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Dave's Picks Vol. 50: Palladium, New York City, NY 5/3/77

Reviewer: WolfmansBrother - favoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - February 11, 2008 - Online Review

Subject: setting me on fire

left the orchestra section during ship of fools and arrived in the loge for the basso profundo MNS - it's the best of the tour so far, i think, and the balcony is shakin' to its raging outro leading. i sit to take a short break, too.

yet another night of the first set seeming to spill over. first half of this second set is well-played, indeed, but the sugaree is the INSANE highlight, and keith and jerry are battling it out. one of the strongest estimateds of tour and i, for one, am happy for the FOTD break. the second half belongs to jerry - eyes is short but stellar and bridges to yet another rip-your-heart-out wharf rat, and NFA showcases some down in the weeds jamming. we're stomping and clapping and grinning our faces off, and then joint is jumping for sure as they close it down. another fine UJB encore sends me out the door, so very deeply in love with this band and its music. is there anything better than being a deadhead?

Is there anything better than being a Dead Head when one of your favorite shows is officially released in its entirety? We'll double down on your sentiments WolfmansBrother, with DAVE'S PICK VOLUME 50: PALLADIUM, NEW YORK CITY, NY 5/3/77, and we'll bring the fire extinguisher to cool you off after you listen to Betty Cantor-Jackson's complete recording. Don't want the party to end? We'll stoke those embers with a few hot tracks from the first set of 5/4/77. Dave's Picks Subscribers score the monstrous second set from 5/4/77 featuring "Scarlet>Fire," "Terrapin," 'Playing In The Band," "Comes A Time," and more. Woowee!

Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, this release has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering.

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July 17, 2024 - 1:19am

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DaP #51 info on your DaP subscription order page

I won't spoil it. If you want to know, go to your DaP 2024 order confirmation email from last year and click on the order number. That will take you to the CHECK ORDER page. Enter the order number, your email, and zip code and you'll see a receipt with all the details.
July 16, 2024 - 8:11pm

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Amazon Prime Dayz....

....ooooh. A Klipsch R-120SW subwoofer for $240?
Sign me up.
July 16, 2024 - 6:01pm

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proudfoot

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A punk band I forgot to list

China White

Their album Danger Zone ROCKS

X is categorized as punk, but I just call 'em rock n roll
July 16, 2024 - 5:04pm

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My punk dayz....

....finally getting around to organizing my record collection. Quite the task. I have over 300 records going back to my teenage days and just starting getting back into them as you know.
Holy flashback Batman. Stumbled across some T.S.O.L., Cramps, Misfits, Corrosion Of Conformity, Agent Orange and Subhumans records I bought decades ago. They still hold up.
According to discogs, some of the Misfits records I own are worth a pretty penny. Not that I would ever sell them.
July 16, 2024 - 3:00pm

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Nyuk Nyuk Yuk

The Stooges (the ones with Iggy, not Larry and Curly) loomed over punk in the US in a huge way, too. It was almost impossible to go to a punk gig in 1977 and not hear at least one Stooges cover. (My own proto punk band played I'm Loose and No Fun. Very poorly!) The Stooges and the Velvet Underground and the NY Dolls were really the foundation, along with the '60s garage bands.

And btw, there was a fair amount of give and take in those early days between punk and various brands of psychedelia, including the Dead. Punks were supposed to hate hippies, but in reality we were often on the same drugs and disliked a lot of the same things. Greg Ginn of Black Flag was a big deadhead, for instance. Also, my LSD connection was a hippie neighbor who one day shaved his long hair and 'went punk.' after a gig by X. Lee Renaldo of Sonic Youth was a deadhead, lots of others.
July 16, 2024 - 2:47pm

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70's punk- The Stooges

Iggy and The Stooges were massively influential in England during the second half of the 70's. In some ways, as Chuck Berry was to the 60's, they were to the 70's. Starting with Nick Kent's article in the NME in 1972 about their legendary show at Kings Cross, in London, to Raw Power the following year and the discovery of their first two albums. Their tracks, No Fun and 1970 were covered The Sex Pistols and The Damned, among others, but nobody came close really.
When Iggy finally toured England, in 1977, it was one of the most eagerly anticipated rock events I have ever witnessed. Unfortunately - despite having David Bowie on keyboards - his moment had clearly passed. Still good - but not quite what he had been.

The New York Dolls were important too. appearing on the rock programme "The Old Grey Whistle Test" circa 1973. After a blistering and shambolic "Jet Boy" and "Looking For A Kiss" they were put down by a visibly bemused, and slightly miffed Bob Harris as "mock rock". The 1970's were taking shape!
July 16, 2024 - 2:38pm

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Gummies...

It just (duh) dawned on me where all the extra glue bits came from on the HCS box CDs
July 16, 2024 - 2:30pm

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Gary Farseer

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Hey Dave!!!

Listened to Dave's#40 - Deer Creek this past weekend. Even though I had listened to it several times, it really floored me. Nice Pick Indeed! Some great playing and the recording Dan captured is top notch.

I was much more in the active listener mode instead groove pilot.
July 16, 2024 - 2:00pm

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Crow

Great write-up. Especially for someone like me that was on a different musical direction. Always admired the Ramones for what they did and their history. What playing the Roundhouse in London in 1976? And more importantly, from my perspective, they never strayed to far from their charter.

Did I see the NYDolls in their, cant remember.

So for me, who has never been in a mosh pit, it was very enlightening!!!

Now how much will I remember? That has become the question.
July 16, 2024 - 1:26pm

#80

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What's It To Ya, Punk?

Seventies punk is kind of an obsession for me, partly because it was maybe the only key moment in rock history that I had a mosh pit view of. I was around for a lot of the earliest gigs by LA area bands like X, Black Flag, Social D, and I saw the West Coast club debuts of everybody from Patti to Television, the Damned, Clash etc. Fun times!

So I would say that when people first started using the term "punk" to describe what was happening, it was because they were referring to the way a bunch of scruffy upstart bands who were rebelling against the corporate rock status quo of the mid-'70s and trying to overthrow the established order, even though they didn't seem to have the wherewithal (ie, money, connections, looks etc) to do it. I think "punk" being used in the way it was used in gangster noir movies: the "punk" is the small time hood with big ambitions who is almost certainly doomed to be crushed by the mob, the police, the power structure.

It wasn't really a musical style. Which is why that first wave of "punk" included artists as diverse as Patti, Television, Talking Heads, Deco, Pete Ubu, Suicide, and yes, the Ramones. I think what happened, as Daverock said, is that the Ramones offered a blueprint of what "punk rock" sounded like, and it was one that was easily copied, even by people who'd never picked up a guitar until yesterday. If you liked the Ramones, you could get together a couple friends, learn three chords, and start a band. And dozens and dozens (if not hundreds) did. Suddenly there was lots of bands that sounded like that in every town, and that was taken to be what "punk" was.

About Television specifically: I personally think they took too long to record, and as a result we missed out on hearing the earliest version of the band, when Richard Hell was still a member and when they sounded a lot more raw and basic in a way we associate with punk. If you're curious, look up the Ork Loft recordings, a video made in 1974, and you'll see what I mean. That's what they sounded like when they'd been together for about a year. They did some demos with Eno after Hell left the band in December ''74, which are a lot more polished. And then they didn't record their Elektra album till September 1976. By which time they were one the tightest bands you'll ever hear, and not much like what we think of as "punk."

Anyway. I would recommend hearing EVERYTHING Television ever did. Marquee Moon is a stone classic, the follow up, Adventure, much under-rated, and the live boots and Eno demos are all really good too. Even the reunion stuff is worth hearing.

Sorry for the long post. I warned you I was kind of obsessed with this stuff.

And, hey, Dave, where's that announcement?

John Perry Barlow

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Dave's Picks Vol. 50: Palladium, New York City, NY 5/3/77

Reviewer: WolfmansBrother - favoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - February 11, 2008 - Online Review

Subject: setting me on fire

left the orchestra section during ship of fools and arrived in the loge for the basso profundo MNS - it's the best of the tour so far, i think, and the balcony is shakin' to its raging outro leading. i sit to take a short break, too.

yet another night of the first set seeming to spill over. first half of this second set is well-played, indeed, but the sugaree is the INSANE highlight, and keith and jerry are battling it out. one of the strongest estimateds of tour and i, for one, am happy for the FOTD break. the second half belongs to jerry - eyes is short but stellar and bridges to yet another rip-your-heart-out wharf rat, and NFA showcases some down in the weeds jamming. we're stomping and clapping and grinning our faces off, and then joint is jumping for sure as they close it down. another fine UJB encore sends me out the door, so very deeply in love with this band and its music. is there anything better than being a deadhead?

Is there anything better than being a Dead Head when one of your favorite shows is officially released in its entirety? We'll double down on your sentiments WolfmansBrother, with DAVE'S PICK VOLUME 50: PALLADIUM, NEW YORK CITY, NY 5/3/77, and we'll bring the fire extinguisher to cool you off after you listen to Betty Cantor-Jackson's complete recording. Don't want the party to end? We'll stoke those embers with a few hot tracks from the first set of 5/4/77. Dave's Picks Subscribers score the monstrous second set from 5/4/77 featuring "Scarlet>Fire," "Terrapin," 'Playing In The Band," "Comes A Time," and more. Woowee!

Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, this release has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering.

Boxset '24

Boston '91
MUATM 11/24/78

Proud foot. 4/25/81. Sing out for Sight

Yeah I was there with my brother. It was a cool show . The Owsley release is well worth picking up , the recording quality is excellant.

Box set 2024

Fillmore West 1970.

Simonrob

Thanks for letting us know!

The disc I inherited of 4 25 81 says (MTX)

Matrix I assume

It won't play on my tune boxes or in my car

Special equipment needed?

A pleasant surprise of a show

Proud foot. 4/25/81

You can buy it right on Owsley's webesite, Bears Sonic Journal, its their latest release. Well worth it

I archive listened today

I will check out Owsley's site

Fillmore West 1970 box....

....if dead.net/rhino wants a sold out in three days, that is how you do it.

Ayaayyaaayyaaayaaa

That annoying Passaic guy is on all the 76/77 Passaic, NJ recordings I have heard.
Always trying to make the show about himself.

Hockey soundtrack

Think I’ll spin some vinyl tonight while hockey is on but with the sound muted.

Vegas Bound

Headed out west tomorrow to see my daughter. Father’s Day present is a shopping spree at Shakedown. Going to The Sphere on Thursday and Friday. I’ll let ya’ll know how it is.

I am sticking with

June 25th as box announcement day

MUATM will be announced first full week of July

Time will tell

R.I.P. Willie Mays

The greatest baseball player of all time. I was fortunate enough to have seen him play back in the 1960s. at Candle stick Park, even saw him hit a hone run.

.

I was just watching a video yesterday....

....of some of the best baseball catches ever. They were all grate, but Mays was the one that ended up getting a nickname.
RIP

Off Topic

(or is it)

Yesterday the Govenor of Maryland pardoned 175,000 people for cannabis related convictions. A bfd for all those affected. How about that

BTK, another day, another show you went to that I wish I did. Somebody's got to be there, right?

A raise of the glass to willie mays

A legend

RIP Willie Mays

The reason I'm bolo24 and not some other number. Best I ever saw.

So it takes the passing of a legend

to hear from Bolo

Very interesting...

Mays!

In homage to Willie Mays, release Dap51

3 23 75 SNACK Willie showed up on stage
6 17 75

Stronger than Dirt!!!

one...

...of the Greatest to have ever played Hardball;
RIP Mr. Willie "the Say Hey Kid" Mays

Maryland Forgiveness, Willy Mays, Juneteenth

Bolo tell us about the box before they announce it soon. Thanks Jim for that note. Arrested for cannabis in Maryland about fifty years ago, happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time. Far as I can tell, no major effect on my life other than my parents were very pissed off for a while, criminal record and all that. No doubt, if I had been a person of color, very different, Juneteenth. The amount was small, the case was filed, expunged a year later. Picked up in DC around the same time for reefer, when the officer discovered I was friends with his sister in high school, we were let go. Saw Willy Mays play just once at the 1962 All Star Game at then brand new DC Stadium (where I would later see concerts and war protesters would be detained en masse). President Kennedy threw out the first pitch. I was nine years old and managed to snag autographs from Don Drysdale and Sandy Koufax, very impressed with pitchers.

Old Yellers on Tapes

How many had the tape with the guy keeps yelling "St Stephen",,,, in a girl like pitch.

Seemed to be on several tapes from my youth.

Gotta love the loud talkers NEAR mics recording the shows!

...... at a show, then shut the fuck up.

Say Hey

I didn't get to spend a whole lot of time with my dad's dad, who passed when I was about 10. But he did take me to a Giants game in (I think) 1966. Willie Mays hit a home run and even at that time I knew I was witnessing something I would always want to remember. And I do.

Willie was the greatest.

Bay Area Yeller

Anybody remembers Allison? she made these obnoxious horse like yells and twirl her long, sweat filled hair in every direction; got hit a few times, unfortunately.

The Yellers

Yes, I trademark of all live Dead shows. My favorite is when Bob told the crowd, stop yelling out songs we already played tonight.

Marley - Man

Sweet!

Cant wait for review. Happy shopping!

Yeller

Oh yes I remember. Stay away

Bay Area Yeller

Cousins - there's a description of someone called Allison behaving exactly as you describe in the second Taping Compendium. I've just had a look, and it's on page 236 in an essay called "A Deadheads Journey To Egypt." Why I have remembered this, when I can't remember important stuff, I have no idea!

@Dave - Yeller

I don't have the Compendiums anymore, but no doubt that has to be the same Allison; she "made it" on a few audience tapes.

Gram Parsons

A very rare recording from 1973 of Gram Parsons & Emmylou Harris from a small club in Philly being released to CD & vinyl mid-July. Called “ The Last Roundup - Live From The Bijou Cafe In Philadelphia 3/16/73”, Gram recordings are as rare as they come, for those interested.

D & Sphere

Went to last Thurs/Fri D&C shows at Sphere. Among the finest D&C shows I've seen, the band seems to really be grooving on their residency there. The venue itself is amazing, this is the future folks, both the sound and visuals are simply stunning. If you haven't already made your mind up one way or the other, do yourself a favor and Go! If you're disappointed, you can blame me. But you won't.

First night we had floor/GA. Won the early entry lottery, camped out center stage about 3 to 4 rows back. Had all the substances (and then some), cold drinks, and an amazing time. John Mayer is rocking his ultra-Silver Sky PRS and weaving silky lines all night- and, thankfully he's removed those ridiculous headphones and gone back to in-ear monitors. Bob is in fine voice. Call me a heretic, but other than for nostalgic reasons I can't hear any difference between Billy and Jay Lane and I think the younger blood is actually a boost. Mickey remains a sage.

Second night we sat in 300 section. On the floor that close, the band is obviously the star and the Sphere the backing band. Up higher, you can't help but take in the totality of the production... and the sound is better. Down close you're hearing backline which is great but doesn't do the capabilities of the venue justice - the upper deck seat sound has got to be heard to be believed.

This was among the greatest concert experiences of my 55 year old, hundreds of shows-long life and I can't stop thinking about it. Until tomorrow that is, taking in The World's Greatest Rock and Roll Band at Mile High.

Last five:

Rolling Stones - 82 albums, 874 songs been on shuffle all day. Getting primed!
Van Halen - Diver Down
ZZ Top - One Foot in the Blues (excellent compilation)
AC/DC - Powerage
Little Feat - Dixie Chicken

\m/

The Bijou

What a great place to see a band, another great place was JC Dobbs & I just have to mention Ripley's Music Hall. At one point in time Philly did have the places to be.

That Mike and Gram

Thanks for the heads up. Ordered. Should be a good one.

The Last Roundup

It is very good. It was first released last year as a Record Store Day 2LP set.

"At the risk of repetition"

Where's the box set?

And MUATM?

psychedelicized minds want to know

Coworker is a huge Mayer fan....

....thinking of going to another one.
Bender Jamboree announced here in September. String Cheese Incident, Umphreys McGee, Keller Williams, etc.
4 day event. However. Single day tix unavailable. Gotta buy a 4 day pass for $500. I hate shit like that.

Gary

Thanks brother! Lotsa heads around town

BTW...

...Happy Summer Solstice!

I will be on my max tilt toward the sun today @ 4 : 50 P M

How about you...will you be tilting too?

The Dead Experience at The Venetian....

....don't forget to check that out. 🍻

50

I am playing it again...

RIP Donald Sutherland....

....the OG Hawkeye Pierce.
I read Donald, and I got a little excited (sorry).

RIP Oddball

Donald Sutherland was one of my favorite actors. As Vguy notes, he is Hawkeye Pierce to me, not Alan Alda. His cynical, sarcasm, and especially that whistle that George Clooney ripped off perfectly for The Fantastic Mr Fox, also a rapscallion of a character. He was almost always delightful in whatever he was in. One of my favorite small roles of his was as the drunkard mentor of Matthew McConaughey in A Time to Kill. Cold Mountain was a really good little part for him as Nicole Kidman's father. I loved that he wasn't above the absolute silliness of Beerfest, either.

*Hawkeye whistle*

Donald Sutherland??

Wow.

A bunch of years ago I saw him in a restaurant in Seattle called Rays. "Wow. That's Donald Sutherland."

At the moment I am sitting at a viewpoint by Puget Sound. I read the news of Sutherland's passing. The place I saw him is one block away. I can see it from here.

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