HERE COMES SUNSHINE 1973 (17CD SET)

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WHAT'S INSIDE:
Five complete, previously unreleased performances on 17CDs
Des Moines, IA 5/13/73
Santa Barbara, CA 5/20/73
San Francisco, CA 5/26/73
Washington, D.C. 6/9/73
Washington, D.C. 6/10/73
Recorded by Kidd Candelario, Betty Cantor-Jackson, and Owsley Stanley
Newly restored and speed-corrected audio by Plangent Processes
Mastered by Jeffrey Norman
Liners featuring notes from Canadian author, Ray Robertson, The Owsley Stanley Foundation, and Legacy Manager and Audio Archivist, David Lemieux
Art and Design by GRAMMY® Award-winning Art Director, Masaki Koike
Custom-dyed Tenugui and an exclusive poster featuring an illustration by Mary Ann Mayer

Limited Edition Individually Numbered To 10,000
Exclusively At Dead.net

"There’s the simple fact that the band members were old enough and experienced enough by now to be virtuosos on their instruments (what other group—rock or jazz or any other kind of music—could boast a trio of spectacularly singular talents such as Garcia, Lesh, and Weir?) but were still young enough to want to play and play and play some more, the happy, itchy inclination of youth. As a few of the shows in the Here Comes Sunshine boxed set attest, it wasn’t unusual for a 1973 concert to exceed four hours. And within the shows themselves, there are nearly nightly examples of hour-long orgies of tune-linked songcraft and juicy jamming." - Ray Robertson, HERE COMES SUNSHINE 1973 Liners

8 years in and the Grateful Dead are a little bit of everything to everyone. They are putting up textures and tones of rock, of jazz, of country, with set-morphing vibes and long stretches of improvisations that are completely keyed into the sum of their parts. Keith Godchaux is here with his cascading notes. Donna Jean too. Both finding their footing and keeping things steady in the wake of Pigpen's unfillable gap. The spring of 1973 feels transformative for the Dead - no more so than the May and early June shows, complementary yet remarkably different, soon-to-be cornerstones of everyone's tape collections, and now, 50 years later, set to be part of the band's official canon.

HERE COMES SUNSHINE 1973 is a limited-edition, 17CD boxed set with five previously unreleased, highly sought-after Dead shows, including: Iowa State Fairgrounds, Des Moines, IA (5/13/73), Campus Stadium, UCSB, Santa Barbara, CA (5/20/73), Kezar Stadium, San Francisco, CA (5/26/73), and Robert F. Kennedy Memorial Stadium, Washington, D.C. (6/9/73) and (6/10/73).

During the spring, the band road-tested most of the songs they would record that summer for WAKE OF THE FLOOD – their first studio album in three years – including early live versions of “Mississippi Half-Step Toodeloo,” “Row Jimmy,” “Stella Blue,” “Eyes Of The World,” and, the set’s namesake, “Here Comes Sunshine.” Also tucked into the collection are songs destined for the Dead’s 1974 studio album, FROM THE MARS HOTEL – “China Doll,” “Loose Lucy,” and “Wave That Flag,” a precursor to “U.S. Blues.”

The new repertoire slipped neatly into the fluid setlists alongside songs honed on the 1972 European tour (“Jack Straw,” “Tennessee Jed,” “Brown-Eyed Women”), Chuck Berry perennials (“Promised Land,” “Around And Around”), classic country (“Big River,” “The Race Is On”), and incredible jam sequences: “He’s Gone”> “Truckin’”> “The Other One”> “Eyes Of The World.”

Due June 30th, the individually-numbered, limited-edition 17CD set features vibrant graphics and custom-designed folios by GRAMMY® Award-winning Art Director Masaki Koike, a custom-dyed Tenugui and an exclusive poster featuring an illustration by Mary Ann Mayer, and liner notes by Canadian author Ray Robertson, The Owsley Stanley Foundation, and David Lemieux. And, of course, it features newly restored and speed-corrected audio by Plangent Processes, mastered by Jeffrey Norman.

Digital convert? We've got you covered too. On the very same day you can collect your hi-definition download.

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July 31, 2023 - 1:52pm

#61

DeadVikes

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HCS Box

Four shows in and one to go.

This is one the best sounding two track box sets they have ever put out. Man, just unbelievable sound quality. And then there are the performances.
Every night is different. The Loose Lucy on 6/9 really sticks out as a perfect example as Jerry really gets into it and adds some impressive guitar work that I have never heard on this song. Any given night. Such a mellow vibe to a good chunk of the 6/9 show.

Hope you all get your issues worked out on this box so you can enjoy to the fullest.

10,000, was probably not enough given the demand, but given the last couple of years of not being able to sell out 13,000 to 12,500, you can't blame them for reducing the numbers.
July 31, 2023 - 10:27am

#62

daverock

Joined:
September 1, 2014

Wattstax box

Charile3 - yes, I agree with what you say. The inclusion of the stage announcements transforms the box into a valuable cultural document, as well as a musical one. The tracks aren't just floating in space. We as listeners might be, of course. I won't necessarily listen to all the talk when I play the cds, but their inclusion does add to the whole.
July 31, 2023 - 10:24am

#63

Charlie3

Joined:
September 21, 2015

HCS Box

I've had a chance to go through this box and listen each show once so far. All discs have played fine, there was a small speck of dried glue or something on one disc but it came right off easily and did not affect playback. The packaging arrangement is not my favorite, but it worked ok and I did not have the problems that others have reported with the cd holders. The tip someone put on here about removing discs by placing your finger in the center hole of the disc to slide them out instead of holding the edges of the disc also helps to make it easier to remove the discs. It is a shame that there are folks having trouble with discs in this box, the music is great.

I may be biased as 1973 is a favorite year for me, but the music in this box is well worth acquiring in one format or another, and I am glad to have it. I am looking forward to working my way through the box for a second, more focused listen. I also think it would be nice if they released all music editions of the boxes that sell out, certainly won't affect my enjoyment of the music.
July 31, 2023 - 10:02am

#64

Charlie3

Joined:
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Praising, Preaching, and Pleading at Wattstax

Yeah, there was a lot of talking between songs included in the Wattstax box set, a lot of praising the black community and the individuals organizing the concert, a lot of preaching about the inherent worth of every individual (I Am Somebody) and aspirations of self and community improvement in the face of adversity and discrimination, and a whole lot of pleading for people to get off the playing field, including a pretty detailed description of the financial implications of the crowd not getting off the field. While there were times that I found myself thinking, enough already, will everyone just get off the field so we can get back to the music, I have to admit that the inclusion of all of that material really captured the vibe of the event. And the music is fantastic, I don't think there was a weak performance in the whole concert, or the associated recordings.
July 31, 2023 - 9:49am

#65

Great Fool Dad

Joined:
July 31, 2023

Here Comes (No) Sunshine, Box, 17 CD

Given the problems with the CDs, I'm now glad I was late in buying them like so many others. Especially since I live in Germany and exchanging CDs is probably more complicated than if I lived in the US. Nevertheless, I will get the single box with the Washington concert via Amazon, even though I had to read there in the meantime that some customers also had to return this box because of two defective CDs. Or Amazon exchanged the box maximum twice, then that's it.
Even if there should be the live concerts remastered on the net and even in a better quality (which surprises me honestly), so I'm still of the opinion that the artists should get the money earned. Simply because there are hardly any music groups that release such nice boxes as GD. What I unfortunately don't understand: If already the boxes like the current one are sold out after one (!!!) day, why aren't simply higher editions produced? Second editions for all I care. Gentle Giant has also managed to do that. Because I go meanwhile on the Keks that felt many people buy the GD boxes only as an investment or they want to hawk afterwards most-bidding. I want to LISTEN to the CDs!
July 31, 2023 - 7:14am

#66

daverock

Joined:
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Keep off the grass

Dennis - I got the 6 cd version of that Wattstax box, which seems to have the same basic design as the 12 cd one. Nice looking box.There's some great music in there, in between the mc's telling the crowd off, giving them educational lectures and giving each other awards - check out The Rance Allen Group.
July 31, 2023 - 5:17am

#67

Dennis

Joined:
November 1, 2012

Shitty disc storage system

Figure I throw this one out.

My box came with only one or two disc flopping around, but all were incredibly tight, but no glue. I too found the best way to extract from box without ripping box was the center hole technique.

I just got in the 12 cd set Wattstax '72 Soul'd Out (The Complete Wattstax Collection). The packaging was the same basic design, slit's in cardboard with disc stuck in. Except none were flopping around and all came out without a bit of argument. Not even a chance of ripping the box. Box says this was done by "Concord" (a Craft recording).

So just for the sake of argument, it is possible to make this type of package without flopping disc, glue or possible tearing.

FYI - haven't dugged heavily into this yet (still ripping), but it funny it has 20 minutes tracks of MC begging the people to clear the field. The MC did have his moments. "I need everyone off the field, the show can not continue until you do. Yes, I'm talking to you sister in the blue dress, get off the field. Walking from one side of the field to the other is not clearing the field",,,, it was funny, but 20 minutes! (1,2,3 take a step back :-) )
July 28, 2023 - 12:03pm

#68

proudfoot

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Itsburnsy

If you see this check personal messages
July 28, 2023 - 9:07am

#69

bigbrownie

Joined:
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Addendum

Also, Dick's Picks #15 Englishtown 9/3/77 disc 3 replaced automatically.
July 28, 2023 - 9:01am

#70

bigbrownie

Joined:
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Two Things

1: I'm finally through Santa Barbara 5/20/73. This show, to me, is a little more up front and in your face than Des Moines, and you can feel the energy. Another great Box of Rain, but TLEO is the big surprise. Jerry is really struttin'
his stuff. Got a scuff or something on disc one resulting in brief moments of static on Tennessee and The Race is On.
Not gonna whine about that, which brings me to:
2: For those of you who collected all the Dick's Picks, does anyone remember when #9, 9/16/90 MSG, was released, and subsequently we received a replacement for disc 1 WITHOUT EVEN ASKING? Not that my disc 1 had a problem. but THOSE were the days of quality control and customer service...just sayin'.

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WHAT'S INSIDE:
Five complete, previously unreleased performances on 17CDs
Des Moines, IA 5/13/73
Santa Barbara, CA 5/20/73
San Francisco, CA 5/26/73
Washington, D.C. 6/9/73
Washington, D.C. 6/10/73
Recorded by Kidd Candelario, Betty Cantor-Jackson, and Owsley Stanley
Newly restored and speed-corrected audio by Plangent Processes
Mastered by Jeffrey Norman
Liners featuring notes from Canadian author, Ray Robertson, The Owsley Stanley Foundation, and Legacy Manager and Audio Archivist, David Lemieux
Art and Design by GRAMMY® Award-winning Art Director, Masaki Koike
Custom-dyed Tenugui and an exclusive poster featuring an illustration by Mary Ann Mayer

Limited Edition Individually Numbered To 10,000
Exclusively At Dead.net

"There’s the simple fact that the band members were old enough and experienced enough by now to be virtuosos on their instruments (what other group—rock or jazz or any other kind of music—could boast a trio of spectacularly singular talents such as Garcia, Lesh, and Weir?) but were still young enough to want to play and play and play some more, the happy, itchy inclination of youth. As a few of the shows in the Here Comes Sunshine boxed set attest, it wasn’t unusual for a 1973 concert to exceed four hours. And within the shows themselves, there are nearly nightly examples of hour-long orgies of tune-linked songcraft and juicy jamming." - Ray Robertson, HERE COMES SUNSHINE 1973 Liners

8 years in and the Grateful Dead are a little bit of everything to everyone. They are putting up textures and tones of rock, of jazz, of country, with set-morphing vibes and long stretches of improvisations that are completely keyed into the sum of their parts. Keith Godchaux is here with his cascading notes. Donna Jean too. Both finding their footing and keeping things steady in the wake of Pigpen's unfillable gap. The spring of 1973 feels transformative for the Dead - no more so than the May and early June shows, complementary yet remarkably different, soon-to-be cornerstones of everyone's tape collections, and now, 50 years later, set to be part of the band's official canon.

HERE COMES SUNSHINE 1973 is a limited-edition, 17CD boxed set with five previously unreleased, highly sought-after Dead shows, including: Iowa State Fairgrounds, Des Moines, IA (5/13/73), Campus Stadium, UCSB, Santa Barbara, CA (5/20/73), Kezar Stadium, San Francisco, CA (5/26/73), and Robert F. Kennedy Memorial Stadium, Washington, D.C. (6/9/73) and (6/10/73).

During the spring, the band road-tested most of the songs they would record that summer for WAKE OF THE FLOOD – their first studio album in three years – including early live versions of “Mississippi Half-Step Toodeloo,” “Row Jimmy,” “Stella Blue,” “Eyes Of The World,” and, the set’s namesake, “Here Comes Sunshine.” Also tucked into the collection are songs destined for the Dead’s 1974 studio album, FROM THE MARS HOTEL – “China Doll,” “Loose Lucy,” and “Wave That Flag,” a precursor to “U.S. Blues.”

The new repertoire slipped neatly into the fluid setlists alongside songs honed on the 1972 European tour (“Jack Straw,” “Tennessee Jed,” “Brown-Eyed Women”), Chuck Berry perennials (“Promised Land,” “Around And Around”), classic country (“Big River,” “The Race Is On”), and incredible jam sequences: “He’s Gone”> “Truckin’”> “The Other One”> “Eyes Of The World.”

Due June 30th, the individually-numbered, limited-edition 17CD set features vibrant graphics and custom-designed folios by GRAMMY® Award-winning Art Director Masaki Koike, a custom-dyed Tenugui and an exclusive poster featuring an illustration by Mary Ann Mayer, and liner notes by Canadian author Ray Robertson, The Owsley Stanley Foundation, and David Lemieux. And, of course, it features newly restored and speed-corrected audio by Plangent Processes, mastered by Jeffrey Norman.

Digital convert? We've got you covered too. On the very same day you can collect your hi-definition download.

Crow told me.....

The booklet is in with the Des Moines cds, you just gotta poke around.

Hey Download Issues

I can't even download my files. I have a box set that I think has been with UPS since last Friday but has been "Delayed due to operating conditions". I think it finally left California yesterday for delivery to Baltimore hopefully some time next week. The delivery date is still "pending". They do great work on these box sets. I don't understand why we have to work so hard to get it.

Still Waiting On Downloads

For my own sanity - has anyone who pre-ordered the digital files been able to download? The last communication I had back to me was on Saturday afternoon, with an email saying that they were sorry I was experiencing technical issues with the digital download, they are investigating the issue and will follow up as soon as possible. Since then, nothing.

Not quite here yet

My copy is currently held in customs in the UK. Hopefully, I’ll hear tomorrow whether they need me to pay any duty on it so that it can be delivered soon.

RE: Still Waiting on Downloads

Nope, you're not alone -- still waiting. Nothing from support beyond the form email everyone got over the weekend. Are we trending towards "credit card company dispute" territory at this point? I feel like they could at least send another email out to ppl who preordered FLACs with a status update. :(

Junk1234:

A Box In The Hand - #2705

Picked it up from the Post Office this morning. None of the discs were loose but maybe only 3 were fully seated, and the funny thing was the fully seated ones were way snug and sorta hard to get out. To echo the sentiment of many it seems a seriously flawed design. My CDs aren't going back in those slots. As for condition - most had some sort of dust which was relatively easy to deal with. Disc 4 of Des Moines has a speck of glue towards the edge. Disc 1 of June 9 has a speck of "something" stuck to it right in the middle. Disc 1 of Kezar has glue on the edge but not playing surface. On Steve Hoffman thread 91% isopropanol is the recommended way to remove glue. Disc 3 of Kezar and Disc 3 of 1st RFK have light scratch/scuff marks and my thought was that it had to happen before being inserted in the slots because scuff marks were at an angle to insertion. Maybe one other disc where I spotted an issue but can't remember which right now. I'll reach out for replacements as necessary.

DJMac - Don't think I've seen anybody comment with the problems your having either here or the dedicated thread for this box on the Steve Hoffman Music Forum. I'd reach out to Dead net and Rhino of course but in the interim I think you might have better luck tapping into trouble shooting advice, if that's something you're looking for, on the Steve Hoffman thread. Good luck.

And as for the Dead and Co discussion here - guilty as charged and I probably started the whole thing by mentioning that I was headed last minute to the shows in Boulder. Big Tent as to what gets discussed on any particular thread.

Thank you for the info and…

Thank you for the info and have a note into Rhino already, but will check out the SH forum as well.

Re DeadCo, no worries, it truly is a catch all here. Frankly I am just fatigued 7 years into this outfit of the constant Love Em/Loathe Em stuff and the associated proselytizing efforts each side undergoes. By now, if you don't dig em, you won't be convinced by anyone that you should. And if you do dig em, the naysayers are equally exasperating. I fall squarely into one of those camps in a big way, but respect all sides of the coin. Its a true OMGWAMS situation.

OMGWAMS

That's for sure. I had an awesome time in Boulder.

The Sphere live

wow, check it out if you can find a video, reminds me of several excursions taken back in the day. D & C love them or hate them Mickey and Bob still going at it, gotta love that if nothing else. Saw a video of the drone light show in Boulder, again, wow, check out that Dragon, with matches.
I would love to see a 91 release in this series. Spacebro wants 4-1-91, but those 3 shows in Orlando right after that are quite impressive also, especially that 4-8 show.

1991 Shows

In addition to all those mentioned, would offer up 4-27, 6-6, 6-24 and 6-25 as well.

All good things in all good time

Well, #08749 is here. I'm WFH today and it's super quiet, so I am just beginning my unboxing. My first thought was, "hey, no booklet?" so I dropped what I was doing to come over here and read this thread. Once I realized I'd missed it, I went back. Mine was hiding inside of the first sleeve or whatever these big things are called.

Initial thoughts: these shows are legendary and I can't believe I'm holding official releases almost 50 years to the dates. We're some lucky fans. Thank you, Dave Lemeiux and Jeff Norman, and the producers at Rhino; thank you Kidd, Betty, and Owsley.

That said, now I guess I'd better start carefully looking at my CDs for scratches or glue, ugh. Hope I'll get lucky, because I don't relish trying to find a human at Warner to take care of me otherwise. Because believe it or not, I *still* do not have my Dave's Picks 46... I think they are finally taking care of me, but it feels like WEA took a page out of Twitter's book and decided that they could hollow out the customer service/support dept without anyone noticing...

BOX 00088 arrived safe in SW…

BOX 00088 arrived safe in SW Houston today. So far all seems well, best of luck to everyone else.

Thursday by 7pm

Apparent delivery time.

Patience, bro.

DnC...if they played in the city instead of the Gorge I might go. But also ticket prices...I will use the money for more GD.

When it arrives

It's quite scary, seeing if any extra duty will need paying. Then it will be even more scary when it arrives, and I open it up to see what condition all the discs are in, and find out if they play or not.

06407 arrived this morning

at my tiny rural PO in Vermont, just picked it up. Tortured myself by reading comments on Steve Hoffman, so opened it VERY carefully. Nicely but oh so impractically packaged as many have noted. Six discs were loose, all of those lightly scuffed, one with a significant scratch that likely did not happen because of cardboard sleeves. Three discs were very difficult to remove due to glue residue on their stuck edges, two others less badly stuck. Really, the most nightmare beautiful packaging yet, discs will be placed into something far more safe, leaving the wonder, why. Would vastly prefer simple, space efficient format like the Winterland boxes, even 76/78 boxes, don't need extras beyond booklet with details and a few photos. Maybe WMG can produce two versions, basic and deluxe collector. Now on to the important stuff, the music.

6/10/73...

Is an absolutely monumental show until He's Gone. If they had closed it there, still would be an all timer. The third set did nothing for me. And it reminded me that I have listened to this show on the Archive at least a couple times over the years. I probably skipped the first set back then. This time, loved first and second sets (up to Wharf Rat, and with the exception of a couple others), and was bored with set 3. I expected guitar fireworks, instead, Jerry and Dickey both play rather tentatively, and very quietly. There are some nice moments, to be sure, but I was fairly let down by the last set and parts of the second set. I can't remember if it was here of the Steve Hoffman board, but somebody mentined Wharf Rat being off in the vocal delivery and being abandoned to Truckin' quickly. I think Stella Blue is much worse. It's very much like the DaP 24 8/25/72 version where Jerry sings it terribly, trying to find the right delivery. (Or on too much of something, which is my hypothesis for 8/25/72 as well as for 6/10/73). The Bird Song, Playing, Eyes, Here Comes Sunshine, Dark Star, and He's Gone are all sublime. I really really liked this show, but I don't ever recall feeling like I was waiting for a show to be done, and every song after He's Gone I was just amazed that they kept going. I was exhausted listening to it.

Still awaiting my box, so no other new, old Dead tunes to blast. Cannot wait to dive into 5/13.

Also, pre-emptive thanks to whomever advocated signing up to UPS to get them to auto-upgrade all SurePost to UPS delivery. Hoping that works, also having them deliver to nearby UPS Store as there have been reports of packages going missing in my building, and not risking shenanigans,

Lastly, I will join SpaceBrother in advocating 4/1/91, but with 3/31. Both will fit together on 4cds.

Same here DJMAC4289

I posted a comment early on the 4th about having the same issues. I’m working my way through the shows and keep finding tracks with dead air. I’m up to 18, the latest being Beat it on down the line from 6/10/73 crapping out around 0:47 in. As you mentioned, every track of third disc content of 5/20/73 except Truckin’ was corrupted. I have email into Rhino but still nothing other than generic auto reply.

Jerry vocals 6/10/73

I think he warbled a bit because he was probably

REALLY, REALLY HIGH.

00147 arrived last weekend

I haven’t had time to fully dive in since I’m still decompressing from the Taylor Swift concert.

So far I have only listened to the 6/10 Bird Song. That alone is worth the money. I almost feel like if I listen to any more of this box set it would be akin to stealing.

Whatever happened to that tune anyway? The earlier versions of 72 and especially 73 are transcendental. To me it really never regained its glory in the later years.

Defective discs

So unbelievably disappointed. It arrived with over half of the discs scuffed and scratched. Many skip and two have glue imbedded in the discs. It's absolutely unacceptable and I contacted WRner directly. I've had way too many issues with DEAD.NET

Unacceptable

My favorite bands website is apparently being run by the keystone cops. I'm sure that you have dropped hundreds here at least..if not more. I've had multiple issues with this website, ordering, damaged packages, late packages, etc. It's inexcusable and incredibly frustrating. Hopefully you get some answers. I'd go to WARNER DIRECTLY.

Pre - order downloads,…

Last message on Sunday, apologising for 'technical issues' - nothing since then. Has anybody heard anything different?

Like I said....

....when the glass came shattered, I stumbled across something called damage control on this site. Don't ask me how.
I was high. I stumbled. And it worked.
Seriously though, I hope you all get your '73 GOGD. I'm familiar with the frustration.
And I've spent a pretty penny here fo sho.
Edit....GarciaLive 20 arrived. The Simple Twist Of Fate is stunning. Good shit.

FLAC

As for FLAC-control&FLAC-updates from Dead.net (crickets... crickets...). It can't end good for pre-order customers: no money, no product.

I'm quite astounded they've ignored it all. As if "the plane has not crashed."

problems with Here Comes Sunshine download

I've been having those problems too. I just ordered and downloaded the shows yesterday, so I've only played the Kezar show so far (my second Dead show IRL). There are several dead spots in the audio, most lasting several minutes.

I've been sending tech support a list of exactly where the dead spots are. So far, no response...

Update

Parcelforce tracking shows my boxset is being held in Liverpool until the customs charge is paid. Unfortunately they don’t tell me how much this is so I can’t pay until I get a letter from them! With our postal service I now expect to see the box sometime next week.

EDIT: After a little poking around I saw that I didn’t need to wait for the letter, by telephoning Parcelforce I was able to get the required 17 digit code and then pay on-line. £45.57 which I think is the same Dave Rock has been asked for. Delivery is scheduled for tomorrow. Then I can spend the weekend checking it is OK.

Bad news on the doorstep

I got a letter from Parcel Force today, telling me they are holding a parcel for me from overseas. Before it will be delivered, I need to pay them £45-57. This breaks down as £33.57 Import VAT and £12-00 Clearance Fee.
I hope Deadnet don't release anything else I want this year.

still waiting

Ordered on 5-1 with no updates or communication. Sent email earlier this week with an automated reply. No tracking/shipment information provided.
7-7 update: Dead.net was helpful in tracking package and providing update. Thank you and now just excited for the weekend to enjoy listening to GD

FLAC preorder downloads (where are the forum admins?)

Just dipping back in to share that I haven't heard anything either -- hard to gauge from this forum, but it seems like *nobody* who preordered FLACs has gotten them.

OTOH, I *am* seeing that people who bought them more recently have gotten them, *and* they are apparently full of mysterious silent gaps, so it seems like it's lose/lose :(

One additional weird/sad thing is that this forum supposedly has admins -- one of them posted the initial sales pitch post that started this topic -- but they have also been completely silent.

I'm suddenly flashing back to when I was in college in the late 80s, when you dealt w/the Dead directly by calling a phone number & listening to a recording of upcoming show dates, and you ordered tix by mail, and it all just worked out.

Bird Song

Does anyone have what sounds like a skip in Bird Song, (6/10) around 1:26 ?
A lot of my discs are beat up but so far they seem to play ok.
I'm not sure if I should bother contacting customer service about the damage...

The music and recording quality is amazing of course!

ispropanol

Bluecrow - thanks for mentioning this solution as being something that can remove glue from discs. So far, the only discs I have bought where this has an issue has been with some cds in the King Crimson box " Heaven and Earth." Long may it remain so.

virgohead

Yep, same exact issues right down to the BIODTL at the same exact second of silence. Still nothing from Rhino, will try to keep folks posted. Seeing similar issues on the Hoffman board with a similar lack of anything from Rhino. Pleading patience to myself here, but boy is it difficult

The State of Things So Far

I, too, discovered 6 floating discs but haven't examined for scuffs or glue.
I'm the kind of person who likes surprises, so I don't look at setlists before playing.
So far so good with discs 1 and 2. Phil is super animated on Box of Rain, and Jerry sounds great all around.
I was coming home from dinner last Friday, and Sirius was playing Estimated>China Doll from Des Moines.
Spoiled the surprise, but who cares. Then I was coming home from a BBQ and fireworks Tuesday, and guess what?
Estimated>China Doll from Kezar...what the? Feeling a little "Groundhog Day"ish, I had to check out the setlists.
Lo and behold, we have two (discs 4 and 10) He's Gone>Truckin>The Other One>Eyes of the World>China Doll>Sugar Magnolias.
All I can say is, "Let the comparative analysis begin!"

Show Artwork

Has anyone scanned the individual show artwork? I've found a few images on google, but usaully one of our more tech savvy posters puts something out there.

Good luck to those spending the weekend at the Gorge, it's gonna be hot, like really hot, 99 degrees, hopefully the music is too

update

All discs "ripped" but there will certainly be sonic anomalies where the glue is. Listened to Discs 1 - 3 from 5/13 Des Moines yesterday. Kidd's reels used for Disc 1/Set I and they sound pretty darn good but Betty's reels were used for the remainder of show as primary source and, Holy Mother of Sweetness, do they sound amazing. The Playing In The Band to close Set II is fantastic. I had a brief bit of glitchy static on the ripped version of Around and Around ending Disc 1 and when I reexamined the disc it has the tiniest "specklet" of glue near the edge that I missed in my initial quality check. So add that disc to the list of problem children. Same glitchy static with the Playing but inspecting disc no glue, still a couple specklets of dust that I cleaned off, disc played ok then, reripped at a slower speed and problem solved. Phew.

Daverock - I haven't had a chance to try the 91% isopropanol but trust the source over on the SH forum. Don't have any and It's a drive to civilization to get some, so it'll be a day or 3 and I'll report back. Rubbing alcohol is 70%, still would work according to source, but the 91% more effective and worth waiting for as far as I'm concerned. I saw comment from at least one satisfied user over there last 24 hours.

DJMAC - Patience became harder and harder for me to come by in the course of the last few years. Hopefully an official response and solution re the corrupted ALAC files in very near future. Fingers crossed.

I Woke Today - I too ordered the box first day and having sort of run out of patience with no shipping email by 6/30 release date I used the "Submit A Request" form that loads when you click Contact Us on the Store page. I had a personal response in 24 hours with a tracking # and delivery date, which, as it turned out, was going to be 7/1. I was on my way to Boulder by then so only picked it up from PO yesterday. Maybe you used the same form but if not I'd give that a shot. Good luck.

BigBrownie - An "Estimated > China Doll" from Des Moines '73? A surprise spoiled with an even bigger surprise!

Wonderful set. Great Sound,…

Wonderful CD set. Great Sound, and Jams!!! Set arrived in perfect condition.

Thanks for the good news Jameskelly

I was getting a very brown acidy feel from all the negative comments

Still waiting on mine. Hope…

Still waiting on mine. Hope it arrives well.

I got the "on the way" email 2 days after me "on the way" email for Garcia Live Vol. 20. Which I've had for 5 days now Though the 4th being in the middle certainly makes is reasonable for it to be taking a bit longer.

No tracking info though, other than "label created." Anticipation building.

djmac4289

Just for kicks I sampled the 6/10/73 BIODTL track from the Apple Music store and it played for the standard 90 seconds without cutting out. So, for this show at least, I guess Apple got the good files and dead.net customers got the beat ones. For years, I bought physical or downloaded what was made available on iTunes. This is only the second time I’ve purchased a full “box” download here, the first and only prior being just last month, the June 76 box. Those files were made in 2020 and that thing went down smooth as silk in all respects so, I figured why not on this one. Now I know why not. It seems like the quality of everything these days has been cheapened down to the bone.

Since I’m venting, I will also say I’m tired of the pre-order and subscription boogie. Just put it up for sale fer Chrissakes! I remember the days of browsing and buying the plastic CD clamshells at a record store or a Borders Music a la carte. Positively genteel. Even ordering from dead.net was more pleasant before Rhino got involved. I don’t remember any preorder BS or overdone extras when ordering Winterland 73 CDs way back when. Just a box of good music. My one regret is not getting Winterland 77 when it was available. Scarce as hen’s teeth now. Hey dead.net/Rhino, how ‘bout a reissue of that one to make up for the current SNAFU? Hehe, worth a shot…

Arrived today

This glorious box arrived today in North Carolina. It's in perfect shape with no apparent scratches, scuffs or glue on the CD's. Hopefully the playback will be fine too. Sorry to all having issues with damage control. Here's to hoping there will be some resolve. It's just unacceptable.

Detail on where the sound cuts out in downloaded Kezar show

I listened to the 5/26/73 Kezar show first, that being one that I actually attended. Here's a complete list of the silent spots in the download for that show:

Row Jimmy 5:00-6:44
Here Comes Sunshine 3:49-7:24
China Cat Sunflower 0:54-6:47
Mississippi Half-Step 3:36-7:45 (with a burst of static at the beginning of the silence)
Truckin' 3:52-8:01 (also with a burst of static)
Casey Jones 0:38-6:05

Also, did anyone notice that the cover art jpegs were all the same - RFK 6/10?

Did anyone else get the same or different results from their downloaded files?

Show cut outs....

....wow! That's bullshit to the nth degree. Totally unacceptable.

Same here Steve2973

Same exact issues here on Kezar. So far only 1 corrupted track each on 5/13 and 6/10. The three middle shows are a mess.

IT'S HERE!!!

:)))

Tapping my fingers on my desk....

....awaiting the condition of Proudfoots box. Mine had no glue or scuff issues.

Mine arrived in excellent condition

No complaints

Another fine box set. And, for various reasons, it is truly special

May all purchasers get their music

What's another day?

My package made its way to Warwick, RI from CA for a first update, then made it the 40 min up to Norwood, MA, where it has sat since just before 6am, and despite it making it a few miles from me, they have now inexplicably tacked on another day, so I should receive it Saturday now. There are worse problems, but I was hoping to listen as I did some packing tomorrow night. Now, I'll just have to choose 6/22, 24, and 26/73 for some packing music. 6/22 is fantastic, the only possible nit to pick is the sibilance of the cymbals, which 6/10 did not have. So, if UPS is right, I have backups. I hope they are wrong, and I get my box tomorrow.

Alvarhanso did some packing tomorrow night?....

....Jim! I know who borrowed your John Deere. It was that dude.
Turkuaz is a fun band.
Also, the teaser trailer for the Bob Marley movie dropped today.

Mess up a good thing

I paid the duty to Parcelforce yesterday, and as I was meeting a friend today, I arranged for it to be delivered on Monday. It would have been more still on Saturday.
Then my friend got in touch last night to cancel our get together. So here I am without a box and without a friend. Looks like it's back to the West Coast Pop Art etc etc.
That Jimi Hendrix at The Winterland 1968 is a good box, too. Well worth it. What a sound that man made.
Another good box just released could be "Written in Their Soul" a 7 cd box set of Stax demos. A 15 track sampler was included in this month's "Mojo" magazine - and if they are anything to go by it should be a great set.

Further sound cuts with digital downloads

I found the same issues with Kezar and have yet to analyze the 2 RFK shows
but I did find....

27_Truckin_Live_at_Iowa_State_Fairgrounds_Des_Moines_IA_5_13_73
(4:17 silence > 10:19)

19_Greatest_Story_Ever_Told_Campus_Stadium_UCSB_Santa_Barbara_CA_5_20_73
(1:06 silence > 4:46)
23_El_Paso_Live_at_Campus_Stadium_UCSB_Santa_Barbara_CA_5_20_73
(Silent the entire song) WTF?
26_Jam_Live_at_Campus_Stadium_UCSB_Santa_Barbara_CA_5_20_73
(7:06 silence > 7:36)
29_Stella_Blue_Live_at_Campus_Stadium_UCSB_Santa_Barbara_CA_5_20_73
(5:44 silence > 6:57)
30_Sugar_Magnolia_Live_at_Campus_Stadium_UCSB_Santa_Barbara_CA_5_20_73
(3:48 silence > 5:15)

Of course I've reached out to support and hopefully, they will correct these issues

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