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    Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.

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  • #5621
    Slow Dog Noodle
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    Yes, I was totally trolling Jim and his Stayin Alive comments by picking 4-24-78. Bobby is laughing during the whole MAMU trying to keep its western sensibilities as Keith and the drummers do their best to force a Stayin Alive segue. We were probably all saved only because no one knew the words.

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    10.14.80 Sounds grate!....

    ....diving in.

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    DV - You read my mind... or Cousins Of The's post :)

    Both are cool!

    BTW if you want some of that amazing Acoustic action -
    Acoustic Set opening 2 Tracks -
    https://archive.org/details/gd1980-10-14.108883.sbd-stanley.blackwood-w…
    Cassidy, All Around This World, China Doll & Birdsong are on Reckoning
    IMHBTR, Monkey, Heaven Help The Fool & Ripple are Audience only here -
    https://archive.org/details/gd1980-10-14.fob-nak700.ellner-marino.gmb.8…

    Good call ya all!

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    Okay, how does 10/14/1980 sound? The last night at the Warfield.

    There is a good Miller soundboard for sets 2 and 3. Unfortunately, the acoustic first set is missing.

    Stay well out there.

    I think we have Oroborous pick on Friday for 10/16/89, Night Fall of Diamonds. Looking forward to hitting that up again.

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    My first Dave's Picks. Bought it off EBAY right around the time DAP 11 was released. I read about the 2.5 minute jam in Music Never Stopped on Heady Version; the jam starts at 3:20 and is absolutuely mesmerizing. It's the only reason I bought the CD. I had no intention of buying anymore two tracks, but my need to have the best live version of everything is overwhelming sometimes. And of course I later found out there are no best versions only several best versions. But this one is hot.

    The Music Never Stopped jam used to be non-existent, but by October '77 Road Trips you can hear a pretty good one, as well as DP 18. There are some other good ones out there in '78 but, I think this is the MOAB.

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    And Big River

    And at the beginning of Big River. This is a good show. Really like the It Must Have been the Roses, Passenger. Solid Scarlet Fire, Black Peter, Werewolves of London encore is fun.

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    Staying Alive Tease

    I completely forgot about that. Let's just be thankful they changed their mind.

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    Nice little Stayin' Alive tease right before MAMU for you Jim.

    Or was that part of the plan Slow Dog Noodle?

    Either way, pretty funny.

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    Sorry, been slacking here trying to get some work on my theater finished.
    FALL 73: I did finish that last week. Believe I left off with a fine 9/21/73 Rectum show.
    From what I can recall lol, 9/24&26/73 were pretty similar, actually, not surprisingly, not a lot of variety on this tour in general. Makes sense considering the focus on the new material and the use of supplementary musicians for this new material.
    In fact, the biggest trend I noticed on this mini tour, was that by the end, all “that” was relegated to the last part of the show, with the horn guys only on Eyes, WRS, and Sugar Magnolia. Early on, besides the aforementioned, they were on Truckin’ and occasionally elsewhere, and of course Let Me Sing. It’s a shame that one fell by the wayside but I’m guessing Keith’s shyness and having to be the front man singing was just never going to work?
    Anyway, Boo fa falo had a nice Here’s Comes a Sunshine, and I believe the tours only Sing Me Back Home, while the Burg had a nobodies, and of course overall many nice status quo Playin’s on the tour. Really glad I finally went through these, shitty tapes and all, interesting tour and yet another cool adventure by the boys to take it furthur!

    I can see why this probably wouldn’t get a full box treatment, but considering the historical elements, the new material, and the fine playing you would think a small 2-3 show release would be appropriate. I agree with the consensus that 9/11/73 is a must. All the above greatness while fresh and obviously fun for them, with a sweet Dark Star too. All that’s missing is a HCS! Next I’d say I concur with brother Bluecrow about 9/17/73 at Syracuse, with perhaps one from either Pittsburg or Buffalo thrown in to document the tour/horn/set list progression. So glad I finally went there, can’t believe it took me so long especially since fall/winter 73 has long been one of my top say five tours. It’s like a nice appetizer for that giant feast that followed!
    Ok, speaking of favorite tours, on to FALL 89.

    Did 10/11&12/89 2/3 times over the last couple days while I made a mess of my basement lol.
    Main thing I can say is it’s tough to follow those Hampton shows! Both 11&12 are good status quo 89 shows (mostly good, a few lesser moments too), but overall enjoyable sets, playing, energy etc, but I kept saying to myself, especially for 9/11 “these are hangover shows”.....You can literally feel the “elephant” and it’s energy have left the room so to speak. But since there has to be a “next” show, in typical GD workmen like fashion, they pick up the load and carry on.
    Like a Monday after a big party/reunion weekend!
    So far on the tour Jers been pretty strong and consistent, Bob, not so much? Brent was good in Hampton, but not as much here, even my fav Little light is perhaps that? Decent Pockey way and mostly good support work...enjoyed that whole sequence on 10/12 with an always fun second set Cumberland! Bob tries to steal one of Jerry’s versus which lends a palpable lift to the overall vibe such that you feel them all smiling at each other and it makes you smile too. I love these little nuances that shine through the Dead’s music.
    So perhaps these aren’t top shelf, If they lived in a different space not related to the shows around them, meaning taken on there own, their enjoyable enough, and of course have some of the nice weirdness that was a highlight throughout most of the tour. The drumz/space/midi sequences where awesome if your into that? But if I was constructing a box for this tour I’d could see not needing to include them....
    Next night it’s Bob and Jer on Letterman, and then back to the swamps of Jersey for 10/14, with a nice first set closing Help-Slip-Franks and I believe a solid second set? Have this one on tape, but not too familiar with....
    Probably try and give the 14&15 a few spins over the next couple days with a big Friday rave up of the mighty Nightfall of Diamonds 10/16/89 blockbuster! I still think overall this is one of the best single live releases ever, yet it seems to really fall under the radar? I think maybe the sound is the best of the 4 releases so far, but I’m getting ahead of myself.
    Ok, caught up....Onward!

    Oh, other catch ups:

    BIG THANKS to Bluecrow! Outta nowhere he remembered something I said I was missing months ago and when he found an extra, generously sent it my way! Amazing, thoughtful and a dose of just what the world needs, kindness!

    CASEYJ: another big shout out to you too, I don’t care what anybody says your awright!
    Oh, and with the holidaze shopping season coming up, he does fine dye work, especially if your looking for custom Chefs themed apparel....

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    No need to twist my arm to spin the great 4/24/78. Meanwhile, I will follow Oroborous footsteps into Oct 89. Now that I've turned on to the Warlocks shows, I feel the doors have been opened for all of Oct 89. I had forgotten that we have 10/16/89 in multitrack glory ("Nightfall of Diamonds"). That's another one I've neglected. I've barely even listened to that one. And then the great grand finale of 10/26 - this should be fun. Gooey psychedelic goodness, indeed. Looking forward to any other tour reports, Oro.

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Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.
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Submitted by Slow Dog Noodle on Tue, 01/12/2021 - 10:23

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History doesn't repeat itself, but it often rhymes.

- Mark Twain

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Submitted by billy the kid on Tue, 01/12/2021 - 11:15

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Good show, I don't think it comes up to level of the Feb/March Fillmore West shows, but enjoyable for sure. Funny, as I listen to this I enjoyed Garcia's guitar playing , just the guitar playing, from yesterday's show 10/24/79, just as much as I enjoy his guitar playing from this show, 4/21/69. Anyway, great pick.

How can you have any pudding if you don't eat yer meat?!?!

Well, I suppose I went just for the "pudding" yesterday, as I only listened to Set 2, but I did enjoy what I heard. I agree with those who point out that this is not the strongest show of the tour, but I just love this period, and I enjoyed the whole 2nd set. Flaming hot Fire, and even with the vocal flubs in Terrapin, the rest of the set flows nicely. Strong Wharf Rat too! I'm a fan of good sounding AUDs too, and this one certainly does sound pretty sweet.

4/21/69 - the first night of the Ark. I think I might cherry-pick this one with a few songs from set 1 (TOO Suite) and most of set 2 (I'll probably skip a good portion of Lovelight... currently ducking to avoid the tomatoes! :) I do LOVE Sitting On Top of the World!

Almost to hump day!

Peace

No tomatoes from me.

I appreciate Lovelight more as time passes, but it can get repetitive and....

Now the ones i have heard from march 68 and earlier bounce more instead of drag, which is a good thing

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Submitted by carlo13 on Tue, 01/12/2021 - 17:31

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I tend to love any dead that lasts long. Like pitb - lovelight - eyes - smokestack - alligator - and all that great stuff that you can listen to while partying or sex or both together. I know.... way too much info.

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Submitted by DeadVikes on Tue, 01/12/2021 - 21:51

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Wait a second Carlo, sex and the Dead. Okay, that cracked me up.

Wait a second honey, listen to this transition into I Know you Rider!

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Submitted by carlo13 on Tue, 01/12/2021 - 21:57

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"Giddy-up." Like kramer would say.

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Submitted by Oroborous on Wed, 01/13/2021 - 08:01

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Carlo, LOL, reminds me of when George was trying to have it all: sex, pastrami, AND the Yankees all at the same time!

69 no doubt is fine. Sitting on Top always welcome. But another in the “have to be in the mood” LL camp, but that doesn’t mean ya gotta throw grease! ; ) Did Viola seem a little underwhelming, or was that just me?

Did Ready or Not afterwards. Really digging this 90s stuff, well, not so much the Vince tunes....

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Submitted by JoshByTheBay on Wed, 01/13/2021 - 08:31

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Since we just did the first night at the Ark, I was thinking we can mix the ying and the yang with some 1/10/79 from Nassau Coliseum. Honestly, one of my favorite second sets ever, and that speaks volumes. Pre Drums is a powerhouse.

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Submitted by DeadVikes on Wed, 01/13/2021 - 11:32

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Okay Josh, looks like a Dr. Bob Wagner audience recording for this show. I will check it out this afternoon. Thanks for the pick.

Everybody hang loose.

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Submitted by The Good Ole G… on Thu, 01/14/2021 - 07:24

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Nice pick JOSHBYTHEBAY

That Set 2 is always fun to listen too and it really hit the spot yesterday!
Enjoyed that.

I was struck by a few things as I usually am when I listen to this show.
First off the amazing recording by Dr. Bob!
Recording technique & equipment had some major advancement between say '73-'79.
Jerry sings "Sweet Susie” in Loser, that makes it for me.
Love how that Head on tape figures out it's gonna be Dark Star and you can hear the stoke!
Space was still an odd occurrence.

The reviewer in Taper's Compendium was at these shows and he was saying that rumors before the show were that they'd played Dark Star & St. Stephen recently. But he didn't really believe them because rumors were so wild back then.

Reading that I was struck thinking about it. Having grown up essentially always listening and loving 12/31/78 and considering it an upper echelon GD show and legendary. It's crazy to think of a time when Ten days after that show no one knew the set list, what happened or the songs played!

Simpler times... Fun to think about.
Golden age for information now (and misinformation too).

You're still here?!?

Well alright then, the other thing I was struck by...
The reviewer states the hotter show played was the next night 1/11/79

I gotta test that theory today as nothing on this setlist sticks out to me and I really don't recall listening to it often.

See what this show does for my memory.
Good Sugaree to start.

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Submitted by DeadVikes on Thu, 01/14/2021 - 21:33

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Looking at 9/6/1980 for tommorow's pick. Some of you were at this show, I have never heard it, but the story behind the show seems interesting. Last show before the Warfield.

Yes, do I think 1980 is still lost in space, (per Oroborous), absolutely!

Is it time for more? Let's hope. Giving this one a go.

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Submitted by Thats_Otis on Fri, 01/15/2021 - 05:30

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Looks like DeadVikes has picked 9/6/80, which is a show I have never heard before either. Sounds like a pretty awesome day up in Maine! LOOOONNNG show, interesting setlist, let's do it!

I did a little fishing around the ol' Archive - there are a lot of copies of this one - and I picked two sources that sound pretty good. The first is a SBD/AUD Matrix, mastered by good man Charlie Miller:

https://archive.org/details/gd80-09-06.sbd_aud.miller.25560.sbeok.shnf/…

The second is a straight AUD (looks to be a Jim Wise recording). In the quick sound comparison I did (a few minutes of China Cat, Shakedown, and Mexicali,) I think it sounds a little brighter overall, more bass, better balance, etc., though there is a bit of tape warble (at least I heard it on Mexicali...):

https://archive.org/details/gd80-09-06.wise.unknown.322.sbeok.shnf/gd80…

On both copies the vocals, particularly Jerry's, sound pretty distant. If anyone knows of or finds a better source, please let me know!

Happy listening, HAPPY FRIDAY, and stay safe out there!

Peace

I'm in.. thanks dvikes.

I haven't listened to this show in forever and a day. I'm through the first set and still fumbling for the best version.

Anyway.. even though we just listened to a 79 this feels like a nice change of pace and hits the spot. I don't listen to a ton of 1980. I listened to the deadset centric shows to death decades ago and as much as I love the acoustic material, when I am in the mood, it's awesome but I must admit I like the electric edge.

Lately.. it's the Nov Dec run from 1980 that I find myself hitting the most.

Be kind folks.. it's Happy Friday where I sit. Been working a bit more than usual lately, planning on how to optimize my day. I should finish this show before my day is done, I might switch things up for Friday part 2.

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Submitted by DeadVikes on Fri, 01/15/2021 - 07:33

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Otis and Jim,

I listen through Relisten via my Sonos. The version I am listening to is a SBD/Aud, which was the first choice on the list. The vocals sound really clear as well as the rest of the band.
This definitely is not a new polished copy, imagine if it was?
Future release?

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Submitted by billy the kid on Fri, 01/15/2021 - 07:44

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Great pick Dead Vikes. Well this certainly is a long show, and it starts out with great versions of Alabama/Greatest Story, the Dead are full of energy. Then they do a killer version of Sugaree. After a great 3 song start they play 7 songs that are very pedestrian and not much to write home about, Garcia's guitar playing sounds good on these songs but other than that, time to head to the beer garden and have a few beers. They get their energy back that they showed in the 1st 3 songs and end the 1st set with really great versions of China/Rider and Promised Land. Notes, not to fond of Brent's synthesizer playing on Alabama, Weirs slide playing on Little Red Rooster, not very enjoyable. Garcia's slide playing on Little Red Rooster is what always made the Dead's version cool, Weirs singing is ok, but pales in comparison to HowlinWolf.

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Submitted by DeadVikes on Fri, 01/15/2021 - 09:02

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Okay, so the recording goes to the audience portion at China Cat and there is a drop off for sure. Hope it goes back.

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Submitted by Slow Dog Noodle on Fri, 01/15/2021 - 09:30

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Fantastic choice. I love this show. I think it may be the best show from '80 that i've heard, but maybe because this aud is so good. Thanks Jim Wise!

Can't wait to listen to this show again. Lemieux, if you're follow this adventure we've been having over the last year so so, please put this show at the top of your list for release. 🤞

Edit: That Fox show from Atlanta (11-30-80) that was Dave's #8 was a very fine '80 show too.

Looking good Winthorpe!
Don’t think I’ve ever heard this one? Love me some 80 Dead. Saw excellent show on 9/2, and we have the under the radar DL shows in between....
1/10/79: this one I’ve heard for the obvious reasons plus it’s a cousin to my first show 10 days later. Really dug this one. Is that TMNS set closer a rager er what? Did 1/11/79 too, but that one didn’t resonate as much, though I was busy...
Gonna try and get to some more 90s released stuff this weekend.
Happy Friday!

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Submitted by billy the kid on Fri, 01/15/2021 - 12:26

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Killer 2nd set, I give it a 10 out of 10, excellent from.start to finish. Great choice Dead Vikes.

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Submitted by JimInMD on Sat, 01/16/2021 - 08:44

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I ended up listening to the soundboard for Set I and the Jim Wise for Set II. I wonder what happened to the rest of the board? In any case.. a nice palate cleanser and a hot show from a great year.

What's on tap today? Did we do 2/22/74 yet? I'm contemplating that one.. if we did that how about 2/23.

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Submitted by bluecrow on Sat, 01/16/2021 - 09:18

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was listening to this early Dec. - 1st set ends with Death Don't Have No Mercy
1st set only (Charlie Miller / Sir Mick hands on) - https://relisten.net/grateful-dead/1970/01/16?source=103821 (tracking is off)
full show - https://relisten.net/grateful-dead/1970/01/16?source=88884

and for tomorrow maybe head next door to Oregon State 1/17/70 - https://relisten.net/grateful-dead/1970/01/17

be well everybody - it may seem a ways off but spring is coming

I both have not listened to this before and do not have it in my electronic world.. I had this show confused with the Download Series #2 show, which was apparently just one set two days later, with a show in the middle (Oregon State University in Corvallis).

I am going with the Charlie Miller first set and the droncit?? version I cobbled together with the second set. The sound is nice.. if I have time I am going to do this one and the next two nights (Corvallis and the Digital Download Series 2 from the same venue).

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Submitted by Oroborous on Sat, 01/16/2021 - 10:48

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Great show! Thanks to vguy for the write ups, if I’d a been a little older that’s the kind of place I’d of gone the extra to get there. Always loved the outta the way venues. Bet the vibe was pretty chill. Oxford was fun, but I’m guessing way bigger/crazier then Lewiston.

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Sat, 01/16/2021 - 13:22

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...."plays a golden string fiddle to a double E waterfall over my back. Move it!!" Fuck yeah Jerry! Him getting all excited and shit makes me get all excited and shit.

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Submitted by billy the kid on Sat, 01/16/2021 - 14:57

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Brutal, Cumberland cuts out.

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Submitted by billy the kid on Sat, 01/16/2021 - 14:58

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Brutal, Cumberland cuts out.

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Submitted by billy the kid on Sat, 01/16/2021 - 14:58

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Great pick, it would definitely be on my bbq and beer drinking list.

Move it!! (ha - hadn't caught that)

Both 1/16 and 1/17 kick heavy. Listened through the two again today. Sweet mix of Live Dead era and Working Man's. Sound quality overall is very good to excellent - a few drop outs but still totally satisfying. First time around that Death Don't came as a total and emotional surprise as I hadn't really scoped the set list. Not expecting 'cause its '70 - my aging deadbase shows its a second to last before the long hiatus. Among fine detail that caught my ear in the larger 1/16 excellence was some of that early Mickey percussion. Just now the 1/17 Dark Star > Stephen > Eleven was all systems go go go.
The Download Series is the one major gap in my "officially released" collection. Wasn't in the position to take advantage of at the time. Didn't even know about 1/18 being part of that. Need to revisit that series.
I think the Hawaii shows from following week were up here not too long ago but its been awhile since personally dived in so will head there soon. Looking forward to Fox Theatre - 2/6/70 (DaP 6) - one of my favorites. The whole 50th for Working Mans and American Beauty really got me going on this era.
Edit - didn't mention the cut to 1/16 Cumberland cause I didn't want that "small" negative to define it . . . . : )

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Submitted by JimInMD on Sat, 01/16/2021 - 18:51

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Adding 1/17 only makes it better. These seem to be releasable shows, they might have to address the cuts somehow. Someone's singing is overly loud and off key in Cumberland too.., I think Bobby's. Perhaps his voice broke the tape like the shriek voice broke glass in that old Memorex commercial.

Good choice I had not heard these before. Nice Dark Star too.

Jim, you mentioned 2/22/74, yesterday. Let me know when you want to hit this one up? It is a three set monster.

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Submitted by JimInMD on Sun, 01/17/2021 - 10:38

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I'm ready.. any time.

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Submitted by DeadVikes on Sun, 01/17/2021 - 11:10

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Good call on this one Jim, I have it going.

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Sun, 01/17/2021 - 12:28

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....twist my arm.
Lmao. Jerry blowing the US Blues lyrics right out of the gate. Gotta love it. It's part of the charm.
"We're all confused. What's to lose."
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Submitted by JimInMD on Sun, 01/17/2021 - 22:01

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I forgot how good the PITB was from this show. I was in a great situation to listen today.. and about a third of the way into this song I felt it was ho, hum.. Another three minutes and I realized how wrong I was and good this Playing is..

Is this the first flirtations with Slipknot!? I forget if they played with the theme in '73 or not.

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Mon, 01/18/2021 - 07:45

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....Cal Expo 8.5.89.
https://relisten.net/grateful-dead/1989/08/05
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One More Saturday Night
Cold Rain & Snow
We Can Run
Stagger Lee
Memphis blues
Row jimmy
Let It Grow
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Hey Pocky Way ->
Playin' In The Band ->
I Know Your Rider ->
Terrapin Station ->
Drums ->
Space ->
Standing On The Moon ->
Throwing Stones ->
Not Fade Away
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US Blues
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Features a OMSN and CR&S one two punch opener and a stand alone Rider.
I was lucky enough to be present and accounted for at this run.