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    WHAT'S INSIDE:
    Five complete, previously unreleased performances on 17CDs
    Des Moines, IA 5/13/73
    Santa Barbara, CA 5/20/73
    San Francisco, CA 5/26/73
    Washington, D.C. 6/9/73
    Washington, D.C. 6/10/73
    Recorded by Kidd Candelario, Betty Cantor-Jackson, and Owsley Stanley
    Newly restored and speed-corrected audio by Plangent Processes
    Mastered by Jeffrey Norman
    Liners featuring notes from Canadian author, Ray Robertson, The Owsley Stanley Foundation, and Legacy Manager and Audio Archivist, David Lemieux
    Art and Design by GRAMMY® Award-winning Art Director, Masaki Koike
    Custom-dyed Tenugui and an exclusive poster featuring an illustration by Mary Ann Mayer
     
    Limited Edition Individually Numbered To 10,000 
    Exclusively At Dead.net
     
    "There’s the simple fact that the band members were old enough and experienced enough by now to be virtuosos on their instruments (what other group—rock or jazz or any other kind of music—could boast a trio of spectacularly singular talents such as Garcia, Lesh, and Weir?) but were still young enough to want to play and play and play some more, the happy, itchy inclination of youth. As a few of the shows in the Here Comes Sunshine boxed set attest, it wasn’t unusual for a 1973 concert to exceed four hours. And within the shows themselves, there are nearly nightly examples of hour-long orgies of tune-linked songcraft and juicy jamming." - Ray Robertson, HERE COMES SUNSHINE 1973 Liners
     
    8 years in and the Grateful Dead are a little bit of everything to everyone. They are putting up textures and tones of rock, of jazz, of country, with set-morphing vibes and long stretches of improvisations that are completely keyed into the sum of their parts. Keith Godchaux is here with his cascading notes. Donna Jean too. Both finding their footing and keeping things steady in the wake of Pigpen's unfillable gap. The spring of 1973 feels transformative for the Dead - no more so than the May and early June shows, complementary yet remarkably different, soon-to-be cornerstones of everyone's tape collections, and now, 50 years later, set to be part of the band's official canon.
     
    HERE COMES SUNSHINE 1973 is a limited-edition, 17CD boxed set with five previously unreleased, highly sought-after Dead shows, including: Iowa State Fairgrounds, Des Moines, IA (5/13/73), Campus Stadium, UCSB, Santa Barbara, CA (5/20/73), Kezar Stadium, San Francisco, CA (5/26/73), and Robert F. Kennedy Memorial Stadium, Washington, D.C. (6/9/73) and (6/10/73).
     
    During the spring, the band road-tested most of the songs they would record that summer for WAKE OF THE FLOOD – their first studio album in three years – including early live versions of “Mississippi Half-Step Toodeloo,” “Row Jimmy,” “Stella Blue,” “Eyes Of The World,” and, the set’s namesake, “Here Comes Sunshine.” Also tucked into the collection are songs destined for the Dead’s 1974 studio album, FROM THE MARS HOTEL – “China Doll,” “Loose Lucy,” and “Wave That Flag,” a precursor to “U.S. Blues.”
     
    The new repertoire slipped neatly into the fluid setlists alongside songs honed on the 1972 European tour (“Jack Straw,” “Tennessee Jed,” “Brown-Eyed Women”), Chuck Berry perennials (“Promised Land,” “Around And Around”), classic country (“Big River,” “The Race Is On”), and incredible jam sequences: “He’s Gone”> “Truckin’”> “The Other One”> “Eyes Of The World.”
     
    Due June 30th, the individually-numbered, limited-edition 17CD set features vibrant graphics and custom-designed folios by GRAMMY® Award-winning Art Director Masaki Koike, a custom-dyed Tenugui and an exclusive poster featuring an illustration by Mary Ann Mayer, and liner notes by Canadian author Ray Robertson, The Owsley Stanley Foundation, and David Lemieux. And, of course, it features newly restored and speed-corrected audio by Plangent Processes, mastered by Jeffrey Norman.
     
    Digital convert? We've got you covered too. On the very same day you can collect your hi-definition download.

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  • #611
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    More or less decided to leave the analog system alone.
    Likely go to a separate 5.1 A/V receiver dedicated to some new old speakers.
    There is great stuff available for next to nothing as folks upgrade their systems.
    Have some very reliable vendor/techs I trust too.
    Esta todo bien.
    Cheers and thanks again

  • #612
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    Let me know what gear your trying to integrate and I can look it up and make suggestions if you like?

  • #613
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    That discussion helped me figure some things out too.
    Vaguely thinking about having the TV sound through the big system.
    You are The Man on this subject. Don't need an electrician.
    Cheers and thanks!

  • #614
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    Hey amigo,
    Sorry for being so tardy, been busier than a one legged man in an ass kicking contest.
    I did look up your amp and it’s an integrated analog only unit. The “integrated”means it’s has both the pre amp section, and the power amp section all in one box. From looking at the back of the unit from a photo of one for sale, it appears it’s analog only. Sorry I just haven’t had time to look up specs etc.
    I’m wondering now what make and model tv you have? I’m guessing they were trying to back feed the audio from the tv to your integrated amp. Depending on years and models etc, that could be via an analog out of the tv, or optical, which is a digital connection. Like most things, to maximize profits, analog connections are often going away…

    Since your amp is all analog, it does not have a a digital section or DAC (digital to analog converter) so i would think it would have to be the former: your amp cannot connect directly to a digital source, unless it has its own DAC, which is what your CD player is doing. This is why they commented on age of the unit, not because it’s no longer usable!

    The tech probably just had to adjust some audio settings in the TV in order to output analog audio back to your amp.
    I’m not sure why they didn’t just follow suite with your cable box and Blu-ray player and run analog out of those units and into your amp like your CD player? Perhaps sync/delay issues? Sometimes the audio and video can get slightly out of sync when utilizing different paths depending on electronics?
    The switching would be an extra step but the sound would probably be better, (as long as no sync issues) though perhaps your cable or Sat box doesn’t have any analog outs. It’s unfortunately becoming more common to only have an HDMI video output?
    A increasingly more common approach to a basic TV set up is to run your sources into the tv via HDMI, and back feed audio via ARC (audio return channel via HDMI) but that requires a tv and receiver or integrated amp that supports it. This is mostly for cost and convenience so you only have to switch TV inputs and have all the video audio on one input channel of your amp. But I could walk you through wiring your video source audio direct to your amp if your interested, and depending on what kind of outputs your sources have: HDMI only or with something else i.e., optical, coax, or analog etc.
    To find out, just look at the back of your Cable or Sat box and your Blu-ray player: outputs should be labeled, but if not, you can tell by looking. RCA analog connections are what’s on the back of your integrated amp. If you see some that look like these your all set. If besides HDMI there is only optical or coax, your out of luck (digital coax is usually an orange color, at least in the states? Analog RCA are usually Red for right, and white for left). Many will only have HDMI.

    The good news is I don’t see any reason why you need to upgrade your amp if you like it and don’t want to!
    Perhaps the next best upgrade you could make if you kept the amp, would be to get an asynchronous DAC.
    That way you could utilize all your digital connections on your various digital sources, routing them into the DAC for conversion, with just one analog out of the DAC to your amp. You’d leave the amp on the same input (except turntable which being analog already would still go to directly the amps phono stage (though you could upgrade to a separate one of those also). You would do the switching of sources on the DAC instead of the amp.
    But you don’t have to do this, it would just be a nice upgrade as the DAC chip sets in most things are cheap garbage, especially TVs!! Your CD players DAC is probably at least decent?
    Right now, it sounds like your video sources are being converted in your tv, no bueno!
    The DACs they use in TVs and computers, and most lower cost electronics cost less than a dollar, a good separate DAC can range from a hundred dollars up to a hundred grand, so obviously something made to do a specific job should be an improvement over doing it the cheapest way possible…
    Another option if you do think about replacing the amp is to get a new integrated amp with digital inputs, though they might not do HDMI. Some now are utilizing the ARC technology I mentioned above. A good integrated should have a decent DAC so you could use whatever digital output your tv has to back feed from tv to the DAC, or run separate audio from the source to the DAC, and video to the tv, leaving the cheap tv electronics out of the audio chain.

    Similar, and most convenient would be a new AVR or Audio Video receiver. These usually have HDMI and analog inputs so you can run all your video sources into it with one HDMI video out to your Telly. You could run your CD digital or analog to it depending on the AVRs capabilities and preferences. You would have to make sure it has the correct phono stage for your turntable, or get a separate phono stage. AVRs, unless super high end, are usually not going to have as good components/electronics as a good integrated amp, or perhaps even a good DAC with your existing amp? Their designed for switching, convenience, a Jack of all trades but master of none if you will.
    Also, their more for surround sound etc, and I believe you have 2 channel so it would probably be money better spent on gear tailored more for your needs…but it’s a viable option…

    LOL, Yes, I wish I did live down the street, after I tweeked your system, we could go have a pint and play verbal tennis about our favorite bands etc. AND, I have a pre-pro that’d I could sell ya cheap that would probably solve your issues, Dooaahh!

    Still not quite sure what they ment about your amp effecting your CDs/player? It makes no sense?
    I have seen units that might have some brief latency between the audio and display, but that has nothing to do with what it’s connected to. I’m not sure of any audio gear that depends on everything in the chain “talking” to each other, only HDMI. Though not common there theoretically could be an all HDMI audio chain, but even then I’m not sure there’d be the same “handshake” issues that occur with HDMI video?

    Ok, sorry, that’s too much at once I suspect?
    Get me more intel and I’ll follow up with you.
    - what make/model TV do you have!
    - list all your video sources?
    - what kind of outputs does your Cable or Sat box, or other video sources have? (Please see above for instructions)
    - what is more important to you, maximizing audio, or convenience and ease of operations?

    I hope to have at least a little time this WE so if you can get back to me I might be able to figure more out.

    Sorry to rest for going on, hey, once a geek…
    besides, y’all can perhaps learn something from my tutorials that will help you maximize your GOGD audio nirvana!
    Hey, Who wouldn’t want to experience the most of all the plangent aural ecstasy lovingly provided by the likes of Norman and Glasser ; )

  • #615
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    So far all of the CDs I've purchased since the 1980s still work fine. I rip all mine and keep them stored. Some discs I bring to play in the car, but never the limited edition ones.

  • #616
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    Hey Oro-sorry it's taken me a while to respond to your post. This is where I show my ignorance - more than usual. I don't actually know what kind of cables I've got. When I bought my cd player, a guy from the shop came to set it up for me, and he brought these cables with him.
    This cd player, it was 2019 when I got it, is a Rega Saturn - R. The amplifier, which I got about 1997 has "Isobel 50 W solid state integrated amplifier" printed on the top.
    I bought the speakers in 1997 too. I can't remember what make they are!
    My record player is a pro ject, and I got that about 2018.

    So, a very random approach. Both the cd player and the records sound great to me though. The last Dead I played was from the PNW box - 5/17/74. A really sparkling sound-especially that of Jerry and Keith.

    I got the idea that my amplifier might not be a bit antiquated when I bought an Oled telly and blu ray player last year. For some reason, I couldn't get the sound to come out of my speakers, despite the fact that it was wired up to do so. Three people came out from the shop - and the last one managed to get it to work. I don't know what he did, but he said that because the amp was made in a way that they no longer make 'em, it couldn't pick up the signal from the tv/blu ray. He tinkered about with it ( getting a it technical here) and hey presto! Sound!

    The other thing is, when I listen to a cd - say track 3, the display panel still shows track 2 until a few seconds after track3 has started playing. This engineer who sorted it out told me that the delay was due to the amp being as old and different as it is, and that it took time to pick up the signal from the cd player. I really don't know whether what he said was correct or not.

    It's a pity you don't live down the road, really, so you could pop in and have a look. What do you mean "thank God for small mercies"!

  • #617
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    I always rip them to my server immediately out of the package, then put them back and on the shelf.
    I used to also make a CD back up copy, but I’ve not been lately.
    As far as I can recall, I’ve only had problems with the music only Boxilla.
    I had a Hellava time ripping some of those discs. I think I eventually got them all, but some took hours to rip.
    Considering what that box cost, it was a stressful unpleasant experience.

    DR: your amp shouldn’t be a problem. Sounds perhaps like a sales pitch?
    A good analog amplifier can last decades, and should have nothing to do with discs being troublesome.
    Speakers and amplifiers if well built, do not need to be upgraded unless you don’t like how they sound, or obviously if they break.
    All an amplifier does is take the final, processed signal if you will, which is always eventually analog, and which is very low level, and amplifies it so it can drive the speakers. It just takes a very low level signal, and makes it loud, that’s all.
    Now this is a separate amplifier I’m speaking of, if you have an “all in one”, or receiver, those have a pre amp and often a digital processor, along with an amplifier, all in one box.
    If so, they might be talking about the front end or pre amp/processing section, but the amplifier is still just an amp like described above, it’s just lives in the same box.
    I’m curious what kind of cable or connection you have with your CD player?
    Actually, I’m curious about your whole set up…

  • #618
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    My older DaPs are physically peeling. For me it's the discs, not the player(s). YMMV

    Lesson: Check and Rip your discs immediately. -edit- And....Do NOT store them in a hot car...Slaps Head (thank God I followed my own ripping advice) :-) :-) :-)¯

  • #619
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    Interesting messages about hi fi maintenance. I am a real luddite when it come to technology. One of my friends recently suggested I try switching it off and on at the mains. That's about my level, I'm afraid.

    Apart from one cd from a 1976 Daves Picks, all mine have played well. And the ones in boxes.The ones that don't play so well are ones I have had for a while, and they always seem to play on my very cheap portable player if not my hi fi. So it seems that it's the hi fi that is at fault.
    The worst experience has been a T.Rex box set. A lot of people complained about these discs on Amazon, but mine played alright. That was last year. This year none of them will play.

    My front room can be a bit dusty - I have an open, and unused fireplace not too far from my hi fi. I keep it well dusted and have even taken to putting an old tee shirt on the system to keep the gremlins out. I think for me that could be a problem - that and the age and mismatch of my amplifier with the new stuff. I said earlier it was 20 years old-nearer 27, when I think about it .

    Not only this - I now need a new stylus. The last time I got one, the guy from the shop came to my house to attach it. His assistant came first, and he couldn't do it - so the owner of the shop came out and fitted it. Don't know how I am going to get the darn thing in place on my own. It was never a problem in the 70'-80's.

  • #620
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    My Onkyo 6-disc changer started having drop outs in random spots. I would rewind and play again and the drop out was not there. So I think it was an electronics issue and not dust. Replaced the Onkyo with a Cambridge Audio and the CD’s played fine and even sounded better.

    I have CD’s from a variety of bands where the CD’s play fine on both the Onkyo and the Cambridge Audio players, but a good copy cannot be made to a hard drive. Redoing it with the same burner, or doing it on another computer with a different burner, still gives a copy with skips, but the skips are in different locations.
    This was the case with Road Trips Fall 77 + bonus disc (which I only got a few years ago). I had to copy the discs 5 times using 3 different computers and burners in order to get a single version on a music player that didn’t have skips.

    The only defective CD I ever got from Rhino was CD3 of 6-17-76, which Rhino acknowledged was defective and sent out defective replacements, then again sent out replacements which were fixed.

    If you store your CD’s in a hot car you should expect that they will eventually start to degrade. And the slot opening of car CD players can scuff up the disc. When I previously had a car with a CD player I made CD-R copies of my CD’s and stored the CD-R’s in the car.

    I put copies of all my GD releases on a music player and don’t continue spinning the CD’s once a good copy is on the music player. The GD releases are then stored in crates, protected from dust and dog drool.

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WHAT'S INSIDE:
Five complete, previously unreleased performances on 17CDs
Des Moines, IA 5/13/73
Santa Barbara, CA 5/20/73
San Francisco, CA 5/26/73
Washington, D.C. 6/9/73
Washington, D.C. 6/10/73
Recorded by Kidd Candelario, Betty Cantor-Jackson, and Owsley Stanley
Newly restored and speed-corrected audio by Plangent Processes
Mastered by Jeffrey Norman
Liners featuring notes from Canadian author, Ray Robertson, The Owsley Stanley Foundation, and Legacy Manager and Audio Archivist, David Lemieux
Art and Design by GRAMMY® Award-winning Art Director, Masaki Koike
Custom-dyed Tenugui and an exclusive poster featuring an illustration by Mary Ann Mayer
 
Limited Edition Individually Numbered To 10,000 
Exclusively At Dead.net
 
"There’s the simple fact that the band members were old enough and experienced enough by now to be virtuosos on their instruments (what other group—rock or jazz or any other kind of music—could boast a trio of spectacularly singular talents such as Garcia, Lesh, and Weir?) but were still young enough to want to play and play and play some more, the happy, itchy inclination of youth. As a few of the shows in the Here Comes Sunshine boxed set attest, it wasn’t unusual for a 1973 concert to exceed four hours. And within the shows themselves, there are nearly nightly examples of hour-long orgies of tune-linked songcraft and juicy jamming." - Ray Robertson, HERE COMES SUNSHINE 1973 Liners
 
8 years in and the Grateful Dead are a little bit of everything to everyone. They are putting up textures and tones of rock, of jazz, of country, with set-morphing vibes and long stretches of improvisations that are completely keyed into the sum of their parts. Keith Godchaux is here with his cascading notes. Donna Jean too. Both finding their footing and keeping things steady in the wake of Pigpen's unfillable gap. The spring of 1973 feels transformative for the Dead - no more so than the May and early June shows, complementary yet remarkably different, soon-to-be cornerstones of everyone's tape collections, and now, 50 years later, set to be part of the band's official canon.
 
HERE COMES SUNSHINE 1973 is a limited-edition, 17CD boxed set with five previously unreleased, highly sought-after Dead shows, including: Iowa State Fairgrounds, Des Moines, IA (5/13/73), Campus Stadium, UCSB, Santa Barbara, CA (5/20/73), Kezar Stadium, San Francisco, CA (5/26/73), and Robert F. Kennedy Memorial Stadium, Washington, D.C. (6/9/73) and (6/10/73).
 
During the spring, the band road-tested most of the songs they would record that summer for WAKE OF THE FLOOD – their first studio album in three years – including early live versions of “Mississippi Half-Step Toodeloo,” “Row Jimmy,” “Stella Blue,” “Eyes Of The World,” and, the set’s namesake, “Here Comes Sunshine.” Also tucked into the collection are songs destined for the Dead’s 1974 studio album, FROM THE MARS HOTEL – “China Doll,” “Loose Lucy,” and “Wave That Flag,” a precursor to “U.S. Blues.”
 
The new repertoire slipped neatly into the fluid setlists alongside songs honed on the 1972 European tour (“Jack Straw,” “Tennessee Jed,” “Brown-Eyed Women”), Chuck Berry perennials (“Promised Land,” “Around And Around”), classic country (“Big River,” “The Race Is On”), and incredible jam sequences: “He’s Gone”> “Truckin’”> “The Other One”> “Eyes Of The World.”
 
Due June 30th, the individually-numbered, limited-edition 17CD set features vibrant graphics and custom-designed folios by GRAMMY® Award-winning Art Director Masaki Koike, a custom-dyed Tenugui and an exclusive poster featuring an illustration by Mary Ann Mayer, and liner notes by Canadian author Ray Robertson, The Owsley Stanley Foundation, and David Lemieux. And, of course, it features newly restored and speed-corrected audio by Plangent Processes, mastered by Jeffrey Norman.
 
Digital convert? We've got you covered too. On the very same day you can collect your hi-definition download.

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Submitted by Mr. Ones on Fri, 07/07/2023 - 07:06

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May I suggest to you (and everyone else) a quick jaunt through the 30 trips box set?? I went with parts of the first 6 shows last night and had a fantastic time doing it!!
Of course, West Coast Pop Art Experimental band is a good one too.
Waiting for my box, but I got TONS o' stuff to listen to, including but not limited to: New Zappa, 2 Alice Cooper re-issues, 100 Bill Frisell cds, etc. etc.

Life is good, Music is the BEST!!

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Submitted by JeffSmith on Fri, 07/07/2023 - 08:53

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Looks like my HCS Box will be "available for pickup" at the P.O. tomorrow. It may be Monday, but as soon as I can get back into town, I'll scan & correct Masaki Koike's artwork, and post a linque.

Just catching up here – was in Boulder for D&Co's monster shows – their best yet IMHO. I totally get that Dead & Company aren't the Grateful Dead, and neither are they a cover band. Going to miss them and the tribe next summer unless some of the players morph into something new, different and Dead which they just might... Didn't realize Oroborous, BlueCrow, NiteCat, GratefulHan and others were in Boulder. Wish we could have hooked up at Folsom or Shakedown.

Sorry to keep reading tales of woe from folks still waiting on and having probs with this box not to mention unexpected VATs, fees and shipping hassles. Hope your boxes show up and/or are made whole soon. Glad to see reviews of the music starting to pop up!

And don't give up on Seastones Proudfoot – you're not the only fan around here! Onward.

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Submitted by djmac4289 on Fri, 07/07/2023 - 09:24

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I received an email indicating I would receive new Apple lossless by Wednesday.

Hopefully that does the trick and it appears different folks are getting different timetables for this, but bottom line is they are paying attention now and it is worth it to email Rhino about any problems.

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Submitted by Gary Farseer on Fri, 07/07/2023 - 09:36

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finally got here...open later today. shipping box in great shape.

Been wearing out PNWbox in anticipation.

More soon...didn't have to contact dead/rhino, and didn't get a shipping email.

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Submitted by thetweaker on Fri, 07/07/2023 - 09:42

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FYI, I finished extracting all 5 shows and
found a few more dropouts

RFK Stadium, Washington, DC (6/9/73)
18_Truckin (8:57 silence > 12:32 END)

RFK Stadium, Washington, DC (6/10/73)
02_Beat_It_on_Down_the_Line (0:38 silence > 2:10)
26_Promised_Land (1:08 silence > 1:09)

Let's wait and see if they fix them. Hard to believe this wasn't analyzed before
making them available.

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Submitted by rasta5ziggy on Fri, 07/07/2023 - 10:19

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8574 just arrived in Indy.....the only discs that were loose were the first discs in every show. Everything else nice and secure. Have not played any yet, and I am one of those that never looks at the setlists before playing. This is the first boxset I have ordered as most don't fit my budget, but I could not pass on this, as this was the year of my first show....October 1973, Indiana State Fairgrounds. I am going to let my twin 3 year old 2nd cousins use the artwork enclosure for coloring. I'm excited to see what they create. Really looking forward to hearing the Iowa show.

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Submitted by Elbow49 on Fri, 07/07/2023 - 10:51

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How do you test for dropouts?

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Submitted by frankparry on Fri, 07/07/2023 - 11:06

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Daverock and other U.K. heads - did Royal Mail email you about the import charges or leave a card about it? I haven’t heard or seen anything yet here in Nottingham

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Submitted by sjbutler on Fri, 07/07/2023 - 11:26

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I too had spots of glue cemented on to a few discs (namely the first two of 6/10). I was able to get it off of one of the discs, but it had eaten away at the plastic surface so I didn’t even bother trying to get it off of the other one. I just submitted a request for replacement with Warner customer service. There was significant scuffing on one of those two discs, too. The rest of the discs in the box looked ok. I’ve had to get multiple discs replaced from both the Listen to the River and In & Out of the Garden (along with numerous Dave’s Picks). Warner has come through for me each time, so I’m hopeful that these will get replaced, too. Still, it is a hassle to have to deal with this every damn time.

While the packaging of these boxes is gorgeous, cardboard is just NOT a good medium in which to house what should be treated with the care and respect that these deserve. And the quality control at wherever these get pressed and packaged is godawful. Even DaPs that come in plastic trays are often riddled with scuffs and scratches. In over 30 years of buying CDs, Dead releases are the only ones that I ever encounter this on.

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Submitted by Colin Gould on Fri, 07/07/2023 - 12:41

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Frank
If you have the USPS alternate tracking number then you can use the parcelforce tracker to find it. If it is being held then you can either wait for their letter requesting payment to turn up or use their contact number to get the 17 digit code that you can then enter into their website to pay the duty. My copy was delivered today. One of the discs was loose but otherwise they are visually OK. I’m part way through the second disc of the first show and so far so good. I’m looking forward to hearing the rest.

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Submitted by TripsMac on Fri, 07/07/2023 - 13:28

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I would definitely contact them. They need to know about all of this nonsense because it's totally unacceptable and if they receive enough complaints maybe they'll actually start putting out quality materials.

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Submitted by daverock on Fri, 07/07/2023 - 14:29

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Frank - I got a letter from Parcel Force Worldwide yesterday, informing me of the money owed to them. The office it came from was Norwich, the nearest city to Lowestoft, where I am.

Mr Ones - that's a good idea going through some of those 30 Trips shows. Those first 6 shows are the ones I have played the most, by some distance. I might have to leave it a while though. Inspired by our friends on Pick of the Day, I cracked open the 78 box earlier today, to play 7/1/78. Having played that, I found 7/3/78 calling my name.
On Monday I will be joining the chorus singing about this 73 box. Hopefully not another post all about scuffed discs etc-but if that's what arrives, I guess that's what I will be putting out. Fingers crossed!

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Submitted by frankparry on Fri, 07/07/2023 - 14:52

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Thanks Colin and Daverock. Guess I’ll wait and hope!

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Submitted by Eyes_73 on Fri, 07/07/2023 - 15:12

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8466 has arrived and for the most all intact. There were a few cd's with no tracking and the other discs to be off by 1.

So far no other issues ripping them.

However, I will note I was super nervous since I never received an e-mail confirmation or shipping notice. I only had my CC charge to go on.

I do wonder how this would have played out if I never received it.

Rock on!

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Fri, 07/07/2023 - 19:56

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....is so damn good. Thank you. Awesome liner notes from Blair Jackson. Did John Cutler record this? All it says is "original recordings produced by..."
Nonetheless. I need more early '80's JGB.

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Submitted by Deadheadbrewer on Fri, 07/07/2023 - 22:52

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Ended up coming through UPS, I guess because I ordered the HCS coffee mug as well? I'll open it up tomorrow morning while sipping coffee from the mug . . .

Be kind, rewind . . .

Since someone was asking for some comments on the music I’ll try. I’ve only heard the Des Moines show so far. On a first listen the first three CDs made me think this was a very good ‘73 show, a little wonky to begin, but I’m not looking for perfection. Then I put the final cd on. Oh my. This lifted the show to a new height. I particularly liked TOO into Eyes. This is a fantastic show worth the price on its own. Now on to the rest.

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Submitted by wilfredtjones on Sat, 07/08/2023 - 08:19

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Light scratches and glue, Boo!
1973 Grateful Dead, Yay!
Currently ripping and inspecting...
2 discs jostled despite what I'm certain was tremendous care by UPS/USPS...

Let's make it a Grateful Day all! :-)¯ :-) :-)¯

P.S. HEY NOW PTB SEND DaP 47 EARLY PLEASE!!

-edit- Solid picture on P. 25 of the main book. To come in a helmet is to come prepared... :-)

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Submitted by rasta5ziggy on Sat, 07/08/2023 - 14:12

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Just finished my first-ever taste of IA from the "73 HC Boxset......UNBELIEVABLE !!!....... I played Box of Rain twice.......IA got some great shows, as did Indy. No problems on any disc.....additionally, maybe I've been fortunate, but I've never had ANY issues with any of my DaP's releases......... Ready for the next show.....going by dates in the set, so I am going to wait until after Svengoolie tonight.

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Submitted by Charlie3 on Sat, 07/08/2023 - 15:22

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Browsing through recent posts from the last few days and saw Daverock's reference to the Written in Their Soul box set. I saw that and it does look interesting.

If you have not already checked it out, take a look at Soul'd Out: The Complete Wattstax Collection. 12 CD's with everything from the August 20, 1972 Wattstax concert and several associated live recordings from the Summit Club in September 1972. Chock full of fantastic live soul, all of the commentary in between songs, Jesse Jacksons "I am somebody" speech, some early live Richard Pryor, and a pretty cool hardcover book.

You can also get a version with just the 6 discs comprising the Wattstax concert, and a single disc complilation of highlights. But honestly, the full set is well worth the extra cost for the associated recordings. If you dig Stax you will dig the full collection. Fantastic live sets by Isaac Hayes, the Staples Singers, Albert King, the Bar-Kays and others at Wattstax, and some hot sets at the Summit Club from Johnnie Taylor, Sons of Slum backing the Emotions, and Little Milton. A whole lot of killer live soul.

Still waiting for the HCS box.

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Submitted by Born Cross Eye… on Sat, 07/08/2023 - 15:28

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Arrived in my "mailbox" on Friday, on the initial inspection was a small indent on the upper right front corner, no big deal after I unwrapped the cellophane shrinkwrap and slid the outer blue "collar" off and back on several times. Only one disc was out of its protective pocket, disc 1 of 5/13/73, all the rest are in perfect condition.

The first show I played was 6/10/73 - was my first rock concert and my first Grateful Dead show. It sounds much better than my previous tapes and CD-Rs of this show.

On page 25 of the essay booklet in the Jonathan David Sabin photo, if I recall correctly, I believe I am in this photo, although obscured. I remember seeing the guy standing on the sound reinforcement tower scaffolding with the white tee shirt. I remember the guy sitting in our row of seats not wearing a shirt and a short beard. I am hidden behind the shirt. I can see my cousin who was a student at American University at the time, making this box set a really valuable time tunnel for me. By the way, I was a mere 16-year-old teen who was escorted into this event.
I first heard Truckin' on the radio back in early 1971 and that was the bus. Although the first time I heard Truckin', I thought it was a new Steppenwolf song as I thought session musician Howard Wales sounded like Goldy McJohn at the time.
A great big thank you to Dave Lemieux, Mark Pinkus, Ivette & Doran, and whoever had the final say to include the aforementioned photograph.

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Submitted by bluecrow on Sat, 07/08/2023 - 15:43

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Couldn't be patient any longer so went to the big city to get 91% isopropanol aka 91% isopropyl alcohol. Worked like a charm on the glue - took 2 or 3 quick attempts with a couple/few drops each time and a soft cloth to remove all residue and the cleaned discs look "min"t. Yay, very much Yay! Funny thing was, one of the specklets is not glue (the one the I discovered on Disc 1 of Iowa) - it had a slightly different/lighter appearance, maybe its acrylic or maybe its a true imperfection on the playing surface, whatever it is it, is totally impervious to the isopropanol. It was the first one I tried and I thought "this is a failure" but when I tried the others they cleaned right off. So not all spots are necessarily "glue".

Like I said, all discs "ripped" but there were sonic anomalies where the spots are. With Iowa Disc 4 the glue speck was in Sugar Magnolia and the initial ripped copy had a ~10 second gap, and funnily, after the track was "finished", the last ~10 seconds of the track were played again. Just played the cleaned CD and play through was clean like I hoped.

Anybody who got a defective/damaged CD should feel free to ask for a replacement no questions. I'm programmed to try to fix something if it can be fixed. Definitely will be asking for a replacement of the Iowa Disc 1 with the mystery substance/imperfection and in my reach out I'll detail every disc that had an issue. Before that I need to listen to all the ripped tracks to make sure there's nothing else lurking that I missed, as was the case with that Disc 1. At this point I just have to shake my head at the whole spectrum of ongoing issues with these releases. The only other time I had a glue issue was way back with the Wall of Sound Road Trips, Disc 1, a big ole smear of it on Playing in the Band. Didn't know how to clean it and asked for a replacement copy and that one also had Disc 1 glue but somehow I managed to still make it play (not sure how).

DJMAC (and other ALAC folks) - glad to hear that help is on the way!

R5Z - Yeah IOWA!! I fell in love with the jam sequence ca. winter 2010 as it was in regular rotation for a repeated night time red rock desert commute back and forth to Escalant. So awesome to have this show released and in this dream of a box set no less. I found myself streaming part of that '73 Indy show yesterday afternoon. Another great Fall '73 show. Hadn't realized they did a sweet Playing sandwich around Mississippi 1/2 Step and Big River.

Jeff Smith - Yeah Boulder was awesome!! So glad you made it. Now I'm wishing I was at the Gorge.

Charlie3 - funny that you should mention that WattStax concert - recently came across the film footage of Rufus Thomas performing Funky Chicken and my jaw dropped. What an awesome rave up it is and the whole crowd scene is glorious. It had me looking into that WattStax, never had heard of it.

....my first rock concert was Iron Maidens Powerslave tour. Blew my 15 year old mind. I was also escorted there by my high school friends mom, who told us when she dropped us off, "be safe and have fun!" It was the first concert for both of us and we abided by her wishes. We said to ourselves, "We need more concerts!" after that show.
And 55 year old me still agrees.
You toob that Powerslave tour. Great one to pop ones cherry at.
Marco and I still go to shows. He went all in. Mtheoryaudio on IG. That's him. Heavy metal to the end.

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Submitted by rasta5ziggy on Sat, 07/08/2023 - 16:49

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Remember that complaints on issues are probably .0001% of the 10% of sales..........it's unfortunate when it happens but remember that it all gets worked out....enjoy the HCSS Boxset........it's da bomb!!!

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Submitted by alvarhanso on Sat, 07/08/2023 - 18:57

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8 out of 17 discs will need replacement. Was attempting to film an unboxing and instead filmed the state of the discs immediately out of the box. I was able to get everything ripped, no chance to listen to all 19 hrs 46 min to see if it ripped correctly. I did notice issues ripping a few disc's. Reinserted them, tried again, seemed to work. Will find out in days ahead if any skips or other issues. I think I still have a couple skips on June 76 box to correct on one show, come to think of it.

Oh, and a complaint I haven't seen here or on Steve Hoffman is that my poster was bent. They didn't make it flush, and the fold is in the middle of the poster. It sucks because there are only two "extras" in this box and one of them was deformed by poor quality control. And just under half the discs. Luckily, had some alcohol wipes from work for the few glue blobs. Just glad I have a video I'm going to include in my request for replacements, but disappointed my unboxing of Here Comes Sunshine turned into a sad Samba in the Rain instead. So far, through one disc of Des Moines, the sound is good. Not sure I'd go as gaga over it as I have seen, but also haven't hit the Betty portion.

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Submitted by deadmike on Sat, 07/08/2023 - 22:11

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It arrived at the Post Office on Friday the 7th but I have only listened to the first CD from 5-13 this far. It played okey all the way through.

Normally it takes a while before I listen to all boxes all through because I don't fancy being forced to do it right away. Some boxes from the past are actually still unopened because I listen to a lot of other music and don't like to be forced to listen to that music either as fast as I can. Besides these boxes all are in limited edition and I prefer to purchase them when they are made available here on Dead net rather than buying them from eBay-"sharks" to "fantasy prices".

Now, 1973 is among my favorite Grateful Dead years, so I will go through this box "pretty fast". If some CD's are malfunctions then I do hope they will be replaced without having to send the entire box set back to California.
I have no complaints so far on the box set as a whole visually speaking, except maybe that some CD's are not attached to the actual covers. But I don't think those CD's have been sliding around in the mail. I found the inside stuff pretty tight packed after all.

Well, so far I feel good about the whole thing. Okey, so the "book" is only twenty-six pages but that doesn't matter to me. I seldom find time to read the thicker books that come with the box sets, so twenty-six pages are good to me unless the books are made up of mostly pictures.

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Update! I had to know ... fourteen of seventeen CD's was read properly by my CD-player and three was read after some searching by the player. All seventeen started properly on track 1 though. This is all I can do for the moment. Hopefully they all will play through in a normal way. We'll see.

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Submitted by Dennis on Sun, 07/09/2023 - 06:11

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I agree on the stax box,,,, looks GREAT. I've been holding off, because of price. I've spent a lot of money on "stuff". Thought I'd try and hold off till Christmas and tell wife or son to get me a copy. Maybe get it before then? :-)

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Submitted by nuclearabbit on Sun, 07/09/2023 - 07:41

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I have no knowledge of how the manufacturing process for these sets work, but as someone who had no issues with my set (#4615), I'm curious if the edition numbers for the people with bad discs are close together.
Is there anyone who had bad discs within 100 numbers of mine?

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Submitted by Colin Gould on Sun, 07/09/2023 - 10:23

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I can’t comment on the box, but the music is very good especially when you consider that they are demo recordings. I have streamed the contents on Amazon music over several days and enjoyed it tremendously.

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Submitted by daverock on Sun, 07/09/2023 - 10:49

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I agree with Charlie -The Complete Wattstax Concert that came out earlier this year is great. A wide variety of music from the orchestral sweep of Dale Warren and his Orchestra, to Gospel to blues to funk... to Rufus Thomas. It's very much a recording of a cultural event, which means there are quite a lot of stage announcements and politicising going on. A continual emphasis, from those making such announcements,that this is an opportunity to show the world how responsible and well behaved and intelligent they all are. Rufus Thomas seems to have missed the point of all this, turning up in hotpants, doing the Funky Chicken. He encourages everybody to leave their seats and get on down, which they appear to do with enthusiasm. In fact, most of the 5th cd is given over to people on the stage trying to get everybody to go back to their seats.
Incidentally, I got the 6 cd version, which I believe features all the music played at the original concert, but is missing the Summit recordings.I got a separate copy of Johnnie Taylor At The Summit, which came out in 2007 minus a track.

Another good Craft Box set of Southern Soul is "The Spirit of Memphis 1962-1976" by Isaac Hayes. The 1st cd features the very well known tracks he produced. The 2nd his Volt and Enterprise singles and the 3rd cover versions, including a live set from 10/1/72. The 4th cd is amazing - called Jam Master it features extended jams from live gigs in the 70s. The last two tracks on this are an 18 minute "Groove-A-Thon" followed by a 33minute "Do Your Thing". Mind bogglingly brilliant.

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Submitted by bluecrow on Sun, 07/09/2023 - 12:02

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That Funky Chicken and the dancing frenzy it kicks off absolutely rules. Love it. And no, I don't think for a second Rufus Thomas missed "the point". Pretty clear that the folks wanted to dance!

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Submitted by daverock on Sun, 07/09/2023 - 14:21

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Bluecrow - I wasn't having a go at Rufus Thomas - his set is a highlight of the day for me too. Just a gentle pop at the organisers - Jesse Jackson and his cronies - who do seem to be stressing the educational importance of the day at the expense of stirring up some action. I can understand why....but still, there's an awful lot of telling people to get off the grass.

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My avatar is, currently, the cover of a newly released boxset ‘A Supreme Love’ by Alan Skidmore, a British sax player. It’s a retrospective 6 cd set of music between 1961 - 2019. As the title suggests he was very influenced by John Coltrane. I haven’t played it yet because it only arrived yesterday and the GD boxset still has my attention. Among the many albums that he played on (not represented here) was the Bluesbreakers ‘Beano’ album.

I do have a few albums by/with Peter Brötzmann, a remarkable free player. Everyone should hear ‘Machine Gun’ at least once.

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Submitted by bluecrow on Sun, 07/09/2023 - 17:30

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Daverock, my apology for the misunderstanding! The groove the band is laying down behind him is crazy tight and crackling with energy - that organ, the congas, the horns - Holy Mother of Funky Goodness! Would have loved to see that groove stretched out way longer. The whole thing fills me with joy.

You raise your left arm up
And your right arm too
Let me tell you
Just what to do
Flap your wings
Feet start kicking
Now you doing
You doing the funky chicken

Rumor has it bluecrow was flapping his wings and kicking his feet in Boulder!

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Submitted by thismikebenz on Sun, 07/09/2023 - 17:33

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My HCS box arrived in good condition. I was able to rip all the discs.

With each DaP and boxed set I order, I see more reports of people with damaged discs. I have been lucky so far that I have only had to replace one disc one time a few years ago. Mary E. helped me sort that out.

I am surprised that they can't get the downloads working on this set.

I was glad to see D&C in walking distance from our home here in Boulder. My wife had to talk me into it though. After all those years of Furthur, and after having seen the Wolf Pack at Radio City, I was a little skeptical. I look forward to whatever any of the boys do next.

Thank you in advance JeffSmith for the artwork scans.

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Submitted by onthebussince77 on Mon, 07/10/2023 - 01:07

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After overestimating the demand for the box the past two years they have now done the opposite. I wonder if there is any regret that they didn't produce a few thousand more. While the downloads are a great option, I think there are enough fans of physical releases to warrant an unnumbered version in a slipcase as they did with GET SHOWN THE LIGHT.

Bluecrow- no problem at all. There's a great Rufus Thomas cd available ffrom this era, with the above name, that came out in the short lived Stax remasters series. That series also has a great sounding "Born Under A Bad Sign" - with bonus tracks, by Albert King.
"Machine Gun" by Peter Brotzmann is a blitz of a track. The cd I have got has that track, followed by another 17 minute version. So you can listen to over 32 minutes of it one go. If you're hard enough.

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Submitted by krell1349 on Mon, 07/10/2023 - 06:01

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Good day. Box 4079 arrived. Lowest number yet of any box set. Has anyone posted the cover art scans? I can't seem to find them in the thread. Much appreciated.

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Submitted by JeffSmith on Mon, 07/10/2023 - 06:19

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Hey Krell – As soon as I finish my first cup, I'm heading into town for my HCS box. I may be able to get a linque to scans up later today – if not, first thing tomorrow. Looking forward to listening while I scan. Onward.

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Submitted by Doingtheneedful on Mon, 07/10/2023 - 07:05

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Has anyone else ordered and received spin-off merch related to this release? In particular the "drape"... I've checked my billing which is presented in just about the most unintuitive format possible, and it's definitely paid for. However it still shows as "pre-order", whereas box 4098 arrived in country on Thursday last week. (UK)

In the meantime, as always, thanks to the gang who put this package together. My landlady handed it over to my wife in person this am. She said "I know this is one of his super special packages and I didn't just want to to leave it on the step!" Good person right there! We live on their land behind locked gates and she gets all of our mail and obviously has sussed that GD time is Special time! :-)

Given up on digital downloads. Never had one that worked first time. The worst - the 50 Anniversary American Beauty which took me two months to get the hi-res I ordered... standard 44.1 was what was delivered as hi-res first time round.

Can't understand why they don't outsource this to a company THAT KNOWS WHAT IT'S DOING...

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Submitted by daverock on Mon, 07/10/2023 - 10:38

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The fabled box was delivered this morning, and I am well pleased. I opened it with a bit of trepidation, and noticed that the first cd in the first packet had come loose. But it seemed free of blemishes. The others all looked firmly wedged in their slots, and I think I'll leave them there till I prise them out to listen. This is the same for all the shows, the first cd is loose but seemingly scratch free and the others are all wedged in. Hopefully it will be like those Road Trips cds. I had to get some of those out with a knife the were packed in so tightly - but they all played alright.

I have just played the first cd from Iowa 5/13/73, and I really like the sound. Also the way the band are so integrated - each one of equal importance and working together to find the way forward. Quite different from the three 1978 shows that I played at the weekend, which at times sounded a bit like a great lead guitarist fronting a competent band. They sound as though they are all in it together here. Great strat tone from Jerry.
As no one has come out and said this first cd is the best of the box, I think I have got some great music ahead of me this week.

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