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    Dave's Picks Vol. 50: Palladium, New York City, NY 5/3/77

    Reviewer: WolfmansBrother - favoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - February 11, 2008 - Online Review

    Subject: setting me on fire

    left the orchestra section during ship of fools and arrived in the loge for the basso profundo MNS - it's the best of the tour so far, i think, and the balcony is shakin' to its raging outro leading. i sit to take a short break, too.

    yet another night of the first set seeming to spill over. first half of this second set is well-played, indeed, but the sugaree is the INSANE highlight, and keith and jerry are battling it out. one of the strongest estimateds of tour and i, for one, am happy for the FOTD break. the second half belongs to jerry - eyes is short but stellar and bridges to yet another rip-your-heart-out wharf rat, and NFA showcases some down in the weeds jamming. we're stomping and clapping and grinning our faces off, and then joint is jumping for sure as they close it down. another fine UJB encore sends me out the door, so very deeply in love with this band and its music. is there anything better than being a deadhead?

    Is there anything better than being a Dead Head when one of your favorite shows is officially released in its entirety? We'll double down on your sentiments WolfmansBrother, with DAVE'S PICK VOLUME 50: PALLADIUM, NEW YORK CITY, NY 5/3/77, and we'll bring the fire extinguisher to cool you off after you listen to Betty Cantor-Jackson's complete recording. Don't want the party to end? We'll stoke those embers with a few hot tracks from the first set of  5/4/77. Dave's Picks Subscribers score the monstrous second set from 5/4/77 featuring "Scarlet>Fire,"  "Terrapin," 'Playing In The Band," "Comes A Time," and more. Woowee!

    Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, this release has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. 

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  • Oroborous
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    Ahhh Berry interesting

    Jonathan, ok, now we’re getting good intel, I.e., video good but audio not.
    Check out both the audio settings on the DVD and the player, sounds like something not synced right. Also, try the ole hard boot: (with the volume down, ahem) pull the plug on the player…wait a minute, then plug back in, hey, EVERYTHING has micro processing now! Then turn volume up to check.
    Guessing a disc setting since your other discs are ok…?

  • billy the kiddd
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    2024 1969 Box Set

    10/31/69, 6/27 & 28 69 4/5 & 6/69, 5/30/69, makes for a mighty fine box set. Apparently Dave said they decide what these box sets are going to be 2 or 3 years in advance.

  • Gary Farseer
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    Been chillin

    or shopping for chillum

  • Gary Farseer
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    oops

    what oro and colin said, was away from computer a while.

    Bought 65" samsung 4k television on 2020-02-01, arrived that valentine's day. Covid hit and i am immunocompromised due to appendix rupture. So the tv still sits in its box waiting for a friend to come by and help me with it. Hopefully up and running within the next month. I bought it before i truly understood how the makers of tv always have to get to buy the next thing before the next thing is fully realized. Fortunately I got a steal(y) on it, tv, tax, and shipping was $625. Of course any warranty would be almost gone. So I might have an expensive 60 pound box in my house.

  • Gary Farseer
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    4k

    My understanding, and I haven't spent as much time on it as conekid, daverock, etc.

    4k has more to do with size. Isn't it always. That is when you have a 40" hdtv that is all you need is an hdtv. When you move to 55" - 85" (if there is one), you need 4k. When you move to a 90" or above you need 8k. That is, the larger the screen the more you need tight pixelization (new word?). They have been trying to push for 8k tv's for a couple of years now. But if you have a smaller screen you dont need more definition as it is baked in. There is but scant true 4k content and yet to date I have not seen an 8k production to date, but I am not looking much.

    So 35mm film can transfer to much lager screens. Forty something years ago I was working at a movie theater and they showed Raiders of the Lost Ark in 70mm. The film was shot in 70mm, one of few. The theater was the only 70mm theater in a 500 mile radius. We had tourists come to watch in 70mm, and I mean it ran for like 6 months. Tourist travel was shocking. Definition so good you can see Harrison Ford eat the fly in that scene. I can only imagine how good that movie will look in 4k and 8k.

    Mileage may vary, I aint no expert.

    Edit: forty something years ago

  • jonathan918@GD
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    Oh

    My GD Movie blu-ray and Giants box blu-ray, both play and sound fantastic!!

    Heres to hoping the Winterland 1974 stuff comes out someday

  • jonathan918@GD
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    Thank you

    Thanks for all the thoughts and info on dvd players. Really appreciate it.

    I was frustrated that all my dvd's played but my veiw from vaults would only produce picture but no sound. And strangely enough, when I hit fast foward it would play the audio at that speed??

    Anyhow, I understand some folks having a preference for something different in a dvd player, all though, admittedly, I don't know what!!!

    I'm lost on it, personally

    I guess my point is, to me, this is apperas to be a tatic to make folks repurchase things. Even though nothing is avalible but youtube, which has some decent audio but I would have liked the dvd's to work that I bought.

    Thanks again, gang

  • alvarhanso
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    4K again

    I figured the original source film might be adaptable to upscaling, but you'd have to find the master print. Somehow Criterion Collection found a much better print of Seven Samurai between their first DVD version and the 3 DVD version about 15 years later. That transfer was very much welcomed. I just wonder how many of the 4K transfers are finding master prints to put the work into. Sort of like Plangent has been used on a couple of Dave's if I'm not mistaken, and they probably needed it, if they went through the extra time and expense. But if they tried Plangent on a 4th generation Reel, it's akin to polishing a turd. I could see there being wildly mixed results. I'm okay with the dvds and BluRays I have of Lawrence of Arabia and other epics. If Terrence Malick movies look decent on my screen, I'm definitely good. Which reminds me, Malick released The Voyage of Time in 2016, and it's never had a physical media release in the US, so I had to order a German copy, and it did not play in my Region Free player, so had a buddy rip it for me. That made me think about getting yet another BluRay player. That cycle, she's vicious!

  • Oroborous
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    4K

    Like vinyl, digital etc, can be good IF done right.
    With 4K that means watching on a extra large screen, sitting closer than might be comfortable, and with all other gear with proper settings etc, AND, (this is the big caveat) with good, properly done source material!!
    8Ks even worse in that regard.
    For most folks and on the majority of TVs, in the “average” household viewing situation, they aren’t going to see a big, if even noticeable difference.
    But like anything else, if done properly on a big system it can be good.

    Edit: note, similar fuckery happens sometimes with High Res Music: they just copy lower resolution source to Hi res file, not cool Kyle, not cool!
    Always check the lineage/source when purchasing anything “upconverted” or legacy source material that’s rehashed on a higher resolution format!

    This is also one reason why many early CDs sound like crap and gave digital a bad name. They didn’t use the original higher res source masters, that and conversion (Analog to digital etc). Fortunately, digital, especially conversion and DACs have come a long way and if done right can be amazing!

  • Colin Gould
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    4K resolution

    Looking online 35mm film has an equivalent resolution of around 5.6k. So more than 4k. So 35mm and 70mm films, properly transferred, should look better on 4k screens and players than on standard Bluray. A problem with some ‘70’s programs/shows is that they were recorded direct to video tape which has inherently poor resolution. This is why programmes like ‘Mork and Mindy’ or ‘Soap’ look terrible on big screens. I have no first hand experience of this because I don’t have a 4k player or television but when my current kit dies I will certainly get them, unless 8k becomes more than a niche product.

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Dave's Picks Vol. 50: Palladium, New York City, NY 5/3/77

Reviewer: WolfmansBrother - favoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - February 11, 2008 - Online Review

Subject: setting me on fire

left the orchestra section during ship of fools and arrived in the loge for the basso profundo MNS - it's the best of the tour so far, i think, and the balcony is shakin' to its raging outro leading. i sit to take a short break, too.

yet another night of the first set seeming to spill over. first half of this second set is well-played, indeed, but the sugaree is the INSANE highlight, and keith and jerry are battling it out. one of the strongest estimateds of tour and i, for one, am happy for the FOTD break. the second half belongs to jerry - eyes is short but stellar and bridges to yet another rip-your-heart-out wharf rat, and NFA showcases some down in the weeds jamming. we're stomping and clapping and grinning our faces off, and then joint is jumping for sure as they close it down. another fine UJB encore sends me out the door, so very deeply in love with this band and its music. is there anything better than being a deadhead?

Is there anything better than being a Dead Head when one of your favorite shows is officially released in its entirety? We'll double down on your sentiments WolfmansBrother, with DAVE'S PICK VOLUME 50: PALLADIUM, NEW YORK CITY, NY 5/3/77, and we'll bring the fire extinguisher to cool you off after you listen to Betty Cantor-Jackson's complete recording. Don't want the party to end? We'll stoke those embers with a few hot tracks from the first set of  5/4/77. Dave's Picks Subscribers score the monstrous second set from 5/4/77 featuring "Scarlet>Fire,"  "Terrapin," 'Playing In The Band," "Comes A Time," and more. Woowee!

Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, this release has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. 

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Boston '91
MUATM 11/24/78

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Yeah I was there with my brother. It was a cool show . The Owsley release is well worth picking up , the recording quality is excellant.

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Fillmore West 1970.

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You can buy it right on Owsley's webesite, Bears Sonic Journal, its their latest release. Well worth it

That annoying Passaic guy is on all the 76/77 Passaic, NJ recordings I have heard.
Always trying to make the show about himself.

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Headed out west tomorrow to see my daughter. Father’s Day present is a shopping spree at Shakedown. Going to The Sphere on Thursday and Friday. I’ll let ya’ll know how it is.

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The greatest baseball player of all time. I was fortunate enough to have seen him play back in the 1960s. at Candle stick Park, even saw him hit a hone run.

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Yesterday the Govenor of Maryland pardoned 175,000 people for cannabis related convictions. A bfd for all those affected. How about that

BTK, another day, another show you went to that I wish I did. Somebody's got to be there, right?

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The reason I'm bolo24 and not some other number. Best I ever saw.

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In homage to Willie Mays, release Dap51

3 23 75 SNACK Willie showed up on stage
6 17 75

Stronger than Dirt!!!

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...of the Greatest to have ever played Hardball;
RIP Mr. Willie "the Say Hey Kid" Mays

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Bolo tell us about the box before they announce it soon. Thanks Jim for that note. Arrested for cannabis in Maryland about fifty years ago, happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time. Far as I can tell, no major effect on my life other than my parents were very pissed off for a while, criminal record and all that. No doubt, if I had been a person of color, very different, Juneteenth. The amount was small, the case was filed, expunged a year later. Picked up in DC around the same time for reefer, when the officer discovered I was friends with his sister in high school, we were let go. Saw Willy Mays play just once at the 1962 All Star Game at then brand new DC Stadium (where I would later see concerts and war protesters would be detained en masse). President Kennedy threw out the first pitch. I was nine years old and managed to snag autographs from Don Drysdale and Sandy Koufax, very impressed with pitchers.

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How many had the tape with the guy keeps yelling "St Stephen",,,, in a girl like pitch.

Seemed to be on several tapes from my youth.

Gotta love the loud talkers NEAR mics recording the shows!

...... at a show, then shut the fuck up.

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I didn't get to spend a whole lot of time with my dad's dad, who passed when I was about 10. But he did take me to a Giants game in (I think) 1966. Willie Mays hit a home run and even at that time I knew I was witnessing something I would always want to remember. And I do.

Willie was the greatest.

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Anybody remembers Allison? she made these obnoxious horse like yells and twirl her long, sweat filled hair in every direction; got hit a few times, unfortunately.

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Yes, I trademark of all live Dead shows. My favorite is when Bob told the crowd, stop yelling out songs we already played tonight.

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Sweet!

Cant wait for review. Happy shopping!

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Oh yes I remember. Stay away

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Cousins - there's a description of someone called Allison behaving exactly as you describe in the second Taping Compendium. I've just had a look, and it's on page 236 in an essay called "A Deadheads Journey To Egypt." Why I have remembered this, when I can't remember important stuff, I have no idea!

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I don't have the Compendiums anymore, but no doubt that has to be the same Allison; she "made it" on a few audience tapes.

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A very rare recording from 1973 of Gram Parsons & Emmylou Harris from a small club in Philly being released to CD & vinyl mid-July. Called “ The Last Roundup - Live From The Bijou Cafe In Philadelphia 3/16/73”, Gram recordings are as rare as they come, for those interested.

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Went to last Thurs/Fri D&C shows at Sphere. Among the finest D&C shows I've seen, the band seems to really be grooving on their residency there. The venue itself is amazing, this is the future folks, both the sound and visuals are simply stunning. If you haven't already made your mind up one way or the other, do yourself a favor and Go! If you're disappointed, you can blame me. But you won't.

First night we had floor/GA. Won the early entry lottery, camped out center stage about 3 to 4 rows back. Had all the substances (and then some), cold drinks, and an amazing time. John Mayer is rocking his ultra-Silver Sky PRS and weaving silky lines all night- and, thankfully he's removed those ridiculous headphones and gone back to in-ear monitors. Bob is in fine voice. Call me a heretic, but other than for nostalgic reasons I can't hear any difference between Billy and Jay Lane and I think the younger blood is actually a boost. Mickey remains a sage.

Second night we sat in 300 section. On the floor that close, the band is obviously the star and the Sphere the backing band. Up higher, you can't help but take in the totality of the production... and the sound is better. Down close you're hearing backline which is great but doesn't do the capabilities of the venue justice - the upper deck seat sound has got to be heard to be believed.

This was among the greatest concert experiences of my 55 year old, hundreds of shows-long life and I can't stop thinking about it. Until tomorrow that is, taking in The World's Greatest Rock and Roll Band at Mile High.

Last five:

Rolling Stones - 82 albums, 874 songs been on shuffle all day. Getting primed!
Van Halen - Diver Down
ZZ Top - One Foot in the Blues (excellent compilation)
AC/DC - Powerage
Little Feat - Dixie Chicken

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What a great place to see a band, another great place was JC Dobbs & I just have to mention Ripley's Music Hall. At one point in time Philly did have the places to be.

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It is very good. It was first released last year as a Record Store Day 2LP set.

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....thinking of going to another one.
Bender Jamboree announced here in September. String Cheese Incident, Umphreys McGee, Keller Williams, etc.
4 day event. However. Single day tix unavailable. Gotta buy a 4 day pass for $500. I hate shit like that.

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Thanks brother! Lotsa heads around town

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...Happy Summer Solstice!

I will be on my max tilt toward the sun today @ 4 : 50 P M

How about you...will you be tilting too?

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....the OG Hawkeye Pierce.
I read Donald, and I got a little excited (sorry).

Donald Sutherland was one of my favorite actors. As Vguy notes, he is Hawkeye Pierce to me, not Alan Alda. His cynical, sarcasm, and especially that whistle that George Clooney ripped off perfectly for The Fantastic Mr Fox, also a rapscallion of a character. He was almost always delightful in whatever he was in. One of my favorite small roles of his was as the drunkard mentor of Matthew McConaughey in A Time to Kill. Cold Mountain was a really good little part for him as Nicole Kidman's father. I loved that he wasn't above the absolute silliness of Beerfest, either.

*Hawkeye whistle*

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Wow.

A bunch of years ago I saw him in a restaurant in Seattle called Rays. "Wow. That's Donald Sutherland."

At the moment I am sitting at a viewpoint by Puget Sound. I read the news of Sutherland's passing. The place I saw him is one block away. I can see it from here.

Twilight Zone music

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Why don't you knock it off with them negative waves? Why don't you dig how beautiful it is out here? Why don't you say something righteous and hopeful for a change?

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One of my favorite Sutherland parts.
Great quote Dennis, as said to Moriarty (?), the tank mechanic played by Gavin McCloud.
Cheers to DS

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The first film that popped into my head on hearing of Donald Sutherland's passing was "Don't Look Now" with Julie Christie.

And Say Hey! Think I missed him. Getting hard to keep up : (
Favorite DS scene: Animal House (GOAT LOL), when he gets the nerds high for the first time.

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