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    Dave's Picks Vol. 50: Palladium, New York City, NY 5/3/77

    Reviewer: WolfmansBrother - favoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - February 11, 2008 - Online Review

    Subject: setting me on fire

    left the orchestra section during ship of fools and arrived in the loge for the basso profundo MNS - it's the best of the tour so far, i think, and the balcony is shakin' to its raging outro leading. i sit to take a short break, too.

    yet another night of the first set seeming to spill over. first half of this second set is well-played, indeed, but the sugaree is the INSANE highlight, and keith and jerry are battling it out. one of the strongest estimateds of tour and i, for one, am happy for the FOTD break. the second half belongs to jerry - eyes is short but stellar and bridges to yet another rip-your-heart-out wharf rat, and NFA showcases some down in the weeds jamming. we're stomping and clapping and grinning our faces off, and then joint is jumping for sure as they close it down. another fine UJB encore sends me out the door, so very deeply in love with this band and its music. is there anything better than being a deadhead?

    Is there anything better than being a Dead Head when one of your favorite shows is officially released in its entirety? We'll double down on your sentiments WolfmansBrother, with DAVE'S PICK VOLUME 50: PALLADIUM, NEW YORK CITY, NY 5/3/77, and we'll bring the fire extinguisher to cool you off after you listen to Betty Cantor-Jackson's complete recording. Don't want the party to end? We'll stoke those embers with a few hot tracks from the first set of  5/4/77. Dave's Picks Subscribers score the monstrous second set from 5/4/77 featuring "Scarlet>Fire,"  "Terrapin," 'Playing In The Band," "Comes A Time," and more. Woowee!

    Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, this release has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. 

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  • Noah's Great Rainbow
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    Imagine a world where GDP posts the entire year's agenda on New Years. No more keeping devoted fans in the dark. No unrealistic expectations, no dashed hopes, just great music and happy folks.

    Imagine a world where unresolved customer service issues arent just relegated to one very kind soul. And help to support her many fine efforts to help us folks.

    Well, yes, I may have a very active imagination. Yes, I am clearly an optimist too. (Thus my screenname) And I'd kinda like to share my wishlist of future shows right now. But I won't. I still remain thankful for what we have, regardless.

    But that isnt why I decided to return and post here. The world is a scary place right now, and music can surely heal the soul in such times. For me, the poem on my wall, "Desiderata" perfectly describes it for me. Most of us are likely familiar with it. And for those who continue to struggle with what ever daily life throws at you, please know that you are not alone.

    "With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams,
    it is still a beautiful world.
    Be cheerful.
    Strive to be happy."

    Church is over, you may now go in peace. And to quote Pierre Robert, our local radio guy's favorite phrase "God Bless the Grateful Dead"

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    KIDDD: Yes, both 1969 Santa Rosa shows are very good and would make a nice release (hint hint to TPTB). I do believe that the kind folks at GEMS put pretty good copies into general circulation a while back...............

    JIM: Yes, fragments of both of the June 1970 Hawaii shows were streamed on deadnet previously. As I recall, both were pretty good quality, given today's sonic processing technology both could be nicely cleaned up. One had a lengthy TIFTOO. Can't recall the other one, which was a notch better quality.

    Undecided about the rumored 1970/1980 box. Would much prefer that the Hawaii shows be released separately, and if they want to issue a 1980 box that would be OK. But I'd prefer to keep the 2 eras separate. Of course, I'm not in charge of choices.........

    Four straight paperwork days, think I'm forgetting how to cut up dead folks..........

    Doc
    When music fails to agree to the ear, to soothe the ear and the heart and the senses, then it has missed the point.......

  • jonathan918@GD
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    I was hoping they would stick with the "venue" concept a little while longer. I like it!!

    Whatever it is, i'm on board

    rock on, gang

  • billy the kiddd
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    Killer of a show, put this together with 6/28/69 and you have a great release. Or, as part of a larger 1969 box set.

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    The Half Baked box sure seems like a Bad Idea, in terms of marketing.

    You got your people who love 1970. A 1970 box would probably sell great. And you got your people, probably a somewhat smaller group, that love 1980. A 1980 would probably do OK. But there's probably not that many people in the middle of that Venn diagram loving both those very different years. Seems like a tough sell to try to convince people to part with roughly $175 for a set where they're not super enthusiastic about one half or the other.

    Me, I'm simply running out of space. I either have to stop buying every box that comes out or get a bigger house. (Which, sadly, is not a realistic option.) I will probably pass on this one and hope that they issue one of the '70 shows separately.

  • Danehead
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    Box..

    The Alaska shows might be multi-tracks (or mixed-downs..), as they sound very good..

  • JimInMD
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    I'd be surprised if they offer another cassette mastered box and if they did I would not expect to see 81 through 83 included. The In and Out of the Garden Box (81 through 83 - cassette mastered) is still occupying shelf space at the warehouse.

    I'm up for whatever.

    The Hawaii 1970 concept is interesting though as it would have to be from the June shows. The Dave's Picks (19) pretty much cleaned out the January 1970 run. There is much mystery regarding the June shows as complete tapes do not circulate. I think Lemieux has played a song or three (at least I think he did). They'd likely be a Banana Box special, which really does hint to possibilities unknown.

    There are also copies of Betty Boards out there on the Archive were not part of the known ABCD cache. ABCD seems to have dried up or at least slowed down.

    It would be nice if the vault got a big ass FedEx box from a company named EFGH, LLC

    Or was it just a dream I dreamed.

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    October 74 yes yes yes
    Summer 85 yes yes yes

    From the ether comes a promo for ZappaMOI July 23 1968 at the Whisky.

    I listened/watched part of it. Pretty drecky.

    These days to me a little Zappa goes a long way

  • Obeah
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    Just want to say that I don't have a dog in this box set race. I'd be thrilled to add some more lovingly plangent-processed 1970 to my collection. But like so many, I also think it would be mighty fine to honor the 50th anniversary of an amazing year in GD history with a 1974 box set. And of course, with today being the anniversary of an amazing '85 show, I'd dearly love to see that one + 6/25, 6/28, 6/30, and 7/1/85 released (that 30 Trips release of 6/24 would round the week out nicely!)

    Goes to show you don't ever know...

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    Complete recordings of Winterland October 1974 run to celebrate the 50th anniversary!

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Dave's Picks Vol. 50: Palladium, New York City, NY 5/3/77

Reviewer: WolfmansBrother - favoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - February 11, 2008 - Online Review

Subject: setting me on fire

left the orchestra section during ship of fools and arrived in the loge for the basso profundo MNS - it's the best of the tour so far, i think, and the balcony is shakin' to its raging outro leading. i sit to take a short break, too.

yet another night of the first set seeming to spill over. first half of this second set is well-played, indeed, but the sugaree is the INSANE highlight, and keith and jerry are battling it out. one of the strongest estimateds of tour and i, for one, am happy for the FOTD break. the second half belongs to jerry - eyes is short but stellar and bridges to yet another rip-your-heart-out wharf rat, and NFA showcases some down in the weeds jamming. we're stomping and clapping and grinning our faces off, and then joint is jumping for sure as they close it down. another fine UJB encore sends me out the door, so very deeply in love with this band and its music. is there anything better than being a deadhead?

Is there anything better than being a Dead Head when one of your favorite shows is officially released in its entirety? We'll double down on your sentiments WolfmansBrother, with DAVE'S PICK VOLUME 50: PALLADIUM, NEW YORK CITY, NY 5/3/77, and we'll bring the fire extinguisher to cool you off after you listen to Betty Cantor-Jackson's complete recording. Don't want the party to end? We'll stoke those embers with a few hot tracks from the first set of  5/4/77. Dave's Picks Subscribers score the monstrous second set from 5/4/77 featuring "Scarlet>Fire,"  "Terrapin," 'Playing In The Band," "Comes A Time," and more. Woowee!

Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, this release has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. 

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Maybe Monday will be box-day..

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Still have that very first head shop pipe purchase as P.T. describes. The thick red vinyl sleeved stem is gone and replaced with a handy reel seat from when I worked at the fly rod factory. Gorgeous wood I had saved for the rod I would build someday but never got around to. Leaves that brassy smell on your fingers from handling like sorting pennies. The resin chamber is basically your back-up bowl too. Gets little use since I started making exotic hardwood "flip-it" pipes in the '80s. The kind you fold up to cover the bowl. Tiny little orthodontic rubber bands attached to small brads nailed in the sides hold it closed or open. Very easy to make too! Stole the concept from a guy who did custom van interiors BITD (thanks Allen) and had lots of extra bits of wild looking hardwoods. Still my go to travel pipes. And all this talk of hash has me drooling. Haven't seen any out west here in 20 years or more. Can they sell it in recreational shops? Likely too much labor involved to be worth it? Or did shatter take its place?
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When I saw that heading, I thought it was brass resonator, misspelt. I got all excited, thinking we were moving on to guitars. In which area, a brass resonator is like a rolls royce.

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....and I mean that in a good way and a bad way.
First of all, I will say that the sound at Sphere is impeccable. It comes from all directions. Hard to explain really, but wow.
The haptic seats were fun. Especially during drumz.
The sensory overload begins when you enter the lobby and just ramps up from there.
The screen? Jaw-dropping, but I will admit, by post-drumz it almost became too much. Hear me out. There is constant stimulation from all fronts for almost three hours. In your face, ears and body. I was a fan of the scenery shots though. Very cool. But I was numb by the end.
Now. The band. First set was really, really good. I'll take a West LA, Bertha and a Jack Straw all day. Second set was average imo except for drumz.
Long story short, the future is here re this building. I just don't know if I'm ready for it yet but I will say everyone should experience it at least once.
No psychedelics for me. Two gummies.
Also, ordered a double vodka mule. Fifty bucks. Shits expensive, but thats not just a Sphere thing really.
The Dead Experience at the Venetian was pretty neat as well.
Shifting gears, Trey Anastasio sat in with Billy Joel at MSG. 1st and 2nd place regarding number of times playing the Garden.
I would say Trey being there counts as 1.

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:)))

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Box announcement on June 25

A bunch of banana box 60s shows

Yeah, baby...just like that....

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....and I will paraphrase what that particular asshole said at Sunset Park. The Central Park of Vegas. "I don't care about YOU. I just want your votes."
And then went on rambling about ship batteries and shark attacks.
That's what happens when the teleprompters aren't working.
You get the real Deal.
No filter.

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we must have a casket party for the now (hopefully) departed "Hey Now" police. Hopefully these sensors have ridden off to the happy hunting ground.
A certain asshole who was in vegas over the weekend said, "I don't care about you..." if you didn't know that by now, you have been living in a tree for the last 8 years. The orange turd's teleprompter didn't work quite right, so he had to talk in "turd speak" which is simple phrases that made no sense. Of course his lemmings ate it up, being well versed in turd.

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...see and read how the faithful have returned after being frustrated
with RE CRAP TCHA...have been enjoying many of the posts and have had some really good laughs...keep'em coming everyone

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Caught Frank Vignola Birdland Trio this past weekend up in NH, truly wonderful, masterful jazz classics. They have a regular Wednesday night gig at Birdland in NYC. Arrived late, coming from reunion, so fortunate to score a front row seat next to pianist Ted Rosenthal's wife. Love those small local venues. Cautiously with Hey Now in the rear view, regarding politically tinged discourse, maybe the man from Delaware could borrow the baby blimp from the Museum of London, apply stain to the nappy and fly that freak flag high.

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Glad you went. I am still being pressured to go.

A few of questions. What level were your seats? Based on your comments and others, it seems like it is just as much or more of a movie as a concert. If so, it seems to me that being higher up would be better.

I also understand that it bright during the show. Is that correct?

Thanks for the feedback.

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....and yes. It got pretty bright in there.
Definitely different.

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There you go again, Billy, calling out a show that we were both at. I even have a mono audio recording of the show. Haven't listened to it in decades. This was the early days of my recording shows. Eventually I will dig it and upload it to the Archive. Was a lovely day as I recall.

I went thru the MSG Box and also the The Movie's sound track in past couple of weekends.

Listened to it while I had the Sphere's screen on my tv. Worked real nice!

Got HN trying to send 1stshow a link

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$60/ounce of blonde hash from late 70's - early 80's.

It was replaced with black tar heroin. Thank you local/federal govt for being the best baby sitter ever.

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check pm

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Cool show , cool venue. The Dead played there in 6//67. My brother saw Charlie Musslewhite play a gig there in 1969.

He is featured quite prominently in a great documentary that was on t.v. yesterday called "Born In Chicago". It's all about how young white musicians were inspired by the Chicago bluesmen in the early 1960's. Great clips - although cut and short - of performances by Elvin Bishop, Paul Butterfield, Mike Bloomfield etc -as well as brief films of Muddy, Wolf, Magic Sam etc. It would be great if you could get this on dvd, with uncut clips of all these people added on as extras.

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and Elvin Bishop are touring together. I've got a ticket down in front for 8/23.

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They played out here a couple of years ago and put on a great show. They put out a CD together called100 years of the Blues, , its really good.

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look up Mickey and the Hartbeats dates, if inclined

I know EB plays somewhere in there

Good to read that they are still gigging.
It's years since I listened to any those Micky and the Hartbeat shows. A bit strange, I always thought. If nothing else, they proved that they needed all their members to summon up the magic.

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Someone on the Steve Hoffman site said number 51 will be 9/26/91 Boston.. Thoughts anyone.. ?

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the set list looks good with a first set Candyman, Cumberland and Picasso and ends with a sweet Box of Rain. Of course the second set is where it's at with a Dark Star for the ages. Last And We Bid You Goodnite. I will enjoy this one, bring it on, ps Bruce is on fire as is Jerry,

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Not sure you will always have a reliable source there, but you never know.

Dicks #17 was the previous night.

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1991 Boston.

Someone needs to conjure up Sixtus.

Sixtus where art though?

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Say THAT 3 times...and Sixtus appears!!! GFar I hope All is well with you buddy!
its about time we got another Brucey show from 91!
And if it is 9/26, hooo-boy!

All of this bong discussion is fantastic. So back in college at UVM, freshman year, like others have described - my roommates and I made many bongs out of household goods. Tennis ball cylinders worked pretty well, and bic pen shells were essential for attaching the bowl. Our greatest feat however was when we collected as many 3-liter soda bottles as we could (remember those???). So we had probably like 20 of these 3-liters, and we cut the bottoms off of all but one, and then proceeded to stack them on top of each other and secure with duct tape at the base of each cut. what this turned into was about a 6-foot, slightly curved, twenty- 3-litre bottle bong that would require one person to light and the other people to pull on it. This thing would fill up and then you could hit off of it for a loooong time. Little did we know back then how stale that smoke can get but hey were were adventurous and stupid! Somehow our RA never caught us, but I don't recall that monstrosity sticking around for all that long but it sure was fun "inventing" it...

Be Well People!
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Lol, that’s what I thought I read (without glasses), which would be great, but 9/26/91 is just as good or better! Perhaps “one of” the last great shows?
But don’t forget 10/31/91!
Of course I’ll believes it when I sees it

Edit: “IF” HF’s theory of October 74 has any legs, it might explain a late box this year…

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Mmk

I love it

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Enjoying the palate cleansing discussions while we patiently wait for the next release.

Good to see Frank Vignola get some love. I had the pleasure of seeing him perform a couple times, once on Mountain Stage doing his Gypsie Jazz homage to Django Reinhardt and Stephane Grapelli (sharing the bill with Hot Tuna and Tommy Emanual no less). He plays with David Grisman sometimes also. Incredible guitarist, a musicians musician.

Elvin Bishop and Charlie Musselwhite.. They have come up on these forums before and for good cause, I have also seen them both perform but not together. I think I saw Musselwhite play with Hot Tuna on one of the Jorma's Birthday celebrations at the Beacon. Elvin Bishop - perhaps at my one and only trip to the Brooklyn Bowl. Legends.

1991 you say. Sounds about right, no Dave's PIcks from this decade and those shows from Boston 91 are representative of the era.

Celebrating the exile of the Hey Now Police? That's a party I would definitely attend. Ding Dong, the Hey Now Police are dead.

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Well before the current rumor, I was thinking Dave has to go to the post-Brent era for 51. If he went too much further without putting his name on one it would be...questionable. I was kind of hoping he would find one with just Vince one time, or just tell us he's not going to and why...

My two cents on the Half-Baked Alaska: I feel like its gonna be a fall box, assuming its a box of June shows, I'd like them in the Spring, I wish they would kind of keep the season in mind. I don't necessarily want a June box in October.

Edit: 3 more days till New Jerry! :)

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would love a release of that gem, actually, the entire 4 night stand at Oakland would be sweet, with all the guests.

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In case its not on your local radar, John Jorgenson (talk about a musicians musician, he's played with a lot of them) is coming to Cumberland MD July 18 with his bluegrass configuration, J2B2. Highly recommended, last time I saw him, he casually played the same note on four different strings up the neck in about one second. Jorgenson plays masterfully, mostly strings but is a mean clarinet too when jazzy. I will see him shortly after that show.

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A bong too big. (got one)

I used to tell the kids at the store (to paraphase parents of my youth), "your eyes were bigger than your lungs" :-)

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If you see this, things here are well. For the south, we are having an awesome spring. We hit the upper 50's for low tonight. That is crazy. Normally the big bathtub (gulf of mexico) already has us juicy by this time of year.

Hope all is well with you and I am sure your busy household!!! Be well and prosper as y'all have

G

I agree with Joey's point about releasing boxes to tie in with the season. I'm not to the day, but I usually play shows to coincide with the season we are in, and I get the impression from post on here that quite a few of us do this.

I feel confident Dave will put some just Vince shows out sometime.

Like Billy's logic on 52 being 1960's.

By that logic and possible future releases with that logic, I am guessing an all Vince release within 2 years.

Where be Bolo? Hope to see him around soon.

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been a long time since I listened to him.

Pondering, was he the first fast guitar player? Especially missing 2 fingers. Need to pull him out of vinyl collection. Only problem, still haven't hooked up the player...

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Another missed opportunity for Dave to tell us what the Box will be.

Get the Box out the door Dave and then get to work on the 2025, 60th anniversary, 30 Trips Around The Sun Part 2.

I like 9-26-91 and previously called for #51 to be a ‘91. Like others, 10-31-91 is on the priority list for release for me.
But if it came in an Oakland ‘91 Box that would be even better.

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I Predict the announcement will be on or before August 30th since this is the cut off date for inclusion in the 2025 Grammys. Let’s hope it’s sooner.

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....are usually on a Tuesday? I believe. Could be wrong. Wouldn't be the 1st time.
Definitely wouldn't be The Last Time.
I don't know.

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My GD dvd's will not play in my new dvd player. Everything else will play. What's the deal?

I ask the above question with much trepidation, because if this was done to make folks repurchase these items, which I did with the All The Year Combine dvd box. If this is the case, this organization should be absouletly ashamed of themselves

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