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    Madison Square Garden 3/9/81
    Madison Square Garden 3/10/81
    Madison Square Garden 9/20/82
    Madison Square Garden 9/21/82
    Madison Square Garden 10/11/83
    Madison Square Garden 10/12/83
    Newly restored and speed-corrected audio by Plangent Processes
    Mastered by Jeffrey Norman
    Liners by award-winning music journalist David Fricke
    Artwork by Dave Van Patten
    Individually Numbered, Limited Edition Of 12,500

    “Welcome to the unique, enduring phenomenon of the Grateful Dead in New York City, a mutual devotion, forged in concert, that ran for nearly as long as the band itself—from June 1, 1967, a free show in Tompkins Square Park on the Lower East Side (ahead of the band’s official, local bow at the Cafe Au Go Go), to the Dead’s last Garden run, six nights in October 1994…the Dead’s affinity for New York City…was instant and arguably their most profound with any city aside from San Francisco.” - David Fricke

    They got on the bus to the Port Authority, rode in on the Long Island Railroad and the New Jersey Transit line. They traveled North, South, and West on the 1, 2, and 3 subway lines, their numbers growing as they descended upon Penn Station. Some rolled up in those iconic New York yellows. Some walked excitedly through the bright lights of Broadway and Times Square, meeting up with old friends on the way and picking up a few new ones too as they ascended The Garden's stairs. Maybe you were among them - lightly buzzed on the way in, fully aglow on the way home. New York City was in its prime and damn if the Grateful Dead wasn't going to rise up to meet it! If you were there, we call on you to join us as we recapture that MSG magic and if you weren't, we invite you along on the epic journey that is IN AND OUT OF THE GARDEN: MADISON SQUARE GARDEN '81 '82 '83.

    Numbered and limited-edition to 12,500, this 17CD set celebrates the band’s rich history at “the world’s most famous arena,” introducing six previously unreleased shows recorded at MSG between 1981 and 1983. It offers a front-row seat to the Dead in the early 1980s, an overlooked and underestimated era of rebirth for the band. At the time of the recordings, the group featured Brent Mydland. Mydland’s vocal power and colorful keyboard palette energized the band, invigorating older material like “The Wheel,” “Truckin’” and “Eyes of The World.” He also gave the band more musical flexibility, which encouraged them to dust off rarely aired treasures like “Dupree’s Diamond Blues” and “Crazy Fingers.”

    IN AND OUT OF THE GARDEN touches on the three-year period after 1980’s GO TO HEAVEN was released, a time when the Dead were constantly on the road, playing more than 200 dates. While they were in no rush to return to the studio during this time, they continued to write new music. In 1982 and ’83, the band performed most of the songs that would appear on 1987’s IN THE DARK. The new collection includes performances of four songs from that album – “Touch Of Grey,” “Hell In A Bucket,” “Throwing Stones,” and “West L.A. Fadeaway” – plus the B-side, “My Brother Esau.”

    Due September 23rd, IN AND OUT OF THE GARDEN comes in a custom box featuring new artwork by Dave Van Patten celebrating the band’s eclectic fanbase, with a cavalcade of illustrated Dead Heads. The collection also includes detailed liner notes by award-winning music journalist David Fricke, who explores the band’s connection to the Big Apple. It features newly restored and speed-corrected audio by Plangent Processes, mastered by Jeffrey Norman.

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  • Charlie3
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    Domestic Shipping

    I checked, and it looks like this year domestic shipping for the Garden Box is $15.00 and it looks like I paid $7.50 for shipping on the St. Louis box. Doubled.

  • wilfredtjones
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    shipping costs question

    Have shipping costs increased similarly (on a percentage basis) for domestic orders? I thought my eyebrows went up too when I saw price+shipping but can't remember if it indeed increased comparably.

    -edit- Thanks Charlie3. Looks like shipping for LTTR + shirt last year for me was $12, and for the Garden + DaP 43 Glass this year for me is $27.

  • stillwaters
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    Marye!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Can you please tell us why the shipping charges are $70.00 for our international brothers and sisters?

  • icecrmcnkd
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    WTF is going on at Dead net/Rhino

    $70 international shipping for the MSG Box but a similar Box at Rhino ships for $16?

    A 10% off coupon code that actually works for the MSG Box, but no official announcement for it so that everyone can use it?
    I had already placed my order, so I paid full price.

    Talk about biting the hand that feeds you.

  • simonrob
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    Now I'm totally confused...

    I was wondering if the ridiculous international shipping charge for the box set was down to dead.net or Rhino.

    I visited the Rhino store and found an almost identical box set: Chicago at Carnegie Hall complete - a 16 CD box set with books etc. for $179.98. I duly put one in the cart and headed for the checkout. Every screen was identical to those on dead.net which is not surprising. Having entered my details I then saw that the international shipping charge was... $15.99.

    So why is the international shipping charge for this box set from dead.net set at $70 while an almost identical box set from Rhino.com costs $15.99?

    Someone's having a laugh at the customer's expense.

  • jpo
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    Future of the Deadnet market in Europe

    I don't know the exact purpose of Deadnet/Rhino's commercial policy, but what I do know is that they do nothing to maintain their market. In fact, from all the information I was able to gather, many customers decided to stop buying anything from Deadnet. For me, because of the delirious price of transport and the laxity concerning the wording of the invoices according to the country , boxes are now becoming unaffordable.
    When I decided to buy the 71 box, at checkout, the price of transport had suddenly exploded ... result? it was not for me whereas until now I had all the concerts released since the beginning of Deadnet. I regret it.
    Around me and in many European countries I was not the only one to proceed like this.
    What does Deadnet/Rhino want...maybe after all they no longer want to maintain their turnover but surely try to sell less while maintaining the same profit !!!
    Of all the purchases that I have been able to and continue to make in the 4 corners of the world, I have never met sellers so radical in their ways of proceeding.
    Although I'm sure I won't get a response:
    Please Deadnet/Rhino can you clarify exactly what your purpose is? In this way, and in your forum, you will no longer receive messages of dissatisfaction from your new old customers.
    How sad ...!
    However, I remain optimistic about your awareness. I would like not to dream too much...
    Jean Pierre

  • Dogon
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    Simonrob, shipping

    Just ordered 69 Daves, a la carte since I am no longer subscribing, international shipping, $15.99.
    That is what they charged last time for this years whole subscription, so perhaps you are correct.
    $70 for this new box is f*cked, especially when we in Europe are forced to consider all VAT/import duties (at least 25%)/sundry opaque shippers fees, charged on the WHOLE transaction, ie price of box and shipping fees, not to mention the radically worsened exchange rate.....Oh, did I mention I wont be buying it?

    On the other hand perhaps the box will actually arrive in a timely fashion? or at least arrive at all...

  • Alan57
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    450% Increase

    The international shipping price represents a 450% increase in 12 months.Either the carrier is trying to scam Dead.net in which case they should find another carrier or Dead.net is trying to scam the fans in which case they should be ashamed.These prices in no way reflect what any other retailers are charging.
    They should fix it but I have no faith they will.Looks like they’re happy to lose most of their international customers.

  • bluecrow
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    seems like there's a mistake . . .

    . . . on the $70

    hopefully it gets fixed soon.

  • Vguy72
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    Highway robbery if you ask me....

    ....I feel for all you overseas heads. $70 is fucked up.

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WHAT'S INSIDE:
Madison Square Garden 3/9/81
Madison Square Garden 3/10/81
Madison Square Garden 9/20/82
Madison Square Garden 9/21/82
Madison Square Garden 10/11/83
Madison Square Garden 10/12/83
Newly restored and speed-corrected audio by Plangent Processes
Mastered by Jeffrey Norman
Liners by award-winning music journalist David Fricke
Artwork by Dave Van Patten
Individually Numbered, Limited Edition Of 12,500

“Welcome to the unique, enduring phenomenon of the Grateful Dead in New York City, a mutual devotion, forged in concert, that ran for nearly as long as the band itself—from June 1, 1967, a free show in Tompkins Square Park on the Lower East Side (ahead of the band’s official, local bow at the Cafe Au Go Go), to the Dead’s last Garden run, six nights in October 1994…the Dead’s affinity for New York City…was instant and arguably their most profound with any city aside from San Francisco.” - David Fricke

They got on the bus to the Port Authority, rode in on the Long Island Railroad and the New Jersey Transit line. They traveled North, South, and West on the 1, 2, and 3 subway lines, their numbers growing as they descended upon Penn Station. Some rolled up in those iconic New York yellows. Some walked excitedly through the bright lights of Broadway and Times Square, meeting up with old friends on the way and picking up a few new ones too as they ascended The Garden's stairs. Maybe you were among them - lightly buzzed on the way in, fully aglow on the way home. New York City was in its prime and damn if the Grateful Dead wasn't going to rise up to meet it! If you were there, we call on you to join us as we recapture that MSG magic and if you weren't, we invite you along on the epic journey that is IN AND OUT OF THE GARDEN: MADISON SQUARE GARDEN '81 '82 '83.

Numbered and limited-edition to 12,500, this 17CD set celebrates the band’s rich history at “the world’s most famous arena,” introducing six previously unreleased shows recorded at MSG between 1981 and 1983. It offers a front-row seat to the Dead in the early 1980s, an overlooked and underestimated era of rebirth for the band. At the time of the recordings, the group featured Brent Mydland. Mydland’s vocal power and colorful keyboard palette energized the band, invigorating older material like “The Wheel,” “Truckin’” and “Eyes of The World.” He also gave the band more musical flexibility, which encouraged them to dust off rarely aired treasures like “Dupree’s Diamond Blues” and “Crazy Fingers.”

IN AND OUT OF THE GARDEN touches on the three-year period after 1980’s GO TO HEAVEN was released, a time when the Dead were constantly on the road, playing more than 200 dates. While they were in no rush to return to the studio during this time, they continued to write new music. In 1982 and ’83, the band performed most of the songs that would appear on 1987’s IN THE DARK. The new collection includes performances of four songs from that album – “Touch Of Grey,” “Hell In A Bucket,” “Throwing Stones,” and “West L.A. Fadeaway” – plus the B-side, “My Brother Esau.”

Due September 23rd, IN AND OUT OF THE GARDEN comes in a custom box featuring new artwork by Dave Van Patten celebrating the band’s eclectic fanbase, with a cavalcade of illustrated Dead Heads. The collection also includes detailed liner notes by award-winning music journalist David Fricke, who explores the band’s connection to the Big Apple. It features newly restored and speed-corrected audio by Plangent Processes, mastered by Jeffrey Norman.

Hey August I've been spinning 9/20/82. The very beginning of Shakedown sounds like they're all tuning up and getting the mix, but then it settles in very nicely and the Shakedown has all players well balanced. Hot Shakedown>Mingle one-two. I just listened to the Scarlet>Fire last night and it is excellent also. I'm liking this box more and more.

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Anyone still on the fence on this I would jump on this. If you like early 80's Dead, this will not disappoint. I love it. Such great variety and the sound quality to my ears is 5 dancing bears! Just fantastic. Revisited 3/9/81 and this show smokes. The first set Deep Elem Blues, Birdsong! So good. Second set China Rider and the Estimatesd UJB is what this band is all about. So glad they put this one out.
Only complaint, they didn't include the 79 MSG shows.

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Just ordered the vinyl copy of 3/9/81 from Experience Vinyl (125 bucks).

I'm guessing the Dead never released this on vinyl,,,, I don't have a copy in stock.!?

I lost a chunk of emails,,,, this order (in cd's) would have been in that chunk. I would have thought if it was available on vinyl I would have bought when I ordered the cd's.

But I can find NOTHING to show this has ever been released on vinyl.

Am I nuts or did I just spend more of my wife's hard earned money!

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Spinning 9/20/82 today and it's really hitting the spot! So much magic in this MSG box. It's been in reagular rotation since the day I recieved it. I really like how they switch things up with the multi night, muti year run from a particular venue.

Also, if you've been hesitant about getting this because of reading post about sound quality, era, or performance quality, don't listen!!! If you like early 80's Dead, wait no more!

I get not liking an era but it seems a lot of posters (not all) come out in immediate protest of anything post 78.

Anyway, if you like this era, I promise this box won't disappoint! and no, I don't know DL or work for Rhino.

Rock on, gang!

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In the past few weeks I've given the '82 and '83 shows a relisten and with each I had the same thought, "Oh geez, I forgot how much fun this one is! I've got to get on dead net and spread the word......"

But I'm a bit biased with towards post 70s GD. The ritualistic approach they kept with from '79 onward simply works and one I'll never tire of. Although, does fall into the whole, 'for those that understand no explanation is needed; for those that don't, none is possible'. Seems the majority of the people that really dig 80s and 90s Grateful Dead are those that saw them in that period. Makes sense.

Of the four shows, I'd say 10/12/83 stood out the most for me this time around. Because of the Help>Slip>Franklins. Has to be one of the better post '77 versions out there. Certainly one of the longest Slipknots from the 80s and 90s. Which is the part that counts most ; -)

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