff this weekend.
Happy Friday!

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Submitted by billy the kid on Fri, 01/15/2021 - 12:26

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Killer 2nd set, I give it a 10 out of 10, excellent from.start to finish. Great choice Dead Vikes.

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Submitted by JimInMD on Sat, 01/16/2021 - 08:44

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I ended up listening to the soundboard for Set I and the Jim Wise for Set II. I wonder what happened to the rest of the board? In any case.. a nice palate cleanser and a hot show from a great year.

What's on tap today? Did we do 2/22/74 yet? I'm contemplating that one.. if we did that how about 2/23.

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Submitted by bluecrow on Sat, 01/16/2021 - 09:18

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was listening to this early Dec. - 1st set ends with Death Don't Have No Mercy
1st set only (Charlie Miller / Sir Mick hands on) - https://relisten.net/grateful-dead/1970/01/16?source=103821 (tracking is off)
full show - https://relisten.net/grateful-dead/1970/01/16?source=88884

and for tomorrow maybe head next door to Oregon State 1/17/70 - https://relisten.net/grateful-dead/1970/01/17

be well everybody - it may seem a ways off but spring is coming

I both have not listened to this before and do not have it in my electronic world.. I had this show confused with the Download Series #2 show, which was apparently just one set two days later, with a show in the middle (Oregon State University in Corvallis).

I am going with the Charlie Miller first set and the droncit?? version I cobbled together with the second set. The sound is nice.. if I have time I am going to do this one and the next two nights (Corvallis and the Digital Download Series 2 from the same venue).

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Submitted by Oroborous on Sat, 01/16/2021 - 10:48

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Great show! Thanks to vguy for the write ups, if I’d a been a little older that’s the kind of place I’d of gone the extra to get there. Always loved the outta the way venues. Bet the vibe was pretty chill. Oxford was fun, but I’m guessing way bigger/crazier then Lewiston.

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Sat, 01/16/2021 - 13:22

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...."plays a golden string fiddle to a double E waterfall over my back. Move it!!" Fuck yeah Jerry! Him getting all excited and shit makes me get all excited and shit.

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Submitted by billy the kid on Sat, 01/16/2021 - 14:57

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Brutal, Cumberland cuts out.

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Submitted by billy the kid on Sat, 01/16/2021 - 14:58

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Brutal, Cumberland cuts out.

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Submitted by billy the kid on Sat, 01/16/2021 - 14:58

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Great pick, it would definitely be on my bbq and beer drinking list.

Move it!! (ha - hadn't caught that)

Both 1/16 and 1/17 kick heavy. Listened through the two again today. Sweet mix of Live Dead era and Working Man's. Sound quality overall is very good to excellent - a few drop outs but still totally satisfying. First time around that Death Don't came as a total and emotional surprise as I hadn't really scoped the set list. Not expecting 'cause its '70 - my aging deadbase shows its a second to last before the long hiatus. Among fine detail that caught my ear in the larger 1/16 excellence was some of that early Mickey percussion. Just now the 1/17 Dark Star > Stephen > Eleven was all systems go go go.
The Download Series is the one major gap in my "officially released" collection. Wasn't in the position to take advantage of at the time. Didn't even know about 1/18 being part of that. Need to revisit that series.
I think the Hawaii shows from following week were up here not too long ago but its been awhile since personally dived in so will head there soon. Looking forward to Fox Theatre - 2/6/70 (DaP 6) - one of my favorites. The whole 50th for Working Mans and American Beauty really got me going on this era.
Edit - didn't mention the cut to 1/16 Cumberland cause I didn't want that "small" negative to define it . . . . : )

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Submitted by JimInMD on Sat, 01/16/2021 - 18:51

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Adding 1/17 only makes it better. These seem to be releasable shows, they might have to address the cuts somehow. Someone's singing is overly loud and off key in Cumberland too.., I think Bobby's. Perhaps his voice broke the tape like the shriek voice broke glass in that old Memorex commercial.

Good choice I had not heard these before. Nice Dark Star too.

Jim, you mentioned 2/22/74, yesterday. Let me know when you want to hit this one up? It is a three set monster.

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Submitted by JimInMD on Sun, 01/17/2021 - 10:38

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I'm ready.. any time.

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Submitted by DeadVikes on Sun, 01/17/2021 - 11:10

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Good call on this one Jim, I have it going.

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Sun, 01/17/2021 - 12:28

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....twist my arm.
Lmao. Jerry blowing the US Blues lyrics right out of the gate. Gotta love it. It's part of the charm.
"We're all confused. What's to lose."
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Submitted by JimInMD on Sun, 01/17/2021 - 22:01

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I forgot how good the PITB was from this show. I was in a great situation to listen today.. and about a third of the way into this song I felt it was ho, hum.. Another three minutes and I realized how wrong I was and good this Playing is..

Is this the first flirtations with Slipknot!? I forget if they played with the theme in '73 or not.

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Mon, 01/18/2021 - 07:45

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....Cal Expo 8.5.89.
https://relisten.net/grateful-dead/1989/08/05
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One More Saturday Night
Cold Rain & Snow
We Can Run
Stagger Lee
Memphis blues
Row jimmy
Let It Grow
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Hey Pocky Way ->
Playin' In The Band ->
I Know Your Rider ->
Terrapin Station ->
Drums ->
Space ->
Standing On The Moon ->
Throwing Stones ->
Not Fade Away
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US Blues
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Features a OMSN and CR&S one two punch opener and a stand alone Rider.
I was lucky enough to be present and accounted for at this run.