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    Dave's Picks Vol. 50: Palladium, New York City, NY 5/3/77

    Reviewer: WolfmansBrother - favoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - February 11, 2008 - Online Review

    Subject: setting me on fire

    left the orchestra section during ship of fools and arrived in the loge for the basso profundo MNS - it's the best of the tour so far, i think, and the balcony is shakin' to its raging outro leading. i sit to take a short break, too.

    yet another night of the first set seeming to spill over. first half of this second set is well-played, indeed, but the sugaree is the INSANE highlight, and keith and jerry are battling it out. one of the strongest estimateds of tour and i, for one, am happy for the FOTD break. the second half belongs to jerry - eyes is short but stellar and bridges to yet another rip-your-heart-out wharf rat, and NFA showcases some down in the weeds jamming. we're stomping and clapping and grinning our faces off, and then joint is jumping for sure as they close it down. another fine UJB encore sends me out the door, so very deeply in love with this band and its music. is there anything better than being a deadhead?

    Is there anything better than being a Dead Head when one of your favorite shows is officially released in its entirety? We'll double down on your sentiments WolfmansBrother, with DAVE'S PICK VOLUME 50: PALLADIUM, NEW YORK CITY, NY 5/3/77, and we'll bring the fire extinguisher to cool you off after you listen to Betty Cantor-Jackson's complete recording. Don't want the party to end? We'll stoke those embers with a few hot tracks from the first set of  5/4/77. Dave's Picks Subscribers score the monstrous second set from 5/4/77 featuring "Scarlet>Fire,"  "Terrapin," 'Playing In The Band," "Comes A Time," and more. Woowee!

    Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, this release has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. 

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  • alvarhanso
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    All the years combine

    And melt into a dream, but like daverock, I like more of the single year boxes. Even if it means lower distinct song count, and more of a monotonous sound if on repeated listens. Sometimes the difference between tours is enough of a demarcation point for me to strongly prefer the sound of one over the other, such as Spring '77 vs Fall '77. Fall '72 vs Summer '72. Differences between years are often more jarring, usually due to recording and equipment differences, but also musically. Pigpen to Brent in one box, with no Keith would be massively jarring. For multi-year boxes, I lean more toward the '72 shows in Listen to the River, the '89 shows in Giants Stadium, and enjoy the PacNW shows pretty evenly. 30 Trips doesn't count, I was getting that no matter what, plus, it encompasses all years, save 1965. Give me a central focus for a box, and I'm much happier. That's my view on it, anyway.

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    I've never really thought about that before - but on reflection, the boxes that span different years don't really hold up as box sets for me. Both The St. Louis and North Pacific ones feature great shows - but I have never played them in the order they are presented since the first time I played them. I still hear each years shows in the context of other shows from that year - not in the context of other shows in the box they are released in.

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    Yippie Kaiyeh Billy!

    I totally agree with the Kidd about a box of some 1969 Oregon shows. I've even seen a bootleg on line somewhere of a show they did in St. Hellens of all places! That venue was even more far out of town {PdXs} than Springer's Inn was, to which was also a good Down Load Series {#2, Jan. 18, 1970} release.

  • nappyrags
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    Hiya Folks...

    Both tonight and tomorrow' night's Tedeschi Trucks Band's shows from Berkeley will be streamed on nugs...some fun...

  • uncle_tripel
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    consistency & unified...

    ...remember folks that is any box's requirement from TPTB:

    DL: We wanted it to sound sonically unified, which means if we had a PA DAT from1993 — very good shows in ‘93 that maybe someday would be released — but they just sonically wouldn’t quite hold up to the same level of the ‘87, ‘89 and ’91. Plus, ...sonic unification that all sounds good; similar to the way the Pacific Northwest sounded very similar because the recordings were made by the same recordists with the same techniques and the same equipment. Now, if we put in some Pacific Northwest, let’s say ‘77, into that box it wouldn’t have sounded at all the same because we would have also had Betty [Cantor] recordings in there, too. That was kind of how that ended up going.

    I can't believe the rumor of mixing '70 GOGD w/ '80, nah...shaking my head, can't happen

  • billy the kiddd
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    5/30 & 31 /69. Oregon Dead/ 1969 box set

    These two shows would make a nice release, or part of a larger 1969 box set. Throw in April Avalon Ballroom, 6/27 & 28 /69, 10/31/69, Ark shows, and you would have a great 1969 box set.. There might also be some great 1969 tapes in those banana boxes.

  • daverock
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    Is this board rigged too?

    Might be. The truth will be revealed about the box later this year. Hopefully before November.

  • Vguy72
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    Hey Not!....

    ....good one.
    Alaska would make a good mini-box in my opinion.
    But I've been pounding that drum here for a decade. 🍻

  • wissinomingdeadhead
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    What's up with that?

  • dmcvt
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    70/80 box?

    Seems a bizarre hybrid to me, for all the pounding on the primal drum. Will consult my local shaman. Among today's most important announcements, tickets for The Rolling Stones at Thunder Ridge only $800 before tax and booking fees and no doubt the site preservation fund and special FX. Things that make you go hhmmmm, but that's my first Phish over in MA. Hey Now. Now delving into my first dip of Electric on the Eel. Tasty.

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Dave's Picks Vol. 50: Palladium, New York City, NY 5/3/77

Reviewer: WolfmansBrother - favoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - February 11, 2008 - Online Review

Subject: setting me on fire

left the orchestra section during ship of fools and arrived in the loge for the basso profundo MNS - it's the best of the tour so far, i think, and the balcony is shakin' to its raging outro leading. i sit to take a short break, too.

yet another night of the first set seeming to spill over. first half of this second set is well-played, indeed, but the sugaree is the INSANE highlight, and keith and jerry are battling it out. one of the strongest estimateds of tour and i, for one, am happy for the FOTD break. the second half belongs to jerry - eyes is short but stellar and bridges to yet another rip-your-heart-out wharf rat, and NFA showcases some down in the weeds jamming. we're stomping and clapping and grinning our faces off, and then joint is jumping for sure as they close it down. another fine UJB encore sends me out the door, so very deeply in love with this band and its music. is there anything better than being a deadhead?

Is there anything better than being a Dead Head when one of your favorite shows is officially released in its entirety? We'll double down on your sentiments WolfmansBrother, with DAVE'S PICK VOLUME 50: PALLADIUM, NEW YORK CITY, NY 5/3/77, and we'll bring the fire extinguisher to cool you off after you listen to Betty Cantor-Jackson's complete recording. Don't want the party to end? We'll stoke those embers with a few hot tracks from the first set of  5/4/77. Dave's Picks Subscribers score the monstrous second set from 5/4/77 featuring "Scarlet>Fire,"  "Terrapin," 'Playing In The Band," "Comes A Time," and more. Woowee!

Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, this release has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. 

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Boston '91
MUATM 11/24/78

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Yeah I was there with my brother. It was a cool show . The Owsley release is well worth picking up , the recording quality is excellant.

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Fillmore West 1970.

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You can buy it right on Owsley's webesite, Bears Sonic Journal, its their latest release. Well worth it

That annoying Passaic guy is on all the 76/77 Passaic, NJ recordings I have heard.
Always trying to make the show about himself.

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Headed out west tomorrow to see my daughter. Father’s Day present is a shopping spree at Shakedown. Going to The Sphere on Thursday and Friday. I’ll let ya’ll know how it is.

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The greatest baseball player of all time. I was fortunate enough to have seen him play back in the 1960s. at Candle stick Park, even saw him hit a hone run.

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Yesterday the Govenor of Maryland pardoned 175,000 people for cannabis related convictions. A bfd for all those affected. How about that

BTK, another day, another show you went to that I wish I did. Somebody's got to be there, right?

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The reason I'm bolo24 and not some other number. Best I ever saw.

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In homage to Willie Mays, release Dap51

3 23 75 SNACK Willie showed up on stage
6 17 75

Stronger than Dirt!!!

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...of the Greatest to have ever played Hardball;
RIP Mr. Willie "the Say Hey Kid" Mays

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Bolo tell us about the box before they announce it soon. Thanks Jim for that note. Arrested for cannabis in Maryland about fifty years ago, happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time. Far as I can tell, no major effect on my life other than my parents were very pissed off for a while, criminal record and all that. No doubt, if I had been a person of color, very different, Juneteenth. The amount was small, the case was filed, expunged a year later. Picked up in DC around the same time for reefer, when the officer discovered I was friends with his sister in high school, we were let go. Saw Willy Mays play just once at the 1962 All Star Game at then brand new DC Stadium (where I would later see concerts and war protesters would be detained en masse). President Kennedy threw out the first pitch. I was nine years old and managed to snag autographs from Don Drysdale and Sandy Koufax, very impressed with pitchers.

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How many had the tape with the guy keeps yelling "St Stephen",,,, in a girl like pitch.

Seemed to be on several tapes from my youth.

Gotta love the loud talkers NEAR mics recording the shows!

...... at a show, then shut the fuck up.

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I didn't get to spend a whole lot of time with my dad's dad, who passed when I was about 10. But he did take me to a Giants game in (I think) 1966. Willie Mays hit a home run and even at that time I knew I was witnessing something I would always want to remember. And I do.

Willie was the greatest.

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Anybody remembers Allison? she made these obnoxious horse like yells and twirl her long, sweat filled hair in every direction; got hit a few times, unfortunately.

Yes, I trademark of all live Dead shows. My favorite is when Bob told the crowd, stop yelling out songs we already played tonight.

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Sweet!

Cant wait for review. Happy shopping!

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Oh yes I remember. Stay away

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Cousins - there's a description of someone called Allison behaving exactly as you describe in the second Taping Compendium. I've just had a look, and it's on page 236 in an essay called "A Deadheads Journey To Egypt." Why I have remembered this, when I can't remember important stuff, I have no idea!

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I don't have the Compendiums anymore, but no doubt that has to be the same Allison; she "made it" on a few audience tapes.

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A very rare recording from 1973 of Gram Parsons & Emmylou Harris from a small club in Philly being released to CD & vinyl mid-July. Called “ The Last Roundup - Live From The Bijou Cafe In Philadelphia 3/16/73”, Gram recordings are as rare as they come, for those interested.

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Went to last Thurs/Fri D&C shows at Sphere. Among the finest D&C shows I've seen, the band seems to really be grooving on their residency there. The venue itself is amazing, this is the future folks, both the sound and visuals are simply stunning. If you haven't already made your mind up one way or the other, do yourself a favor and Go! If you're disappointed, you can blame me. But you won't.

First night we had floor/GA. Won the early entry lottery, camped out center stage about 3 to 4 rows back. Had all the substances (and then some), cold drinks, and an amazing time. John Mayer is rocking his ultra-Silver Sky PRS and weaving silky lines all night- and, thankfully he's removed those ridiculous headphones and gone back to in-ear monitors. Bob is in fine voice. Call me a heretic, but other than for nostalgic reasons I can't hear any difference between Billy and Jay Lane and I think the younger blood is actually a boost. Mickey remains a sage.

Second night we sat in 300 section. On the floor that close, the band is obviously the star and the Sphere the backing band. Up higher, you can't help but take in the totality of the production... and the sound is better. Down close you're hearing backline which is great but doesn't do the capabilities of the venue justice - the upper deck seat sound has got to be heard to be believed.

This was among the greatest concert experiences of my 55 year old, hundreds of shows-long life and I can't stop thinking about it. Until tomorrow that is, taking in The World's Greatest Rock and Roll Band at Mile High.

Last five:

Rolling Stones - 82 albums, 874 songs been on shuffle all day. Getting primed!
Van Halen - Diver Down
ZZ Top - One Foot in the Blues (excellent compilation)
AC/DC - Powerage
Little Feat - Dixie Chicken

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What a great place to see a band, another great place was JC Dobbs & I just have to mention Ripley's Music Hall. At one point in time Philly did have the places to be.

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It is very good. It was first released last year as a Record Store Day 2LP set.

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....thinking of going to another one.
Bender Jamboree announced here in September. String Cheese Incident, Umphreys McGee, Keller Williams, etc.
4 day event. However. Single day tix unavailable. Gotta buy a 4 day pass for $500. I hate shit like that.

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Thanks brother! Lotsa heads around town

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...Happy Summer Solstice!

I will be on my max tilt toward the sun today @ 4 : 50 P M

How about you...will you be tilting too?

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....the OG Hawkeye Pierce.
I read Donald, and I got a little excited (sorry).

Donald Sutherland was one of my favorite actors. As Vguy notes, he is Hawkeye Pierce to me, not Alan Alda. His cynical, sarcasm, and especially that whistle that George Clooney ripped off perfectly for The Fantastic Mr Fox, also a rapscallion of a character. He was almost always delightful in whatever he was in. One of my favorite small roles of his was as the drunkard mentor of Matthew McConaughey in A Time to Kill. Cold Mountain was a really good little part for him as Nicole Kidman's father. I loved that he wasn't above the absolute silliness of Beerfest, either.

*Hawkeye whistle*

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Wow.

A bunch of years ago I saw him in a restaurant in Seattle called Rays. "Wow. That's Donald Sutherland."

At the moment I am sitting at a viewpoint by Puget Sound. I read the news of Sutherland's passing. The place I saw him is one block away. I can see it from here.

Twilight Zone music

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Why don't you knock it off with them negative waves? Why don't you dig how beautiful it is out here? Why don't you say something righteous and hopeful for a change?

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One of my favorite Sutherland parts.
Great quote Dennis, as said to Moriarty (?), the tank mechanic played by Gavin McCloud.
Cheers to DS

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The first film that popped into my head on hearing of Donald Sutherland's passing was "Don't Look Now" with Julie Christie.

And Say Hey! Think I missed him. Getting hard to keep up : (
Favorite DS scene: Animal House (GOAT LOL), when he gets the nerds high for the first time.

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