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    Madison Square Garden 3/9/81
    Madison Square Garden 3/10/81
    Madison Square Garden 9/20/82
    Madison Square Garden 9/21/82
    Madison Square Garden 10/11/83
    Madison Square Garden 10/12/83
    Newly restored and speed-corrected audio by Plangent Processes
    Mastered by Jeffrey Norman
    Liners by award-winning music journalist David Fricke
    Artwork by Dave Van Patten
    Individually Numbered, Limited Edition Of 12,500

    “Welcome to the unique, enduring phenomenon of the Grateful Dead in New York City, a mutual devotion, forged in concert, that ran for nearly as long as the band itself—from June 1, 1967, a free show in Tompkins Square Park on the Lower East Side (ahead of the band’s official, local bow at the Cafe Au Go Go), to the Dead’s last Garden run, six nights in October 1994…the Dead’s affinity for New York City…was instant and arguably their most profound with any city aside from San Francisco.” - David Fricke

    They got on the bus to the Port Authority, rode in on the Long Island Railroad and the New Jersey Transit line. They traveled North, South, and West on the 1, 2, and 3 subway lines, their numbers growing as they descended upon Penn Station. Some rolled up in those iconic New York yellows. Some walked excitedly through the bright lights of Broadway and Times Square, meeting up with old friends on the way and picking up a few new ones too as they ascended The Garden's stairs. Maybe you were among them - lightly buzzed on the way in, fully aglow on the way home. New York City was in its prime and damn if the Grateful Dead wasn't going to rise up to meet it! If you were there, we call on you to join us as we recapture that MSG magic and if you weren't, we invite you along on the epic journey that is IN AND OUT OF THE GARDEN: MADISON SQUARE GARDEN '81 '82 '83.

    Numbered and limited-edition to 12,500, this 17CD set celebrates the band’s rich history at “the world’s most famous arena,” introducing six previously unreleased shows recorded at MSG between 1981 and 1983. It offers a front-row seat to the Dead in the early 1980s, an overlooked and underestimated era of rebirth for the band. At the time of the recordings, the group featured Brent Mydland. Mydland’s vocal power and colorful keyboard palette energized the band, invigorating older material like “The Wheel,” “Truckin’” and “Eyes of The World.” He also gave the band more musical flexibility, which encouraged them to dust off rarely aired treasures like “Dupree’s Diamond Blues” and “Crazy Fingers.”

    IN AND OUT OF THE GARDEN touches on the three-year period after 1980’s GO TO HEAVEN was released, a time when the Dead were constantly on the road, playing more than 200 dates. While they were in no rush to return to the studio during this time, they continued to write new music. In 1982 and ’83, the band performed most of the songs that would appear on 1987’s IN THE DARK. The new collection includes performances of four songs from that album – “Touch Of Grey,” “Hell In A Bucket,” “Throwing Stones,” and “West L.A. Fadeaway” – plus the B-side, “My Brother Esau.”

    Due September 23rd, IN AND OUT OF THE GARDEN comes in a custom box featuring new artwork by Dave Van Patten celebrating the band’s eclectic fanbase, with a cavalcade of illustrated Dead Heads. The collection also includes detailed liner notes by award-winning music journalist David Fricke, who explores the band’s connection to the Big Apple. It features newly restored and speed-corrected audio by Plangent Processes, mastered by Jeffrey Norman.

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  • Oroborous
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    Not that it justifies…

    But maybe the difference is that Dave’s are usually smart post, and boxes are UPS?
    Now that still doesn’t explain the big difference between MSG and last years St Louis box?

  • proudfoot
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    Typo

    It's interplanetary shipping charges, not international.

  • simonrob
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    Worrying.

    International shipping for the Dave's Picks 2022 subscription cost $15.99. For that they send 3/4 CD sets 4 times.

    The international shipping charge for the forthcoming Madison Square Garden, New York, NY 3/9/81 3CD set is $15.99, the same as for a whole year's worth of Dave's Picks.

    This could mean that international shipping for the Dave's Picks 2023 may be 4x $15.99 = $64. This, if it happens, would be a most unwelcome development.

    Dave's Picks are not available as downloads.

    Sheesh.

  • Alan57
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    Just another person…

    Just another person complaining about the international shipping charges.I order a lot of stuff from overseas and $70 is complete extortion compared to what other businesses are currently charging.
    This price marks the end of me buying box sets from Dead.net and I’m just glad I got the St Louis set before this outrage.

  • TimP
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    Box Sets in general

    This DOES look like a nice set -- and the Dead were playing well in 81/82/83. The 81 sets in particular look like a very nice reminder of when we were luckily to have them visit the UK twice in 81 :) . That said -- I've only just listened to every note of the Europe 72 trunk, I still have bits of the 90s box sets and also Pacific North West to dig into, and am just starting to revisit early Dick's Picks -- and for sure it is easy to understand why those were the "first" releases from the vault (DP 2 - Dark Star -- my oh my!). So likely won't order the box set (I shudder to think of Custom Charges and VAT on top of everything and the shipping charge). The single release will suit just fine. I'm now 70, and I reckonI would have to listen to 2 + hrs of Dead to get through what I've got - lol!

  • morokolli
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    Spacebetween and international shipping

    Now that you put it that way…🙂. I quess I am using the coupon. How ever I dont like the idea of paying bigger shipping cost than they really are.

    I wonder what happened to wonderful Marye? She was earlier taking care of all problems here. Hope she is fine.

  • JimInMD
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    Complicated

    I think it's a bit more complicated and nuanced than meets the surface.. But greed seems to be oozing through the complexity. Shipping aside, you have to give dead.net a little credit for not letting the price per CD spiral upwards, would that be the yin or the yang?

    Anyway, some heady thoughts here. Be wary of greed at the time when most of the world is suffering, understanding it's not always as simple you think from a cursory glance. Hopefully we can get through this without hating one another and without this ridiculous Russian instigated war getting any worse.

  • Charlie3
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    Artwork

    Hadn't thought of it as a Peter Max vibe on the artwork, but I can see it. I have fond memories of a childhood sleeping bag in the early '70s with a Peter Max design.

    As a fan of drums-space sequences, particularly the segue from space to whatever came next, I am looking forward to adding this box to the collection. I know you can't judge a show by the set list, but these shows look to have some cool set lists.

  • Born Cross Eye…
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    A possible international shipping cost savings trick

    OK, I have read a few comments about the high cost of international shipping, especially if you live in Canada.
    Trust is the polite magical word here.
    If you live in Metro Vancouver, B.C., area, this may work. Hook up online with an American or at least a Head who lives in the Metro Seattle Washington area. Sweet talk them into buying a copy of this box, agree to pay them in US Dollars add taxes and shipping costs (to them) for the total amount. Now negotiate with them gas money that will take them to Peace Arch Park. Set up a date and time when you can "deliver."
    At Peach Arch, I'd suggest that the shipping box has been opened and the cellophane has been opened too. Just in case the Border Services Agency officer stops the Canadian citizen and asks what were you doing in the park with that American and what was that person just gave you.
    Possible inspection. "Geez, officer, I'm just borrowing this recording for a while."

    There will be an exchange of money in cash US Dollars between the buyer and seller.

    This scenario could be played out elsewhere along the Canada-United States border where there are no obstructions and far less traffic of people, motor vehicles, and especially US Customs and Border Protection and Canadian Border Services Personnel keeping an "eye" on things - if you know where to go.

    It's all about trust.

  • snafu
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    Thank You

    Thank you to all the delivery people who have stopped by 5 times a week to bring me stuff while others were getting free money. Thank you servers and wait staff who come to work every day and making it possible to enjoy a meal out. As for greed heads I don't like them either but blaming the guys in the brown trucks well they are the men and women who have supplied us for 2 years. Oh yeah again thank you Dave and all the people who give me an almost endless supply of great stuff. All in all my experience has been every day people doing just fine. The political class on the other hand need to be replaced en masse

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WHAT'S INSIDE:
Madison Square Garden 3/9/81
Madison Square Garden 3/10/81
Madison Square Garden 9/20/82
Madison Square Garden 9/21/82
Madison Square Garden 10/11/83
Madison Square Garden 10/12/83
Newly restored and speed-corrected audio by Plangent Processes
Mastered by Jeffrey Norman
Liners by award-winning music journalist David Fricke
Artwork by Dave Van Patten
Individually Numbered, Limited Edition Of 12,500

“Welcome to the unique, enduring phenomenon of the Grateful Dead in New York City, a mutual devotion, forged in concert, that ran for nearly as long as the band itself—from June 1, 1967, a free show in Tompkins Square Park on the Lower East Side (ahead of the band’s official, local bow at the Cafe Au Go Go), to the Dead’s last Garden run, six nights in October 1994…the Dead’s affinity for New York City…was instant and arguably their most profound with any city aside from San Francisco.” - David Fricke

They got on the bus to the Port Authority, rode in on the Long Island Railroad and the New Jersey Transit line. They traveled North, South, and West on the 1, 2, and 3 subway lines, their numbers growing as they descended upon Penn Station. Some rolled up in those iconic New York yellows. Some walked excitedly through the bright lights of Broadway and Times Square, meeting up with old friends on the way and picking up a few new ones too as they ascended The Garden's stairs. Maybe you were among them - lightly buzzed on the way in, fully aglow on the way home. New York City was in its prime and damn if the Grateful Dead wasn't going to rise up to meet it! If you were there, we call on you to join us as we recapture that MSG magic and if you weren't, we invite you along on the epic journey that is IN AND OUT OF THE GARDEN: MADISON SQUARE GARDEN '81 '82 '83.

Numbered and limited-edition to 12,500, this 17CD set celebrates the band’s rich history at “the world’s most famous arena,” introducing six previously unreleased shows recorded at MSG between 1981 and 1983. It offers a front-row seat to the Dead in the early 1980s, an overlooked and underestimated era of rebirth for the band. At the time of the recordings, the group featured Brent Mydland. Mydland’s vocal power and colorful keyboard palette energized the band, invigorating older material like “The Wheel,” “Truckin’” and “Eyes of The World.” He also gave the band more musical flexibility, which encouraged them to dust off rarely aired treasures like “Dupree’s Diamond Blues” and “Crazy Fingers.”

IN AND OUT OF THE GARDEN touches on the three-year period after 1980’s GO TO HEAVEN was released, a time when the Dead were constantly on the road, playing more than 200 dates. While they were in no rush to return to the studio during this time, they continued to write new music. In 1982 and ’83, the band performed most of the songs that would appear on 1987’s IN THE DARK. The new collection includes performances of four songs from that album – “Touch Of Grey,” “Hell In A Bucket,” “Throwing Stones,” and “West L.A. Fadeaway” – plus the B-side, “My Brother Esau.”

Due September 23rd, IN AND OUT OF THE GARDEN comes in a custom box featuring new artwork by Dave Van Patten celebrating the band’s eclectic fanbase, with a cavalcade of illustrated Dead Heads. The collection also includes detailed liner notes by award-winning music journalist David Fricke, who explores the band’s connection to the Big Apple. It features newly restored and speed-corrected audio by Plangent Processes, mastered by Jeffrey Norman.

Hey August I've been spinning 9/20/82. The very beginning of Shakedown sounds like they're all tuning up and getting the mix, but then it settles in very nicely and the Shakedown has all players well balanced. Hot Shakedown>Mingle one-two. I just listened to the Scarlet>Fire last night and it is excellent also. I'm liking this box more and more.

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Anyone still on the fence on this I would jump on this. If you like early 80's Dead, this will not disappoint. I love it. Such great variety and the sound quality to my ears is 5 dancing bears! Just fantastic. Revisited 3/9/81 and this show smokes. The first set Deep Elem Blues, Birdsong! So good. Second set China Rider and the Estimatesd UJB is what this band is all about. So glad they put this one out.
Only complaint, they didn't include the 79 MSG shows.

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Just ordered the vinyl copy of 3/9/81 from Experience Vinyl (125 bucks).

I'm guessing the Dead never released this on vinyl,,,, I don't have a copy in stock.!?

I lost a chunk of emails,,,, this order (in cd's) would have been in that chunk. I would have thought if it was available on vinyl I would have bought when I ordered the cd's.

But I can find NOTHING to show this has ever been released on vinyl.

Am I nuts or did I just spend more of my wife's hard earned money!

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Spinning 9/20/82 today and it's really hitting the spot! So much magic in this MSG box. It's been in reagular rotation since the day I recieved it. I really like how they switch things up with the multi night, muti year run from a particular venue.

Also, if you've been hesitant about getting this because of reading post about sound quality, era, or performance quality, don't listen!!! If you like early 80's Dead, wait no more!

I get not liking an era but it seems a lot of posters (not all) come out in immediate protest of anything post 78.

Anyway, if you like this era, I promise this box won't disappoint! and no, I don't know DL or work for Rhino.

Rock on, gang!

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In the past few weeks I've given the '82 and '83 shows a relisten and with each I had the same thought, "Oh geez, I forgot how much fun this one is! I've got to get on dead net and spread the word......"

But I'm a bit biased with towards post 70s GD. The ritualistic approach they kept with from '79 onward simply works and one I'll never tire of. Although, does fall into the whole, 'for those that understand no explanation is needed; for those that don't, none is possible'. Seems the majority of the people that really dig 80s and 90s Grateful Dead are those that saw them in that period. Makes sense.

Of the four shows, I'd say 10/12/83 stood out the most for me this time around. Because of the Help>Slip>Franklins. Has to be one of the better post '77 versions out there. Certainly one of the longest Slipknots from the 80s and 90s. Which is the part that counts most ; -)

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