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July 1978: The Complete Recordings

What's Inside:

• Five Complete Shows on 12 discs
• 7/1/78 Arrowhead Stadium: Kansas City, MO
• 7/3/78 St. Paul Civic Center Arena: St. Paul, MN
• 7/5/78 Omaha Civic Auditorium: Omaha, NE
• 7/7/78 Red Rocks Amphitheatre: Morrison, CO
• 7/8/78 Red Rocks Amphitheatre: Morrison, CO
Mastered in HDCD by Jeffrey Norman
Artwork by esteemed cartoonist Paul Pope
Intro and show-by-show liner notes by Nicholas Meriwether
Producer's Note by David Lemieux
Individually Numbered, Limited Edition of 15,000
Release Date: May 13, 2016

Announcing July 1978: The Complete Recordings

We’re pleased to announce JULY 1978: THE COMPLETE RECORDINGS, five incredible unreleased shows and the first official release from the long-lost tapes, recently returned to the Grateful Dead’s vault. Follow the Dead on a sonic journey through a superb selection of settings, an often epic adventure that finds them winning over Willie and Waylon fans in Kansas City, conjuring charisma in Omaha, and elevating the Red Rocks beyond their already spiritual planes. With five distinct performances painting the masterpiece of 1978, Betty Cantor-Jackson's always-pristine soundboard recordings, and the "hall-of-fame pedigree" of the Dead's first-ever shows at the legendary Red Rocks Amphitheatre, this is one release that far exceeds excellence in music, sound quality, and rarity.

Limited to 15,000 individually numbered copies, JULY 1978: THE COMPLETE RECORDINGS includes Arrowhead Stadium, Kansas City, MO (7/1/78), St. Paul Civic Center, St. Paul, MN (7/3/78), Omaha Civic Auditorium, Omaha, NE (7/5/78), and Red Rocks Amphitheater, Morrison CO (7/7/78 and 7/8/78) - all of the performances in this collection are drawn from the band’s master soundboard recordings, each newly mastered by Jeffrey Norman. The set also features original artwork by esteemed cartoonist Paul Pope (D.C. and Marvel comics) and in-depth liner notes written by Nick Meriwether (Grateful Dead Archives at the University of California, Santa Cruz), as well as a producer’s note from producer David Lemieux.

Due May 13th, we anticipate that this extraordinary box will sell out. Your best bet is to pre-order it now, then sit back, relax, and enjoy all the exclusive content we'll be rolling out over the next few weeks right here.

Looking for something a little more byte-sized? The collection will also be available for HD digital download in FLAC and ALAC, exclusively at dead.net, on release day.

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April 6, 2017 - 9:28am

#201

rajha2

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Why is this still on sale?

I can only answer for myself, and it's very simple; DiP 18 and, if i felt I needed any more than that, Red Rocks is available separately. on a separate note; does anyone know, is Betty getting her dues; I and several others have asked, and I haven't seen any kind of response at all. If not, surely a Pledge page would be good; or is there already one up? Anyone know?
April 6, 2017 - 8:26am

#202

wadeocu

Joined:
April 1, 2008

Kayak Guy hit the nail on the head

"This should make Rhino happy, the release of widely circulated Betty shows does better than the Betty's that never circulated.Maybe all those years of circulation gave people a taste of what they are willing to pay for now and the stuff that stayed hidden is too unknown to buy?" This is very insightful indeed. I can see no other explanation for the disparity.
April 6, 2017 - 4:41am

#203

Kayak Guy

Joined:
June 4, 2015

Taking the threads back from the hackers

This page for a while was filled with hackers posting away. when i translated some of it through google before it was cleaned up, it was polish slang for "i like this place" and "these people are funny". This set rocks BIGLY, you should consider yourselves lucky its still available for cost and still numbered editions. If you don't have it yet, it's worth the money and the artwork is fantastic, in the style of a graphic novel. Compared to other recent boxes that feature Normanized versions of Betty's that have been in circulation for 30 years, This July 78 box has 4 unreleased Betty's, well 3 and a Stereo upgrade from the mono that circulated. This should make Rhino happy, the release of widely circulated Betty shows does better than the Betty's that never circulated. Maybe all those years of circulation gave people a taste of what they are willing to pay for now and the stuff that stayed hidden is too unknown to buy? In any event if you haven't got it yet, you really should grab this box before it sells out and it becomes speculative on ebay, if just for the box and artwork.
April 5, 2017 - 6:21pm

#204

JimInMD

Joined:
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The Bigger Question is....

Why has this not sold out, its fantastic. Yes.. music today and the constant Russian Hackers is a big part of the reason, the other part is beyond an initial rollout strategy, they have no involvement. For the longest time this thread faded was not even prevalent from the home page of dead.net. I'm not complaining, I have mine and love it.. I just come to this thread from time to time and think wtf?
April 5, 2017 - 4:24pm

#205

Kayak Guy

Joined:
June 4, 2015

Why is this still on sale?

You all have good guesses, as good as mine, which is. The real reason this is still available is the meltdown of Music Today shortly after the release, the website going to comments only mode for months until the Dave's subscription was announced, when NOTHING was available for purchase, and the still cryptic hint above that at some point it will be available digitally "on release day". Its very likely there are 2000 people that would have bought the box if it was the only option, but waited for the digital version instead. Add to that some short term memory loss and short attention spans and you have over 2000 copies left of this box set which I like much better than the Spring 77 box. I love this artwork and would have spent lots of dead presidents on T shirts, posters, and other schwag if offered. I also feel many people pay attention to their browsers and for months this site has been unsafe and I have to click through 2 browser warnings just to log in that say the site is bad for my internet security. NO where else on the internet do i have to click the 2nd "Are you Sure?" dialog box. What's up with that, someone saving IT money by waiting for a new interface, maybe ROAR as the core in the fall? Meanwhile the site limps along on, unsecured until the next explosion when Dave's 22 goes on sale shortly before May 77 part 1 ships and people find out if they got a limited edition or music only version. I bet that will be fun times on the board ;)
April 5, 2017 - 11:01am

#206

wadeocu

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2,551 of these left

I agree Dschian on each of your points. I think it is noteworthy, however that this one is dragging on with 17% of the inventory still left after a year. I think they planned on this one moving faster and I don't blame them. I would have thought that 3 totally uncirculated betty boards and two classics with one only circulating in mono would have generated more buzz. I suspect Rhino and Co. thought the same and thus the 15k. It seems like each release gets core customer sales in the 10k range. That number represents those of us who are so pathetically obsessed that we buy everything no matter what. Then the remaining 5k in sales are the "investors" and occasional buyers. I think that dependable 10k in sales per release is pretty clearly indicated by the numbers set for the FW69 box, early DaPs etc. I think the DaP numbers have gone up only because of the demand created by the second hand market. I do find the hue and cry over limited editions a bit exasperating as I think I understand the considerations being made here and the need to limit stock on hand and warehousing. Really, if we would dependably buy 100k per release they would gladly print it; I'm sure of it. We cant blame the manufacturer for trying to avoid inventory warehousing expenses. This release is a clear indication to me that they have the number set just about right to accomplish their goal of printing and moving releases on a continual release schedule.
March 31, 2017 - 6:37pm

#207

Dschian

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Yup, 80% of the run sold in one year- Rhino knows its base well

Yup, 0ver 80% of the run sold in about a year; at this rate, the rest will probably sell in the next two to three years. Based upon what I've seen buying modern cd and lp releases, it's not unusual for a run to take a few years (and sometimes up to twice that time) to sell out, even for many popular releases. In that respect, wadeocu, yes, Rhino knows its customer base quite well. Nearly every other Dead limited edition/limited release has sold out relatively quickly (from a few days to several months), and even the slower ones, like the second Spring '90 box and the May '77 one, sold out within a few years or less. Believe it or not, Rhino's goal is probably not to make sure that these sell out in a heartbeat, but to sell the greatest number without multiple production runs or endless inventory. I for one am glad that people don't always have to rush to immediately buy one or have to otherwise search for it on ebay at inflated prices. Recently Rhino sold over $2 million dollars worth of the new box set (before the all-music release that followed) within three days, even with the first marked by technical difficulties- by any standard, that's pretty impressive nowadays for physical media.As a follow-up to my recent post below, finally got a chance to hear my Winterland 1977 box again (I have a huge listening backlog) and came away much more impressed by it than by the first May 1977 box, with the exception of the latter's 5/13 show, which is excellent and the best of them. I still do think, though, that overall the Summer 1978 box outranks the May '77 box in quality of shows.
March 31, 2017 - 6:29pm

#208

Dschian

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1977 the last great year for the Dead?

Rbmunkin, while in some respects 1977 WAS the last great year for the Dead- chiefly in the reliability of their musicianship, according to what I've heard from later years- it certainly wasn't their last great year for many listeners in terms of many, many great later performances. To put my bias in context, my favorite Dead years are 1969 and 1972-'74, so I'm not an '80's deadhead, though I attended the bulk of my shows during the earlier part of that decade and love many of the shows from its first half.I have both the May 1977 box set and the July '78 one, and to my ears the 1978 one is substantially better. I say that because while the 1977 performances in that box are all reasonably strong, they're not always particularly exciting to me. The band, and Jerry in particular, strike me as being in a more predictable, professional mode at the shows in this earlier '77 box release (though I expect the new '77 box to be substantially better performances, based upon the bits I've heard). I find the improvisation more raw, energetic, and dynamic in the 1978 box, and to me that's what makes shows stand out. Also, the song selection is a bit more varied, which I appreciate. While 1978 may be weaker overall as a year (and I haven't heard most of either year), I find these performances to be better than much of what I've heard from '77. Similarly, according to what a listener likes, great boxes (if not great recordings) could be put together of performances from the early 80's or even the Spring/Summer 1985 tour, I believe. One slight drawback of the 1978 box is that the recordings have a bit less depth to the sound, but that goes with the territory of later 2-track soundboards. If you like the '78 sound, definitely get this box while it's still around! I think that they're all (and not just the Red Rocks shows) excellent performances and better ones than the Dave's Picks releases from '78 so far.
March 28, 2017 - 8:14am

#209

wadeocu

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March 19, 2017 - 8:36am

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Dschian

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July 1978: The Complete Recordings

What's Inside:

• Five Complete Shows on 12 discs
• 7/1/78 Arrowhead Stadium: Kansas City, MO
• 7/3/78 St. Paul Civic Center Arena: St. Paul, MN
• 7/5/78 Omaha Civic Auditorium: Omaha, NE
• 7/7/78 Red Rocks Amphitheatre: Morrison, CO
• 7/8/78 Red Rocks Amphitheatre: Morrison, CO
Mastered in HDCD by Jeffrey Norman
Artwork by esteemed cartoonist Paul Pope
Intro and show-by-show liner notes by Nicholas Meriwether
Producer's Note by David Lemieux
Individually Numbered, Limited Edition of 15,000
Release Date: May 13, 2016

Announcing July 1978: The Complete Recordings

We’re pleased to announce JULY 1978: THE COMPLETE RECORDINGS, five incredible unreleased shows and the first official release from the long-lost tapes, recently returned to the Grateful Dead’s vault. Follow the Dead on a sonic journey through a superb selection of settings, an often epic adventure that finds them winning over Willie and Waylon fans in Kansas City, conjuring charisma in Omaha, and elevating the Red Rocks beyond their already spiritual planes. With five distinct performances painting the masterpiece of 1978, Betty Cantor-Jackson's always-pristine soundboard recordings, and the "hall-of-fame pedigree" of the Dead's first-ever shows at the legendary Red Rocks Amphitheatre, this is one release that far exceeds excellence in music, sound quality, and rarity.

Limited to 15,000 individually numbered copies, JULY 1978: THE COMPLETE RECORDINGS includes Arrowhead Stadium, Kansas City, MO (7/1/78), St. Paul Civic Center, St. Paul, MN (7/3/78), Omaha Civic Auditorium, Omaha, NE (7/5/78), and Red Rocks Amphitheater, Morrison CO (7/7/78 and 7/8/78) - all of the performances in this collection are drawn from the band’s master soundboard recordings, each newly mastered by Jeffrey Norman. The set also features original artwork by esteemed cartoonist Paul Pope (D.C. and Marvel comics) and in-depth liner notes written by Nick Meriwether (Grateful Dead Archives at the University of California, Santa Cruz), as well as a producer’s note from producer David Lemieux.

Due May 13th, we anticipate that this extraordinary box will sell out. Your best bet is to pre-order it now, then sit back, relax, and enjoy all the exclusive content we'll be rolling out over the next few weeks right here.

Looking for something a little more byte-sized? The collection will also be available for HD digital download in FLAC and ALAC, exclusively at dead.net, on release day.

Less than a week now...

Another fine collection of Grateful Dead will be hitting my mailbox or doorstep in mere days. As if Dave's 18 weren't enough, now 5 more Bettys to soak up. What I've heard in the Listening Parties has me anxious to dig in. I'm not huge on May '78, which is mainly what's been released apart from the two Dave's 7 & 15. 7 is my least favorite Pick so far, 15 one of my top 4-6 (depending on my mood). The segues on 15 are not very good, but the songs themselves are extremely well played. The Listening Parties have much smoother segues, particularly that Estimated> Other One> Wharf Rat> Around & Around, but still the same powdery intensity that is the hallmark of '78 Dead. The biggest selling point to me is the 3 Wharf Rats! Was slightly disappointed that May '77 only had one, they killed Wharf Rat throughout '77, particularly because of the addition of Mickey for the huge build into the Fly Away, but Dave's 15 Wharf is probably my favorite version, so I look forward to these, plus Jack Straw, some Scarlet> Fire action. Anyone else excited?

Dead.Dan

I am happy to help with getting you whatever shows you seek.Check your messages for details. Happy Monday! So good to me...

alvarhanso

vvvveeeerryyy excited. sorry but I can't resist: alvarhanso-lo please forgive.

7/5

is gonna blow your mind.

Walkerswood

All that talk of Walkerswood made me hungry. Picked up a jar at Kroger for $5, shrimp was on sale for $6/lb. Gonna have grilled jerk shrimp tacos. Just put in 5-9-77, having a beer while the shrimp soaks up some flavor. Will save half of the shrimp for tomorrow, they should be well marinated by then.Cheers, all.

Jerking

Not to beat a dead curried goat, but the Amazon price was for a case of 24 jars. Some people really like to jerk....

Awesomeness

Big shout out to Vince (Vguy72) - was great hanging out with him on Cinco de Mayo down in old part of Vegas. So cool to talk shop with a fellow head. Vince is a great guy - thanks for your hospitality! Vince - I'd post over at DaP18, but have not had a chance to listen to the release yet and would prefer to listen with fresh ears!!! Definitely looking forward to the new boxset! Will try me some of that Walkerswood. They sell the seasoning, marinade and sauce. Which do people use? I made 50 lbs of Jerk chicken wings for a ski club party once. Split the wings into roughly 10 lb bags - did one with 2 Habenero peppers, two with 5 Habenero peppers and two with 10 Habenero peppers. I preferred the 10 pepper wings. It was a lot of work to make - wore cloves but still had lost sensation in fingertips, but did not touch eyes or other parts that would really hurt :o

Boblopes

10oz jar of jerk seasoning hot and spicy will act as the perfect introduction. You can do mild, but the lack of scotch bonnet peppers will be missed. If you dig it, from there explore!We found a Bravo store close y with the full product list. Icecreamkid you are in for a lil bit of heaven with the shrimp. The only thing I've put it on so far that didn't truly rock was a burger. Not bad, but after chicken and shrimp, just not as orgasmic.

78 Box (Shipping Notice)

They are shipping!!!! Got my notice this A.M. :)

Shipping!

That's really great news. I hope I get mine soon and box like by the weekend!I didn't do the Daves script this year, thinking I'd do ala carte instead. But this box really set the hook, I ordered same day as the announcement. 5 shows will provide me a fix for most of the summer. I move slow with these releases, needing 6 or more spins to get the understanding of a show. Funds are low so I'm picking my cherries this year. Hope we all have um soon.

shipping probably not in time

Leaving for vacation late Friday,,,, doubt it will be here by them. Would've been nice for the road trip. :-(

shipping..never in time

I suspect my box will ship in a few days. Then I will have it mid-to-late next week. Ahhh I love Mail Innovations! *grumble* Time to give DaP 18 another go around.

hey they took down the DaP link

Fare Thee Well is still there though. hmm. 78 box, baby, on the way. :)))

78 Box

Nice but alittle pricey compared to other box sets in market.Meantime picked up 7/8/78 for under $17 from reliable vender. Just saying!

Way overpriced

$14 for shipping and $12 for Tax. $152 Total? Way overpriced. No Thanks.

7/8 enough for me

not gonna spring for the box as I haven't really gotten into the listening party selections and was never a big 78 fan to begin with and won't see myself coming back to these versus other shows. but 7/8, sure

good deal here on sunshine daydream

less than $38 bucks for dvd version. hop on if you don't already own this.

This (July 78 Complete Recordings) is going to be AMAZING!

These Red Rocks shows are all-timers and we get all new Betty Boards! I absolutely CAN'T wait!! Beautiful artwork, essays and pics. Plus, the "Full Norman"? Yes, yes and YES! So excited that some of us will soon be holding this wonderful set in our hands and sitting down and pressing play. What a journey this will be. Absolutely nothing to dislike about this. :) Thanks to DL2/Pinkus and everyone at Rhino for pushing these projects into reality for us. This will be sold out soon and what a treasure it will be for years and years to come! Enjoy the >Jam

Shipping notice received!!!....

....Happy Birthday to me!!!....

overpriced?

a lot of dollars, yes, but it isn't like boxzilla or E72. I find vinyl overpriced. This box is a wet dream in my opinion. GD78 is fantastic, classic GD to me. Christmas in May. Christmas is coming, stoltzfus getting fat please put a CD into stoltzfus' hat if you haven't got a CD a DVD will do if you haven't got a DVD then... can't think of a cool finisher glorious Wednesday to all

Shipping Notices??

Not great timing.. but like Dantian before me my CD's get delivered by horse and it seems to take a fortnight from their shipping barn in Va. I'm heading to Philly to stalk some mailboxes of some heads I know. I need this box set now! (kidding.. reminds me of that scene in Willy Wonka, Daddy, I want an Upmah Lumpah now. Man.. those Umpah's really freak me out. Like... "cool it on the brown acid you guys, you're beginning to scare the grown ups").

Got my shipping conf, also HDCD playback Question

Just got my shipping notice, still waiting for the delivery date to be updated. I feel like a child on Christmas Eve, really excited for this set. I skipped the Daves picks this year and am going to pick up 1 that is tbd. I have a question about HDCD and what people are using on here to listen to that higher res 20-bit format. I'm aware that the HDCD will play on a regular cd player via regular 16-bit playback, but I was wondering if anyone on here has a HDCD player, and where they got it? Or if people on here are using windows media player to play and hear the HDCD format (does WMP play out in 20-bit formats, thought they may since Microsoft owns the HDCD copyright now)? Any info and help on this would be greatly appreciated, thanks you.

Shipping notice

Received.... Will be at my doorstep by 10 AM DST tomorrow BRING IT ON!!!! Happy MUATM DAY!!!!!!

mcgruber - HDCD

There was lot of noise regarding this about a year or so ago. wjonjd and fourwinds did a lot of research on it (I think).. lots of back and forth on specs, what to play it on, what the impact is, etc. I think wjon burned from two different players to file and did some analysis on the resulting lossless digital files too, but could be wrong about this. In summary.. playing on a standard player does not seem to make a very noticeable difference in the sound quality. Keithfan had the best advice on buying a player, instead of rolling out big bucks for a new one, look on EBay. I got mine for something like $40 + shipping. I rarely use it..

wissinoming

I don't get it - I live in Torresdale - right near you (basically) and you always get these releases days before me. I didn't even get a shipping notice yet. >sigh<

DP14

No shipping notice. Passing the time with DP14 while I smoke some baby back ribs. One of those "no Donna" releases. That Eyes of the World from November 30, 1973 (disc 2) is bonkers. That is all. Edit: I've never heard a Brown-Eyed Women like that. DP14 has some amazing moments.

Jimmy Kimmel last night

Fun to see Dead and CO on the showWhat got me wasn't Mayer's guitar playing, cause he can do that well. But Hey he also covered Donna Jean on the backup vocal for Bobby!!! Versatility...........

I got mine and you got yours

shipping notice today :)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))

ole to bandito's comment on DP14

I have been listening to that over the past week. need to listen to the WR > 1/2 step and then disc three.

FedEx for a change

Rec'd my shipping notice and its with "FedEx SmartPost," a new one on me. The tracking # actually works and it indicates that FedEx got the "information" at 8:12am on Fri, May 6. Shipping notice from dead.net today, May 11. I'm outta here to the backcountry Mon, May 16, so I'm hoping to get my sweaty little paws on this baby by Sat. Or get the neighbors to keep an eye out. Come July it'll be 38 yrs since we fried our brains on the Rocks two days running for those July 7/8 shows. I still retain and experience little visual flashes of that stand on occasion. AND hitting the Rocks this year for Dylan, Tedeschi-Trucks (Los Lobos opening -- my two favorite live bands in one show) and Bonnie Raitt. My 42nd year at the Rocks. Oh, wait, shouldn't have defined myself as "old foot-in-the-grave hendrixfreak"... too late!!

hendrixfreak

Correctamundo! Fed-Ex it is this time around for me too. Tracking number works and everything...even for my neck-o-the woods.I have been informed that "A Label Has Been Created" in Crozet,Va. It's a brave new world

FedEx SmartPost

ahhh.. SmartPost is FedEx's version of UPS Mail Innovations. Its half FedEx, half good ole US Mail (USPS). Its nothing more than Mail innovations wrapped in FedEx clothing. Have fun in the woods, HF.

Five Betty shows are en route....

....man, life sucks. I personally, have never had a release arrive a week later than when the first announcements started ringing. Never had a box cutter, missing disc, etc. Fresno has a small issue in Row Jimmy that even toothpaste can't fix. Can't explain why some heads get the slow boat to China. Some ship UPS ground, some USPS media mail, others FedEx air. Fucking weird business model. But, in the end, strap them on a sloth riding saddle on a slug. Just keep feeding me Seymore....

Shipping

For the July 1978 The Complete Recordings, if you paid for the 1-2 day shipping, it gets delivered by FedEx Home tomorrow or Friday; if you went with anything else, it gets delivered by FedEx SmartPost next week.

Re: Elbow49

Aaahhh!! Sorry.. that's my natural reaction to your avatar.

Then, of course...

....there's elbows theory. Lol....

Yes...

...I would like some more Seymore over here too, please.... and hurry up with those Bettys!

Fed-Ex - when you don't give a shit when it comes....

Lets see mine did something at crozet, va on the 6th. Six days later it made West Virginia, says in 6 more days will be here. Almost 2 weeks to go all of 1200 miles. That's worst than book rate at the post office.

all good things in all good time

(but hurry it up, yo.)

SmartPost?

I honestly don't understand it. Is it cheaper for dead.net than plain old US mail (media mail)? Because it is for damn certain slower.

Not a lot of wood in the high desert...

But thanks for the vibe, JimInMD... It's kinda sparse pinon-juniper trees scattered across the savannah, but dense enough in places to give cover to the beasts. (Yes, including me and the four-leggers...) Today the tracker said that while "information" had been "delivered" to FedEx on May 6, an actual pkg left W. Virginia this morning. Yep, that'll arrive while I'm gone. Perhaps FedEx has the tracking thing down pat and that's its involvement? That might be an improvement over the "USPS" tracking, which has never worked for me. Had a flash last night to hold the RR shows til July 7/8 and do a back-to-back listen, but acknowledged to self that that's not realistic. Too eager to hear the tapes and compare new RR with old, boot RR. I'm thinking the quality difference will be tres noticeable.

Yay, Monday delivery

Got my shipping conf and it should be here on Monday. I haven't been this excited for a release in a while. The clarity on these recordings is incredible, the subtle effects on Jerry's rig really ring and I'm basing this off of a lossy streaming format, stoked here!! I also bit the bullet on several Europe 72 shows, some of the more popular ones, 4/8, 4/24, 4/26, 5/4, 5/11, and 5/26. Looks like most of them are back in stock, although it also looks like 4 or so have been permanently removed, like 5/3, 5/10, and 5/25.

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