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    Madison Square Garden 3/9/81
    Madison Square Garden 3/10/81
    Madison Square Garden 9/20/82
    Madison Square Garden 9/21/82
    Madison Square Garden 10/11/83
    Madison Square Garden 10/12/83
    Newly restored and speed-corrected audio by Plangent Processes
    Mastered by Jeffrey Norman
    Liners by award-winning music journalist David Fricke
    Artwork by Dave Van Patten
    Individually Numbered, Limited Edition Of 12,500

    “Welcome to the unique, enduring phenomenon of the Grateful Dead in New York City, a mutual devotion, forged in concert, that ran for nearly as long as the band itself—from June 1, 1967, a free show in Tompkins Square Park on the Lower East Side (ahead of the band’s official, local bow at the Cafe Au Go Go), to the Dead’s last Garden run, six nights in October 1994…the Dead’s affinity for New York City…was instant and arguably their most profound with any city aside from San Francisco.” - David Fricke

    They got on the bus to the Port Authority, rode in on the Long Island Railroad and the New Jersey Transit line. They traveled North, South, and West on the 1, 2, and 3 subway lines, their numbers growing as they descended upon Penn Station. Some rolled up in those iconic New York yellows. Some walked excitedly through the bright lights of Broadway and Times Square, meeting up with old friends on the way and picking up a few new ones too as they ascended The Garden's stairs. Maybe you were among them - lightly buzzed on the way in, fully aglow on the way home. New York City was in its prime and damn if the Grateful Dead wasn't going to rise up to meet it! If you were there, we call on you to join us as we recapture that MSG magic and if you weren't, we invite you along on the epic journey that is IN AND OUT OF THE GARDEN: MADISON SQUARE GARDEN '81 '82 '83.

    Numbered and limited-edition to 12,500, this 17CD set celebrates the band’s rich history at “the world’s most famous arena,” introducing six previously unreleased shows recorded at MSG between 1981 and 1983. It offers a front-row seat to the Dead in the early 1980s, an overlooked and underestimated era of rebirth for the band. At the time of the recordings, the group featured Brent Mydland. Mydland’s vocal power and colorful keyboard palette energized the band, invigorating older material like “The Wheel,” “Truckin’” and “Eyes of The World.” He also gave the band more musical flexibility, which encouraged them to dust off rarely aired treasures like “Dupree’s Diamond Blues” and “Crazy Fingers.”

    IN AND OUT OF THE GARDEN touches on the three-year period after 1980’s GO TO HEAVEN was released, a time when the Dead were constantly on the road, playing more than 200 dates. While they were in no rush to return to the studio during this time, they continued to write new music. In 1982 and ’83, the band performed most of the songs that would appear on 1987’s IN THE DARK. The new collection includes performances of four songs from that album – “Touch Of Grey,” “Hell In A Bucket,” “Throwing Stones,” and “West L.A. Fadeaway” – plus the B-side, “My Brother Esau.”

    Due September 23rd, IN AND OUT OF THE GARDEN comes in a custom box featuring new artwork by Dave Van Patten celebrating the band’s eclectic fanbase, with a cavalcade of illustrated Dead Heads. The collection also includes detailed liner notes by award-winning music journalist David Fricke, who explores the band’s connection to the Big Apple. It features newly restored and speed-corrected audio by Plangent Processes, mastered by Jeffrey Norman.

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  • daverock
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    That's a kind gesture, and as an overseas purchaser ( if not of this actual box), I would like to say - thanks. I can't speak for other posters on here, but I feel sure that no one would want you to miss out on this box by waiting for a reply that may simply never arrive.

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    Just ordered some Dave Matthews Band Live albums and t shirts from Music Today. Ships out of VA. To Canada it was $22 US which included duty and tax. It was $18 US if you didn't want duty and tax included. Now that is a deal!

  • proudfoot
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    They probably won't reply.

    I hope they do, but doubt they will.

    "Operator said that's priv'lige' information and it ain't no business of mine"

  • simonrob
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    Awaiting Reply On Shipping Charges

    I also mailed customer service asking why the international shipping charges had been increased by amounts that cannot be considered either rational or reasonable. I too am awaiting an answer. I don't hold out much hope that charges will revert to "normal" but the chance is always there.

  • That Mike
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    DMCVT - I wrote the customer service folks on the 13th just looking for the reason(s) or rationale for such a huge jump in shipping fees, but I’ve only received the “huge volume of inquiries…patience” response so far. I know the answer will be buffed and shined, not likely to be a revelation to them al a “WTF!! Did we do that?? Sorry, someone hit the wrong keys when inputting the info….”. I’m about 40 miles east of Toronto, so technically “international”, but I still cannot fathom the price. Oh well, I have a considerable library of Dead, including some first rate box sets (including 30 Trips), and my interests in music, like most folks on the boards here, go way beyond the Dead.
    My little town has been chosen for an annual Hells Angels get together this weekend. Sheriff Andy and Deputy Barney Fife expect close to 1,000 HA members to descend on our little town to eat, drink, and have Mary.
    I’d like to think the newly released DaP 43 would be right in the sweet spot for one and all attending.

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    Have been waiting for response regarding the excessive international shipping charges for our friends across the water. Some kind of rebate/refund/credit/adjustment seems appropriate, even if it has been farmed out to a third party shipper. I will hold off purchasing this release until something shakes loose.

  • Colin Gould
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    Is it just me?

    I notice that, currently, while I can look at and order Apparel in the store none of the music items are accessible. Luckily, I don’t need to place an order but it would be impossible if I needed too.

    EDIT: Back to normal now, must have been some ‘Essential Maintenance’.

  • daverock
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    Lyceum box

    Yes, taking all the factors into account, the Lyceum box is worth it to me.
    Shipping costs have made me much more selective over the last year or so, and it works for me not subscribing for Dave's Picks - I simply don't want them all anymore. I still haven't played the whole 1987 Dave's all the way through yet. Probably never will. So far I have been able to get the ones I want with no trouble. Same with boxes - pass by the ones I am merely interested in, and get the ones that really appeal to me.

  • estimating prof
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    Sorry to hear about this shipping charge and drama.

    This looks like a solid set. I have passed on the box sets the past few years, mostly out of having more Dead than I can listen to regularly. I've been doing my Dave's subscription and picking up a vinyl release about every other year and that's been working for me. I did regret not picking up the 76 box.

    I used to comment a lot here that I'd like to see more 80s releases and great that's happening lately. I have heard probably all but the final show in this box and they are good ones. About 10 yrs ago I got really into the Hunter's Trix matrix recordings - highly recommend those - and listened to lots of early 80s. The 81 and 82 shows here all have Hunter's matrixes and are quite good.

    3/9/81 is top shelf early 80s to my ears. Great show throughout. Many excellent moments. I've long wondered if this one would be released as a Dave's pick. It's a personal favorite.

    I also remember really enjoying the first 82 show in this box, though I haven't heard it in a long time. I'm going to re-visit.

    Agree with others that matrix recordings, and audience tapes, add a lot to the sound of the early 80s shows. I'm glad these tapes got plangent and do wonder what the overall sound will be like.

    That's all to say - I'm thinking hard about this one. The single show is a no brainer. The box wasn't really in my plans but I do like hot shows from 81 and 82 a lot. Gonna think about this one and hope an extra 200 comes my way soon :-)

    Not really their thing here at dead.net, but might have been fun to produce a smaller number of these on cassette. These are cassette shows on a number of levels. Lot's of younger bands putting things out on cassette right now.

    Super excited to hear Dave's 43 at high volume in the near future!

    Cheers ya'll

  • simonrob
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    Bob - Lyceum LP Box

    International shipping for this 28lb monster is $98 which seems reasonable when compared to the shipping for the MSG box.

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WHAT'S INSIDE:
Madison Square Garden 3/9/81
Madison Square Garden 3/10/81
Madison Square Garden 9/20/82
Madison Square Garden 9/21/82
Madison Square Garden 10/11/83
Madison Square Garden 10/12/83
Newly restored and speed-corrected audio by Plangent Processes
Mastered by Jeffrey Norman
Liners by award-winning music journalist David Fricke
Artwork by Dave Van Patten
Individually Numbered, Limited Edition Of 12,500

“Welcome to the unique, enduring phenomenon of the Grateful Dead in New York City, a mutual devotion, forged in concert, that ran for nearly as long as the band itself—from June 1, 1967, a free show in Tompkins Square Park on the Lower East Side (ahead of the band’s official, local bow at the Cafe Au Go Go), to the Dead’s last Garden run, six nights in October 1994…the Dead’s affinity for New York City…was instant and arguably their most profound with any city aside from San Francisco.” - David Fricke

They got on the bus to the Port Authority, rode in on the Long Island Railroad and the New Jersey Transit line. They traveled North, South, and West on the 1, 2, and 3 subway lines, their numbers growing as they descended upon Penn Station. Some rolled up in those iconic New York yellows. Some walked excitedly through the bright lights of Broadway and Times Square, meeting up with old friends on the way and picking up a few new ones too as they ascended The Garden's stairs. Maybe you were among them - lightly buzzed on the way in, fully aglow on the way home. New York City was in its prime and damn if the Grateful Dead wasn't going to rise up to meet it! If you were there, we call on you to join us as we recapture that MSG magic and if you weren't, we invite you along on the epic journey that is IN AND OUT OF THE GARDEN: MADISON SQUARE GARDEN '81 '82 '83.

Numbered and limited-edition to 12,500, this 17CD set celebrates the band’s rich history at “the world’s most famous arena,” introducing six previously unreleased shows recorded at MSG between 1981 and 1983. It offers a front-row seat to the Dead in the early 1980s, an overlooked and underestimated era of rebirth for the band. At the time of the recordings, the group featured Brent Mydland. Mydland’s vocal power and colorful keyboard palette energized the band, invigorating older material like “The Wheel,” “Truckin’” and “Eyes of The World.” He also gave the band more musical flexibility, which encouraged them to dust off rarely aired treasures like “Dupree’s Diamond Blues” and “Crazy Fingers.”

IN AND OUT OF THE GARDEN touches on the three-year period after 1980’s GO TO HEAVEN was released, a time when the Dead were constantly on the road, playing more than 200 dates. While they were in no rush to return to the studio during this time, they continued to write new music. In 1982 and ’83, the band performed most of the songs that would appear on 1987’s IN THE DARK. The new collection includes performances of four songs from that album – “Touch Of Grey,” “Hell In A Bucket,” “Throwing Stones,” and “West L.A. Fadeaway” – plus the B-side, “My Brother Esau.”

Due September 23rd, IN AND OUT OF THE GARDEN comes in a custom box featuring new artwork by Dave Van Patten celebrating the band’s eclectic fanbase, with a cavalcade of illustrated Dead Heads. The collection also includes detailed liner notes by award-winning music journalist David Fricke, who explores the band’s connection to the Big Apple. It features newly restored and speed-corrected audio by Plangent Processes, mastered by Jeffrey Norman.

Hey August I've been spinning 9/20/82. The very beginning of Shakedown sounds like they're all tuning up and getting the mix, but then it settles in very nicely and the Shakedown has all players well balanced. Hot Shakedown>Mingle one-two. I just listened to the Scarlet>Fire last night and it is excellent also. I'm liking this box more and more.

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Anyone still on the fence on this I would jump on this. If you like early 80's Dead, this will not disappoint. I love it. Such great variety and the sound quality to my ears is 5 dancing bears! Just fantastic. Revisited 3/9/81 and this show smokes. The first set Deep Elem Blues, Birdsong! So good. Second set China Rider and the Estimatesd UJB is what this band is all about. So glad they put this one out.
Only complaint, they didn't include the 79 MSG shows.

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Just ordered the vinyl copy of 3/9/81 from Experience Vinyl (125 bucks).

I'm guessing the Dead never released this on vinyl,,,, I don't have a copy in stock.!?

I lost a chunk of emails,,,, this order (in cd's) would have been in that chunk. I would have thought if it was available on vinyl I would have bought when I ordered the cd's.

But I can find NOTHING to show this has ever been released on vinyl.

Am I nuts or did I just spend more of my wife's hard earned money!

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Spinning 9/20/82 today and it's really hitting the spot! So much magic in this MSG box. It's been in reagular rotation since the day I recieved it. I really like how they switch things up with the multi night, muti year run from a particular venue.

Also, if you've been hesitant about getting this because of reading post about sound quality, era, or performance quality, don't listen!!! If you like early 80's Dead, wait no more!

I get not liking an era but it seems a lot of posters (not all) come out in immediate protest of anything post 78.

Anyway, if you like this era, I promise this box won't disappoint! and no, I don't know DL or work for Rhino.

Rock on, gang!

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In the past few weeks I've given the '82 and '83 shows a relisten and with each I had the same thought, "Oh geez, I forgot how much fun this one is! I've got to get on dead net and spread the word......"

But I'm a bit biased with towards post 70s GD. The ritualistic approach they kept with from '79 onward simply works and one I'll never tire of. Although, does fall into the whole, 'for those that understand no explanation is needed; for those that don't, none is possible'. Seems the majority of the people that really dig 80s and 90s Grateful Dead are those that saw them in that period. Makes sense.

Of the four shows, I'd say 10/12/83 stood out the most for me this time around. Because of the Help>Slip>Franklins. Has to be one of the better post '77 versions out there. Certainly one of the longest Slipknots from the 80s and 90s. Which is the part that counts most ; -)

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