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    Dave's Picks Vol. 50: Palladium, New York City, NY 5/3/77

    Reviewer: WolfmansBrother - favoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - February 11, 2008 - Online Review

    Subject: setting me on fire

    left the orchestra section during ship of fools and arrived in the loge for the basso profundo MNS - it's the best of the tour so far, i think, and the balcony is shakin' to its raging outro leading. i sit to take a short break, too.

    yet another night of the first set seeming to spill over. first half of this second set is well-played, indeed, but the sugaree is the INSANE highlight, and keith and jerry are battling it out. one of the strongest estimateds of tour and i, for one, am happy for the FOTD break. the second half belongs to jerry - eyes is short but stellar and bridges to yet another rip-your-heart-out wharf rat, and NFA showcases some down in the weeds jamming. we're stomping and clapping and grinning our faces off, and then joint is jumping for sure as they close it down. another fine UJB encore sends me out the door, so very deeply in love with this band and its music. is there anything better than being a deadhead?

    Is there anything better than being a Dead Head when one of your favorite shows is officially released in its entirety? We'll double down on your sentiments WolfmansBrother, with DAVE'S PICK VOLUME 50: PALLADIUM, NEW YORK CITY, NY 5/3/77, and we'll bring the fire extinguisher to cool you off after you listen to Betty Cantor-Jackson's complete recording. Don't want the party to end? We'll stoke those embers with a few hot tracks from the first set of  5/4/77. Dave's Picks Subscribers score the monstrous second set from 5/4/77 featuring "Scarlet>Fire,"  "Terrapin," 'Playing In The Band," "Comes A Time," and more. Woowee!

    Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, this release has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. 

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  • Noah's Great Rainbow
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    Goes to show, you dont ever know

    Hoy Nhow fix would take no time, little money. In my old job, projects frozen, budget resources reallocated? Seen this before, right before sell out. No idea if im right. Something doesnt make sense round these parts....Just hope the new overlords show us mercy, should my uneducated guess be correct. Or I will just wait till the dust clears...and the ducks are all lined up. The music is all that matters to me in the end.

  • Sixtus_
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    Like all things, it is reasonable to expect an evolution of musical presentation with venues like Sphere. The fact that bands want to try to do things a little differently, to bring another facet to their music is pretty intriguing IMHO. The tech hadn't existed until now, and even now, there will be varying degrees of how it is used, what a vision may be for the future, etc. It does seem to be a marvel in its own right, but with discerning Deadheads (and Phisheads) it is understandable why there is such a fervor of opinions and criticality as well as outright love and adoration. It's because we all put so much of ourselves and our expectations into this music because we are forever pursuing that happiness, that edge of the cliff that brings the thrill of the unknown. This venue allows people to take hold of that expectation - or not - depending on what each of our preferences may be. For those who love to close the eyes and groove out to the music with the inner visuals, that's great; for those who want to take in the incredible offerings of the video, it's there to absorb in all its glory. At a minimum, the sound is really supposed to be top notch from every corner, so there shouldn't be many complaints there. At the end of the day, it all comes down to individual expectations and how each of the attendees opens themselves to possibilities. Still would be interesting to hear of anyone's first hand impressions at the venue but I know we'll get VGuy's feedback before too long.

    As an aside, I'm spinning DaP18 (17JULY76) and am reminded just how incredible that Comes A Time turned out. It's the most lovely piece of work on that song I've ever heard.

    Do Carry On,
    Seventy-Sixtus

    P.S. Thx 1stShow for setting me straight on my 17's vs. 18's

  • Dennis
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    What the hell, try one more.

    I've been sorting and labeling a massive amount of Allman Brothers shows, so I get to listen to quite a few chunks of "things".

    I have to say, in my opinion, far and away their best song is In Memory of Elizabeth Reed.

    God I love this tune.

  • Dennis
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    Since that one worked!

    I wonder about the sound at the sphere.

    So far I've only heard how it sounds via a cell phone!

    Hard to imagine a focused sound from so high up.

    They claim all seats sound great!?!

    I too like to hear from an attendee.

  • Dennis
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    I agree with people who talk about video being a distraction. Some of the video is VERY nice, but I don't want to think about the images, I want to think about the music. I too listened to a lot of shows without opening my eyes.

    I like to see some dynamic, moving tie dye patterns. Swirling patterns that suck you into another dimension.

    did it work?

  • icecrmcnkd
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    Hey now test

    Result of test is that the word ‘ W I n g s’
    is still banned.

    Must be that Rhino has something against Paul McCartney.

  • JimInMD
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    I will add that many posts that are negative of the Sphere were let through yet a positive comment gets hey nowed for absolutely no reason. Are these archival releases more important than what's going on now? Rhino, you appear to have weighed in or at least made decisions through the source code in your web site that weighed in.

    So are we to believe rhino is not in support the current dead 'tour' at the current venue? A residency where the revenue to the band likely dwarfs the revenue from these recordings? (not that I want releases to go away, I have supported them since One From The Vault and have not missed a single one)

    Is this opposite day or something? There is something seriously amiss here, where the negative gets through and the positive gets snuffed.

    How about not taking sides and not censoring unless things go horribly astray, and the rules agree to the terms we agree to when set up our accounts?

    (did I make it on the next GD bulletin email yet?)

    Edit: And a kind message to MaryE. I did save the hey nowed post, word for word.. which I suspect Proudfoot might not have. Who thinks to save such things after being thoroughly frustrated?

  • JimInMD
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    My opinion on this venue just got Hey Nowed here and now, but it let me post this rebuttal. This only serves to.. , well it serves nothing.

    It was a benign, tasteful post (or so I thought). Positive and in support of both the band and the venue/concept.

    But someone at Rhino or more specifically some piece of mysterious source code decided it was not to be read. Come on.... seriously? This particular issue and the revenue implications might just exceed the revenue implications of a $35 per show Dave's Picks series. And the fact that a loyal fan cannot write to support the current 'tour' at the current venue on dead_net is a joke.

    Wake up Rhino.

    Let's see if this post makes it in the next GD Bulletin. I'm not going to hold my breath.

  • JimInMD
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    Thanks MaryE

    ..all that assumes the PM doesn't get heynowed.

    I have been lucky the past few days as I have been able to post but I feel I am the lucky one.

    I suggest they scrap the whole thing or at the very least change the format. I think I speak for most that a) they have defamed the lyric of Aiko Aiko and if it were an Ice Nice lyric hunter would stalk us all in his grave and b) It's a ridiculous system because the rules are not known to seemingly anyone. At the very least, get rid of the flag Hey Now. It is forever ruined as a moniker.

    Just scrap it and bring a new, better way to protect us besides stupid censorship.

    This is in no way meant towards you, you are a reverend godmother of us unworthy souls and we appreciate everything you do.

    For example, I am quite sure I have been denied simply for using the words Hey Now.

    (Understanding this post made it through, they must be relaxing the rules somewhat. If this has been fixed and this is all moot I sincerely apologize)

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    Send me a PM and explain what's going on because I agree it shouldn't be happening but here we are so let's try to figure out a fix till the real one comes along. Thanks and so sorry for all the trouble you're having.
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Dave's Picks Vol. 50: Palladium, New York City, NY 5/3/77

Reviewer: WolfmansBrother - favoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - February 11, 2008 - Online Review

Subject: setting me on fire

left the orchestra section during ship of fools and arrived in the loge for the basso profundo MNS - it's the best of the tour so far, i think, and the balcony is shakin' to its raging outro leading. i sit to take a short break, too.

yet another night of the first set seeming to spill over. first half of this second set is well-played, indeed, but the sugaree is the INSANE highlight, and keith and jerry are battling it out. one of the strongest estimateds of tour and i, for one, am happy for the FOTD break. the second half belongs to jerry - eyes is short but stellar and bridges to yet another rip-your-heart-out wharf rat, and NFA showcases some down in the weeds jamming. we're stomping and clapping and grinning our faces off, and then joint is jumping for sure as they close it down. another fine UJB encore sends me out the door, so very deeply in love with this band and its music. is there anything better than being a deadhead?

Is there anything better than being a Dead Head when one of your favorite shows is officially released in its entirety? We'll double down on your sentiments WolfmansBrother, with DAVE'S PICK VOLUME 50: PALLADIUM, NEW YORK CITY, NY 5/3/77, and we'll bring the fire extinguisher to cool you off after you listen to Betty Cantor-Jackson's complete recording. Don't want the party to end? We'll stoke those embers with a few hot tracks from the first set of  5/4/77. Dave's Picks Subscribers score the monstrous second set from 5/4/77 featuring "Scarlet>Fire,"  "Terrapin," 'Playing In The Band," "Comes A Time," and more. Woowee!

Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, this release has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. 

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On the Hoffman site someone posted a fun thing; a poster (dont know if it is fake..) from Hawaii, june 1970. It clearly states; "the shows will be recorded for future albums" (!).. So this must be multi-tracks..

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That poster shows that the Grateful Dead, Quicksilver Messenger Service and the New Riders played at the Honolulu Civic Auditorium on June 12 and 13, 1970 but two lists of concerts at the Honolulu Civic Auditorium that I found differ in what they say. One source shows that the Dead played there on both days but only has a setlist for June 13. The other source shows that the Dead and Quicksilver played on the 13th but no mention of the 12th. That source also shows that Steve Miller and the New Riders played there on June 16. All I know for certain is that Quicksilver played the Honolulu Civic Auditorium on the 13th (as shown on the poster) as I have a CD of their performance - and it is a legit release at that.

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I'm would think a few watch it, but ARS this week they had a women whose brother collected concert posters. He would send Bill Graham 3 bucks (?) and postage and he would mail out posters. These were 1st pressing deals. She had 47 of them from the Fillmore shows in the late 60's. All in all about 40K worth of posters,,,, the experts said a Hendrix one was worth the most (The Flying Eyeball?),,,, about 6K.

Anyone else buy posters from the Fillmore back in the day?

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Simonrob - that one has slipped through my net completely. I'll have a dig round later. I have all sorts of live recordings by them, often the same one twice with a different label on the can. But this is a new one on me, so cheers!

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It is called simply "Hawaii 1970" and was on the UK label Gonzo Multimedia. I just looked on their website and it was no longer listed there. It was released in 2014. I guess you'll just have to dig around.

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Happened upon the second set
Nice

Many have expressed Spring 77 fatigue

"Inconceivable!"

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Dave Rock
This album appears on Amazon UK. It isn’t available on cd and clicking on vinyl displays an entirely different album. It appears to be streamable on Prime although initial attempts show an error message. Clicking on the track titles does let them play. I do subscribe to Amazon Prime Music so that might be why I can play it.

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Madness at its most insane fineness!

Edit: and game 7 tonight!
🤞that’s all I’m gonna say…
What evs goes down, just hope it’s at least a good game,though historic would be better ; )

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How 'bout Sara IN a toga?

1984 needs more love. Lots of goodies in there.

Greeks
Ventura
Plus a whole lot more

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....in da house.
The second disc plastic holding thing came busted, otherwise, the album sounds grate!
Saving Reno for later.

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Simorob and Colin - thanks for the tips about this album. I think I may be able to play this through Amazon Prime, too, although I have never done it before. I saw the cd for sale for £196.00! I might be enthusiastic - but I'm not that enthusiastic.

Hits on the cosmic jukebox this week -

"HMS Donovan" by Donovan - despite featuring one of the most embarrassingly awful songs ( The Pee Song) I have ever heard in my life
"Travelling The Great Circle" - and incredible box set by Ozric Tentacles. All they play are space jams, and have been doing so since 1984. They simply never came down. And still haven't. This box features arguably their 4 best albums, plus much more, with incredible sound quality.

U.S. Blues always sounds great to me in 1974 shows, but a bit throwaway after that

I'm just messing around a little... :)
I feel like we're going to be waiting a while longer.

I got a new phone and found an old phone number for deadnet, I called it and its definitely not deadnet anymore, lol.
Some senior citizen rip-off line. :(

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Got my copy of the reissue yesterday. The remastered studio album sounds great! Much much much better than my ancient vinyl copy, which is great because I feel like I can finally appreciate all the weird little things they did to fill out those 32 tracks. Lots of interesting sonic doodads (is that a backwards cowbell) lurking in there.

The live show? Well, I've only listened to about 2/3rds of the first disc but I thought the audio was kind of disappointing, given that it was touted as being "pristine." It's one of those where the levels are being tweaked as we go so that vocals rise and fall in the mix, and if Weir's guitar was plugged in I couldn't hear it. Interesting to listen to, still, if only because Keith is so well audible and he's really playing well. And Garcia is really taking some chances. But the audio's not great, especially for WoS era show. IMO and all the usual disclaimers. Still glad to have it.

The studio album I've always liked, even if it is a relatively slick version of the what the Dead were about. Clearly, they were trying to make a record that radio would like, and that has its plusses and minuses. Like the studio version of Scarlet is wonderful, great energy, really propulsive rhythm playing by, well, everyone. And it's concise enough to get played on radio. But it's also frustrating in a way, because you really want the song to open up and breathe the way it did live, and it's always disappoints me (still!) that it just fades out immediately after that calypso riff at the end comes in. But US Blues really benefits from this "short and sweet" approach, and Lucy and Money are similarly rocking if also similarly misogynistic (tho pretty much everybody was in rock world of '74).

And China Doll is just a fucking miracle. Just sounds otherworldly in this pristine (ha ha) recording: Garcia's incredibly weird solo, those ghostly backing vocals. Wow.

I'm figuring the Half Baked box will be announced any minute now. Probably happened while I was typing this.

Last five, because why not?

Coltrane: Meditations (the quartet version)
GOGD: Mars Hotel
TTB: Crescent (from I am the Moon)
Little Feat: Feats Don't Fail reissue (similar to Mars, studio album sounds great, live bonus material not so much)
Brahms Symphony 1 (a Phil favorite!)

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GQ/John Mayer and Mickey Hart of Dead & Company Talk About Their Big, Strange Sphere Trip—and the Future of the Band

Just got an email from realgone. They have Dick's Volume 28, 1973; and Dick's Vol 32, 1982 back in stock. I grabbed the 1982 Alpine Valley show. I have missed the last few times they got it in stock. So I am very glad to see it and grab it. Only 3 Dick's short, hopefully complete soon.

Would add more to this post, but I already forgot what I was just reading on this board. Losing memory can be a good thing "Officer I don't remember." Cheers to all!

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Who remembers these very important numbers?
1-800-CAL-DEAD {(800) 225-3323}
PO Box X
Novato Ca. 94948
Back when the Deal was run by Deadheads not some overseas call center.

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From Nugs - A few nights back Pearl Jam was playing in Seattle. They did a tribute to Bill Walton. Weird to see Mr. Walton on their video screen wearing a big Grateful Dead shirt.

From Nugs - Phish's Live Bait 21 looks awesome!

From Live Sounds International an article with picture of Widespread Panic onstage titled " You Shall Not (All) Pass?
Detailing a subwoofer approach to attain horizontal uniformity for a festival stage."
By Michael Lawrence

Got me some reading to do.

Also been over at GD at blogspot. Reading a lot of great stuff. Have known about them for a long time. But really interesting to read articles like 1967 Human Be-In; which of course Bolo with his mother in tow ran across. Let me know if you see this Bolo and I have spoken truth or not.

Cheers again.

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"Now the Shorelines Beckon: Hawaii/Alaska '70 '80 ! Primo!

I am just not buying it...and this statement of mine has multiple meanings : )

It just seems like there are many better options at this point in the game...

Whatever GD that exists in the vault from

1967
1968
1969

A whole BUNCH of that

A mix of 70 and 80?

Ok

That stuff from the 60s and Greek shows are better options

I truly think that if that material exists in the vault it would have been released by now.

Hawaii and Alaska?

While I don't NEED it, I certainly WANT it.

Are you for real, LMG? Or are you trying to play my greedy mind?

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According to a recent post on Hoffman forum, data coded in html has been entered into the new releases section here on this site, showing Now the Shorelines Beckon box details. Yes, can only agree, a primal box, 67, 68, first half 69. What are they waiting for?

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Here’s the rumor from a few weeks ago:

Pretty reliable source over the years claims the next box is the following and will be announced in a few weeks:

"Now the Shorelines Beckon.." 13 CD Box Set
6/12/1970 - Honolulu Civic Auditorium, Honolulu, HI (previously uncirculated)
6/13/1970 - Honolulu Civic Auditorium, Honolulu, HI
6/19/1980 - West High Auditorium, Anchorage, AK
6/20/1980 - West High Auditorium, Anchorage, AK
6/21/1980 - West High Auditorium, Anchorage, AK

maple, May 29, 2024

Got Hey Now’d with the first attempt, made a few edits and will try again.
Hey Now’d on 2nd attempt.

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Have you seen the box LMG?

Who is the reliable source Conekid?

Why the hell would they make us all wait this long for a 13 CD Box Set.

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I don’t know the source, I just copied that from the Hoffman forum.

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reddit

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com/r/gratefuldead/comments

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Piece that back together.

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…They do a sweet ‘ Alabama getaway’ in Alaska, one of my all time favorite performances! Sweet sweaty & sublime! Been waiting & wanting this run for a long time for the Alaska performances to be released! I also believe that the 70’ performances are a Gold Mine!

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5-15-80% GTN playing now.

I split GTN up by date on my music player.

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....family is out, so I get to crank the big boy. Currently on China Rider.
Wasn't this the show where it was extremely windy and the sound was going everywhere? I recall reading about it.
Never mind. The band just mentioned the wind in between Rider and El Paso....El Paso!!!! Yay!
Idk Crow. Sounds mighty fine to me.
There was a strange warble during Sugaree, but otherwise chugging right along.
'74 China Riders are so, so good. Check out Phils vox during the sun in my backdoor verse. Tasty.
It's officially baseball season. Checks in on the Marlins. Disregard. It's officially Frisbee season.

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Well.. it looks like it will be the "Halaska" box for 2024.. Sadly I just paid about 100.000, dollars in extra-taxes - so no box for Danehead this year (one has to behave like an adult sometimes..) - hope it will be a good one.. BW from sunny Copenhagen

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I wish that they would have released 3 1980 acoustic/electric shows from the Warfield Theatre, and 3 1970 acoustic/electric shows from the Fillmore West,but it is what it is.

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With these predictions, is not always easy to spot who knows what they are talking about, and who just likes to look as though they know what they are talking about. In life generally, most people fall into the second category.

40 years ago today I was at Wembley to see The Stones. Ably supported by a loose limbed Black Uhuru and George Thorogood and the Destroyers. The Stones set was released as part of the "Tattoo You " box set that came out a year or two ago. Top banana. Although, unlike with Dead sets, they don't make it clear which night is included. "Chantilly Lace" is included on the cd, and I don't remember them playing that when I saw them. And believe me, I would if they had.

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Thanks for the heads up on Phish Live Bait,,, I was surprised I missed getting 20 when it came out, but 20 & 21 down. Hard to beat FREE! Great sounding, got Maze playing right now.

Also too saw and bought the Dicks (28 & 32) from Real Gone Music. Boy they know how to move product, bought yesterday in mail today! Guess Jeff Bozo taught them well :-)

I like the idea of the two new states getting a box. Never matters to me what the box is, I'll take what they dish out.

No further words from Experience on 2/11/69 vinyl. Not happy about Experience, they seem to sell stuff that hasn't even been pressed yet (ordered back in Feburary!)

I'd say saylavee, but I can't spell it.

Enjoy

PS - listening to Live Bait,,,, they did My Friend, My Friend to the music of Little Drummer Boy. Wild or Odd?

I went back to my emails for the PacNW '73-'74 box set (since it was announced later in the year than last year's box) but I couldn't find the email w/ the announcement. I preordered in June 2018 but there's a post on dead.net about the box that seems to be dated May 8th. Release date was Sept 7th.

Separately: I went digging within an hour of that reddit post about "Shorelines Beckon" (using both page source view and Chrome inspector) but I was unable to find any of that HTML in the new releases page. Hmmm. Probably doesn't mean anything. But it would be the work of a minute to fake that screenshot...

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Interesting stuff. What is Chrome Inspector? You guys definitely know a lot more than me.

The LTTR Box was announced in July and released in October, so there is definitely precedent for fall releases, however, they are typically larger box sets.

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