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    WHAT'S INSIDE:
    Five complete, previously unreleased performances on 17CDs
    Des Moines, IA 5/13/73
    Santa Barbara, CA 5/20/73
    San Francisco, CA 5/26/73
    Washington, D.C. 6/9/73
    Washington, D.C. 6/10/73
    Recorded by Kidd Candelario, Betty Cantor-Jackson, and Owsley Stanley
    Newly restored and speed-corrected audio by Plangent Processes
    Mastered by Jeffrey Norman
    Liners featuring notes from Canadian author, Ray Robertson, The Owsley Stanley Foundation, and Legacy Manager and Audio Archivist, David Lemieux
    Art and Design by GRAMMY® Award-winning Art Director, Masaki Koike
    Custom-dyed Tenugui and an exclusive poster featuring an illustration by Mary Ann Mayer
     
    Limited Edition Individually Numbered To 10,000 
    Exclusively At Dead.net

     
    "There’s the simple fact that the band members were old enough and experienced enough by now to be virtuosos on their instruments (what other group—rock or jazz or any other kind of music—could boast a trio of spectacularly singular talents such as Garcia, Lesh, and Weir?) but were still young enough to want to play and play and play some more, the happy, itchy inclination of youth. As a few of the shows in the Here Comes Sunshine boxed set attest, it wasn’t unusual for a 1973 concert to exceed four hours. And within the shows themselves, there are nearly nightly examples of hour-long orgies of tune-linked songcraft and juicy jamming." - Ray Robertson, HERE COMES SUNSHINE 1973 Liners
     
    8 years in and the Grateful Dead are a little bit of everything to everyone. They are putting up textures and tones of rock, of jazz, of country, with set-morphing vibes and long stretches of improvisations that are completely keyed into the sum of their parts. Keith Godchaux is here with his cascading notes. Donna Jean too. Both finding their footing and keeping things steady in the wake of Pigpen's unfillable gap. The spring of 1973 feels transformative for the Dead - no more so than the May and early June shows, complementary yet remarkably different, soon-to-be cornerstones of everyone's tape collections, and now, 50 years later, set to be part of the band's official canon.
     
    HERE COMES SUNSHINE 1973 is a limited-edition, 17CD boxed set with five previously unreleased, highly sought-after Dead shows, including: Iowa State Fairgrounds, Des Moines, IA (5/13/73), Campus Stadium, UCSB, Santa Barbara, CA (5/20/73), Kezar Stadium, San Francisco, CA (5/26/73), and Robert F. Kennedy Memorial Stadium, Washington, D.C. (6/9/73) and (6/10/73).
     
    During the spring, the band road-tested most of the songs they would record that summer for WAKE OF THE FLOOD – their first studio album in three years – including early live versions of “Mississippi Half-Step Toodeloo,” “Row Jimmy,” “Stella Blue,” “Eyes Of The World,” and, the set’s namesake, “Here Comes Sunshine.” Also tucked into the collection are songs destined for the Dead’s 1974 studio album, FROM THE MARS HOTEL – “China Doll,” “Loose Lucy,” and “Wave That Flag,” a precursor to “U.S. Blues.”
     
    The new repertoire slipped neatly into the fluid setlists alongside songs honed on the 1972 European tour (“Jack Straw,” “Tennessee Jed,” “Brown-Eyed Women”), Chuck Berry perennials (“Promised Land,” “Around And Around”), classic country (“Big River,” “The Race Is On”), and incredible jam sequences: “He’s Gone”> “Truckin’”> “The Other One”> “Eyes Of The World.”
     
    Due June 30th, the individually-numbered, limited-edition 17CD set features vibrant graphics and custom-designed folios by GRAMMY® Award-winning Art Director Masaki Koike, a custom-dyed Tenugui and an exclusive poster featuring an illustration by Mary Ann Mayer, and liner notes by Canadian author Ray Robertson, The Owsley Stanley Foundation, and David Lemieux. And, of course, it features newly restored and speed-corrected audio by Plangent Processes, mastered by Jeffrey Norman.
     
    Digital convert? We've got you covered too. On the very same day you can collect your hi-definition download.

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  • 1stshow70878
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    More or less decided to leave the analog system alone.
    Likely go to a separate 5.1 A/V receiver dedicated to some new old speakers.
    There is great stuff available for next to nothing as folks upgrade their systems.
    Have some very reliable vendor/techs I trust too.
    Esta todo bien.
    Cheers and thanks again

  • Oroborous
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    Let me know what gear your trying to integrate and I can look it up and make suggestions if you like?

  • 1stshow70878
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    That discussion helped me figure some things out too.
    Vaguely thinking about having the TV sound through the big system.
    You are The Man on this subject. Don't need an electrician.
    Cheers and thanks!

  • Oroborous
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    Hey amigo,
    Sorry for being so tardy, been busier than a one legged man in an ass kicking contest.
    I did look up your amp and it’s an integrated analog only unit. The “integrated”means it’s has both the pre amp section, and the power amp section all in one box. From looking at the back of the unit from a photo of one for sale, it appears it’s analog only. Sorry I just haven’t had time to look up specs etc.
    I’m wondering now what make and model tv you have? I’m guessing they were trying to back feed the audio from the tv to your integrated amp. Depending on years and models etc, that could be via an analog out of the tv, or optical, which is a digital connection. Like most things, to maximize profits, analog connections are often going away…

    Since your amp is all analog, it does not have a a digital section or DAC (digital to analog converter) so i would think it would have to be the former: your amp cannot connect directly to a digital source, unless it has its own DAC, which is what your CD player is doing. This is why they commented on age of the unit, not because it’s no longer usable!

    The tech probably just had to adjust some audio settings in the TV in order to output analog audio back to your amp.
    I’m not sure why they didn’t just follow suite with your cable box and Blu-ray player and run analog out of those units and into your amp like your CD player? Perhaps sync/delay issues? Sometimes the audio and video can get slightly out of sync when utilizing different paths depending on electronics?
    The switching would be an extra step but the sound would probably be better, (as long as no sync issues) though perhaps your cable or Sat box doesn’t have any analog outs. It’s unfortunately becoming more common to only have an HDMI video output?
    A increasingly more common approach to a basic TV set up is to run your sources into the tv via HDMI, and back feed audio via ARC (audio return channel via HDMI) but that requires a tv and receiver or integrated amp that supports it. This is mostly for cost and convenience so you only have to switch TV inputs and have all the video audio on one input channel of your amp. But I could walk you through wiring your video source audio direct to your amp if your interested, and depending on what kind of outputs your sources have: HDMI only or with something else i.e., optical, coax, or analog etc.
    To find out, just look at the back of your Cable or Sat box and your Blu-ray player: outputs should be labeled, but if not, you can tell by looking. RCA analog connections are what’s on the back of your integrated amp. If you see some that look like these your all set. If besides HDMI there is only optical or coax, your out of luck (digital coax is usually an orange color, at least in the states? Analog RCA are usually Red for right, and white for left). Many will only have HDMI.

    The good news is I don’t see any reason why you need to upgrade your amp if you like it and don’t want to!
    Perhaps the next best upgrade you could make if you kept the amp, would be to get an asynchronous DAC.
    That way you could utilize all your digital connections on your various digital sources, routing them into the DAC for conversion, with just one analog out of the DAC to your amp. You’d leave the amp on the same input (except turntable which being analog already would still go to directly the amps phono stage (though you could upgrade to a separate one of those also). You would do the switching of sources on the DAC instead of the amp.
    But you don’t have to do this, it would just be a nice upgrade as the DAC chip sets in most things are cheap garbage, especially TVs!! Your CD players DAC is probably at least decent?
    Right now, it sounds like your video sources are being converted in your tv, no bueno!
    The DACs they use in TVs and computers, and most lower cost electronics cost less than a dollar, a good separate DAC can range from a hundred dollars up to a hundred grand, so obviously something made to do a specific job should be an improvement over doing it the cheapest way possible…
    Another option if you do think about replacing the amp is to get a new integrated amp with digital inputs, though they might not do HDMI. Some now are utilizing the ARC technology I mentioned above. A good integrated should have a decent DAC so you could use whatever digital output your tv has to back feed from tv to the DAC, or run separate audio from the source to the DAC, and video to the tv, leaving the cheap tv electronics out of the audio chain.

    Similar, and most convenient would be a new AVR or Audio Video receiver. These usually have HDMI and analog inputs so you can run all your video sources into it with one HDMI video out to your Telly. You could run your CD digital or analog to it depending on the AVRs capabilities and preferences. You would have to make sure it has the correct phono stage for your turntable, or get a separate phono stage. AVRs, unless super high end, are usually not going to have as good components/electronics as a good integrated amp, or perhaps even a good DAC with your existing amp? Their designed for switching, convenience, a Jack of all trades but master of none if you will.
    Also, their more for surround sound etc, and I believe you have 2 channel so it would probably be money better spent on gear tailored more for your needs…but it’s a viable option…

    LOL, Yes, I wish I did live down the street, after I tweeked your system, we could go have a pint and play verbal tennis about our favorite bands etc. AND, I have a pre-pro that’d I could sell ya cheap that would probably solve your issues, Dooaahh!

    Still not quite sure what they ment about your amp effecting your CDs/player? It makes no sense?
    I have seen units that might have some brief latency between the audio and display, but that has nothing to do with what it’s connected to. I’m not sure of any audio gear that depends on everything in the chain “talking” to each other, only HDMI. Though not common there theoretically could be an all HDMI audio chain, but even then I’m not sure there’d be the same “handshake” issues that occur with HDMI video?

    Ok, sorry, that’s too much at once I suspect?
    Get me more intel and I’ll follow up with you.
    - what make/model TV do you have!
    - list all your video sources?
    - what kind of outputs does your Cable or Sat box, or other video sources have? (Please see above for instructions)
    - what is more important to you, maximizing audio, or convenience and ease of operations?

    I hope to have at least a little time this WE so if you can get back to me I might be able to figure more out.

    Sorry to rest for going on, hey, once a geek…
    besides, y’all can perhaps learn something from my tutorials that will help you maximize your GOGD audio nirvana!
    Hey, Who wouldn’t want to experience the most of all the plangent aural ecstasy lovingly provided by the likes of Norman and Glasser ; )

  • SPACEBROTHER
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    So far all of the CDs I've purchased since the 1980s still work fine. I rip all mine and keep them stored. Some discs I bring to play in the car, but never the limited edition ones.

  • daverock
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    Hey Oro-sorry it's taken me a while to respond to your post. This is where I show my ignorance - more than usual. I don't actually know what kind of cables I've got. When I bought my cd player, a guy from the shop came to set it up for me, and he brought these cables with him.
    This cd player, it was 2019 when I got it, is a Rega Saturn - R. The amplifier, which I got about 1997 has "Isobel 50 W solid state integrated amplifier" printed on the top.
    I bought the speakers in 1997 too. I can't remember what make they are!
    My record player is a pro ject, and I got that about 2018.

    So, a very random approach. Both the cd player and the records sound great to me though. The last Dead I played was from the PNW box - 5/17/74. A really sparkling sound-especially that of Jerry and Keith.

    I got the idea that my amplifier might not be a bit antiquated when I bought an Oled telly and blu ray player last year. For some reason, I couldn't get the sound to come out of my speakers, despite the fact that it was wired up to do so. Three people came out from the shop - and the last one managed to get it to work. I don't know what he did, but he said that because the amp was made in a way that they no longer make 'em, it couldn't pick up the signal from the tv/blu ray. He tinkered about with it ( getting a it technical here) and hey presto! Sound!

    The other thing is, when I listen to a cd - say track 3, the display panel still shows track 2 until a few seconds after track3 has started playing. This engineer who sorted it out told me that the delay was due to the amp being as old and different as it is, and that it took time to pick up the signal from the cd player. I really don't know whether what he said was correct or not.

    It's a pity you don't live down the road, really, so you could pop in and have a look. What do you mean "thank God for small mercies"!

  • Oroborous
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    I always rip them to my server immediately out of the package, then put them back and on the shelf.
    I used to also make a CD back up copy, but I’ve not been lately.
    As far as I can recall, I’ve only had problems with the music only Boxilla.
    I had a Hellava time ripping some of those discs. I think I eventually got them all, but some took hours to rip.
    Considering what that box cost, it was a stressful unpleasant experience.

    DR: your amp shouldn’t be a problem. Sounds perhaps like a sales pitch?
    A good analog amplifier can last decades, and should have nothing to do with discs being troublesome.
    Speakers and amplifiers if well built, do not need to be upgraded unless you don’t like how they sound, or obviously if they break.
    All an amplifier does is take the final, processed signal if you will, which is always eventually analog, and which is very low level, and amplifies it so it can drive the speakers. It just takes a very low level signal, and makes it loud, that’s all.
    Now this is a separate amplifier I’m speaking of, if you have an “all in one”, or receiver, those have a pre amp and often a digital processor, along with an amplifier, all in one box.
    If so, they might be talking about the front end or pre amp/processing section, but the amplifier is still just an amp like described above, it’s just lives in the same box.
    I’m curious what kind of cable or connection you have with your CD player?
    Actually, I’m curious about your whole set up…

  • wilfredtjones
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    My older DaPs are physically peeling. For me it's the discs, not the player(s). YMMV

    Lesson: Check and Rip your discs immediately. -edit- And....Do NOT store them in a hot car...Slaps Head (thank God I followed my own ripping advice) :-) :-) :-)¯

  • daverock
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    Interesting messages about hi fi maintenance. I am a real luddite when it come to technology. One of my friends recently suggested I try switching it off and on at the mains. That's about my level, I'm afraid.

    Apart from one cd from a 1976 Daves Picks, all mine have played well. And the ones in boxes.The ones that don't play so well are ones I have had for a while, and they always seem to play on my very cheap portable player if not my hi fi. So it seems that it's the hi fi that is at fault.
    The worst experience has been a T.Rex box set. A lot of people complained about these discs on Amazon, but mine played alright. That was last year. This year none of them will play.

    My front room can be a bit dusty - I have an open, and unused fireplace not too far from my hi fi. I keep it well dusted and have even taken to putting an old tee shirt on the system to keep the gremlins out. I think for me that could be a problem - that and the age and mismatch of my amplifier with the new stuff. I said earlier it was 20 years old-nearer 27, when I think about it .

    Not only this - I now need a new stylus. The last time I got one, the guy from the shop came to my house to attach it. His assistant came first, and he couldn't do it - so the owner of the shop came out and fitted it. Don't know how I am going to get the darn thing in place on my own. It was never a problem in the 70'-80's.

  • icecrmcnkd
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    My Onkyo 6-disc changer started having drop outs in random spots. I would rewind and play again and the drop out was not there. So I think it was an electronics issue and not dust. Replaced the Onkyo with a Cambridge Audio and the CD’s played fine and even sounded better.

    I have CD’s from a variety of bands where the CD’s play fine on both the Onkyo and the Cambridge Audio players, but a good copy cannot be made to a hard drive. Redoing it with the same burner, or doing it on another computer with a different burner, still gives a copy with skips, but the skips are in different locations.
    This was the case with Road Trips Fall 77 + bonus disc (which I only got a few years ago). I had to copy the discs 5 times using 3 different computers and burners in order to get a single version on a music player that didn’t have skips.

    The only defective CD I ever got from Rhino was CD3 of 6-17-76, which Rhino acknowledged was defective and sent out defective replacements, then again sent out replacements which were fixed.

    If you store your CD’s in a hot car you should expect that they will eventually start to degrade. And the slot opening of car CD players can scuff up the disc. When I previously had a car with a CD player I made CD-R copies of my CD’s and stored the CD-R’s in the car.

    I put copies of all my GD releases on a music player and don’t continue spinning the CD’s once a good copy is on the music player. The GD releases are then stored in crates, protected from dust and dog drool.

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WHAT'S INSIDE:
Five complete, previously unreleased performances on 17CDs
Des Moines, IA 5/13/73
Santa Barbara, CA 5/20/73
San Francisco, CA 5/26/73
Washington, D.C. 6/9/73
Washington, D.C. 6/10/73
Recorded by Kidd Candelario, Betty Cantor-Jackson, and Owsley Stanley
Newly restored and speed-corrected audio by Plangent Processes
Mastered by Jeffrey Norman
Liners featuring notes from Canadian author, Ray Robertson, The Owsley Stanley Foundation, and Legacy Manager and Audio Archivist, David Lemieux
Art and Design by GRAMMY® Award-winning Art Director, Masaki Koike
Custom-dyed Tenugui and an exclusive poster featuring an illustration by Mary Ann Mayer
 
Limited Edition Individually Numbered To 10,000 
Exclusively At Dead.net

 
"There’s the simple fact that the band members were old enough and experienced enough by now to be virtuosos on their instruments (what other group—rock or jazz or any other kind of music—could boast a trio of spectacularly singular talents such as Garcia, Lesh, and Weir?) but were still young enough to want to play and play and play some more, the happy, itchy inclination of youth. As a few of the shows in the Here Comes Sunshine boxed set attest, it wasn’t unusual for a 1973 concert to exceed four hours. And within the shows themselves, there are nearly nightly examples of hour-long orgies of tune-linked songcraft and juicy jamming." - Ray Robertson, HERE COMES SUNSHINE 1973 Liners
 
8 years in and the Grateful Dead are a little bit of everything to everyone. They are putting up textures and tones of rock, of jazz, of country, with set-morphing vibes and long stretches of improvisations that are completely keyed into the sum of their parts. Keith Godchaux is here with his cascading notes. Donna Jean too. Both finding their footing and keeping things steady in the wake of Pigpen's unfillable gap. The spring of 1973 feels transformative for the Dead - no more so than the May and early June shows, complementary yet remarkably different, soon-to-be cornerstones of everyone's tape collections, and now, 50 years later, set to be part of the band's official canon.
 
HERE COMES SUNSHINE 1973 is a limited-edition, 17CD boxed set with five previously unreleased, highly sought-after Dead shows, including: Iowa State Fairgrounds, Des Moines, IA (5/13/73), Campus Stadium, UCSB, Santa Barbara, CA (5/20/73), Kezar Stadium, San Francisco, CA (5/26/73), and Robert F. Kennedy Memorial Stadium, Washington, D.C. (6/9/73) and (6/10/73).
 
During the spring, the band road-tested most of the songs they would record that summer for WAKE OF THE FLOOD – their first studio album in three years – including early live versions of “Mississippi Half-Step Toodeloo,” “Row Jimmy,” “Stella Blue,” “Eyes Of The World,” and, the set’s namesake, “Here Comes Sunshine.” Also tucked into the collection are songs destined for the Dead’s 1974 studio album, FROM THE MARS HOTEL – “China Doll,” “Loose Lucy,” and “Wave That Flag,” a precursor to “U.S. Blues.”
 
The new repertoire slipped neatly into the fluid setlists alongside songs honed on the 1972 European tour (“Jack Straw,” “Tennessee Jed,” “Brown-Eyed Women”), Chuck Berry perennials (“Promised Land,” “Around And Around”), classic country (“Big River,” “The Race Is On”), and incredible jam sequences: “He’s Gone”> “Truckin’”> “The Other One”> “Eyes Of The World.”
 
Due June 30th, the individually-numbered, limited-edition 17CD set features vibrant graphics and custom-designed folios by GRAMMY® Award-winning Art Director Masaki Koike, a custom-dyed Tenugui and an exclusive poster featuring an illustration by Mary Ann Mayer, and liner notes by Canadian author Ray Robertson, The Owsley Stanley Foundation, and David Lemieux. And, of course, it features newly restored and speed-corrected audio by Plangent Processes, mastered by Jeffrey Norman.
 
Digital convert? We've got you covered too. On the very same day you can collect your hi-definition download.

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I had a friend get married in Vegas 17 years ago. One day, it was “only” 113 degrees. Yes, it was a dry heat, but it’s the closest thing I can think of to being inside an actual oven!!
I was there for 5 days, and spent a total of 15 minutes outside (except for travel to & from Elvis Wedding Chapel). Never again!!
Just got my box yesterday, and only had time for disc 1. Like DAVEROCK, only this first disc was loose. It played perfectly. I’m just going to go through in order, all 17 discs. This weekend should be a blast!!

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Has anyone gotten all good files from a ALAC download? Got an email from WMG on 7/7 saying replacement files would be sent to me by 7/12, which came and went with nada. Things are moving from incompetence to arrogance at this point.

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Just a quick question to anyone who might have an answer for me, and possibly others, about this box set. Since it seems like it sold out so much faster than the sets from the last few years, here's my question...

Did this set actually sell out this fast, or were sales halted due to the numerous defect problems that I have been reading about in this forum?

Just wondering before I go ahead and purchase one from eBay at 2-3X the price, that may also be defective.

Speculation, this set sold out more quickly for a couple reasons, everyone knew there was a 10K limit and two-three of the shows are virtual holy grail candidates, awaited for years, if I can use that term without offending any Monty Python people. When it was able to be ordered more than two months ago, no one knew there would be production issues, many people knew they wanted it including those who profit by resale. By holding them to replacement for each and every defective, maybe WMG/Rhino does better with the next box.

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Received replacement files via email a few hours after my most recent post today. New files are good. Heart attack warning, though, MAKE SURE to fully delete to the trash all old files before importing new. If the old file remains, for some reason it controls and the issues remain. This happened on my first re-import and I almost lost my mind before double checking and noticing the import date was 7/1, not today. Upon full deletion to trash, the new file replaced it when I imported it again.

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Since many of the download files have been reported to be defective, did Rhino make copies of the CD’s to be used as the download files?
There have been reports of CD’s not ripping correctly (at least half of my CD’s made defective files when I copied them to a HD), so maybe Rhino had an intern rip a Box Set and they used that as the download files.
That would be a rookie move as well as doing it on the cheap.

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It took me a minute, but I got it. Run-your initials. Awesome!! Also, just found my favorite Brown Eyed Women-of all time. Never my favorite tune, but always liked it. This version (disc 3 of new box) just has that je ne sais quoi. The vocals, particularly Jerry’s phrasing and enunciation, superb!! On to disc 4 and the end of show 1. Hard to be down when your listening to these diamonds, and have 4 more shows waiting. Thanks Dave & all. Great stuff!!
We’re not worthy!!

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All four discs are free of blemishes and play/burn without a problem. It says "Made in Germany" on both the package and discs; I doubt they could sell it in the EU if this were not true. All my German-made discs going back a decade, including the stand-alone releases for most of the box sets as well as the 50th anniversary editions, look and play as if they just rolled off the factory floor. Maybe they should use this German factory to produce future box sets and DaPs. They might cost a bit more but the excellent quality control will more than make up for it.

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Thank you for all the work you did with the Grateful Dead.

Fare you well my friend
Fare you well my only true one
All the birds that were singing
Have flown except you alone
Going to leave this broke-down palace
On my hands and my knees, I will roll, roll, roll
Make myself a bed by the waterside
In my time, in my time, I will roll, roll, roll
In a bed, in a bed
By the waterside I will lay my head
Listen to the river and sing sweet songs
To rock my soul
River gonna take me
Sing me sweet and sleepy
Sing me sweet and sleepy
All the way back home
It's a far-gone lullaby
Sung many years ago
Mama, mama, many worlds I've come
Since I first left home
Going home, going home
By the waterside, I will rest my bones
Listen to the river and sing sweet songs
To rock my soul
Going to plant a weeping willow
On the banks green edge it will grow, grow, grow
Sing a lullaby beside the water
Lovers come and go, the river roll, roll, roll
Fare you well, fare you well
I love you more than words can tell
Listen to the river and sing sweet songs
To rock my soul

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I found 2 defective discs in my Here Comes Sunshine box: 6/9/73 DISCS 1 & 2 - glue. I was always lucky with the discs - no scratches or glue problems, until now.
How do I go about replacing these discs? What is the procedure?

BCE, if it's just glue bits, it will be quicker and done if you source some 91% isopropanol (sp?) and DIY. Found it for $3 at a local pharmacy, after trying 70% which just half melted and smeared. 91% with gentle swabbing worked for me. Discovered six of my 17 HCS discs had glue on edges which caused skipping on some final tracks. Since plenty people were having issues, plus considering it took five weeks to replace a defective Dap46 disc, I could not wait... once treated, most discs are fine. Now the scuffs/scratched ones, ask for replacement, those cardboard slip cases are not CD friendly. RIP Sam, looking back at the parts he played for the music I was into late 60s into mid 70s, he had so much to do with making it all happen, including Watkins Glen. Vguy, thanks for nudging me back into Phish, with access to that Serious radio channel this summer, delving into excellent live shows from what used to be our little local Vermont band. An old friend offered me a ticket to one of the upcoming MSG shows, and if not such a logistical challenge, as well as a huge crowd show, would be there.

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Rhino is putting out a 3cd set of live shows from the Matrix in 1967.

If interested.

I think my computer is crapping out, so I maybe gone for a while. First my tablet crapped out after 9 years and now my desktop (also 9 years old) is powering off out of the blue. Ran some basic test,,,, something in the motherboard/cpu. I HATE getting a new computer,,, so much shit to move!

Your solution worked quite well. I used CVS Brand isopropyl alcohol 91% and CVS cotton balls and that removed the glue. It saves me time so I don't have to wait 5 to 6 weeks or more for replacement discs from WEA/Rhino/Dr. Rhino. The affected track was Playing In The Band - it would skip at about 15:00 and then stop. It plays well now.
Thank you.

Levee gonna break. Yeeshk DMCVT, still raining?

Sam the Man!
His book is a trip if you haven’t read it…
Yep, thanks for all ya did “mate”, so much that most folks don’t even know.
May the four winds blow you safely home!

I was fortunate enough to have met Sam at Lockn Music Festival when I purchased his book. He took the time to discuss a few things, tell me some stories and take a picture with me, which of course he insisted it be taken with the two of us inside a large picture frame so he said "you've got to have a picture frame if we're going to take a picture!" I will have to dig up that picture from my digital storage and properly frame it. RIP Sam. You lived quite a life! Thanks for doing all you did in your time. Peace

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Very intense line of Tstorms went through last night, flash flood alerts of course, high wind forecast, up to 1" hail. Two funnel clouds seen but no touchdowns. Thousands of people lost power, Burlington area was spared, it was not big bad here but the thunder and lightning was wild. Major crop damage for flooded farmers near rivers which is most in this hilly place. One death from drowning now confirmed. Still lots of roads closed, some bridges out, people stranded but a wonderful outpouring of volunteers, people helping people in most affected towns like Montpelier, Barre, Ludlow.

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From Des Moines...Holy Mamma Daddy! That's one for the books. I love the way the band was really starting to stretch out the transitions. Sounded way better than when I caught the Eyes/China in the car the other night. I will use this one to turn others into our way of thinking, if you know what I mean, and I think you do. On to Santa Barbara...Hey, that's my home town. The weather is really nice here.

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For sure, the scratched discs is a bummer, and one I'm finding bothersome as I listen, finding skips in what seemed like good rips. Luckily just a handful of tracks after spending time extracting carefully the first time around in Windows Media Player, though not checking ones I had to re-rip. Had to download Exact Audio Copy, which I hadn't used in over a decade, but it took care of the problems I've found thus far. The funny thing is even some of the discs in better shape had skips, and some of the most scratched had no problems ripping, and no skips in the playback. Life is just full of little ironies like that.

But the great aspect of this box is the music. Wonderful, vibrant, adventurous music being played by wonderfully vibrant and adventurous young men that were also haunted by the spectre of their fallen former leader just weeks before these shows. One of the great joys of this box is finally a set of releases that really lets Keith shine in the mix. His work on Loser is fantastic, little nuances one never hears on other releases, even multitracks, even Europe '72 Complete. Here, he is fully engaged in the musical conversation. Not really driving it like Jerry, Phil, and Bob, but much more emphatic and colorful in what he does add in these shows. And it sounds even better and more prominent than the three shows that follow that were released in PacNW. I'll be the brave one to test that statement following this listen and re-rip. Since somebody mentioned now 4/2 through 6/26 was all released now, figured I'd load up a USB with that plus DaP 16 3/26/73 (Somebody's gotta listen to that WRS Prelude> Dark Star> Eyes>Playing, and DaP 32 3/24/73 with its own He's Gone> Truckin> 20 min Jam> 4 min Dark Star> Sing Me Back Home to slog through as well. But with DaP 4/2/73, we do get to check yet another recordist: Rex Jackson. (*whispers* this tape may be the best of them all soundwise, if not even close to my favorite playing wise)

Also, Kezar sounds soooo much better than the tape I had 25 years ago, which was one of my first 3 Dead tapes (just sets 1 and 2, I think), and that I think was a KSAN broadcast, so not Betty's wonderful work. Digging 6/9, and for the first time in the box, Phil has that richer sound, and that's because it's Bear recording now. This is such a fascinating box.

Funny enough, partly was a reference to things could be worse, as I was playing Here Comes Sunshine, while seeing the wake of the flood in VT, though nowhere near bad floods, this was on 4 outside Woodstock. And the places where so much devastation has occurred: Ludlow, Barre, Okemo, Londonderry, Montpelier I was at just a week before the floods taking pictures of the beauty. So, by comparison a box set with over half the discs scratched before I got them is small potatoes, and the music, when ripped carefully at 1x if need be, is glorious. Also, String Cheese was playing their song Lost as I typed. And my wife and I were supposed to be there, but now that we're two weeks from closing and moving from Boston to VT, we couldn't make (excepting the wonders of livestreaming) an epic night with John Fogerty and Cheese crushing the second set and encore at Red Rocks. The Lost reference is an added bonus

Two worthy Dead pieces just out, one by Anthony Fisher, Daily Beast, the other one, Michael Cohen, MSNBC. Welcome to Vermont Alvarhanso. Hope your new place is nowhere near a flood plain. Familiar with that stretch of route 4, the one and only major road east west through central Vermont so others might know. Friday a week ago, before the Monday deluge which caused so much damage to the towns you noted, a section of route 4 was closed near Killington due to mud slide from heavy rain. On this end of route 4, worst damage from Monday seems to be the Lakeland golf course at Quechee Club which is in the flood plain. A temporary bridge on the White River washed out. Woodstock village still has a boil water order. The Ottauquechee River comes off Killington mountain, runs through Bridgewater and Woodstock, route 4 follows it east to the White River. Three bridges on that river remain closed as far as I know, at Quechee village, Taftsville and at the club. Concerns with the concrete dam at Simon Pearce, Quechee near the covered bridge. Federal disaster relief now approved, people can contact FEMA. With 3-4 inches of rain predicted tomorrow, flash flood alerts are already issued. Jerry Jam up north was cancelled, but there's JRAD mid August at Jay Peak. Please feel free to PM if I can be of any help, sounds like you know Vermont. Finally made it all the way through the first show in the box, glue cleaning done and things dried out for now. Loving it, 1973 was the year I saw the Dead twice with these shows in the middle of that time.

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Thanks DMCVT. Perfect way to start the day.
Now on to 6-10-73 while watching the Scottish Open.
Life is good.
Cheers
Edit: Breaking news on 47 on the 46 thread.

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Has anyone actually gone through the process of reporting defective discs and getting a positive response from customer service, ie "yes, we will send you replacement discs"? I got a response today from a Heather at "WMG Damaged Returns" and the key phrases were, "Please send us a photo/video of your item for our records (highlighting the damage, if possible). In the meantime, we will look into potential resolutions and update you as soon as possible." ... So I sent pictures of my damaged disc and am awaiting resolution. I'm a little leery given the wording ... I'd rather hear "we will replace your bad disk" instead of some unspecified "potential resolution." I just hope they have additional copies of the CDs and can actually replace all the damaged disks we've all received.

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please send me a PM with the details and I'll ask the Doc to help.
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....damage control worked for me regarding a shattered Dave's glass.
It was packaged in paper. The replacement was packaged in bubble wrap. Just like all the other ones were.
I remember laughing and shaking my head when I opened it. "WTF? LOL".
But dead net came through.

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Greatest Story reached a peak for me in 1973, and the one on 5/20 must be up there with the best. Great raging guitar from Jerry. The highlight of this show, though, is surely the jam from Truckin' to Eyes. Especially the two connecting jams before and after The Other One. The one before is credited on the sleeve in it's own right as an individual track, called, surprisingly enough "Jam". But the one that grows out of The Other One isn't. It sounds quite unique to me - again made by Jerry's incredible solos.

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....unpopular opinion here, but did Des Moines get the better show?
Need to digest this further. Gimme a week.
I too, am a Greatest Story fan daverock.
Also a huge Here Comes Sunshine fan. Got five more! 👋
Was huge news when they brought it back in the '90's.
It's rumored that Welnick brought it up. If true, good on you sir. RIP.
HCS just lopes along. Good tune.

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Update.
Rhino have told some people it will be 8 weeks until the solution is communicated.That makes it the end of August.
One of the senior Rhino people has been posting about this issue at Hoffmans.They are definitely aware of it and that the only satisfactory solution is replacement discs not refunds or discounts.Again it costs not much more than nothing to press CDs so if they have to do that it shouldn’t be an issue.Do not accept any solution that doesn’t involve replacement.
One interesting thing that has come out has been discussion about issues of discs that don’t play even though they have no visible damage.This has been occurring haphazardly in Dead releases since about 2020 although never as prevalent as with this release.Rhino changed manufacturing plants in 2019 and have had zero problems with releases by other artists.The only difference they can put it down to is that Jeffrey still uses HDCD for transfer and that affects the coding although these discs aren’t HDCD.People with players where a light comes on when HDCD are still seeing that light.In some totally random unexplainable way that might be affecting playback with some discs on some players.I said might about all of this but Rhino is talking about removing HDCD from the chain in future.
The biggest villain here is the fool that designed this totally disfunctional packaging.Hang in there everyone and don’t give up until you get your replacement discs whenever that might be.
Finally asking for pictures is ridiculous.How does it help people who have visibly perfect discs that just won’t play?Compare with Universal that when there was slight warping on some of the discs of the 8 disc Hard Luck Stories box that only prevented ripping sent out complete replacement sets to everyone who asked for them.Having people analysing photos and then picking out particular discs to send out doesn’t seem that cost effective to me.
Edit-Just checked and the packaging is designed by Masaki Koike who has apparently won a Grammy for this stuff.They might want to return it in shame after they have designed something that has damaged thousands of discs and no doubt will eat into Rhino’s profit margins on this release.

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....spitting facts.
It's a roll of the dice re GD releases.
Always has been since Rhino entered the picture.

VGuy - great HCS on 5/26/73, too. Slight skip at the beginning of this track - hopefully nothing permanent. Bob seems higher in the mix on this show than in the two earlier ones.
Alan - good points all round. Not having a mobile phone I couldn't take photo's of a cd even if I felt inclined to.

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Through disc 1 of the final show in the box with close headphone or hooked up to the big boy stereo. CDs and ripped.
My first impressions are that each show gets progressively better in terms of performance. I might come up with some specific examples (Disc 2 of 6-10 PLAYING IN THE BAND) Makes sense if you think about the Dead's touring schedule at the time. I might personally go with Iowa over Santa Barbara on account of Jerry's voice, but each show definitely warrants a close headphone listen or better.

P.S. Shout out to the well-placed HC Sunshine tease out of Truckin' on 6-9 (this may be the sleeper show for me as I hadn't ever heard this one)

-edit- Kezar could well have been the standalone show, but 6-10 is a grate choice, nonetheless. I am looking forward to many more spins on these and I am glad the quality check went well for me despite the glue not having been quite dry

Once again the “taper” show was overhyped.
I’ve only listened once so far, but felt though it has several significant moments, it’s overhyped.
Iowa has been the wildcard sleeper, though Kezar stood out too.
But, as I say, only one time through so far…

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That 6/9 Playing is industrial strength. Show is tighttighttight. The He's Gone > Trucking. Eyes > China Doll. Awesome Sugar Mag to close. Best Loose Lucy maybe ever!! Do it!!

Every one of these shows is gold. Great playing. Favorite era. Sound quality is pretty much out of this world crystal.

To be clear I'm an "Iowa" kid, as in 5/13 was my show in the this box and the rest just gravy ; )

The 5/13 jam sequence is always gonna be a top shelf favorite.

But yep - 6/9

Oh, and 5/26 Kezar. and 5/20 Santa Barbara.

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I'm slowly making my way through this show by show. Up to the last disc of 6/9/73 so far.

It's hard for me to point to any one show as "the one" from the box. I think Dave L's point in the video about the smaller moments really nails it. Most of the big jams center around combinations of He's Gone, Truckin', The Other One and Eyes, with PITB being a consistent jamming vehicle falling into various set locations. The smaller moments in songs that aren't necessarily jam focused seem to have the extra oomph and to me are the real highlights.

It'll take more time for me to digest and pick out specific moments, but imagine if you've listened through the whole set, it's all good. A nice companion to the PNW 73 (and 74) shows.

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Box arrived today.
3 scratched discs I’ll be after replacements for but no glue residue.
Scratches don’t show up in photos due to resolution and light probably so hopefully Rhino don’t cause aggravation if they really intend to go through thousands of photos trying to spot damage.
I have worked how this problem was caused.Unlike every other box set I own where the discs fit in cardboard slots without covers the discs come in and out to the side rather than up and down from the top.Because of this they have correctly ascertained that they won’t be as secure so have made the slots slightly smaller.Enough to damage thousands of discs.Idiot design and asI posted at Hoffmans a clear fail in any Industrial Design 101 course.

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