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marye

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Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.

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August 7, 2020 - 2:26pm

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Oroborous

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Conekid

Lmao, you brought back many memories! Most are funny now but at the time....yeah, sometimes the hard way is the only way to learn! So Remember kids what fat Freddy says: getting drunk THEN stoned is like pissing in the wind! 3/13/81 anyone! Lol.
Especially enjoyed the “cause I had a job“ and the calling in sick from a pay phone!
Missed a few top shelf shows because of some BS job, like 7/19/89, 4/9/89, and had to do the pay phone thing several times. Forget what the trick was but there was a way to have the call go through normal without the boss knowing it was LD. Of course the hard part was getting up at the right time and finding a quiet pay phone to call in at just the right time!

Oh, and big thanks to GOGD for that awesome 2012 Dave video! Between that and his wish list from back then it’s interesting what’s been released and of course what hasn’t been but might...
August 7, 2020 - 11:53am

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icecrmcnkd

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7-21,22-90

My 3rd and 4th shows. Like a fool I didn’t go on the 23rd because I had a job. Which I missed that day anyway and had to call in ‘sick’ from a pay phone at a rest area on I-57 north of Kankakee.

On the 21st I was just outside the gate when the music started. They had pulled closed tall chain link gates because people were trying to sneak in. So we were standing there, with legit tickets, waiting to get in. Finally got in and had to squeeze in on the lawn.
Traffic was a disaster that day, complete traffic jam on I-80. I know someone who, along with hundreds of other cars, just parked on the shoulder of I-80 and ran to the venue. I think that the closure of I-80 that day, along with other problems, is why it had to be Soldier Field from then on.

Jim, your description of me is accurate, except that was 7-17-89, where I drank beer all day in the hot sun, but wasn’t old enough to buy beer inside. Didn’t eat enough food, had some paper, lost my friends, didn’t drink enough water, then about lost it when Jerry played a few notes of Close Encounters Theme during Space. But everything came back together during Gimme Some Lovin.
Awesome initiation and learning experience for me, being by myself at my 2nd show and having too much too fast. Memories......
August 7, 2020 - 11:28am

#6253

The Good Ole G…

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Legendary Shows

Upon re-listening to these Radio City shows from 10/30 & 10/31 they are definitely a couple of high-profile gigs that the GD really lived up too.

Having known bits and pieces of these two shows from essentially the beginning of my tape collecting days, I've always wanted to listen to them in their entirety as an experience.

I remember collecting both runs from the Warfield & Radio City and being bummed that there weren't complete SBD sources available, sound quality varied tremendously between shows and tapes and that it was a real pain in the ass trying to determine what existed and what didn't and the best versions etc.

Not sure if I sat down and listened to them after I got all the shows as I was burnt out by that time. But this latest re-listen was really cool.

I'd read an article with Betty recently about the editing process of Dead Set and that planted the seed to go back and check it out, so I started with the remaster of that album. Props to Betty, she really could pick the best takes on songs the band played during a run. The Dark Star from Live Dead is a great example. It's always Betar with Betty! Dead Set was in heavy rotation in my early collecting days, it was the best sound quality & closest thing to current live Dead we could get BITD, so we played that album, and Dead Ahead VHS tape ALL THE TIME in high school. And I love those versions of these songs.

I followed up Dead Set with the full recording including sketches of 10/31 on Wednesday and then 10/30 yesterday. I decided to Watch set 3, the first half released as bonus material on Dead Ahead remaster and the 2nd part available on YouTube (thanks JimInMD & DeadVikes for the reminder). Man if you haven't checked it out, DO! You gotta see Drums with Billy Cobham to get the full effect, it's awesome, Kreutzmann is freaking out.

Really enjoyed that whole trip and these are some really solid shows, 3 full sets each night and the last two nights of this legendary tour of historic halls never to be repeated again. It might not be the Dead at their best, but it's the best Dead we have, so dig it. 10/30/80 On The Road Again is the definitive version and Jerry's call and response gets me every time.

Listening to the opening of 10/31 you can imagine the tension as the band deals with technical difficulties when they hit the stage and are filming a live TV Simulcast (A first at the time?, rare for sure). I mean this is 40 years ago, I know what happened and I was still feeling nervous for them as Phil's gear squawks and squeaked. And what happens? Epic versions of Heaven Help The Fool & Sage & Spirit (last time for each?) that's the magic right there! That's the stuff I love.

Highly recommend a couple of supplemental videos, the famous Press Conference for these shows (I guess it's you and me bub, I mean Bob), and Bob & Jerry's appearance on GMA, they're both a real treat and they really set the shows up in the proper context.

Alright, lots of good stuff here. Thanks for tripping with me, this has been on my to do list for awhile, and I really enjoyed it.

Who here saw these shows? Stories?

OB: Thanks for the Meyer Sound webinar tip, looking forward to checking that out.

As for pick today, take your pick! Catch up on 10/30 & 10/31 if you haven't already, Listen to DaP V35 if you have it already, or there's the DiP V31 stuff BobT pointed out, which is epic. And we got the final Shakedown Stream tonight of 7/21/90. Wowee.

Happy Friday All!
August 7, 2020 - 10:08am

#6254

Oroborous

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If you get confused just listen to the music play

10/30/80 awesome, have never listened to any of these complete shows. Great for working, nice long shows too, must of been awesome to have been there! Looking forward to 10/31 today, and of course SS this evening. Oh, and don’t forget the Meyer Sound webinar about their history with the dead going all the way back to the wall of sound before there was a Meyers sound! It really is a great time to be a DH.
August 7, 2020 - 9:54am

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bob t

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Shakedown stream Tinley Park

Best tickets I ever got from mail order was this run. I was in grad school in Illinois, we got 5th row, 3rd row and 10th row for the 3 days right in front of Bob. I feel bad for the person behind us because my friend i went with was 6' 4"!!! bob t
August 7, 2020 - 9:37am

#6256

JimInMD

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Shakedown Stream

I blocked out the time to enjoy it.

I think we can pick BobT and Cone Kid out from the crowd.. BobT is the guy hanging on the sharp-wired fence getting stern looks from Bobby. Cone Kid is the one walking lost and aimlessly through the crowd with the rainbow colored ice cream cone that seemingly never melts..
August 7, 2020 - 9:01am

#6257

DeadVikes

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Shakedown Stream

Looking forward to the last Shakedown Stream. Conekid and Bob t, you guys were there. That is great. Maybe we will see you all in the crowd.

Who has a pick for today?
August 7, 2020 - 8:13am

#6258

bob t

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Icecrmcnkd-

I was at all 3 also.... I have great pictures from the next night!!! Looking forward to tonight's show.... Birdsong is 16 minutes!!! bob t
August 6, 2020 - 6:16pm

#6259

icecrmcnkd

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Awesome

Shakedown Stream tomorrow is 7-21-90.
I was there.
August 6, 2020 - 10:24am

#6260

DeadVikes

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Dick'31

Kicks ass. Of course would love the full shows, but the music is outstanding on 31.

GOGD, yes, that was the source I checked out yesterday. 10/31 appears to be the same deal. Love the bonus tracks on Dead Ahead.

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Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.

68 and Loud

I completely agree.

On occasion and if I'm not careful volume gets the best of me. One day I might live to regret this. Thankfully, that day was not today.

A new one for me. Some sound weirdness especially in and around banter, but what the hey.

I don't know what it is, but I have soft spot for The Eleven, Born Cross-Eyed and especially New Potatoe Caboose. Good show with some vintage grease to end the night with me feeling a little dirtier than I did when I woke up.

If there's no pick for tomorrow, I suggest the next in line. It's a partial, starts with a rare Clementine. 1/20/68 Euraka Municipal Auditorium. I think we should set up a go fund me to find all the missing reels, there's a couple missing from this show. It would be something for them to be found.

4/30/88 at the Frost

Hey Jim, I know you have had a lot on you plate this year. Thanks for checking this one out. Yes, the recording is decent, not great. Like a lot of 88 recordings out there. Still think they have some good ones in the Vault.

I liked the show, anytime I see a Hey Pocky Way, I am in. Nice Shakedown to open the second set. Love the triple Encore with China Rider OMSN.

It is good to get out of the comfort zone once in a while Doc.

Carousel Ballroom 68, okay Jim, Ok will have to que it up this morning.

Enjoy the weekend out there.

Edit. Oh and after the carousel ballroom I will be moving on the 12/9/79, Dave's Picks #47. Love this one and I need some 79. If I had the keys, I would be putting out a big 79 Box.

Lewiston, for your consideration

44 years ago today, there when Roy Buchanan along with Levon and His All Stars opened for the Dead. My last in person show, on the bus since their first album, however things had changed so much.... Doc was there, a wild late summer scene, part of my farewell to Maine.

All is worthwhile if the soul is not small.....

Hey rockers!!

Yes, we were there and had a blast. Beautiful day and tremendous music. A very fine show by the Dead, one of my all-timefavorite in-person Dead experiences.

Would make a solide offical release. It is worthy......

Doc
Everything I did in my life that was worthwhile, I caught hell for.....

All is worthwhile if the soul is not small.....

Hey rockers!!

Yes, we were there and had a blast. Beautiful day and tremendous music. A very fine show by the Dead, one of my all-time favorite in-person Dead experiences.

Would make a solid official release. It is worthy......

Doc
Everything I did in my life that was worthwhile, I caught hell for.....

9/6/80

Hey DMCVT,

Love this show and will get it going again this weekend.

And yes, it would make a great releasen.

Pretty sweet you and Doc were there.

9/6/80 Lewiston

I'm in - hopefully sometime this weekend I can transport my mind and spirit into late summer beautiful day/evening Maine. Sounds like a dream show and setting. Very cool that a couple of you guys got to be there. Didn't realize this was the last show before the Warfield run. Long and heartfelt write up on grateful seconds (he was there). Comment at the end from a guy who was 8 at the time and lived a "bike trail" away from the fairgrounds. Listened to part of the show from his clubhouse. Rode his bike over and snuck in. Totally dug the Drums. Made major bank (for a kid) collecting cans and bottles for deposit afterwards (which is exactly what 8 yr old me would have done.) Think I might travel John Deere with the Jim Wise FOB.

Been Gone

But back this week. I can do Lewiston again.

As I recall there is not a good soundboard that circulates, right? And the one that does is first set only and it sure does sound like an audience (or ultramatrix on steroids at least).

High energy though.. like Gainesville, there must have been something in the water.

You have to wonder if this was recorded and if so where the hell are the master tapes? I think someone (Parrish??) tossed out the language that some of the master reels were left on the seat and when the truck pulled away they must have flown out the window or something.

I'd love to see more reels (and cassettes) returned.

Anyway, Lewiston Me for me tomorrow.

Edit: Started tonight - why not? Gave up on the "soundboard" and settled on the Jim Wise same as Bluecrow. Good news, Bluecrow.. The John Deere Broke down and was sitting in the yard for the last half of the week. I got it working today. Had to replace the solenoid. Damned electronics are always interfering with time travel. Just imagine if this broke back in time before Jebediah Solenoid created the first working model for riding mowers.. we would have been screwed.. I mean, nothing wrong with being stuck in 1980 but why not go back another 10 to 15 years...

High energy is right. Pretty good audience.

Follow-Up

While I was in the neighborhood, I took a quickie with 11/28/80 Lakeland Civic Center - Lakeland, FL (30 Trips).

I figured why not.. most enjoyable, especially To Lay Me Down. Not sure why I like that song so much, but I do.

More 1980

Ah, yes, more 1980. You don't have to twist my arm. A shorter show for the time period, but still really good. Will get it going after I finish up Dicks #36, which was mentioned on some other threads. Such a great show, but apparently didn't sell well at the time. No idea why.

My Favorite Non-Multi-Track 1980 Release

Random Musing - 1980

My favorite non-multi-track 1980 release has got to be Dave's # 8, 11/30/80 Fox Theater. Love how that Matrix worked out. If anyone remembers the seaside chat, he was spot on.

Crowd noise was not as big an issue in 1980 as they could play in some pretty intimate venues. Also, as the age of the cassette master replaced the lovely Ms. Cantor Jackson, a lot of those early soundboards are a bit sterile sounding without the crystalline highs and the booming lows. Blending those early 80's soundboards with one of those near perfect audience masters works. When they aged out of the smaller, cooler venues (thinking after Jerry's coma and In The Dark) audience tapes had to compete with hundreds of the guy next to you screaming "JERRY!!" at 95 decibels, this was no longer possible.

That SBD/Dr. Bob matrix is almost exactly perfect (or as good we are going to get for the time).

On the opposite side of the same coin, I think some of the Ultra Matrix's have a bit too much of the guy yelling JERRY! then I sometimes want to hear. Thinking a lot of 87 suffers from this, and by then the audience tapes were no better.

Anyway, if Mr. Norman can pull of similar wizardry I wish they would do more like DaP#8.

Being that it’s the anniversary

9-16-90 playing now.

Wonder what the Black Friday RSD release will be.

Music comes from a place we don't know...........

Mornin', rockers!!!

Pick of the day? September 24, 1972. Because..............Dark Star!

Minor rain storm headed my way................

The man that hath no music in himself, nor is not moved with concord of sweet sounds, is fit for treasons, stratagems and spoils......

Rock on!

Doc
Music comes from an icicle as it melts, to live again as spring water......

9/24/72

Oh yes, this is a great show, I am in.
Thanks Doc.

Why Not

It's an early audience, but contains one of the few Seven's that were recorded.

09/29/69 Cafe au Go-Go - New York City, NY

It's no betty board, but an interesting inflection point in GD history, so maybe worthy of our time. Primal GD on the heels of WMD Americana GD.

Despite the recording quality, it's pretty good for a 1969 audience. Worth the trip for the Seven alone. Plus, it's pretty short. Something different, something quick, and well, it's really something.

So why not mix it up with a shortie from the fall of 1969.

9/29/69

Will mix this in as I listen to the new box today. Thanks Jim.

Hope everyone had a good summer

Been a while, just wanted to say hello. Watching the Dark Star from 10/18/74, cool to see video of Ned on stage, as well as see Jerry interact with the head nod. Enjoyed the April 78 release. With the 50th anniversary of the Winterland shows a few weeks away, doesn't look like anything is happening. Be good everyone. Bob t

Bob T

Hey Bob T, how have you been man? Hope all is well.
Yes, love that bonus footage from the GDM soundtrack. Might be one of my favorite UJB.
I have been traveling for work this week so still haven't made a dent in the new box, but loving it so.far.
Good thing there is no rush at this point.

Picks

Hope everyone is enjoying the new box set. Really enjoying it so far over here.

If anyone is interested in a pick, it has been a while, how about 5/16/81, Barton Hall from the 30 Trips box?

5-16-81

Started playing it last night and finished it tonight.

Good call DV.
And I’m having a Bell’s Octoberfest too. They’re gone from the store but I have 5 more cans in the fridge.

Conekid

Nice Conekid, must be esp.

Enjoyed the show again, nice Shakedown Bertha, Sailor Saint. Show ends with that audience patch.

Enjoy the last few Octoberfests. Still have a couple six packs to get through. Would buy a few more but the self life of this beer is only 3 months and it goes bad fast.

Change alone is eternal, perpetual, immortal…..

Good morning fellow rockers!!!

October 19, 1971

The second great seismic shift of 1971. The Yang to the Yin of February 18. Similar, yet different. Old, yet new. A vision of the new era. Change can be for good if you combine audacity with safety………

An old friend missing, a new guy who seems to fit in right away. Six new songs. The return of the complete CE/TOO/CE suite. The unusual occurrence of back-to-back Garcia songs twice in the first set. The first of the Fall 1971 FM broadcasts. One of only two 1971 shows that featured both Black Peter and Brokedown Palace. There ain’t no grease, but there’s plenty of Bakersfield left, as well as big jams.

Not without its rough edges, yet somehow it hangs together oh so well. Absolutely historic and worthy of a serious listen……

Rock on!!
Doc
He who rejects change is the architect of decay, the only human institution which rejects progress is the cemetery………

10/19/71

Oh, yes, Doc this is a good show at the University of Minnesota at the Northrup Auditorium. Good idea.

Some may never live, but the crazy never die.....

Morning, rockers!!

This is for AJS. He'll know what I'm talking about...........

October 20, 1984, Carrier Dome. The last show we saw on that tour, maybe not Augusta level but very enjoyable. We had a great time. Maybe it was the liquid 25, courtesy of Deadhead Fred, a little drop'll do ya!!

Or maybe it was the music. Worth a listen!!!

If I had known being insane was so much fun, I'd have gone crazy long ago.....

Rock on,

Doc
No one can drive us crazy unless we give them the keys......

Doc & Angry Jack

10-20-84 - Syracuse

I was there also, think I met doc in the bathroom during drums,,, he was wearing a tie-dye :-)

My records show we rated Jack Straw at end of set one, a plus 2. Also second set opener of Shakedown got a plus 2 rating from our crew. We have the Black Peter that night at a plus 1.

Thing I remember was the air pressure blowing you out of the exit doors,,, deadheads LOVED this,,, kept going back in just to be blown out!

My wife went to Syracuse (both her parents also!)

Carrier Dome

Love the energy of this show. I'm pretty sure I tossed this out for a pick of the day a few years ago. I was not there, but hey.. we make it to the shows we can and hope for magic and a lightning strike or two.

Still, an enjoyable show and how about that Jack Straw. Another one where I wish I was there.

10-20-84 playing now

Just finished set 1.
It’s a Miller, but the file on my music player doesn’t have an ID number.
Vocals are pretty weak in some places. The playing seems to be trying to make up for it.
Shakedown poking around now…..

Edit:
I would have had fun had I been there.
Drums/Space was good.
I’ll listen to it again.

Most jokes state a bitter truth…..

November 7, 1971
Harding Theater, San Francisco, California

Deadicated to bolo24, because I will not follow where the path may lead, but I will go where there is no path, and I will leave a trail……

Great and classic show and a long-time personal favorite. It has pretty much everything you could ask of the Dead in this era. Rockers, Cowboy songs, hot jams, the unusual coupling of Dark Star and The Other One, an unbelievably smoking NFA transition jam (maybe the best ever?), plus even the often-expected equipment difficulties, AND jokes from the audience! The circulating broadcast copies are excellent quality and highly recommended. The band sounds loose, and the crowd sounds juiced. OK yes there’s no Pigpen, but still highly highly recommended, a classic of the first rank!!

Rock on!!
Doc
It is requisite for the relaxation of the mind that we make use, from time to time, of playful deeds and jokes

I guess I missed it....

I didn't see the notice about the next Bear's Journal, John Hammond.

If you missed too, it's available on Amazon and Bear's site.

Pick

Okay, seems like we need a pick.

How about 10/19/72 from the glorious LTTR Box? Love this box.

Good to see this box finally sold out. We need to make sure these all sell out in order to keep the train rolling.

I can do 10/19

Might take me more than a day though, but I'm in.