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    Dave's Picks Vol. 50: Palladium, New York City, NY 5/3/77

    Reviewer: WolfmansBrother - favoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - February 11, 2008 - Online Review

    Subject: setting me on fire

    left the orchestra section during ship of fools and arrived in the loge for the basso profundo MNS - it's the best of the tour so far, i think, and the balcony is shakin' to its raging outro leading. i sit to take a short break, too.

    yet another night of the first set seeming to spill over. first half of this second set is well-played, indeed, but the sugaree is the INSANE highlight, and keith and jerry are battling it out. one of the strongest estimateds of tour and i, for one, am happy for the FOTD break. the second half belongs to jerry - eyes is short but stellar and bridges to yet another rip-your-heart-out wharf rat, and NFA showcases some down in the weeds jamming. we're stomping and clapping and grinning our faces off, and then joint is jumping for sure as they close it down. another fine UJB encore sends me out the door, so very deeply in love with this band and its music. is there anything better than being a deadhead?

    Is there anything better than being a Dead Head when one of your favorite shows is officially released in its entirety? We'll double down on your sentiments WolfmansBrother, with DAVE'S PICK VOLUME 50: PALLADIUM, NEW YORK CITY, NY 5/3/77, and we'll bring the fire extinguisher to cool you off after you listen to Betty Cantor-Jackson's complete recording. Don't want the party to end? We'll stoke those embers with a few hot tracks from the first set of  5/4/77. Dave's Picks Subscribers score the monstrous second set from 5/4/77 featuring "Scarlet>Fire,"  "Terrapin," 'Playing In The Band," "Comes A Time," and more. Woowee!

    Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, this release has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. 

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  • Forensicdoceleven
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    Hey hey hey rockers!!!

    I have it on not good authority that 51 will be 1/21/71, returned tapes 1/22/71 will be used to fill out the CDs. So get ready!!!!!

    I have realized that the past and future are real illusions, that they exist in the present, which is what there is and all there is......

    Rock on rockers!!!

    Doc
    I look to the future because that's where I'm going to spend the rest of my life.....

  • proudfoot
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    I see this blip about a statue

    of Poseidon in Mexico.

    A sculptor could make one of Jerry holding a guitar

    Another cannonball into the great pool of puddled lysergia

    "You're probably feeling
    Like a human cannonball"

  • dmcvt
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    Saw that

    If only they could include that Australian release by Ron McKernan, "Bring Me My Shotgun". Dave's announce may have been delayed by the earthquakes.

  • hendrixfreak
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    So we have DPs and the annual box as Standard Operating Procedure. So far, so good.

    But they've got to figure out a money-making way to release the '68 tapes and the mini-box:
    Pigpen, 1965-1971 (mostly live, but featuring the best of the Pig solo (even low-fi home recordings).

    Just doing a cannonball into the pool while no one's watching.

    I kinda think that, in retail terms, August is a pretty lost month. Most commercial activity picks up after Labor Day. Thus I'm guessing that we have 18 more daze to learn of this year's box.

    Consider as you will, I've never been right before.

    Cheers, HF

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    STARTIN' to get itchy?

    "scratched till I bled"

  • Gary Farseer
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    Still no announcement. Ugh. Wondering if 51 is going to be a heater. Like once announced remaining copies outside of prescription will sell out in a day or so. Maybe trying to get 51 sold out with this next announcement.

    Startin to get itchy.

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    What happened at the 03 Las Vegas shows?

    Not up to snuff?

    Kid Rock? 'scuse me while I barf a while

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    ....he just uploaded GD 9.4.83 Park West, UT on the toob the other day.
    It's not Santa Fe, but we're getting warmer!
    9.29.00 Phish in Vegas. Yeah Alvarhanso. I burned that show from my brain as well. You are correct. The next night was Treys birthday when they announced their first hiatus. One of the first concerts ever live streamed if I recall correctly.
    We don't talk about the '04 Vegas shows 'round these parts.
    A longer break was indeed needed.

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    With always a two month preorder on these as of late, past September releases were always announced in July. Which draws me to the conclusion {current possible July announcements notwithstanding} that this will be an October release with an August announcement. That leads me to believe that this years 2024 Big Box Dead release will in fact be the October 1974 Winterland shows. Happy 50th anniversary! So as to the "Halaska" rumors, that (leak?) may well be a test sample of enthusiasm for a future box release, since these compilations are planned well in advance.

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Dave's Picks Vol. 50: Palladium, New York City, NY 5/3/77

Reviewer: WolfmansBrother - favoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - February 11, 2008 - Online Review

Subject: setting me on fire

left the orchestra section during ship of fools and arrived in the loge for the basso profundo MNS - it's the best of the tour so far, i think, and the balcony is shakin' to its raging outro leading. i sit to take a short break, too.

yet another night of the first set seeming to spill over. first half of this second set is well-played, indeed, but the sugaree is the INSANE highlight, and keith and jerry are battling it out. one of the strongest estimateds of tour and i, for one, am happy for the FOTD break. the second half belongs to jerry - eyes is short but stellar and bridges to yet another rip-your-heart-out wharf rat, and NFA showcases some down in the weeds jamming. we're stomping and clapping and grinning our faces off, and then joint is jumping for sure as they close it down. another fine UJB encore sends me out the door, so very deeply in love with this band and its music. is there anything better than being a deadhead?

Is there anything better than being a Dead Head when one of your favorite shows is officially released in its entirety? We'll double down on your sentiments WolfmansBrother, with DAVE'S PICK VOLUME 50: PALLADIUM, NEW YORK CITY, NY 5/3/77, and we'll bring the fire extinguisher to cool you off after you listen to Betty Cantor-Jackson's complete recording. Don't want the party to end? We'll stoke those embers with a few hot tracks from the first set of  5/4/77. Dave's Picks Subscribers score the monstrous second set from 5/4/77 featuring "Scarlet>Fire,"  "Terrapin," 'Playing In The Band," "Comes A Time," and more. Woowee!

Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, this release has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. 

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TTB killed it last night in Berkeley, in case anyone's wondering. One of the better shows I've seen them do.

Derek was on fire, as usual, just one of the best guitarists I've ever heard. Susan was in great voice as always (and not as cold as she was on Friday night when it got a bit chilly at the Greek). She played Jerry's alligator guitar for a couple tunes, including a cover of Mr Charlie.

One thing that stood out on this show was the way that some members of the band were able to step forward a little more than in the past: background vocalist Alicia Chakour took lead vocals on a gospel-like tune and succeeded in calling the spirits. The horns got more solo time than I can recall, and trombonist Elizabeth Lea brought the house down a couple times. And there were a some covers I didn't expect, including the Stones Monkey Man, Cream's Outside Woman Blues (OK, I know, it's actually some blues dude's song, but it was the Cream arrangement.) And I always love their version of Space Captain, which closed the set. Encore was a nice piano ballad by Susan, followed by a roaring Leaving Truck>Volunteer Slavery. Whew!

Anyway, TTB is IMO probably the best live band we've got left. I would heartily recommend checking them out if you get the chance.

This has been your TTB report. We now return you to your regular scheduled Hey Now.

[Edit]: PS forgot to even mention Little Feat, who opened the show. They were excellent! And jammed with TTB on that encore.

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I did not go, but went last year. They're pretty amazing, and also I think the Greek agrees with them, which is always a good thing.
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We THINK this has been addressed. Should you encounter more strange occurrences, in the desert or otherwise, please let us know. Onward... Tell your friends too.
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box set going to be announced? June or July? What year or years is it going to be?

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Tap tap tap w fuckfuckfuck,Winterland🤞
Hmmmm?

TTB: saw that last night on the couch in the cocoon/bunker, on 130” screen with Auro 3D immersive audio on McIntosh system…
Good Sheet Mon!
Had only seen clips on devices etc, never a whole show!
I only wish I knew the songs, and only gripe: vocals perhaps a tad too low in the mix, and I couldn’t understand much of the lyrics unfortunately…BUT,
the playing was fantastic all around, and
They did take me too the special place where goosebumps live etc, even a tear or too of Joy and beauty! Which was nice…needed a “live” music fix.
Not sure I’d become a huge fan, but will definitely enjoy a show now and again from the cocoon.
ONWARD indeed!

Edit: got HNd via my torture test above, but only had to remove Dubba u dubba u dubba u, which I guess is proper…

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Dubai, Dubai, Dubai?
Abu Dabi Too?

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29 years ago I was at Shoreline with my brother sitting in the 3rd row, having a blast with the Good old Grateful Dead.

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The Sphere is very kool and different. Can I say these words? This is a test.

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Go see it. Mrs, Big and I just got home from the six hour drive, and it was totally worth it. 18,000 heads from all over the planet were there for one thing, to attend the new church of the Grateful Dead. Man oh man, we got the feeling! Here's the setlist:
First Set: Shakedown, Jack Straw, New Speedway Boogie, Row Jimmy, Tennessee Jed ,PITB, Don't Ease Me In.
Second Set: UJB, China>Rider, Dark Star> Drums>Space>Stella Blue, Terrapin, Hell in a Bucket, Black Muddy River, Casey Jones.
Big city prices on everything, but to Vegas, the Sphere, and especially the Band, I say
"Thank you, for a real good time!!!" Woooooo

I'll be at TTB with Little Feat on Wednesday. It's a little closer to home, about a five minute drive.

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Ticketmaster data breach.
Personal info of some huge number of customers available on the dark web.
Didn't read the whole article but this can't be good.
Cheers

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....as if they didn't suck enough already. Here's some more icing for an already shitty cake.

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a friend who is a pro snapper just sent TPTB a classic shot he took of Jer during the final five night run in October 1974.

Not sure what to make of that. I kinda think maybe it's for a Dave's Picks -- perhaps a whole show from that run for release this year? If it were for a box set, I'd think they'd have asked for more pics. That said, there had to be many snappers at those shows, so probably they have plenty to select from.

Passing this along knowing it only generates questions rather than answers. ForensicDoc, who also provided pics for a DP, has to love that cryptic statement...

I think all of us thought there must be something left from this run worth mining.

Big Brownie, awesome news, good to hear.

Ticketslave data breach, ffs, what's next?

I woke up last night with a song in my head. The rhythm mostly, but there were words.. Mostly a dark tale.

It took me all day to figure out it was the song Off To Sea Once More. That must mean my personal information is on the dark web thanks to the data breach and in order to get tickets to any show I will have to spend 18 to 24 months on a 17th century galleon with the single exception of taylor swift tickets and when I push the purchase button for two tix @ $17k my money is gone and the eticket is a PDF of Alfred E. Newman.

Or I could be wrong and it was just a random dream.

One other comment to HF's picture friend. I think they are getting desperate for really good shows to release. The 77 magic is wearing off and a complete killer show from October where just a song or two made it's way to the GD movie box set works. (at least it works for me)

As you were.. ticketbastard still sucks.

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Good intel Hendrixfreak and it is real.

You are getting me excited over here.

Don't think they would ever use them in Dave's Picks as the October Winterkand run was all recorded in spectacular multi track. Hope we get an announcement soon.

Would probably break the site when it is announced. Hope I am not out of pocket that day.

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.... by a landslide. And she's Jewish.
That wasn't on my bingo card.
That's huge. And pretty awesome. 🇲🇽
My political post of the month because I'm pulling in my horses reins hard on purpose. 🍻

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One month. Just one month of fans staying home would end the stone cold robbery being committed by these criminals

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One time, probaly circa 2006, I had a day off and some cash so I went to my local music store and purchased a couple of cd's. After leaving the music store I passed a local pub and noticed a couple of friends cars there. I went in and ordered a beer and excitedly told my buddies that I just bought some new music. My one buddy looked at me and said "you're crazy man, all that stuff is free on the internet"

Nothing comes for free, folks. Nothing

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Maybe that October 74 Hinterland photo will be used for one of the remaining shows from Munich or Paris. The mystery box and Daves 51 are in production now, they know what 52 will be, must be something from 1974 as a 50th anniversary.... where's Bolo with his box teaser?

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Hmmm a double post happened, thanks craptcha

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Hey rockers, HF, and Jim!!!!

HF: Yes, I like cryptic, but I luxuriate in enigma...........

Jim: There's LOTS of good shows still to release, even in 1970...........so don't lose the faith. After all, tapes of the June 12 and 13 Hawaii shows are in the vault, and they sound pretty good!!

I have always knocked at the door of that wonderful and terrible enigma which is life........

Doc
But now I have come to believe that the whole world is an enigma, a harmless enigma that is made terrible by our own mad attempt to interpret it as though it had an underlying truth......

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Great minds think alike. Did you go to the night before? I lliked the night before better, New Speedway Boogie, Candyman, STOM, Lucy in The Sky with Diamonds. Both nights were a blast!

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....didn't go to Friday. Saturday was the better show.
Those songs were from the Friday show btw.

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Friday night was the night they did the songs that I mentioned.. They also did Bird Song , Promised , land,and the Monks sang. Saturday night( my last Dead show) was good but I liked Friday better.

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..Doc - it sounds as if you have heard this ? do you have a set-list.. ??

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I wonder if any complete shows from this Winterland run were filmed ? It seems likely, given the movie. Maybe they were all filmed, in which case they could release all of them on blu ray. That would be a box set with a difference.

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That would be a box with a difference!!

Ahh, one can dream

Rock on, gang!

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Danehead (and any other interested parties)............

Fairly decently sized chunks of both the 12th and 13th were previously played on dead net, I think on the Taper's Section. Don't have the setlists here with me at work (lol) but I think---emphasis on "think"---that there was a That's It For The Other One on the 12th. Could be mistaken, even though I did listen to both over the weekend...........

I do have both of those segments-as well as many old, interesting fragments of Taper's Section/Jam Of The Week---going back many years. You all know where to find me.........

Every once in a while, it seems like the cosmos part, and something great plops into your lap.....

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The whole run was filmed. Per the 2005 bonus DVD, Dave discusses this and indicates there is enough for another movie.

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Release all the shows on DVD and that sells out in 5 min. While your at it release 9/20/70.

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What Jer would think about the art work displayed at the sphere. Not only inside the sphere but at the DEAD FOREVER exhibit. Just wow. And way better than anything Phish did that I saw. And Phish's art was very good.

This was 9 years ago, but I stopped by the audio desk before and after a TTB concert. I had on my June 1987 "LOVE is real, not fade away" shirt. Ask about their line arrays, they said they they were using an Italian company ftb. They sounded great so a little disheartening if vocals were low; especially with the number of singers they have.

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Nice to see ya in this hopefully HN free environment lol

I’m guessing good chance that might of been my system (low vocals)
I up convert the PCM stereo feed to Auro 3D immersive audio.
And with any of the codecs out there, sometimes shit in the center channel isn’t great? Sometimes with “fake” surround etc things aren’t always where they should be…I should have played with Atmos or others just to see if it was that or their mix? I’m sure she would have to be more prevalent in the actual house mix.
I’m sure if I knew the lyrics it’d help. But hey that’s just me being tech picky, the overall experience was very enjoyable with several “moments” of emotional affinity and even a little verklempt at times! Beautiful evening of music!

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Nice.
Not that I actually know what it is.

Speaking of technology, I watched the Bowie doc Moonage Daydream last weekend. I bought the 2-disc release with a Blu-ray and 4K UHD disc, which was only a dollar more than the single disc Blu-ray. Pay a dollar more for a second disc that is higher def? Sure.
After watching it I wasn’t sure why they bothered to make a 4K disc since the video footage was all grainy film from the 70s. Kind of like digitizing a hissy cassette in 24/196.
Good documentary though.

Of course though, if Dave/Rhino were kind enough to offer me the option of buying all of Winterland October ‘74 video in 4K UHD I would obviously buy it.

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Adds the third dimension of height.
Complicated, but nobody knows about it because Dolby basically got an early monopoly with Atmos, though Auro is a better tech, especially for listening to music. Great for those old GD DVDs!

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Which forms a cube, also known as a Frinkahedron, in honor of its discoverer.

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that Anchor Brewery has been bought out and is set to start brewing beer again in S.F. I always liked their Liberty Ale and their Christmas Ale. That's good news.

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....alt beer beyond the big/shitty American beers when i was younger. Then i discovered Sam Smiths Nut Brown Ale. In a Dead lot. 🍻
I'm listening to GarciaLive 16. Bread In The Breadbox comes on as I'm watching a compilation of kids running in mirror mazes. The video/music synchronized almost perfectly. "Open up your eyes lil darling." WHAM! Funny shit.
I'm a little high as well, so ignore all that. Just remember to wake me up before you go-go. Don't leave me hanging on like a yo-yo..

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Morning, rockers!!!

6/12: about 26 minutes long, That's It For The Other One. Decent, not great quality. Have not found any setlists for this one......

6/13: about 28 minutes long, Me & My Uncle-Good Lovin'-China/Rider. Very good quality. Deadbase has the complete setlist............

Off to Gainesville, another round of immunotherapy for my lovely wife......

Rock on,

Doc

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Hops Now. No Hey. On the recent trip to downeast Maine, we drove up to Campobello Island, to find its economy devastated by Covid border closing. Been before, great spot, FDRs summer home a national park, maybe he reburied the treasure there after his excavation at Oak Island. The obligatory stop at the island mart to see what great Canadian beers are only available there, not back in the USA, sadly not much. Don't forget your passport... it was very odd to be questioned by the Canadian border agents about cannabis products and not on return by USA customs. Then stopped at a market near Lubec, found some Geary's Hampshire Special Ale, used to be sold only in Maine, previously seasonal. Excellent plus.

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Geary's Ale, wow now there's a flashback!
Bottles of Geary's with steamed lobstah on picnic tables in Bar Harbor July 1990, completely wacked next day when we heard from a local deadhead of Brent's passing. I've got the original Geary's t-shirt framed and hanging on the wall next to a framed Workingman's Dead Album cover. Such a notion to immortalize those things that make one smile.
Thnx DMCVT!

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6/12 - TOO - o.k. sound you say, Doc.. but is it "Box-set" o.k. ? 6/13 - I think the (brutal sounding) audience tape of "Lovelight" cuts after some 24 min. - there could be moore there..

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Yeah BTK, I was flooded with messages from friends and family about the return of Anchor!
(Pretty bad when relatives know yer a beer junkie lol)
Those are my two favorites of theirs also…well, actually their Porter has always been an all time fav, yum…
Article mentioned hoping to do Xmass Ale this year!🤞🤞🤞

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