Grateful Dead

Just checked to see where Dave's Picks 34 might be, having recieved the dispatch e-mail 3 ½ weeks ago to find .... 21/05/2020 1:00 United States Package departed international carrier facility. while the previous udate was 01/05/2020 6:17 United States Package processed by international carrier

3 weeks doing not much (Sweet FA springs to mind). I know there are allegedly Covid 19 issues but VMP dispatches from the US are much much quicker.

Ned does Seastones with Phil.

Also try 8/6/74 Roosevelt Stadium, and 10/19/74 Winterland for good Uncle John's from 1974... Bob t

Doublecheck your liner notes...it states - Ned Lagin on "Seastones" and during the 2nd set -

Downloads.

The first attempt at a Download Series didn’t seem to be too popular. I didn’t do it when it started, but I also only had DSL internet at the time that was super slow and unreliable. I also wanted the physical product. I never received a defective Dick’s Picks and never had a problem with an order, so I had no incentive to switch to downloads. Also, my policy was that downloads were for boots, and CD’s were for official releases.
(I did my downloading at work and got around 125-150 GB from the Archive before downloads were blocked).

I still want the physical product and I think that most people do too. But, I wonder if people will eventually run out of patience with defective product, shipping issues, absentee customer service, etc (or just run out of shelf space) and embrace digital downloads.

Hot and mostly sunny here this weekend (3 weeks ago the low was 27 and it snowed), time to get a garden going and do yard work. Heading to Home Depot, I expect it to be quite busy. I’ll wear a mask and only visit the outside garden center.

I'm just a little self conscious of my disc rot. :-P

I didn't read your question closely enough. I'll keep an ear out - it's still in regular rotation.

And now for something completely different-

Every once in awhile some Floyd discussions breakout here. I saw / listened to the '72 Live at Pompeii version of Echoes the other day for the first time - my goodness the soloing from Gilmour is so much louder, aggessive, and distorted than the studio version. I watched it 3x. Need to find that on CD. I may be poised for Floyd run now - it's been years. Still kind of stuck on Gabriel era Genesis - that's going to have to run its course. If anyone's interested in a pretty decent quality live video of Supper's Ready, this band was unreal in '73:

https://youtu.be/vmgQjMGgB9o

Thanks Bobby T.

Original mix , hands down, that's what I grew up with. What's Become of the Baby is a gem, Read Hunter's lyrics someday, they are far out and fantastic! Also, Anthem of The Sun original mix hands down.

after 3+ weeks in limbo, mine now says: 'United States, Package departed international carrier facility'

I’m not hugely bothered with the Beatles remixes though I did buy Sgt Pepper and the White album for the out-takes. Quite a while back I bought Let It Be...Naked which was Paul stripping away the over the top Phil Spector orchestration to leave it a much better album (in my humble opinion). The stripped down version of The Long and Winding Road with just Paul on piano and very light backing is so beautiful it almost has me in tears.

Keithfan2112, check out the individually released 1972 portion of the Pink Floyd Early Years box, 1972 OBFUSC/ATION, it includes the Live at Pompeii performance on DVD and Blu Ray as well as on CD. You are correct, that is some good stuff for sure.

I haven't received mine here in Blighty yet - but I am not worried. I am not following its progress round the world, assuming its making some, but I feel confident that one of these days it will pitch up. All the others have.

I have been listening to a few 1974 shows in preparation, and I have to admit, I do like the way they played and sounded this year. A bit un rock n' roll in a way- no distortion or overdriven guitars-every instrument is crystal clear. Sounds good-not like any other music I listen to. -2/23/74 and Daves 9 - 5/14/74 have graced my stereo recently. And I am tempted by the vinyl edition of 5/19/74, especially now its come down in price a bit. A bit extravagant maybe.

I also much prefer the original mixes of Anthem and Aoxomoxoa-genius. The remixed Anthem is okay, but the remixed Aoxomoxoa sounds as flat as a pancake to me.

Interesting discussion on re-releases of already available titles. I’m sure we all have various and differing reasons to purchase said items, or not to purchase them.
For me, it mostly depends on the band. I have a number of bands/artists that I buy anything that has unreleased material on it. I did finally get hip to just being offered “re/mixed” or “remastered” cds with no bonus material, and quickly decided that I do not need the “same album” over & over again.
And even when it comes to bonus tracks/material, I can now look first and ask myself “do I really need to spend $$ for these 2 songs I don’t have”? The answer often is no.
But one point I wanted to direct to the poster who asked if the 3 Beatles deluxe boxes are worth it. First, take my advice, don’t listen to me.
All 3 sets have LOADS of unreleased material, if that’s your thing. But in addition, the packaging is phenomenal!! And the best non musical part are the books that each set has. I’ve spent hours reading & re-reading these books. They have unreleased photos, and descriptions of the writing & recording of the songs, and much, much more. That stuff is precious to me.
Then again, I have been a huge fan of liner notes since I was a child, and the more written information enclosed, the happier I am.
That’s another reason why I will never accept downloads. I want liner notes!! Cover art too!!
Stay healthy everyone, Music is the Best!!

Speaking of remasters: Just happen to have been listening to George Harrison's 2001 remix of his 1971 All Things Must Pass 3-LP box. It's really more of a deconstruction than a Normanization. He rightfully praises the original, Phil Spector-produced Wall of Sound (er, the other one... er, you know) version. It is refreshing to listen to the tracks that've been seriously stripped down to what George came to consider their essence almost 30 years later (and, sadly, shortly before his death). His 2000 remake of My Sweet Lord is heart-wrenching. Still, before I cued up the new remake, I had to listen to the original – that's the one that's tattooed on my soul in teenage hormones. Without the first one, the second version doesn't make near as much sense.

Harrison's new liner notes further explain the artist's original intent and his subsequent evolution across the arc of his lifetime. Plus the original cover art has been perfectly re-envisioned to mirror issues that became important to Harrison at almost 60. Had to have the box then – still glad to have the new one.

Just about every time, give me the originals I've bonded with, but keep tempting me with new ways to listen to the music (still want to track down Mickey's remaster of Workingman's and American Beauty). And keep the physical releases, liner notes and cover art coming – nothing else comes close. Onward.

...re-do's:
both Dick's Picks 1 and 3 could use a redo.
The Chopping.
So could Dick's Picks 2, for that matter, although I don't know the story of that one. It was only one CD which is curious.

Sixtus

:)))

Yowzah!

https://archive.org/details/gd69-05-23.sbd.kaplan.12223.sbeok.shnf/gd69…

* Complete Setlist
**Disc #1
*First set:
"Promised Land" (Chuck Berry) – 3:44
"Sugaree" (Jerry Garcia, Robert Hunter) – 8:18
"Mexicali Blues" (Bob Weir, John Barlow) – 3:58
"Tennessee Jed" (Garcia, Hunter) – 8:00
"Looks like Rain" (Weir, Barlow) – 8:05
"Don't Ease Me In" (traditional, arranged by Grateful Dead) – 4:24
"Jack Straw" (Weir, Hunter) – 5:32
"They Love Each Other" (Garcia, Hunter) – 5:44
"El Paso" (Marty Robbins) – 4:51
"Row Jimmy" (Garcia, Hunter) – 9:23
**Disc #2
"Playing in the Band" (Weir, Mickey Hart, Hunter) – 18:23
*Second set:
"China Cat Sunflower" (Garcia, Hunter) – 9:11 >
"I Know You Rider" (traditional, arranged by Grateful Dead) – 6:18
"Me and My Uncle" (John Phillips) – 3:34
"Mississippi Half-Step Uptown Toodeloo" (Garcia, Hunter) – 7:30
"Big River" (Johnny Cash) – 4:52
**Disc #3
"Dark Star" (Garcia, Bill Kreutzmann, Phil Lesh, Ron "Pigpen" McKernan, Weir, Hunter) – 15:45 >
"Mind Left Body Jam" (Grateful Dead) – 10:41 >
"Morning Dew" (Bonnie Dobson, Tim Rose) – 13:55
"Sugar Magnolia" (Weir, Hunter) – 10:10
***First encore:
"Eyes of the World" (Garcia, Hunter) – 14:31 >
"Stella Blue" (Garcia, Hunter) – 7:57
***Second encore:
"Johnny B. Goode" (Berry) – 4:08

... this is a Primo Setlist for my liking, it’s mind blowing to say the least how the Dead played from the start of the performance and then bring everything together starting during the second set and the entire Third Disk!!! “H0LY Toledo” !my brothers & sister’s! This Is the “good Old Grateful Dead” at one of their best musical eras in the bands entire career, IMO at least. Rock on everyone, have a grateful day! 🙏❤️💀🌹

"Good morning rockers!" (tip of the hat to Doc)

Sixtus - Totally agree we could use the full shows of DP1 & 3. I'd certainly buy them. And I hope that little bambino of yours is doing well!

Lovemygirl - 10/19/73 is hands down my fav show. At least when you mention it.... LOL. Not saying its the best, just my fav. I save that one for special occasions.

Icecrmconekd - Download series seemed like a collection of 2nd tier shows to me. Good shows! But not great ones. Seemed like they were just dipping their toe in the water as an experiment but didn't want to give up the primo goods in case it didn't fly, which it didn't. I too wasn't enamored with digital product at the time, and actually I'm still not. Digital content depreciates to $0 value the moment you buy it, while CD's have some resale value, especially limited releases which hold 100% of their value or more. That is how I convinced my wife the releases are not "throwing money away".

And imagine my disappointment when I went to buy the Giants Stadium box the other day and was SOLD OUT! Surprised me... I noticed they only ran 10,000 copies of Giants and 15,000 copies of PacNorthwest, which is still for sale after 2+ years. Amazing that Pac/Northwest hasn't sold out despite the higher production run. That is an amazing box. Maybe that'll encourage them to put out more 80's/early 90's..... (Space & RV3, that 's your cue....)

[and again, the reason I rarely post anymore is that I feel like I've aired all my opinions over the years to this mostly-same-group of people - I get deja vu anytime I start to type. Apologies for the redundant chatter...]

Ice Cream Cone Guy - >>>>> I did my downloading at work...….

Good for you, screw the man. The number of man hours I spent at AT&T working on Grateful Dead things! I type all the songs lyrics in files at work, then printed books off that we sold at Dead shows! Maybe why me and ATT parted company :-) Fuckem if they can't take a joke!

Keith the Fan Man - I have the Pink Floyd boxes (and I think all the other stuff), let me know if I can help with those different Echos.

On Re-do's - good "quote" by Jerry about repainting a picture. Sometimes you have to wonder if old stuff is being revisited because there are NO new ideas from people. Could just be corporate pushing also.

Mr Ones and his liner notes - back in my youth I would buy any album that came with lyrics!

Jeff Smith - George Harrison and My Sweet Lord. I didn't know George did that Andy Williams song! (kinda of inside joke - when first met wife she was a big Simon & Garfunkel fan and I was a huge Andy Williams fan. Used to tease that S&G were doing Andy songs. Since Andy did every pop hit of the day, in the day! Like his album with My Sweet Lord, I had NO idea at the time that was a "beatles" song, which is how I would have viewed it)

Dave the Rock - CD go up? That's what I tell "she who must be obeyed" also. (I've heard DaP 1 is going for 2,000 bucks all by itself honey! Yes, honey that vinyl has gone up 10 fold. Yes I know I don't have a turntable, but they were limited. If I don't get now, they'll be gone forever!!!)

Giant Vs PNW sales. Maybe Giant outsold pnw because of the NY fan base. PNW might have been a popular visiting site, but I would have guessed more fans came to the PNW, vs being in the PNW. But NY is NY and it solidly goes back to the beginning.

Deja Vu all over again, don't worry about repeat posting here Dave, old Deadheads (like me) can't remember that kinda of stuff.

…… the trouble is all inside your head she said to me.
You can't remember shit, except to take a pee.
I'd like to help you in with gaps in your memory
I got a mnemonic device to help you remember

…….. Andy Williams, right?

The Grateful Dead breaking out Alligator in 1985 with Brent and Jerry singing lead. I think Brent's plinky keyboard tone would have worked, too. Oh well. What might have been...

DaP 1 $2K? How about one with radical shreddings?

Hey y’all. It’s been a long time since I’ve posted on the Good ‘Ol Forum, and hope everyone is doing well!
I do usually check in, especially when there is a new release, mostly for the stories.
This week has been weird, though, and with everything going on in the real world I shouldn’t complain, and it does put real life into perspective. But after reading on about disc rot (I’d never seen any Up to this point ), I researched it and discovered, low and behold, all but two of my Live Phish were disintegrated! Absolutely no metal between the plastic whatsoever! Evidently this had been talked about for some time, but I don’t frequent Phish forums, so I didn’t have a clue. So Ok, I figure I’ve been slacking ripping my Dead discs into iTunes (maybe I’d better), and decided to pick up where I left off, which I had already made a sizable accomplishment. Bam! And this is strange- all but four or five title could not be located on my drive. Ditto with an backup- everything else but the Dead.
So I started at zero. Ripped a few Dave’s Picks and figured I’d better do Boxilla! So I’m about halfway through and I realized I don’t have disc 3 from the 1982 Manor Downs show. (Long story but I probably missed this Because I was dealing with some personal stuff when I got the box- sick pet, sick in-law etc.)
I was wondering if anyone would be willing to copy the third disc? I’m reaching out to Dr.Rhino, but I don’t expect anything at this point.
On the other hand, the only weird anomaly I’ve seen on the other Dead discs, so far, is a weird little thumb-print discoloration on Disc three of Dave’s Picks 1. Plays fine and ripped fine. I don’t recall, at the moment, having issues with any other Dave’s Picks. (Good news is that I didn’t see myself sitting on my car in that set of captchas).
Stay safe and healthy.
-Garrison

Off topic for the dead, but if your looking for an interesting Netflix documentary, try I called him Morgan. Interesting story of Lee Morgan with video of Lee with Art Blakey Wayne Shorter and Bobby Timmons. Loved the Searching for a New Land

....gonna play some Dylan today. Starting with Nashville Skyline......now.

Charlie 3 and Dennis - thanks for pointing me in the right direction on the Pink Floyd Pompeii stuff. Yeah Dennis, I'd love some help with that!

Stoltzie - 5/13/73 you say? I'll bite. To archive I go. When I was checking out the setlist and venue, I read this interesting comment that Jerry played an Erlewine Strat. Found some pictures of him playing the guitar, but I don't know the dates. Would need to cross-reference it with the occasions that he wore that jacket. I wonder what became of that? That's exactly the kind of thing I'm going to blow my money on when I hit the lottery.

Here's the link that should work. The first one I posted didn't work right.

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1nQFArP4Q-E-P7dyDbz9xSbec2IETZ9C…

And how about Bobby with the SG - I've read that he picked one up occasionally, but I've never seen any pictures until now.

And that belt Donna's wearing with the chain leash on the front - well, it's a leash in my mind anyway....

Daverock - saw your note about Taxman. Funny you mention it, because I just saw an article recently that mentioned it and it was really kind of enlightening. The story was Harrison couldn't nail the solo on his own song. I think it said McCartney did it in one take or something like that. Of course I immediately turned it on to listen in on the new info. This was literally within the last couple of weeks. I was aware that they all solo'd at the end of the Abbey Road medley, I knew Paul played acoustic on Yesterday, but the more I read lately, the more evident it becomes that they shared guitar duties quite a bit. I'd love to see song by song breakdown of who played what. Not sure anything like that it's in print. Apparently a lot of this info came out of a recent book from their sound engineer Geoff Emerick. He was 18 years old when they brought him on for Revolver. Can you imagine? I'd steal a kid's pet dog for an opportunity like that.

Just saw your post on I Can See For Miles. I heard / saw the overdubbed bass version 1 time on TV and have not been able to find it anywhere since. Is it on anyting? It's more obscure than the vinyl cut of Magic Bus on Meaty Beaty Big and Bouncy, which has a real ending and not a fade-out (as well as some other nuances). That's the one I grew up with on vinyl, and then they replaced it on the CD version with the fade-out version. Bothersome.

I hear ya man.. sent you a PM.

Wilfred.. I love it! Why didn't they think of that? ..but who would sing it, they need a ghost of pig or a special guest.

Still.. What a great idea.

It's one I think Jerry's 'froggy' voice and Brent's 85 keyboard tone could have done. Boy, that would have been fun. More fun than a Cosmic Charlie breakout? I don't know. But, in '85 there was potential. They were varying the set lists the most they'd done since '76! :-)

Bringing back Alligator in 1985 would have been very cool. They brought back Big Boy Pete once. I read an interview were Blair Jackson asked Garcia if they could bring back Alligator and he basically said I don't believe we could ever do that one again.

...Speaking about 1985 Grateful Dead, How about
Dick's Picks Volume 21! A grateful live album in the Dick's Picks series, it contains the complete concert that was recorded on November 1, 1985, at Richmond Coliseum in Richmond, Virginia. It also includes several bonus tracks recorded on September 2, 1980, at the Community War Memorial in Rochester, New York. Also, for collectors, the Pluss with Dick's Picks Volume 21 is that it features rare live recordings of "Spoonful", "Gimme Some Lovin'", "She Belongs to Me", "Gloria" and "Keep Your Day Job".
Each volume of Dick's Picks has its own "caveat emptor" label, advising the listener of the sound quality of the recording. The one for Volume 21 reads:

"DP 21 was mastered from the original digital tapes, our earliest foray into the digital domain to date. The master tapes are Beta PCM cassettes, with stereo digital audio recorded on the video track. We've aimed to make this release sound as good as possible, and we feel we've succeeded. Hopefully you will agree. Enjoy."
Complete Setlist :
*Disc one
**First set:
"Dancing in the Streets" (Marvin Gaye, Ivy Jo Hunter, William "Mickey" Stevenson) – 6:52 >
"Cold Rain And Snow" (trad., arr. Grateful Dead) – 7:32
"Little Red Rooster" (Willie Dixon) – 8:22
"Stagger Lee" (Robert Hunter, Jerry Garcia) – 5:55
"Me and My Uncle" (John Phillips) – 3:04 >
"Big River" (Cash) – 6:19
"Brown-Eyed Woman" (R. Hunter, Garcia) – 4:55
"Jack Straw" (R. Hunter, Bob Weir) – 5:24 >
"Don't Ease Me In" (trad., arr. Grateful Dead) – 3:14
*Disc two-
**Second set:
"Samson and Delilah" (trad., arr. Weir) – 7:33
"High Time" (R. Hunter, Garcia) – 8:34 >
"He's Gone" (R. Hunter, Garcia) – 11:07 >
"Spoonful" (Dixon) – 4:54 >
"Comes a Time" (R. Hunter, Garcia) – 8:26 >
"Lost Sailor" (John Barlow, Weir) – 7:27 >
"Drums" (Mickey Hart, Bill Kreutzmann) – 9:06 >
*Disc three-
**Second set continues:
"Space" (Garcia, Phil Lesh, Weir) – 11:26 >
"Saint of Circumstance" (Barlow, Weir) – 6:52 >
"Gimme Some Lovin'" (Spencer Davis, Muff Winwood, Steve Winwood) – 4:27 >
"She Belongs to Me" (Bob Dylan) – 7:54 >
"Gloria" (Van Morrison) – 6:51
***Encore:"Keep Your Day Job" (R. Hunter, Garcia) – 4:14
Bonus tracks recorded September 2, 1980:

"Space" (Garcia, Lesh, weir) – 8:33 >
"Iko Iko" (James "Sugar Boy" Crawford) – 7:47 >
"Morning Dew" (Dobson, Rose) – 11:04 >
"Sugar Magnolia" (R. Hunter, Weir) – 9:14
***Dan Healy – recording
... I remember when I first heard the release , I became very interested in the Dead’s playing in 1985, in my opinion, it’s almost to me , a feeling of a rebirth in the dead’s quality playing; Primo! In its own sort of way in the dicks picks series. This was actually one of my least playing releases but it started to grow on me. It brought back a lot of fond & beautiful memories of my touring years with the dead & the whole community that followed the dead from show to show as well I was grateful enough to meet many beautiful people in the 80’s & 90’s touring community!
Man, now looking back on 1985, I think it’s about time we get another 1985 performance that is Norman treated! Any other fans of 1985 Dead?
Hope everyone is well and enjoying your weekend holiday safely & gratefully everyone, peace be with you all! 🙏❤️💀🌹
. To find HQ releases of this era of the Grateful Dead 1983-1986 have been very hard to find. There aren't a lot of HQ copies of show in the GD Vault from this ERA. I love this era with Brent on Key's. There is so much released from the 70's but very few from this era. The quality is excellent and the energy between the crowd and the band is epic!.Would love to see more release from this era hoping Dave can find some HQ Recordings of this era!!

Garrison, it looks like Jim has your back, but I can always help with many of the Live Phish. PM me . . .

A few years back I took out my original-run Live Phish and sure enough, the discs had melted away. But it was not disc rot; the plastic photo-album-style CD pocket holders had some chemical in them that ate the disc material. I tried Phish and the manufacturer to no avail. No one would help, even though it's well-documented online that the first year of Live Phish had the problem. Phish quit putting the series in those sleeves after a year or so. All I asked for was some FLAC files (no dice), since it's likely that they have no more physical product of those CDs, but I ended up finding Phish fans who allowed me to rip copies of their Live Phish discs that they had purchased after the switch. One phan phound out that his discs had melted away when he went to pull his out to loan me. Doh.

I've not seen evidence of disc rot after 30+ years and 3000+ CDs, but who knows?

Ryan, I'll definitely check out that Lee Morgan documentary, thanks! I'll watch it with my trumpeter son.

Just received a remastered Hunky Dory in the mail Saturday to replace my 1999 mastering, which replaced the 1989 mastering, so I will admit that I chase remasterings all the time. The CDs from 1987-1994 or so were rushed out, and the music companies usually did not take time to find the masters for the CD pressings. And few realized at the time that the CD was not just a smaller version of an LP or a round cassette; the companies prepared the first CDs as if the discs had no differences than previous media in terms of pros/cons.

Then after a decade of discs, some companies re-did the releases with the best tapes and an idea of what the CD was capable of. But during that time (let's say 1996-2004) there were also folks trying to overly-compress the music (the "Loudness Wars"), so some of those first remasterings had better sound before the compression, but lousy sound on the CDs. (and some of the packaging of the remasters was not great)

So this past decade or so has seen people going back to the original tapes and to the good, 2000-era remastered tapes, but using the latest technology, leaving some breathing room on the discs, and also spiffing up the packaging, which to me creates a raft of second- and third-time around releases which really hit the spot. To my ears, the 1999 Bowie remasters are easily bettered by the more recent remasterings, but your mileage may vary. And as I mentioned a few days back, the newest stereo Beatles remasters really are ear-opening. (the Mono box, it goes without saying, is pure delight)

Jerry should have had more faith! They could have done it and it would have been really great! I can hear the 1985 GD playing it in my mind's ear. They had the right sound to do it I think. Just imagine Alligator>Cryptical>Other One at the Greek in June! What could have been! :-)

Has anyone here received this in Canada yet? I got an email a month ago saying it had shipped. It usually takes 2 weeks but because of COVID-19 I have been extra patient. I have heard some things about USPS and Canada Post being super slow.

I just want to make sure I didn't have an issue receiving this before I contact asking where my package is. Thanks for any information!

I imagine, Garcia probably felt without Pig Pen doing Alligator or Easy Wind for that matter, that those tunes just wouldn't make it. Those were Pig Pen tunes all the way, and he was the guy that really made them work.

I still haven't received mine. According to UPS tracking, it was handed off to Canada Post on May 10th. I contacted UPS to see if they had new tracking info for Canada Post, but they didn't - told me to contact the shipper. So it looks like things are just moving slowly (I'm guessing in part because of border restrictions).

I keep lurking here to see what people are saying about non-USA deliveries. No need to panic, yet.

I know that they're not pigpen songs, but bobby brought back a bunch of blues numbers pigpen used to sing. Why not Alligator? Of course, we'll never know but I can hear 85 Grateful Dead absolutely nailing Alligator. And, it would have been fun.

Thanks. I figured it was delayed given everything going on. Glad to know I am not alone.

I think I am especially impatient for this one because these shows rock so much, holy!

everyone. I hope you're spending some time with loved ones and remembering all those who gave their lives for our country over the years.

I've been on an '88 kick recently, listening to March 31st 1988 - Brendan Bryne Arena - Road Trips Vol 4 #2, followed up be the 30 trips offering, 7-3-88 Oxford Plains. Both shows have some great moments. If I remember correctly MD Jim was at 3-31.

I really liked the Queen Jane and Birdsong to end set 1 of Oxford, and then Touch of Grey into Hey Pockey Way to open the 2nd. Great sting of songs. Bobby was a little over the top on the Hey Jude; Brent was cracking up.

I think the Road Trips show from 3-31 was stronger top to bottom. I loved the 1st set setlist especially.

Now on to Lille '72. I'll be listening for the upright piano sounds.

Quick question: I took a pic of the Uptown Theater this am on my bike ride and would love to post it. Does anybody know how to do that?

Cheers.

Post-it on your avatar.

...Well 46 years ago five of us drove up to the Santa Barbara Campus Football Stadium for a mighty fine show...it basically served as the bachelor party for our bud John...a wonderful time was had by all and it's crazy to think that John & Gloria will be celebrating their 46th anniversary next week...the sad part is that John and I are the only ones still trodding along on this ball of confusion...so to Mousey, Dogweed Al and Eller Dave thanks for the bittersweet memories and thanks for all the laughs....

Your both right! It would have been awesome and they could of pulled it off if they really wanted to. But generally they weren’t into pig tunes after he passed. I think perhaps Weir felt Lovelight, Smokestack etc weren’t really Pig tunes but blues covers? Of course Bob being Bob no one was going to tell him no, in fact doing so probably would of made him dig in harder lol.
But I think the two main reasons I often heard/read the band say about not playing songs was;
1) they had to want to play a song. Some quote like we have so many choices, we usually won’t play something if even one person doesn’t want to.
2) Rehearsal: another often quoted statement was it became increasingly difficult to get everyone together to rehearse, especially Jerry as his problem increased. They’ve all said certain songs cannot be performed without appropriate rehearsal.

EDIT: now that you’ve got me thinking about it...imagine an 85 DS, not just a one off, but somewhat back in rotation like 89.....or even better...a 85 Death Don’t! Holy shit can’t you just hear them killing that song!! Unfortunately, see #2 above ☹️

Me too, still waiting patiently for 34 to arrive

Lovemygirl can you please post the link to the set list, not the entire set list itself. It makes a mess of your posts and the page in general. Then I can't figure out where your commentary begins and the set list filler ends.

When you say your "touring years" with the band, what did you do, drive from city to city with your buddies?

My girlfriend (now wife) and I were at that show. What a beautiful day. I'll never forget seeing the Wall Of Sound covered in blue tarp as we made our way into the venue and thinking "Is that the sound system...whoa?!" Also noted the crowd size being significantly larger than the year before at the same venue. We no longer had these guys to ourselves. Also was the first night I checked into a motel. With a young lady. And not married. Exciting. I was 19.

Stoltzie - I found a good Charlie Miller of partial 2nd set: He's Gone => Truckin' => The Other One => Eyes of the World. Wowza. The complete show versions didn't sound so hot, but the audio here about as good as '73 soundboards get.

....on the pick of the day, with discussion page. Can't say he's entirely wrong.

Still have to get my listen in to this one. Probably my favorite spring 77 show, particularly if the 2/26 Swing Auditorium show is considered Winter.

Tuscaloosa 5/17 and Lakeland 5/21 would go with 5/25 to constitute my top 3 Spring 77 shows.

I'm on call for work today, so I'm quarantined within my quarantine.

I predicted that to be a Daves a while back

We got PNW box instead

That's fiiiiiine with me :)))

Someday, though, Dave...