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    WHAT'S INSIDE:
    Five complete, previously unreleased performances on 17CDs
    Des Moines, IA 5/13/73
    Santa Barbara, CA 5/20/73
    San Francisco, CA 5/26/73
    Washington, D.C. 6/9/73
    Washington, D.C. 6/10/73
    Recorded by Kidd Candelario, Betty Cantor-Jackson, and Owsley Stanley
    Newly restored and speed-corrected audio by Plangent Processes
    Mastered by Jeffrey Norman
    Liners featuring notes from Canadian author, Ray Robertson, The Owsley Stanley Foundation, and Legacy Manager and Audio Archivist, David Lemieux
    Art and Design by GRAMMY® Award-winning Art Director, Masaki Koike
    Custom-dyed Tenugui and an exclusive poster featuring an illustration by Mary Ann Mayer
     
    Limited Edition Individually Numbered To 10,000 
    Exclusively At Dead.net
     
    "There’s the simple fact that the band members were old enough and experienced enough by now to be virtuosos on their instruments (what other group—rock or jazz or any other kind of music—could boast a trio of spectacularly singular talents such as Garcia, Lesh, and Weir?) but were still young enough to want to play and play and play some more, the happy, itchy inclination of youth. As a few of the shows in the Here Comes Sunshine boxed set attest, it wasn’t unusual for a 1973 concert to exceed four hours. And within the shows themselves, there are nearly nightly examples of hour-long orgies of tune-linked songcraft and juicy jamming." - Ray Robertson, HERE COMES SUNSHINE 1973 Liners
     
    8 years in and the Grateful Dead are a little bit of everything to everyone. They are putting up textures and tones of rock, of jazz, of country, with set-morphing vibes and long stretches of improvisations that are completely keyed into the sum of their parts. Keith Godchaux is here with his cascading notes. Donna Jean too. Both finding their footing and keeping things steady in the wake of Pigpen's unfillable gap. The spring of 1973 feels transformative for the Dead - no more so than the May and early June shows, complementary yet remarkably different, soon-to-be cornerstones of everyone's tape collections, and now, 50 years later, set to be part of the band's official canon.
     
    HERE COMES SUNSHINE 1973 is a limited-edition, 17CD boxed set with five previously unreleased, highly sought-after Dead shows, including: Iowa State Fairgrounds, Des Moines, IA (5/13/73), Campus Stadium, UCSB, Santa Barbara, CA (5/20/73), Kezar Stadium, San Francisco, CA (5/26/73), and Robert F. Kennedy Memorial Stadium, Washington, D.C. (6/9/73) and (6/10/73).
     
    During the spring, the band road-tested most of the songs they would record that summer for WAKE OF THE FLOOD – their first studio album in three years – including early live versions of “Mississippi Half-Step Toodeloo,” “Row Jimmy,” “Stella Blue,” “Eyes Of The World,” and, the set’s namesake, “Here Comes Sunshine.” Also tucked into the collection are songs destined for the Dead’s 1974 studio album, FROM THE MARS HOTEL – “China Doll,” “Loose Lucy,” and “Wave That Flag,” a precursor to “U.S. Blues.”
     
    The new repertoire slipped neatly into the fluid setlists alongside songs honed on the 1972 European tour (“Jack Straw,” “Tennessee Jed,” “Brown-Eyed Women”), Chuck Berry perennials (“Promised Land,” “Around And Around”), classic country (“Big River,” “The Race Is On”), and incredible jam sequences: “He’s Gone”> “Truckin’”> “The Other One”> “Eyes Of The World.”
     
    Due June 30th, the individually-numbered, limited-edition 17CD set features vibrant graphics and custom-designed folios by GRAMMY® Award-winning Art Director Masaki Koike, a custom-dyed Tenugui and an exclusive poster featuring an illustration by Mary Ann Mayer, and liner notes by Canadian author Ray Robertson, The Owsley Stanley Foundation, and David Lemieux. And, of course, it features newly restored and speed-corrected audio by Plangent Processes, mastered by Jeffrey Norman.
     
    Digital convert? We've got you covered too. On the very same day you can collect your hi-definition download.

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  • #41
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    Single-show packaging way better!

    I like to store my Dead CD collection chronologically on a standard large CD shelf ... the oversized CD cases that came with May 77, HCS 73, June 78, June 76 and the 8-27-72 have made that impossible. I've moved much of my Dead collection to a book shelf to accomodate the oversized containers. In addition to being difficult to store, the larger cases are just tremendously cumbersome to take discs in and out of. By comparison, I recently bought the standalone versions of 5-8-77 and 6-10-73 just to have an extra copy in case the discs in the box sets ever go bad (damage, skipping, whatever), and the packaging is just so much better ... the CDs fit perfectly on a standard CD stand and are much easier to manipulate. My vote would go for future box sets ditching the oversized CD cases and just giving us packaging like the 5-8-77 or 6-10-73 single release.

    Update on HCS damage: I've had WMG respond asking for pictures, I've had Marye ask for my details in the hopes of getting my Disc 4 from 5-13-73 replaced (what a disc to receive in defective quality ... it's only the best disc from 5-13-73 and one of the best discs in the entire box), and nothing of substance has happened of yet (no indication that I will definitely get the disc replaced, certainly no timetable, just waiting and hoping). Peace y'all

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    Thanks for checking! We had some seepage in the basement, not too bad for 3" of rain in the second thunderstorm of the day. We also had a prolonged downpour of hail, probably 20 minutes of dime and quarter-sized hail. Never had that even in the worst NC thunderstorms. But no damage, and no trees down. Was surprised to see today that there had been rescues in town. Was out that night, luckily didn't see any water.

    Pretty awesome event you went to, it sounds like. Would love to run into our junior senator and Grace Potter.

    1stshow on Lost ending, I take Christian Shepherd at his word that "Everything that happened on the Island was real", it was the most important experience for all of them. Me and my buddies used to debate the meanings, and to me it seemed to be a stealth religious show that wasn't quite as stealth in some aspects of that like Locke vs Jack in Man of Faith vs Man of Science; I mean that is pretty blatant, but what it all means in the grand scheme is less obvious. Interesting that every single one of the main characters becomes a murderer at some point, yet they all seem to still be redeemed in the end. And the Church they end up in must be a Unitarian Universalist Church with Dharma Wheel, Star of David, Cross, Crescent and star on the walls, and Sayeed is among them. I think the Sideways Universe was Purgatory, and when they left in the Church, they moved on to their final destination.

    But the best thing about the whole show to me was John Locke, or Terry O'Quinn's portrayal. Then Michael Emerson as Linus. They really made the show for me. And of course the wonderful mysteries of the Dharma Initaitive and their reclusive funder, Alvar Hanso.

    And agree with Daverock that it would be nice for TPTB to acknowledge the pervasive quality control issues on this release, especially to say what they might do to ensure better experiences going forward.

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    I finally made it through the last of this box set. I guess I was lucky, in that I only noticed two skips. I'm not that worried about it and won't ask for a replacement. This is just my own point of view, obviously, but I would much prefer to have these come in a plain brown box and secure packaging than to have "fancy" packaging and the discs getting damaged. These are collectibles, hence the numbered series but I'd imagine the collectable aspect of this particular disc set is rather minimal. Not that I plan on selling my GD collection but if I did I'd be a bit hesitant selling this one, based on the product quality (not the music) from word of mouth (or type on screen). I'm generally not a critical person and I'm not trying to be one now but for me anyway a few more questionable end results and I may just pass going forward. I likely have three copies of almost every show out there so it isn't like I need to buy these. I just like to. If it becomes stressful and I have to deal with issues though I won't bother anymore.

    That said I know that this issue wasn't intentional. People worked hard to get us something nice. So I have no animosity and I hope the next one comes together a little more effectively. I have been generally satisfied with all of the releases. Some have been a little big size-wise for me but that's okay. So if this is it for large scale issues I'm good. I wanted to throw this out just in case anybody does read these chat boards that works in the production line for the releases.

    That's all I have. Now I'll go back to being quiet.

  • #44
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    Please please please

  • #45
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    Before another box

    There has been a fair amount of posts on here about the 73 box from people who have had discs that won't play, and about the poor presentation of the box, which has further damaged discs. Going off all that, I would think it would be better if Deadnet gave us some sort of assurance that they had read these posts, and are going to try and iron out the problems before trying to flog another giant box.
    There's only one track in my box that won't play, and that's one of the Sugar Magnolia's - so it's not worth my while doing anything about it. But it's crazy to buy boxes and feel lucky if only one or two tracks won't play.

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    Oro, Alvar, Waldo & Grace Potter

    Oro, I like the way your so called pointed little head works. Great list there and if the Primal 68/69/70 box was just 15 or so CDs, that would be enough for a good start, then they could do second batch, call it TOO #2. Alvar, hope all is well over there after yesterdays deluge, Middlebury and Rutland flooded again. Lagunitas makes a tasty seasonal triple IPA called The Waldos, is that what we talkin' bout here? (smiley face). And yes, I am smiling after attending a by invitation outdoor music event in White River Junction this afternoon that featured young musicians as well as Bernie Sanders and Grace Potter. Mostly apolitical, more about the arts, how important the arts are to school curriculum. Had a chance to speak with Bernie, then Grace. Had no idea she grew up legally blind. Made sure she knew how much I enjoyed her at Dear Jerry, doing Friend of the Devil with Bobby. Evidently her vision is better now since she drove her SUV off to Burlington for a second afternoon event. Still only half way into this HCS box, wicked busy.

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    Where’s Waldo LOL

    Yeah I hear ya on that one. I mean, who do they think is reading this stuff ; )

    And yeah, PRIMAL DEAD baby, just get it over with: 50 disc 66-70, even if just fragments from early years.
    Something on the line of E72. I know some folks watching the budget and some get saturated on “stuff”, but really it’s the only way to pay proper tribute and as I say, tick tock etc…

    Let’s Say 2 more big boxes: Primal, and another thirty trips for the 60th in 2025, the rest can be plain Jane road trips or Winterland style but up the show count per box!

    Besides those 2 biggies, regular considerations could be:
    Fall/winter 71
    Fall 72
    Winter & Spring 73
    Summer 76
    Spring 78
    80? Alaska plus…(best of year mix including….the big G)
    81-83?
    Summer 85
    Fall 89
    Summer 90
    Fall 91
    Greek, Frost, ok, maybe another biggie, call it simply California!
    Just off the top of my pointy little head…

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    Hey Oro! I'm up in T.O. keepin' jive alive! I hope all is well with you, too. Just a real busy summer, but all good. I trust your summer and your health is good.
    I agree on more boxes - get them out there. There are so many great suggestions from these posts, and it would be amazing to focus for a while on some of those early days of 1968-69-70. You had a comprehensive list a while back of all the shows from Dave’s banner back in 2011, and there is some real gold there. I agree too, Oro, on the booklets included, they always “set the stage”, but maybe it is an age thing, or some kind of eye test, but make the type a decent size to read, and perhaps black typeface on a white background, because it’s real Finding Waldo stuff trying to unscramble/decipher some of the print.
    But keep the boxes coming, but a little (a lot) of attention to Quality Control, and Customer Service.
    The recent release was a debacle, and I felt bad for anyone who got caught in that nightmare. Do better, Rhino/Dead.

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    Speaking of multis…

    Those fall 89 multis are just sitting there rotting in the vault…Dave?….Bueller?….

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    K.i.s.s. But more shows!

    Maybe it’s just me, but I feel like there’s a shelf life here as to how many more boxes they’ll end up releasing, so I’d like to see simpler, even plainer boxes, but with more shows!
    Yeah those boxes are nice (thanks again you know who for WL 73! ! ) but I’d like to see something like those, but say a little deeper with say six or 8 shows, instead of just 3…for this reason, that 2 show 89 was kinda a waste of a box. (Kinda pricey too).
    Hell, I wouldn’t mind more just music only, or like Alvarhanso, I like when they include a good book with nice pics.
    Yeah, bare bones, music, and ja book!

    Howdy Mike, I was wondering where ya were!
    Hopefully not therapy for hockey ; )

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WHAT'S INSIDE:
Five complete, previously unreleased performances on 17CDs
Des Moines, IA 5/13/73
Santa Barbara, CA 5/20/73
San Francisco, CA 5/26/73
Washington, D.C. 6/9/73
Washington, D.C. 6/10/73
Recorded by Kidd Candelario, Betty Cantor-Jackson, and Owsley Stanley
Newly restored and speed-corrected audio by Plangent Processes
Mastered by Jeffrey Norman
Liners featuring notes from Canadian author, Ray Robertson, The Owsley Stanley Foundation, and Legacy Manager and Audio Archivist, David Lemieux
Art and Design by GRAMMY® Award-winning Art Director, Masaki Koike
Custom-dyed Tenugui and an exclusive poster featuring an illustration by Mary Ann Mayer
 
Limited Edition Individually Numbered To 10,000 
Exclusively At Dead.net
 
"There’s the simple fact that the band members were old enough and experienced enough by now to be virtuosos on their instruments (what other group—rock or jazz or any other kind of music—could boast a trio of spectacularly singular talents such as Garcia, Lesh, and Weir?) but were still young enough to want to play and play and play some more, the happy, itchy inclination of youth. As a few of the shows in the Here Comes Sunshine boxed set attest, it wasn’t unusual for a 1973 concert to exceed four hours. And within the shows themselves, there are nearly nightly examples of hour-long orgies of tune-linked songcraft and juicy jamming." - Ray Robertson, HERE COMES SUNSHINE 1973 Liners
 
8 years in and the Grateful Dead are a little bit of everything to everyone. They are putting up textures and tones of rock, of jazz, of country, with set-morphing vibes and long stretches of improvisations that are completely keyed into the sum of their parts. Keith Godchaux is here with his cascading notes. Donna Jean too. Both finding their footing and keeping things steady in the wake of Pigpen's unfillable gap. The spring of 1973 feels transformative for the Dead - no more so than the May and early June shows, complementary yet remarkably different, soon-to-be cornerstones of everyone's tape collections, and now, 50 years later, set to be part of the band's official canon.
 
HERE COMES SUNSHINE 1973 is a limited-edition, 17CD boxed set with five previously unreleased, highly sought-after Dead shows, including: Iowa State Fairgrounds, Des Moines, IA (5/13/73), Campus Stadium, UCSB, Santa Barbara, CA (5/20/73), Kezar Stadium, San Francisco, CA (5/26/73), and Robert F. Kennedy Memorial Stadium, Washington, D.C. (6/9/73) and (6/10/73).
 
During the spring, the band road-tested most of the songs they would record that summer for WAKE OF THE FLOOD – their first studio album in three years – including early live versions of “Mississippi Half-Step Toodeloo,” “Row Jimmy,” “Stella Blue,” “Eyes Of The World,” and, the set’s namesake, “Here Comes Sunshine.” Also tucked into the collection are songs destined for the Dead’s 1974 studio album, FROM THE MARS HOTEL – “China Doll,” “Loose Lucy,” and “Wave That Flag,” a precursor to “U.S. Blues.”
 
The new repertoire slipped neatly into the fluid setlists alongside songs honed on the 1972 European tour (“Jack Straw,” “Tennessee Jed,” “Brown-Eyed Women”), Chuck Berry perennials (“Promised Land,” “Around And Around”), classic country (“Big River,” “The Race Is On”), and incredible jam sequences: “He’s Gone”> “Truckin’”> “The Other One”> “Eyes Of The World.”
 
Due June 30th, the individually-numbered, limited-edition 17CD set features vibrant graphics and custom-designed folios by GRAMMY® Award-winning Art Director Masaki Koike, a custom-dyed Tenugui and an exclusive poster featuring an illustration by Mary Ann Mayer, and liner notes by Canadian author Ray Robertson, The Owsley Stanley Foundation, and David Lemieux. And, of course, it features newly restored and speed-corrected audio by Plangent Processes, mastered by Jeffrey Norman.
 
Digital convert? We've got you covered too. On the very same day you can collect your hi-definition download.

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Submitted by billy the kiddd on Wed, 07/05/2023 - 09:55

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The booklet is in with the Des Moines cds, you just gotta poke around.

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Submitted by Elbow49 on Wed, 07/05/2023 - 10:22

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I can't even download my files. I have a box set that I think has been with UPS since last Friday but has been "Delayed due to operating conditions". I think it finally left California yesterday for delivery to Baltimore hopefully some time next week. The delivery date is still "pending". They do great work on these box sets. I don't understand why we have to work so hard to get it.

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Submitted by Junk1234 on Wed, 07/05/2023 - 10:42

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For my own sanity - has anyone who pre-ordered the digital files been able to download? The last communication I had back to me was on Saturday afternoon, with an email saying that they were sorry I was experiencing technical issues with the digital download, they are investigating the issue and will follow up as soon as possible. Since then, nothing.

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Submitted by Colin Gould on Wed, 07/05/2023 - 10:48

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My copy is currently held in customs in the UK. Hopefully, I’ll hear tomorrow whether they need me to pay any duty on it so that it can be delivered soon.

Nope, you're not alone -- still waiting. Nothing from support beyond the form email everyone got over the weekend. Are we trending towards "credit card company dispute" territory at this point? I feel like they could at least send another email out to ppl who preordered FLACs with a status update. :(

Junk1234:

For my own sanity - has anyone who pre-ordered the digital files been able to download? The last communication I had back to me was on Saturday afternoon, with an email saying that they were sorry I was experiencing technical issues with the digital download, they are investigating the issue and will follow up as soon as possible. Since then, nothing.

Picked it up from the Post Office this morning. None of the discs were loose but maybe only 3 were fully seated, and the funny thing was the fully seated ones were way snug and sorta hard to get out. To echo the sentiment of many it seems a seriously flawed design. My CDs aren't going back in those slots. As for condition - most had some sort of dust which was relatively easy to deal with. Disc 4 of Des Moines has a speck of glue towards the edge. Disc 1 of June 9 has a speck of "something" stuck to it right in the middle. Disc 1 of Kezar has glue on the edge but not playing surface. On Steve Hoffman thread 91% isopropanol is the recommended way to remove glue. Disc 3 of Kezar and Disc 3 of 1st RFK have light scratch/scuff marks and my thought was that it had to happen before being inserted in the slots because scuff marks were at an angle to insertion. Maybe one other disc where I spotted an issue but can't remember which right now. I'll reach out for replacements as necessary.

DJMac - Don't think I've seen anybody comment with the problems your having either here or the dedicated thread for this box on the Steve Hoffman Music Forum. I'd reach out to Dead net and Rhino of course but in the interim I think you might have better luck tapping into trouble shooting advice, if that's something you're looking for, on the Steve Hoffman thread. Good luck.

And as for the Dead and Co discussion here - guilty as charged and I probably started the whole thing by mentioning that I was headed last minute to the shows in Boulder. Big Tent as to what gets discussed on any particular thread.

Thank you for the info and have a note into Rhino already, but will check out the SH forum as well.

Re DeadCo, no worries, it truly is a catch all here. Frankly I am just fatigued 7 years into this outfit of the constant Love Em/Loathe Em stuff and the associated proselytizing efforts each side undergoes. By now, if you don't dig em, you won't be convinced by anyone that you should. And if you do dig em, the naysayers are equally exasperating. I fall squarely into one of those camps in a big way, but respect all sides of the coin. Its a true OMGWAMS situation.

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Submitted by PT Barnum on Wed, 07/05/2023 - 12:02

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wow, check it out if you can find a video, reminds me of several excursions taken back in the day. D & C love them or hate them Mickey and Bob still going at it, gotta love that if nothing else. Saw a video of the drone light show in Boulder, again, wow, check out that Dragon, with matches.
I would love to see a 91 release in this series. Spacebro wants 4-1-91, but those 3 shows in Orlando right after that are quite impressive also, especially that 4-8 show.

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Submitted by djmac4289 on Wed, 07/05/2023 - 12:06

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In addition to all those mentioned, would offer up 4-27, 6-6, 6-24 and 6-25 as well.

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Submitted by Obeah on Wed, 07/05/2023 - 12:49

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Well, #08749 is here. I'm WFH today and it's super quiet, so I am just beginning my unboxing. My first thought was, "hey, no booklet?" so I dropped what I was doing to come over here and read this thread. Once I realized I'd missed it, I went back. Mine was hiding inside of the first sleeve or whatever these big things are called.

Initial thoughts: these shows are legendary and I can't believe I'm holding official releases almost 50 years to the dates. We're some lucky fans. Thank you, Dave Lemeiux and Jeff Norman, and the producers at Rhino; thank you Kidd, Betty, and Owsley.

That said, now I guess I'd better start carefully looking at my CDs for scratches or glue, ugh. Hope I'll get lucky, because I don't relish trying to find a human at Warner to take care of me otherwise. Because believe it or not, I *still* do not have my Dave's Picks 46... I think they are finally taking care of me, but it feels like WEA took a page out of Twitter's book and decided that they could hollow out the customer service/support dept without anyone noticing...

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Submitted by ThinkingTexan on Wed, 07/05/2023 - 13:37

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BOX 00088 arrived safe in SW Houston today. So far all seems well, best of luck to everyone else.

Apparent delivery time.

Patience, bro.

DnC...if they played in the city instead of the Gorge I might go. But also ticket prices...I will use the money for more GD.

It's quite scary, seeing if any extra duty will need paying. Then it will be even more scary when it arrives, and I open it up to see what condition all the discs are in, and find out if they play or not.

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Submitted by dmcvt on Wed, 07/05/2023 - 14:38

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at my tiny rural PO in Vermont, just picked it up. Tortured myself by reading comments on Steve Hoffman, so opened it VERY carefully. Nicely but oh so impractically packaged as many have noted. Six discs were loose, all of those lightly scuffed, one with a significant scratch that likely did not happen because of cardboard sleeves. Three discs were very difficult to remove due to glue residue on their stuck edges, two others less badly stuck. Really, the most nightmare beautiful packaging yet, discs will be placed into something far more safe, leaving the wonder, why. Would vastly prefer simple, space efficient format like the Winterland boxes, even 76/78 boxes, don't need extras beyond booklet with details and a few photos. Maybe WMG can produce two versions, basic and deluxe collector. Now on to the important stuff, the music.

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Submitted by alvarhanso on Wed, 07/05/2023 - 15:11

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Is an absolutely monumental show until He's Gone. If they had closed it there, still would be an all timer. The third set did nothing for me. And it reminded me that I have listened to this show on the Archive at least a couple times over the years. I probably skipped the first set back then. This time, loved first and second sets (up to Wharf Rat, and with the exception of a couple others), and was bored with set 3. I expected guitar fireworks, instead, Jerry and Dickey both play rather tentatively, and very quietly. There are some nice moments, to be sure, but I was fairly let down by the last set and parts of the second set. I can't remember if it was here of the Steve Hoffman board, but somebody mentined Wharf Rat being off in the vocal delivery and being abandoned to Truckin' quickly. I think Stella Blue is much worse. It's very much like the DaP 24 8/25/72 version where Jerry sings it terribly, trying to find the right delivery. (Or on too much of something, which is my hypothesis for 8/25/72 as well as for 6/10/73). The Bird Song, Playing, Eyes, Here Comes Sunshine, Dark Star, and He's Gone are all sublime. I really really liked this show, but I don't ever recall feeling like I was waiting for a show to be done, and every song after He's Gone I was just amazed that they kept going. I was exhausted listening to it.

Still awaiting my box, so no other new, old Dead tunes to blast. Cannot wait to dive into 5/13.

Also, pre-emptive thanks to whomever advocated signing up to UPS to get them to auto-upgrade all SurePost to UPS delivery. Hoping that works, also having them deliver to nearby UPS Store as there have been reports of packages going missing in my building, and not risking shenanigans,

Lastly, I will join SpaceBrother in advocating 4/1/91, but with 3/31. Both will fit together on 4cds.

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Submitted by VirgoHead on Wed, 07/05/2023 - 16:21

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I posted a comment early on the 4th about having the same issues. I’m working my way through the shows and keep finding tracks with dead air. I’m up to 18, the latest being Beat it on down the line from 6/10/73 crapping out around 0:47 in. As you mentioned, every track of third disc content of 5/20/73 except Truckin’ was corrupted. I have email into Rhino but still nothing other than generic auto reply.

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Submitted by proudfoot on Wed, 07/05/2023 - 18:20

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I think he warbled a bit because he was probably

REALLY, REALLY HIGH.

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Submitted by Angry Jack Straw on Wed, 07/05/2023 - 19:48

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I haven’t had time to fully dive in since I’m still decompressing from the Taylor Swift concert.

So far I have only listened to the 6/10 Bird Song. That alone is worth the money. I almost feel like if I listen to any more of this box set it would be akin to stealing.

Whatever happened to that tune anyway? The earlier versions of 72 and especially 73 are transcendental. To me it really never regained its glory in the later years.

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Submitted by TripsMac on Wed, 07/05/2023 - 20:18

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So unbelievably disappointed. It arrived with over half of the discs scuffed and scratched. Many skip and two have glue imbedded in the discs. It's absolutely unacceptable and I contacted WRner directly. I've had way too many issues with DEAD.NET

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Submitted by TripsMac on Wed, 07/05/2023 - 20:23

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My favorite bands website is apparently being run by the keystone cops. I'm sure that you have dropped hundreds here at least..if not more. I've had multiple issues with this website, ordering, damaged packages, late packages, etc. It's inexcusable and incredibly frustrating. Hopefully you get some answers. I'd go to WARNER DIRECTLY.

....when the glass came shattered, I stumbled across something called damage control on this site. Don't ask me how.
I was high. I stumbled. And it worked.
Seriously though, I hope you all get your '73 GOGD. I'm familiar with the frustration.
And I've spent a pretty penny here fo sho.
Edit....GarciaLive 20 arrived. The Simple Twist Of Fate is stunning. Good shit.

As for FLAC-control&FLAC-updates from Dead.net (crickets... crickets...). It can't end good for pre-order customers: no money, no product.

I'm quite astounded they've ignored it all. As if "the plane has not crashed."

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Submitted by steve2973 on Wed, 07/05/2023 - 22:49

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I've been having those problems too. I just ordered and downloaded the shows yesterday, so I've only played the Kezar show so far (my second Dead show IRL). There are several dead spots in the audio, most lasting several minutes.

I've been sending tech support a list of exactly where the dead spots are. So far, no response...

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Submitted by Colin Gould on Thu, 07/06/2023 - 01:03

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Parcelforce tracking shows my boxset is being held in Liverpool until the customs charge is paid. Unfortunately they don’t tell me how much this is so I can’t pay until I get a letter from them! With our postal service I now expect to see the box sometime next week.

EDIT: After a little poking around I saw that I didn’t need to wait for the letter, by telephoning Parcelforce I was able to get the required 17 digit code and then pay on-line. £45.57 which I think is the same Dave Rock has been asked for. Delivery is scheduled for tomorrow. Then I can spend the weekend checking it is OK.

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Submitted by daverock on Thu, 07/06/2023 - 03:14

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I got a letter from Parcel Force today, telling me they are holding a parcel for me from overseas. Before it will be delivered, I need to pay them £45-57. This breaks down as £33.57 Import VAT and £12-00 Clearance Fee.
I hope Deadnet don't release anything else I want this year.

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Submitted by I Woke Today on Thu, 07/06/2023 - 05:10

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Ordered on 5-1 with no updates or communication. Sent email earlier this week with an automated reply. No tracking/shipment information provided.
7-7 update: Dead.net was helpful in tracking package and providing update. Thank you and now just excited for the weekend to enjoy listening to GD

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Submitted by rossgrady on Thu, 07/06/2023 - 06:05

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Just dipping back in to share that I haven't heard anything either -- hard to gauge from this forum, but it seems like *nobody* who preordered FLACs has gotten them.

OTOH, I *am* seeing that people who bought them more recently have gotten them, *and* they are apparently full of mysterious silent gaps, so it seems like it's lose/lose :(

One additional weird/sad thing is that this forum supposedly has admins -- one of them posted the initial sales pitch post that started this topic -- but they have also been completely silent.

I'm suddenly flashing back to when I was in college in the late 80s, when you dealt w/the Dead directly by calling a phone number & listening to a recording of upcoming show dates, and you ordered tix by mail, and it all just worked out.

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Submitted by JoeyMC on Thu, 07/06/2023 - 06:23

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Does anyone have what sounds like a skip in Bird Song, (6/10) around 1:26 ?
A lot of my discs are beat up but so far they seem to play ok.
I'm not sure if I should bother contacting customer service about the damage...

The music and recording quality is amazing of course!

Bluecrow - thanks for mentioning this solution as being something that can remove glue from discs. So far, the only discs I have bought where this has an issue has been with some cds in the King Crimson box " Heaven and Earth." Long may it remain so.

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Submitted by djmac4289 on Thu, 07/06/2023 - 07:06

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Yep, same exact issues right down to the BIODTL at the same exact second of silence. Still nothing from Rhino, will try to keep folks posted. Seeing similar issues on the Hoffman board with a similar lack of anything from Rhino. Pleading patience to myself here, but boy is it difficult

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Submitted by bigbrownie on Thu, 07/06/2023 - 10:38

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I, too, discovered 6 floating discs but haven't examined for scuffs or glue.
I'm the kind of person who likes surprises, so I don't look at setlists before playing.
So far so good with discs 1 and 2. Phil is super animated on Box of Rain, and Jerry sounds great all around.
I was coming home from dinner last Friday, and Sirius was playing Estimated>China Doll from Des Moines.
Spoiled the surprise, but who cares. Then I was coming home from a BBQ and fireworks Tuesday, and guess what?
Estimated>China Doll from Kezar...what the? Feeling a little "Groundhog Day"ish, I had to check out the setlists.
Lo and behold, we have two (discs 4 and 10) He's Gone>Truckin>The Other One>Eyes of the World>China Doll>Sugar Magnolias.
All I can say is, "Let the comparative analysis begin!"

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Submitted by itsburnsy on Thu, 07/06/2023 - 10:51

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Has anyone scanned the individual show artwork? I've found a few images on google, but usaully one of our more tech savvy posters puts something out there.

Good luck to those spending the weekend at the Gorge, it's gonna be hot, like really hot, 99 degrees, hopefully the music is too

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Submitted by bluecrow on Thu, 07/06/2023 - 11:04

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All discs "ripped" but there will certainly be sonic anomalies where the glue is. Listened to Discs 1 - 3 from 5/13 Des Moines yesterday. Kidd's reels used for Disc 1/Set I and they sound pretty darn good but Betty's reels were used for the remainder of show as primary source and, Holy Mother of Sweetness, do they sound amazing. The Playing In The Band to close Set II is fantastic. I had a brief bit of glitchy static on the ripped version of Around and Around ending Disc 1 and when I reexamined the disc it has the tiniest "specklet" of glue near the edge that I missed in my initial quality check. So add that disc to the list of problem children. Same glitchy static with the Playing but inspecting disc no glue, still a couple specklets of dust that I cleaned off, disc played ok then, reripped at a slower speed and problem solved. Phew.

Daverock - I haven't had a chance to try the 91% isopropanol but trust the source over on the SH forum. Don't have any and It's a drive to civilization to get some, so it'll be a day or 3 and I'll report back. Rubbing alcohol is 70%, still would work according to source, but the 91% more effective and worth waiting for as far as I'm concerned. I saw comment from at least one satisfied user over there last 24 hours.

DJMAC - Patience became harder and harder for me to come by in the course of the last few years. Hopefully an official response and solution re the corrupted ALAC files in very near future. Fingers crossed.

I Woke Today - I too ordered the box first day and having sort of run out of patience with no shipping email by 6/30 release date I used the "Submit A Request" form that loads when you click Contact Us on the Store page. I had a personal response in 24 hours with a tracking # and delivery date, which, as it turned out, was going to be 7/1. I was on my way to Boulder by then so only picked it up from PO yesterday. Maybe you used the same form but if not I'd give that a shot. Good luck.

BigBrownie - An "Estimated > China Doll" from Des Moines '73? A surprise spoiled with an even bigger surprise!

Still waiting on mine. Hope it arrives well.

I got the "on the way" email 2 days after me "on the way" email for Garcia Live Vol. 20. Which I've had for 5 days now Though the 4th being in the middle certainly makes is reasonable for it to be taking a bit longer.

No tracking info though, other than "label created." Anticipation building.

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Submitted by VirgoHead on Thu, 07/06/2023 - 12:42

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Just for kicks I sampled the 6/10/73 BIODTL track from the Apple Music store and it played for the standard 90 seconds without cutting out. So, for this show at least, I guess Apple got the good files and dead.net customers got the beat ones. For years, I bought physical or downloaded what was made available on iTunes. This is only the second time I’ve purchased a full “box” download here, the first and only prior being just last month, the June 76 box. Those files were made in 2020 and that thing went down smooth as silk in all respects so, I figured why not on this one. Now I know why not. It seems like the quality of everything these days has been cheapened down to the bone.

Since I’m venting, I will also say I’m tired of the pre-order and subscription boogie. Just put it up for sale fer Chrissakes! I remember the days of browsing and buying the plastic CD clamshells at a record store or a Borders Music a la carte. Positively genteel. Even ordering from dead.net was more pleasant before Rhino got involved. I don’t remember any preorder BS or overdone extras when ordering Winterland 73 CDs way back when. Just a box of good music. My one regret is not getting Winterland 77 when it was available. Scarce as hen’s teeth now. Hey dead.net/Rhino, how ‘bout a reissue of that one to make up for the current SNAFU? Hehe, worth a shot…

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Submitted by musicnow on Thu, 07/06/2023 - 13:29

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This glorious box arrived today in North Carolina. It's in perfect shape with no apparent scratches, scuffs or glue on the CD's. Hopefully the playback will be fine too. Sorry to all having issues with damage control. Here's to hoping there will be some resolve. It's just unacceptable.

I listened to the 5/26/73 Kezar show first, that being one that I actually attended. Here's a complete list of the silent spots in the download for that show:

Row Jimmy 5:00-6:44
Here Comes Sunshine 3:49-7:24
China Cat Sunflower 0:54-6:47
Mississippi Half-Step 3:36-7:45 (with a burst of static at the beginning of the silence)
Truckin' 3:52-8:01 (also with a burst of static)
Casey Jones 0:38-6:05

Also, did anyone notice that the cover art jpegs were all the same - RFK 6/10?

Did anyone else get the same or different results from their downloaded files?

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Submitted by alvarhanso on Thu, 07/06/2023 - 20:13

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My package made its way to Warwick, RI from CA for a first update, then made it the 40 min up to Norwood, MA, where it has sat since just before 6am, and despite it making it a few miles from me, they have now inexplicably tacked on another day, so I should receive it Saturday now. There are worse problems, but I was hoping to listen as I did some packing tomorrow night. Now, I'll just have to choose 6/22, 24, and 26/73 for some packing music. 6/22 is fantastic, the only possible nit to pick is the sibilance of the cymbals, which 6/10 did not have. So, if UPS is right, I have backups. I hope they are wrong, and I get my box tomorrow.

I paid the duty to Parcelforce yesterday, and as I was meeting a friend today, I arranged for it to be delivered on Monday. It would have been more still on Saturday.
Then my friend got in touch last night to cancel our get together. So here I am without a box and without a friend. Looks like it's back to the West Coast Pop Art etc etc.
That Jimi Hendrix at The Winterland 1968 is a good box, too. Well worth it. What a sound that man made.
Another good box just released could be "Written in Their Soul" a 7 cd box set of Stax demos. A 15 track sampler was included in this month's "Mojo" magazine - and if they are anything to go by it should be a great set.

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Submitted by thetweaker on Fri, 07/07/2023 - 06:44

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I found the same issues with Kezar and have yet to analyze the 2 RFK shows
but I did find....

27_Truckin_Live_at_Iowa_State_Fairgrounds_Des_Moines_IA_5_13_73
(4:17 silence > 10:19)

19_Greatest_Story_Ever_Told_Campus_Stadium_UCSB_Santa_Barbara_CA_5_20_73
(1:06 silence > 4:46)
23_El_Paso_Live_at_Campus_Stadium_UCSB_Santa_Barbara_CA_5_20_73
(Silent the entire song) WTF?
26_Jam_Live_at_Campus_Stadium_UCSB_Santa_Barbara_CA_5_20_73
(7:06 silence > 7:36)
29_Stella_Blue_Live_at_Campus_Stadium_UCSB_Santa_Barbara_CA_5_20_73
(5:44 silence > 6:57)
30_Sugar_Magnolia_Live_at_Campus_Stadium_UCSB_Santa_Barbara_CA_5_20_73
(3:48 silence > 5:15)

Of course I've reached out to support and hopefully, they will correct these issues

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