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    July 1978: The Complete Recordings

    What's Inside:

    • Five Complete Shows on 12 discs
    • 7/1/78 Arrowhead Stadium: Kansas City, MO
    • 7/3/78 St. Paul Civic Center Arena: St. Paul, MN
    • 7/5/78 Omaha Civic Auditorium: Omaha, NE
    • 7/7/78 Red Rocks Amphitheatre: Morrison, CO
    • 7/8/78 Red Rocks Amphitheatre: Morrison, CO
    Mastered in HDCD by Jeffrey Norman
    Artwork by esteemed cartoonist Paul Pope
    Intro and show-by-show liner notes by Nicholas Meriwether
    Producer's Note by David Lemieux
    Individually Numbered, Limited Edition of 15,000
    Release Date: May 13, 2016

    Announcing July 1978: The Complete Recordings

    We’re pleased to announce JULY 1978: THE COMPLETE RECORDINGS, five incredible unreleased shows and the first official release from the long-lost tapes, recently returned to the Grateful Dead’s vault. Follow the Dead on a sonic journey through a superb selection of settings, an often epic adventure that finds them winning over Willie and Waylon fans in Kansas City, conjuring charisma in Omaha, and elevating the Red Rocks beyond their already spiritual planes. With five distinct performances painting the masterpiece of 1978, Betty Cantor-Jackson's always-pristine soundboard recordings, and the "hall-of-fame pedigree" of the Dead's first-ever shows at the legendary Red Rocks Amphitheatre, this is one release that far exceeds excellence in music, sound quality, and rarity.

    Limited to 15,000 individually numbered copies, JULY 1978: THE COMPLETE RECORDINGS includes Arrowhead Stadium, Kansas City, MO (7/1/78), St. Paul Civic Center, St. Paul, MN (7/3/78), Omaha Civic Auditorium, Omaha, NE (7/5/78), and Red Rocks Amphitheater, Morrison CO (7/7/78 and 7/8/78) - all of the performances in this collection are drawn from the band’s master soundboard recordings, each newly mastered by Jeffrey Norman. The set also features original artwork by esteemed cartoonist Paul Pope (D.C. and Marvel comics) and in-depth liner notes written by Nick Meriwether (Grateful Dead Archives at the University of California, Santa Cruz), as well as a producer’s note from producer David Lemieux.

    Due May 13th, we anticipate that this extraordinary box will sell out. Your best bet is to pre-order it now, then sit back, relax, and enjoy all the exclusive content we'll be rolling out over the next few weeks right here.

    Looking for something a little more byte-sized? The collection will also be available for HD digital download in FLAC and ALAC, exclusively at dead.net, on release day.

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  • Bach 2 Bach
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    I like both kinds of music...
    Grateful Dead, and everything else. Zuck- brilliant pepper post. Oroboros- Thank you for your service to our country.
  • wilfredtjones
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    this magical box set
    Oroboros, Didn't you give your statue to Jerry in Omaha? http://www.dead.net/show/july-5-1978 The shows that are essentially new to me are KC and St. Paul. I read about the Omaha show on Dead.net and picked up the audience copy. The soundboard will be a very welcome upgrade. I wonder how they did patch-wise with 7/8. The matrix will be very hard to top in my book, it fills in the missing places on the soundboard. It also incorporates the audience into the recording. The first track with the tuning and fooling around looks like it is missing here. http://relisten.net/grateful-dead/1978/7/8-4/getting-everything-just-ex… Is 7/7 mono or not? I seem to have missed discussion of that. Finally, the Wharf Rat on the listening party sounds great! Thanks Dead.net! Hooray!
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    I never thought I'd see this released, since word was there were
    not boards from Omaha and the first night of Red Rocks was mono-only. Tremendous that boards have surfaced. It reminds me of my old chestnut of a story, AND since I didn't get to write the liner notes, here is a preview for those few that haven't heard it. That summer of 1978, when the Dead did actually did circle back to Nebraska......... They played the Omaha Civic Auditorium, where the Dead played once before in 1973.. We got there and the venue was half full (about 4,000) but everyone was chomping at the bit in anticipation to hear them live. I took my Nak 550 into the venue and there was no hassle getting the deck in this time, but remember these were the days before ‘tapers sections’. And each venue or even staff may present a different challenge. But not here, thank goodness. Out in the hallway, the Hell’s Angels wandered about sporting full colors and big grins. They may have been transporting ‘party favors’ and decided to take in a show. Or maybe the Angels were just road tripping with the band (although I didn't see them at the next few shows). My buddy even brought his 68 year old mother to the show. She sat up in the stands “It is just too loud down there!” Anyway, I headed down to the floor with my Nak 550 to set up in front of the soundboard. When I started to get my gear set up and saw this guy beside me with a great rig. Luckily this kind stranger (I have since discovered he was famous taper Bob Wagner) then let me patch out of the back of his deck, which was wonderful as he had a great 8 ft. tall mike stand set-up. He had a Sony deck and mics, but with that high stand his mic’s were well above the crowd noise. We were about 15 to 20 feet in FOB. So Garcia treated us to a blistering Sugaree opener, the kind that drove the crowd wild. His leads mounted into a wave that crests, recedes, regroups, and comes back rolling in with such power and delight that adds a synergistic effect to our frenzied response as his rolling/soaring guitar work lift and subside with the band. Then Beat In on Down the Line, TLEO and now it was Bob’s turn in the spotlight with a Look’s like Rain. About halfway through the song, I suddenly noticed something shimmering in the air between the band and me. I thought “what a fantastic light show! Or have I have shifted into fifth gear just a little early that I scheduled?” I staggered towards that disturbance in front of me to investigate. People were dancing wildly in the middle of the floor as a waterfall played over them. It was about 25 feet in circumference. I put my hand in, water…hand out, no rain..I am standing in front of an indoor waterfall. what to do? I jumped into pouring rain that was INSIDE the middle of the auditorium! Then I stepped back and was out of it. I shook my head and then lunged back into the deluge and danced through Looks Like Rain & then during Direwolf as well and a delightful All Over now. (Complete with Donna in perfect pitch!) Then Candyman and Lazy>Supplication before Bobby informed us “We’re going to take a short break”. I staggered back to reload a new tape and then I did look for some validation of my experience. And I asked my friends if I was not in fact ‘soaking wet’ as I patted my soaked shirt. They grinned knowingly and affirmed that, yes, in fact I was “all wet”. And then this unique show continued, (nice indoor water-feature, boys !) with a killer second set complete with a transportive Estimated> Eyes> drums> Wharf Rat> Truckin> Iko Iko> Around. And then after a lengthy absence from the stage the boys returned to play us ‘Promised Land” as an encore. As I left the auditorium I noticed the water standing on the ground outside, a summer storm? Was this a case of a leaky roof or didn't the Dead just conjure up the forces of nature as they were so prone to do? But back to the important stuff, what were the Dead going to do next? Would Phil rev up his reverse gravity machine and pummel us with Phil-bombs at the next show? Would they levitate the crowd, and have us all dance while floating in the 'cool Colorado range'? I HAD to follow them to those Red Rocks shows in 1978. So a road-trip to Colorado it was. This was the Dead’s first Red Rocks jaunt (and my first as well, although my girlfriend (now wife) had seen Joni Mitchell there previously and raved about the venue) so my anticipation was so ‘high’. (In many ways.) So I packed my taping and camping gear and off we went. When we walked up to the Rocks entrance, the Feyline security crew (or were they the John Scher guys?) were stopping people and inspecting any 'carry in' bags. A security behemoth that I will call “BigBoy’ stopped me at the entrance to look through my Boy Scout backpack. He hefted my NAK 550 out of the pack and held it aloft with one beefy paw, exclaiming “Hey, you can’t take this in!” I gave him my best perplexed look and said “What? It’s just a tape player.” (first lie) Then the giant BigBoy instructs me to “take that back to your car”. I retorted “I can’t, I hitchhiked to the show” (second lie). Beefy Bruiser BigBoy points to my ticket and says “the ticket says no recorders on it, you can't take it in” and I tell him “look, I don’t have any microphones” (third lie) and hold up my arms to be searched (of course my comrades had the mics with them). Then I sighed loudly and popped open the back of the Nak deck and let eight D cell batteries drop onto the ground. “Look, I dumped out the batteries, it can't record”. (lie number four) BigBoy stood there with his arms crossed in front of me, but I could see a small crack in his resolve. So I pulled that thread “Look, I hitchhiked all the way here from Nebraska to see this show, would you hold onto this deck for me? It cost me $600 (which in ’78 was a lot of dough) but if you just hold it for me, and then I will find you after the show. You look like an honest guy.” (fifth lie, this guy didn't look trustworthy). I push the Nak towards him, and this deck is huge and weighs a ton, (a goddamn boat anchor). I really played my trump card here and was trying to hold my ‘gameface’, Suddenly all the heads waiting in line behind (and all my friends) erupt with yells at the BigBoy to 'hurry up' and started chanting “let us in”. BigBoy gives his mullet a shake and then he points into the venue and looks at me and exclaims “Go on, get out of here” and I dive headlong into my first Red Rocks show with a grin a mile wide(high)! Followed by Mary with my mics and my buddies with my fresh batteries (re: lie number four) and my blank tapes. The batteries that I dumped out for BigBoy were already ‘dead’ (pun intended). I again ran into that ‘kind stranger’ (Dr. Bob Wagner, FOB right side)) to plug out of his Sony again. Those two shows were stupefying, and the band obviously enjoyed playing there. Bobby's deer joke, and I remember Phil leading the boys through “Cold Rain & Snow” with his bass punching that tune into a triumphant ‘strut’ that evening.I recall Jerry broke a string during the Scarlet>Fire, which really didn't slow the pace of that perfect evening. On into Dancin' >NFA > Black Peter > Around & Around and then a dual encore of US Blues & Johnny B Goode. The next night was much the same. Each night we would watch the clouds chase each other in the sky as the band serenaded us. Until it became dark and then we looked out ‘over’ the Dead to see the distant lights of Denver sparking in the background. Second night second half, we were treated to a tremendous Estimated > Other One> Eyes of the World > drums> Wharf Rat > Franklin's Tower > Sugar Mag. The crowd was especially raucous as Wharf Rat wound to that tender quiet point and Phil (or was it Bobby) gave a "shhhhh" to quiet us in preparation for the wonderful 'launching' platform/crescendo that night. Those evenings the Dead's aural wonders were matched with the Red Rocks astounding visuals as we were perched in between those massive stony slabs jutting into the sky (and the Dead had a good view as well looking back at us from the stage). As the Dead those two evenings took us all on an astounding journey of Americana, myth, rock and roll, country, space, jam, fable, fun, roller coaster, and turn on a dime delights, it all 'rolled into one'. And then as the Dead finished us all off with “Werewolves of London” we were all crooning back to the dead with our own howl of “Aoooooo”. And Garcia was grinning ear to ear as he bid us all a “good night”. Teachers open the door, but you must enter by yourself.
  • dantian
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    Well, I've got a birthday coming up...
    maybe a subtle, or not so subtle hint to the wife will work ;) Not that it's very expensive, just that I've spent quite a bit on music this year already. And she doesn't quite get this obsession...
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    Oroboros - Great story!
  • stoltzfus
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    good call for that 85 box. everyone wins that one, too. GREEK BOX. I'd take out a second mortgage for that.
  • rdevil
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    Dave buzzed in the video? Perhaps. Certainly he was excited enough to play some "air piano" at 9:04. I love these vids. Great release (duh), three "new" soundboards and two long time favorites at an affordable price--that's just exactly perfect. I don't think I've listened to these Red Rocks shows since the old cassette days so it will almost be like hearing them new again. Oroboros--good to hear from you and thanks for the stories. They're worth repeating, especially now; in fact you've got me pretty excited to hear that Omaha show.
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    ...there will be a second box of roughly this size later in this year!Bet it will be '80s too! I don't bet this next part, but I can dream: June '85 East Coast run (6/27-7/2, 5 shows)? Much like this leads to the 7/8/78 "cornerstone" show, the '85 run would feature a "cornerstone" show, 6/30/85. Also, boxes of this size are a decent opportunity to distribute more copies of the 30T CDs. As long as the 30T shows are part of a box, they can re-released on CD! (just not "individually", NEVER "individually"!)Since those shows are already mastered, etc, using them could actually reduce production costs for GDM. I.E., a 6/85 box could include the 30T show 6/24/85... Change is in the air...
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    Mission Accomplished On a more serious note, a big Thanks to Rob Eaton and those behind the scenes for fulfilling the mission. It does seem that if Plangent process is involved, then the Betty reels themselves were restored- and maybe a batch of the missing Betty's have found their way home. Green Chili Valverde- came through in the clutch and exploded those fire peppers in a moment of pure jalapeño triumph. What a glorious day for the Squadron of Breathing Dragons and troops of the Ghost Pepper Regiment. We now raise our banner- "Egg Roll Away The Dew!"
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    Had dinner with Rob last month when DSO was in town, dropped the word on these shows. Don't know how there can be any complaints of releasing these shows, I never even had heard the first 3, I don’t have many audiences from 78' and Red Rocks ranks with my all time favorite shows. Just the passion and joy that was present in Garcia, which kind of carried over from the Spring, just having too much fun. I'm very excited, now if we can get New Haven, Boston, Cornell & Buffalo, that would be another Great May 77' Part duo, Box Set.
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July 1978: The Complete Recordings

What's Inside:

• Five Complete Shows on 12 discs
• 7/1/78 Arrowhead Stadium: Kansas City, MO
• 7/3/78 St. Paul Civic Center Arena: St. Paul, MN
• 7/5/78 Omaha Civic Auditorium: Omaha, NE
• 7/7/78 Red Rocks Amphitheatre: Morrison, CO
• 7/8/78 Red Rocks Amphitheatre: Morrison, CO
Mastered in HDCD by Jeffrey Norman
Artwork by esteemed cartoonist Paul Pope
Intro and show-by-show liner notes by Nicholas Meriwether
Producer's Note by David Lemieux
Individually Numbered, Limited Edition of 15,000
Release Date: May 13, 2016

Announcing July 1978: The Complete Recordings

We’re pleased to announce JULY 1978: THE COMPLETE RECORDINGS, five incredible unreleased shows and the first official release from the long-lost tapes, recently returned to the Grateful Dead’s vault. Follow the Dead on a sonic journey through a superb selection of settings, an often epic adventure that finds them winning over Willie and Waylon fans in Kansas City, conjuring charisma in Omaha, and elevating the Red Rocks beyond their already spiritual planes. With five distinct performances painting the masterpiece of 1978, Betty Cantor-Jackson's always-pristine soundboard recordings, and the "hall-of-fame pedigree" of the Dead's first-ever shows at the legendary Red Rocks Amphitheatre, this is one release that far exceeds excellence in music, sound quality, and rarity.

Limited to 15,000 individually numbered copies, JULY 1978: THE COMPLETE RECORDINGS includes Arrowhead Stadium, Kansas City, MO (7/1/78), St. Paul Civic Center, St. Paul, MN (7/3/78), Omaha Civic Auditorium, Omaha, NE (7/5/78), and Red Rocks Amphitheater, Morrison CO (7/7/78 and 7/8/78) - all of the performances in this collection are drawn from the band’s master soundboard recordings, each newly mastered by Jeffrey Norman. The set also features original artwork by esteemed cartoonist Paul Pope (D.C. and Marvel comics) and in-depth liner notes written by Nick Meriwether (Grateful Dead Archives at the University of California, Santa Cruz), as well as a producer’s note from producer David Lemieux.

Due May 13th, we anticipate that this extraordinary box will sell out. Your best bet is to pre-order it now, then sit back, relax, and enjoy all the exclusive content we'll be rolling out over the next few weeks right here.

Looking for something a little more byte-sized? The collection will also be available for HD digital download in FLAC and ALAC, exclusively at dead.net, on release day.

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I asked my New Hope, PA expert what the word was on the "Now and Then" shop, below is his reply. I have in front of me their ' farewell business card' that we picked up at our last visit to the Now And Then Shop in New Hope, in 2004. The card reads, "FARE THEE WELL 1970-2004 NOW & THEN SHOP COMING SOON WWW.NOWANDTHENSHOP.COM" If you go to that website, the information posted is for a shop they opened in Circleville, Ohio. We read a post in a New Hope blog online with a 2009 date that they were going to open another Now And Then Shop down one of the alleys in New Hope. The spot where the original shop was on Bridge Street right by the water has another business running there now. But we have never found the new Now And Then Shop during our visits to New Hope, so I don't think it ever was opened.
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Good analogy. Danger, Danger Will Robinson! Nice theme for the artwork for if you ask me.
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Since you kindly complimented my use of the word "Enskulled," I am honor-bound to reveal its origin. I got the word from (none other than) Jack Kerouac! His word, that struck & stayed with me, is from his lesser-known bio/travel book: "Vanity of Duluoz." I wouldn't necessarily recommend this book...though it does contain an extremely gritty description of himself, too drunk to move & lying on a disgustingly filthy bar-bathroom toilet floor; and a bunch of total jerks urinating all over him.
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You got it Dennis, the one and only Now and Then Shop. Saw your other posting too of the 'Fare Thee Well' notice - I like it. My folks live in New Hope and I hit the town about once a year and have kept an eye open for the reincarnation, but sadly as you note it doesn't exist there. Oh, the days gone by... Sixtus
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DP19 will be Melkweg. sez me. Exploited's "F the System" is my song of the moment.
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I remember that shop right next to the bridge in New Hope. I live there currently and I have not heard about Now and Then re-opening but you never know. Small world.
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The Now and than shop in New Hope was the front of the building that sold posters bongs and shit for your dorm like a giant Jerry tapestry. The record store in the back was called something else and was a separate store. Remember hearing Patti Smith horses the first time and getting it.
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I got 10/29/77 about 12 years ago or so from a friend - i wore that bootleg out from listening to it so much. Great show, great tape - and i think there are better versions on the archive than what i had. I'm sure there are people more qualified than I to explain why it's not been released (missing masters?) but i sure hope it sees the light of day - MORE than holds it's own to the spring tour....
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Sorry guys. I have been on the bus for 43 years and have, do, and always will, consider myself a dyed in the wool Dead Head! Rock on
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Yup. Really good stuff. Das Haus 10/17/2006. On the archive. Sirius has been playing a lot of Dead & Company lately. Listened to a portion of the Broomfield show today. I realize that I am clearly in the minority, but I don't get it. Doesn't sound good to me at all.
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Ken Goodman - with regard to the skulls on the July '78 Complete Recordings box set, I have to agree with you - this is too much. As far as the Dave's Picks series goes, I think the skeletons date back to a conversation that Dave Lemieux and Dr. Rhino had with Bob Weir and Phil Lesh at some point near the end of the Road Trips series....... Dr. Rhino: The thing is gentlemen, partial shows just don't sell as well as complete shows, regardless of the quality. Bob Weir: That's what I've been saying all along man, the Deadheads may be okay with partial releases, but the DeadFREAKs want complete shows, because they GET it. Dave L: I agree. I was never too keen on partial releases, except maybe for unavoidable circumstances, like an incomplete recording, or a bad tape reel. I think folks have begun to make some assumptions about what a Road Trips release IS, and what it is NOT; and unfortunately, it doesn't matter how many complete show Road Trips we put out at this point, the damage is done. Dr. Rhino: Dave's right. And I should add - you slap a skeleton on the front cover of these things, and they sell like hot cakes. Phil: What do you propose then? Dr Rhino: Makeover. We cancel Road Trips and just start fresh. We put a new series together of complete shows only; if there is extra room, we'll put some killer filler on it from a related show, we'll get back-to-basics on the artwork - Phil [Interrupting]: Meaning? Dr. Rhino: Skeletons, lots of skeletons. Bob Weir: Bears don't sell? Phil: We know this? Dr. Rhino: well, SKULL and Roses.... Phil [thoughtful]: Go on.... Dave L: I have that May 25th '77 show from the Mosque on standby for just such an occasion. It was the day the original Star Wars was released, so we can do Darth Vader and Obi Wan Kenobi having a light saber duel on the cover, wearing Tie Dyes with Steal Your Face emblems, and - Bob Weir: Not good enough. Dave L: Pardon? Bob Weir: T-shirts ain't good enough. Just depict two skeletons having a light saber duel, one red, one blue. Dave L: Red and blue skeletons? Bob Weir: Red and blue light sabers. Dave L [clapping hands and rubbing them together]: Oh yeah, right right right. Bob Weir: or better yet, just a close-up of two skeleton hands clashing red and blue light sabers. Phil: Except the light sabers are drum sticks! Dave L [wide-eyed]: Just exactly perfect! Bob Weir [scowling at Lemieux]: I say that. Dave L: Pardon? Bob Weir: "Just exactly perfect" - that's my line. You start sayin' it, people will start thinking it's okay to cop my lines and use them in any old context they want. Before you know it, some moof-milker will be posting it all over that ridiculous message board. Phil: what message board? Bob Weir: You know, that one where we sell the CDs. Dave L [eager to please]: Sorry boss, I was just excited about the - Bob Weir: How do we market it Doc? Dr. Rhino: Limited edition sells. Limited edition, with lots and lots of skeletons. Dave L: Skeletons in space, skeletons with top hats, skeletons leaning on fancy cars, skeletons in coat tails, skeleton skaters, skeletons with Pigpen's hat, posing as the Statue of Liberty.... Bob Weir: That may be skeleton overkill - throw in an alligator. Dr. Rhino: What? Bob Weir [laughing]: A goddam alligator, like the one living at the Academy of Music under rows EE and FF, seats 4, 5, and 6. Dave L: and we can have him sitting out in the noon-day sun wearing Pigpen's hat - Bob Weir [glaring at Dave, then pensive]: Okay. Phil: Do alligators sell? Dr Rhino: Skeletons sell. Bob Weir: Can't we just have the artist put an old skeleton bone on the road next to the alligator, for fuck's sake? Dr Rhino: Skulls in particular. Bob Weir: Make it from an animal then - keep the alligator, but enskull the picture with a dead elk's head or something. Phil: Skeletons it is... Dave L: Skeletons with bears, skeletons with angel's wings....how about a trio of skeletons playing acoustic guitars?....or how about this - a skeleton Wizard Of Oz theme for the '72 Kansas show – Bob Weir: We played in Kansas? Dave L: Just once, in Wichita. Bob Weir: Hey Phil, did we play Jack Straw there? Phil: We’d be dicks if we didn’t. Bob Weir: Well did we? Dave L: Skeletons picking up trolley cars, skeletons dancing with hippie chicks……
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That's my combo todayAnybody heard Dave Grier I Have the House to Myself? Fine CD. I just got turned on to it. Sprinkle in some Norman Blake and shows from July 78 and a pinch of 72 Makes for a good day of tunes PS keithfan.......very funny! Now I have to clean up a pee stain from too hardy laughing!
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I also took a break today from my endless and unrelenting tour of July '78. I listened to DaP16, which occurred 3 days before my first ever GD show. I tried to think back to what I was going through back then. Ah, the good old days, when I was neither good nor old! Lol. Rock on
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Effing brilliant. Thanks for that. EDIT - you should send that to Dr. Rhino and Dave. Everybody needs a laugh now and then.
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KeithFan...this made me laugh out loud multiple times during my initial read as well as subsequent reads. I needed this today. Thank you. Also, wow, very interesting that people are familiar with this little record store in New Hope that went out of business so many years ago. Such were the locales back then wherein we'd descend collectively upon an outlet which housed our highly sought after artifacts, even if we didn't necessarily know what we were purchasing at the moment in terms of quality. The true 'caveat emptor', I'll say! Sixtus
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Hats off. Really funny stuff.. I am looking to see if the video is still out on YouTube. Edit: As I suspected.. the YouTube of the Phil/Bobby/Dr. Rhino's strategy meeting has been removed at the request of PETA. Something about Bob's beard and cruelty to raccoons. Oh well, at least KeithFan was kind enough to send the transcript. AngryJack.. I casually listened to that show today on Sirius, but not with any focus. I guess I will have to start it over and relisten. Really nice piano solo on Peggy-O. Edit #2: The jam out of he's gone through the end of Eyes of the world is pretty hot. Chimenti is on fire.
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Very funny,,,, I assume this was made up, right? Can somebody dub this into the hitler video or the video with the husband and wife talking about how he needs more space. Sent off to several friends that don't read this forum.
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funny you should mention bob's beard,,,, while we were watching the show from bonnaroo the other night my wife said, "ok somebody needs to tell bob to shave off the fucking beard and get a real haircut" There are things you see sometimes that make you think, "did you look in a mirror and decided that looked good?"
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You guys are cracking me up today. General #3 (Phil)- "Do Aligators Sell?" Hitler (very agitated) yelling - "Skeletons Sell, Dummkopf!" General #4 (Bobby) - "I thought Dancing Bears moved product" Hitler (steaming, veins popping from his neck and spit flying) - "Look.. its not that ficken complicated.. Skulls and Skeletons Sell Arschfotze"
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Call me whatcha want, just don't call me late to ..... a 1968 DaP 19!!!!!!!!!!! Tough thing is, 68s tend to be supernovas that explode and die in the 1-2 disc range. If it's something different, which I think Dave said or I've mindlessly repeated what someone else said (I'd NEVER do that), then perhaps (3) full, one-disc 68 shows or a 2-disc and 1-disc companion. The logic, however, for releasing 1966-70 is a bit tough, being that the # of shows in the vault for each of those years must be rather meager. I could see doing something in 2018 for a 50th anniv. of 68, but who knows how Dave's mind works, except for the happy hype, which I don't begrudge him. He's excited to be doing this and he does have a nice rhythm and fondness for surprises. Must be a fun job, except I'd never listen to a show a dozen times. Once and I'm onboard or indifferent. I do like the returned tapes theory, despite the 78 box. (Yes, more Bettys to come, it seems.) Maybe it's a 2-disc show, w/ a companion disc that's not closely related in time. But what's the logic there? Just hand over a hot 71 Pigpen-saturated show and I'll pipe down. Ah, succumbing to making empty threats... Just call me a hendrix, allmans, band, GD, roy buchanan freak/head/grapefruit. Glad to hear that cat's wife is healing from her car accident. We need to hear the word "healing" more often.
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dennis willmot -yeah, made it up for sure - I guess I should clarify that as I used real people's names. In real life, they said none of those things (to my knowledge). claney, I would send it to dr rhino and dave lemieux, as you suggest for a laugh, but I used so much context from things written by folks in today's posts here, that I don't think the good doctor and vault keeper would be able to appreciate it quite as much as the rest of us, who actually read ken goodman's post about being tired of the skull artwork (and his made-up classic term "enskulled", which I agree with One Man - it's one of the best made-up words in recent history; or JimInMD's term "killer filler", as well as rdevil's "deadhead" vs "deadfreak" distinction. of course, if DaP 19 features a skeleton dancing with a hippie chick, you guys may question my true identity....
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"Bob Weir [glaring at Dave, then pensive]: Okay." LOL No worries about sending this is to Dave and Rhino - I think it's safe to say that if its on this board they've seen it. "Oh I never look at that board" - ya right...
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Yep, someone from these very boards recommended this one a year or so ago, and it rocketed to the top of my list of unreleased shows. This is just one of the many benefits of prowling around here -- sage advice from experts. Also -- more skulls please.
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Some have said -- I'm not saying it, but people have said it -- that Bobby got into hiding behind the beard and long hair and dabbled a bit too much in meds in an unconscious shadowing of his buddy, Jer. Of course, sometimes a beard is just a beard... The Bobby/werewolf look is a pungent reminder of that fresh-faced kid with the guitar I saw first in '72 who didn't have a whisker on him, and now we're all getting to be graybeards... Course, at that time, Jer was a freshly minted 30 yrs old, not a touch of grey and his green or black t-shirts fit a rather trim youngster. Where does the time go? Sorry Kate, if you're still out there -- not ALL of us are gray or bearded.
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Thanks Keithfan for the Fable of the Skull that Can't Go Away. Even if that roundtable discussion had actually happened, the scene you painted couldn't be more indelibly etched in my mind's eye. Ha! We needed that! PS: Anybody have any idea why the Archive has been down for the last few hours? Hope it's just scheduled maintenance or something. . .
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Who is going to a Riverbend tomorrow or Deer Creek Friday ? I am hoping for "Good Lovin" , "Throwing Stones" , "Sailor -> Saint" at some point Money is on "Help -> Slip -> Franklin's" opener for Friday night at Deer Creek 10.29.77 - primo show, high energy 1st set with 2nd set X-Factor goodness. One of the definitive shows of the year
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That may have been me touting the 10/29/77 - I still consider it THE best show of 1977. Crazy good setlists with Might As Well and Let It Grow bookending set 1, and a long, amazing second set. Not in the vault :( Howard Weiner in his book "1977 Terrapin Nation" calls the 10/29/77 Eyes of the World "run of the mill". I'm guessing from his choices of "best versions" that he prefers the faster "Eyes". My favs are 9/3/77, 10/29/77 because they are so chill and jazzy. My list and his don't gybe (not "jive" - pet peeve #987). Weiner's book is a good read, by the way. Highly recommended. I disagree with a lot of his points, which is why I like it.
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I have heard this same story from several different sources by now.. and I read it on the Internet. I think that makes this a true story, its a matter of facts. As for Bobby "The Lorax" Weir.. I was checking out the second set at Bonnarro on YouTube. A little down the page someone says it looks like Bob just got out of bed. Here is one posters response, "He did just roll out of bed, and forgot to get dressed. I also think he looks like a homeless dude here in Seattle. But ya gotta love the guy...."
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Cow skull...Needs more cow skull.
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getting older means not having to give a fnck also when you got your finances in order. I have contributed to his 401K plenty over the years.
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Reminds me of my favorite biker helmet sticker........ D I L L I G A F meaning: Do I look like I give a fubk
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I embrace the term Deadhead. The term Head to me always signified one who gets high. First got high on LSD and became an acidhead in the summer of 1966. The next day I first got high on pot and became a pothead. Then in 1967 I got high on the Grateful Dead. And the alliteration just rolls off the tongue.
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ended up with extra box set --- looking to get rid of one at a discount! let me know.
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Don't really know if I'm a Deadhead or Deadfreak. All I know is that I am a music lover who finds the music of the Dead and Little Feat to be the finest. My wife and I are off to see Dead and Co next week with my son and his fiance in Bristow, VA. If it is as good as the Bonnaroo show a real good time should be had by all! A lot of seats remain for the show as of tonight. I'm finally up to the 1995 Thirty Trips show and enjoying the 1978 shows quite a lot. We recently revisited the 6/10/73 RFK show - what a gem! Take care...
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I call myself a Dead Head, but I think of myself more along the lines of Dead Freak. What's in a name? Well for one, everyone thinks I'm a pot head because I listen to the Dead - no escaping that, no matter what I call myself - the Dead just have that reputation outside of our circle. Keithfan that was soooooo funny I laughed real loud at work and had to make a lame excuse. Did the title come from Indiana Jones quote? Thin, I read Terrapin Nation, and honestly thought it was a cheap effort. I say that because he selectively covered shows and songs, rather than provide a thorough review. I felt like I was reading an amateur writer who only knew about half of the material of 1977, and dismissed the rest as being unworthy, when it seemed more like it was just unfamiliar to him. Maybe I'm wrong, just giving my impressions. I also didn't agree much with his take on Cornell, specifically what he said about how it would have made the ultimate 1977 live record, and he talked up Scarlet / Fire as being a much better performance than I think it truly is, compared to other '77 versions (5/13, 5/17, 5/21, 5/25). I'm not pointing this out to split hairs over this wonderful piece, but rather to demonstrate that he seemed to pick the "popular" picks, and not really provide any comparative analysis with the lesser known shows. Just seemed like he was out to make a buck and offer less analysis than some of the great reviews I read here (including yours Thin!).
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I have never been a fan of the whole skull motif, craving Dead shirts that have something artistic and discreet. What's with the skulls??? Reminds me of this Monty Python-ish british sketch about Nazis suddenly realizing they are the bad guys because they have skulls everywhere: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hn1VxaMEjRU "Why Skulls?" indeed As for Weiner's book, I hear ya, LoveJerry - his opinions and mine varied greatly on a number of topics, and I wished he'd fleshed out the show commentaries a little more - a la Compendium. But I appreciate his point of view and ramblin' style. It was like a full book of, well, this chatroom (or what is this called???). I'm always interested to find out what nuggets other people highlight, even if I disagree.
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Pretty funny.. I guess we are the baddies.
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Wow, Lots of new weird stuff, they are not going to take away our archive are they? The Dead group will be in Camden the 20th. For a mediocre seat, they are 95 bucks. I don't have scratch. Guess that I will have to get one of my favorite shows and go park where that record store used to be in New Hope, and blast the show in my car with a couple of skeleton and Skull decals on my car.
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I guess I should have mentioned that it wasn't a complete dud, as (like you) I enjoyed reading up on another's opinion of these shows. I just wished I'd borrowed instead of bought:) Okay, any humerous posts Thin? JimInMD? Keithfan? I need more laughs today. How about another round table with Bobby, Phil, Doc, & DL? This time on DaP 19 selection!
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I have been a long time Ryan Adams fan, and there is a TON to dig into, if you are looking to do so. I will say that he, much like the aforementioned Mr. S. King, may need a better editor, as both put out some stuff that makes you go hmmm???? However, 'Heartbreaker' and 'Gold' will always have very special places in my heart, and Adams has said that he intended to make 'Cold Roses' like a Dead record, (just look at the artwork) - in fact, the song 'Rosebud' is a name check of Jerry's guitar. @ AngryJack Re: Dead and Co. - I agree with you 100%. I don't want to bum anyone out who is excited to go and see them, but just the little taste I got before MUATM left me cold. The technical is there, but the spirit is missing. I don't think John Mayer has whatever "it" is, though his intentions are good. I would rather see DSO, if I am going to see a Dead cover band. Just this guy's opinion - I hope all of you going to the shows enjoy the heck outta them! (I am also bitter that they are playing Jiffy Lube Live, formerly Nissan Pavilion, which is my least favorite of all the 'Summer Sheds' I have ever been to, but that's just nitpicky...)
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No fear, the archive is back up and running.. Apparently it was hacked by the Russian Government. 5/7/77 and 5/9/77 have been leaked to Gawker.com. Putin is a big fan of 1977 Grateful Dead and visits this forum regularly under a pseudonym. Go figure.
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Whichever one they pick it's going to include "Alabama Getaway" Today's road trip music will be... 6.26.88 :) Depending on traffic maybe sneak in a little of 5.23.82 :) Mickey and Billy f%cking Rock !!
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Exactly my point on Dead & Company. The music meanders aimlessly and simply never grabs me. I hope everyone who is attending enjoys it, but I won't be going. All this Ryan Adams talk has got me listening quite a bit to him again. Really good stuff. Too bad about the Russians and 5/7/77. I was listening to that show on the commute this morning and forgot how great it is. The Mingleweir is simply ferocious.
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Box #3894 finally find his home in thenorthern part of Germany. Delay was caused by costumers who had it more than 14 days in stock. Additional taxes paid: EUR 21,60. All CDs are in their pockets, everything looks fine at the moment. Will sort out the music later. Gar-see-ya JJ
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Are we talking Summer of '69 Ryan Adams, or a new, more recent guy with the same name? What is everyone's thought on DaP 18 from the Orpheum vs 7/8/78? I prefer the '76 show, which surprises me, as I've always preferred '78 shows over '76. I chose the Red Rocks show as the base of comparison, because I regard it as the best show of the lot. What it is about the '76 show that I like, is that it captures a fantastic and rare sound for the Dead, with Jerry's guitar sound, the unusual for '76 jamming, the stand-out performances of several classics (Comes A Time, Johnny B. Goode, One More Saturday Night all vie for best ever in my book), and the stellar performances of songs like Playing, Eyes, GDTRFB (oh boy!), and Mississippi Half-Step. Red Rocks is great too, just not as unique and therefore not as exciting to me.
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LoveJerry...you might have your first names slightly confused! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9f06QZCVUHg Oh and I'm a full-on '76 lover too. It's a close tie between these 78 shows and the recent DaP...I think it most often depends on my mood - am I looking for a wild and crazy over-the-top energetic show, or am I looking for a little mellower vibe....moods dictate! Sixtus
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I've not yet opened my 78 box, because DP31 and DaP18 and various 72 europe shows been in my rotation. So far i really dig the 72 of course. DaP 18 I play often in background and the this release really highlights the keith's playing, both he and the piano are really amped at times in DaP18. I guess I prefer the 72-73 keith, because on DaP18 it even gets ragtimy. Bonus disk and second disc less so but the other two are probably the most piano frenzied dead in my collection.
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