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    "To my ears, the best Dead shows are those that not only fit the criteria that make them amongst the best of a year, but that are also completely unique for their era—shows that fit perfectly into their year of performance, but also fall somewhat outside of the norm for that year. Harpur College, Veneta, Cornell, Cape Cod, and Augusta are all shows that are objectively excellent, and if they are not the best from their respective years of performance, they are certainly unique. Miami 6/23/74 falls into that category: not only one of the very best shows from this outstanding year, but also one of the most interesting and unique. It’s certainly worthy of many, many deep listens." - David Lemieux

    ¡Ándale, ándale! ¡Arriba, arriba! We're back with a hot one from Miami, F-L-A. DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 34 features the complete show from the Jai Alai Fronton, 6/23/74, one with unparalleled sound quality due in equal parts to the Wall Of Sound and the beautiful sonic clarity of Kidd Candelario's tapes. The first set is chock full of dynamite takes on classics like "Ramble On Rose," "Mississippi Half-Step," and "Cumberland Blues." The second set delivers on the JAMS - one leading into a gorgeous "Ship Of Fools," one rare instrumental version of "Dark Star," and a "Spanish Jam," this is Miami after all! The show also offers up a "first" and an "only" - the former, a Seastones set featuring Phil and Ned Lagin and the latter, the sole Grateful Dead performance of Chuck Berry's "Let It Rock."

    Limited to 22,000 numbered copies, DAVE’S PICKS VOL.34: JAI ALAI FRONTON, MIAMI, FL 6/23/74 has been mastered from the 7.5 IPS reel-to-reel tapes to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman. ¡Agarrarlo mientras esta calientito! (Get it while it's hot!)

    *Limited to 2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

    Subscribed to Dave's Picks? With this release, you'll also get a bonus disc with selections from Miami 6/22/74. Excellente!

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    Europe '72 Dark Stars...

    5/11/1972 Rotterdam is one of my all time favourites.
    5/7/1972 Bickershaw was the one I was fortunate enough to to witness.

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    ...about Europe '72 Dark Stars. It's time to share this one again. I amassed detailed listens to all of them a few years back as I awaited Boxzilla:

    4/8/1972 - Wembly Empire Pool, London - 32 mins; intense/fast paced first leg up til about 10 mins then returns to DS theme for 1st verse; spacey post-verse til ~17 min, then pace picks up for a few minutes, followed by a brief meltdown; additional spaciness around 24 mins followed by another full meltdown; interesting groove established around 28 min that has hints of Sugar Mag (into which it segues, flawlessly). No second verse.

    4/14/1972 - Tivoli Concert Hall, Copenhagen, DK - 29 mins; loose first 10 mins not overly spacey; gets spacey around 11 mins; interesting groove establishes around 16 min to head into first verse w/interesting beat; heads off into intense nearly 7-minute jam inclusive of a very tight and fast Feelin Groovy jam; final 3 minutes are a meltdown. No second verse.

    4/17/1972 - Tivoli Concert Hall, Copenhagen, DK - 31 mins; spacey opening to about 7:30 when first DS theme emerges leading to 1st verse at 9:45. Spacey post-2nd verse tries to take off but melts further around 19 min; returns to a partial groove around 24:30 and closes out with spaceyness in the last 2 mins. No second verse.

    4/24/1972 - Rheinhalle, Dusseldorf, Germany - Split by Me & My Uncle; 26 mins 1st half, 14:30 second half. Spacey opening until about 8:45 where it coalesces and falls into first DS theme around 10:15 followed shortly by 1st verse with slow, sparse notes. Spacey feedback following verse until 15:45 and then picks up into an intense, fast paced jam for just under 2 minutes before it becomes dissonant again leading to major meltdown which eventually heads into Me & My Uncle with ease. Second half: spacey reintroduction persists until about 7 mins, where Keith leads-in with some piano phrasing and then the band follows into a tight fast paced jam where Jerry plays some lines back and forth as if in conversation with himself and then maintains an intense level effortlessly segueing into Wharf Rat. No second verse.

    4/29/1972 - Musikhalle, Hamburg, Denmark - 30 mins; spacey opening for ~5 mins, then enters a groove and Phil hints at the Feeling Groovy jam until it finally is joined by Jerry a minute later until about 8:00, then the floor drops out into space. DS theme appears at 14 min which leads to first verse. Spacey post-verse noodling leads to major meltdown, settling in at 22 mins with a fat, fast-paced Keith-led groove. Final 4 mins are spacey & lead to major melt #2, dropping into Sugar Mag as DS finally melts away. No second verse.

    5/4/1972 - Olympia Theatre, Paris - Split by drums; 19 mins 1st half; 17:34 2nd half. Spacey opening til about 6 mins when fast paced jam kicks in until 11:20, slowing down then resurrecting the DS theme into the first verse. 4 mins of space leads into drums. Second half post-drums is very spacey until 7 mins, then kicks into overdrive with a very high energy jam leading to a phenominal Feelin Groovy Jam for several minutes before settling into the second verse. DS dissipates into the Sugar Mag from E'72.

    5/7/1972 - Bickershaw Festival, Wigan, UK - 19:49 mins; decent, coherent jamming for the first several minutes that congeals nicely around 8 minutes. Bottom falls out around 10 mins and leads to some light noodling, cymbal fills and space. DS theme emerges at 14:23 and heads into 1st verse. Space fills the air through the remainder of the song until it totally breaks down into drums. No second verse.

    5/11/1972 - Rotterdam Civic Hall, Netherlands - Split by drums; 13:45 mins 1st half; 30:34 mins 2nd half; Opens with a light, airy jam that persists to congeal into a decent groove as it treads in and out of spacey phrasing. This settles into a mysterious sounding jam that grows with intensity without a return to the DS theme before dissolving into drums. Emerging from drums, Phil and Billy duel for 2 minutes before Jerry joins back in with some complimentary thoughts; the DS theme appears around 5 min followed by 1st verse. A few moments of spacey feedback give way to spacey noodling that devolves into a full blow chaotic meltdown, only to emerge around 19:30 into a very nice, fast paced groove that hints at Caution and PITB jams. This eventually dissolves and a light, sparse outro ends the song as it heads off into Sugar Mag. No second verse.

    5/18/1972 - Kongressaal, Muenchen, Denmark - 28:20 mins; almost 2 mins of noodling before opening notes from Phil; a loose jam ensues around the DS theme for the next several minutes and then decays. At ~9 min an interesting jam emerges, which eventually settles back into the DS theme and 1st verse around 14:30. The remainder of this DS is borderline chaos as it treads in and out of varying degrees of a meltdown until it settles into Morning Dew. No second verse.

    5/23/1972 - The Strand Lyceum, London - 30 mins; Spacey opening minutes lead to tight fast paced jam commencing around 3:30 for two minutes and then it settles into another spacey jam digressing to almost…nothing. Billy and Phil then have a small duel until ~13:30 when the rest of the band fills back into a delicate groove which grows to into a jam reminiscent of the post-Truckin' foray from E'72 until about 17 mins, when they drop into the DS theme and 1st verse. Ensuing is additional delicate spaciness that transgresses into a frenzied meltdown madness, and eventually settles into Morning Dew. No second verse.

    5/25/1972 - The Strand Lyceum, London - 34 mins, out of Wharf Rat. Strong opening with a groove almost from the beginning, no noodling around here in the first 7 minutes. Then turns very spacey until 15 mins when DS theme appears, and heads off into 1st verse. Post-verse finds a Billy, Phil, and Keith duel for several minutes. At 21 mins, Phil institutes a mellow Feeling Groovy jam, soon joined by the rest of the band until ~25 mins. Final minutes are dominated by space and then a monumental meltdown before heading off into Sugar Mag. No second verse.

    Final Verdict(s): It is a very close tie between 4/14 and the second half from 5/4. I put these on the pedestal due to the crazy, intense jams surrounding the Feelin Groovy sequences. They are just interstellar. Part of me also wanted to simply catalog which Dark Stars included a Feelin Groovy jam from the '72 trunk, so I feel my work is done and I can rest easy. I'd be delighted to hear if any others had similar, or more excitingly, differing thoughts.

    Sixtus

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    Nice overview about corona and I've found number about corona april 2020

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    To the coworker for whom without the rest of us would have no one to blame.

    5-Branch - nice summing up on last paragraph about Dark Star, Denmark.

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    get on my FUCKING NERVES.

    just had to say that.

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    Rubber Bowl

    or Bowl of Rubbers

    just so easy

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    Dark Star

    the apex of GD

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    4/14 Dark Star

    In my journey through the entire E72 tour, that has been the one song that has moved up considerably on my "favorites" list. I somehow forgot how good it was. I've taken to listening again on the off nights.

    One thing I find cool about this tour is the actual theaters in which the band played. I've spent a good deal of time this go-around reading more about the venues and looking at photos. Truly amazing places. That must have made the experience all the more special for those in attendance. They sure are nicer than the Rubber Bowl in Akron.

    The other thing I find interesting is the location of the shows. Aside from Denmark and Munich, all the shows are heavily concentrated in the Northeast corner of Europe. It seems as though they could have spread out a bit more.
    Hell, if you are going to play Munich and have five days off before your next show, you might as well play Salzburg.

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    For me, the chaotic interludes in Dark Stars just serve to make the return of the melody that much sweeter a release after the tension of the chaos. Sort of like that transition from slipping around in your own skin peaking to that sweet feeling afterglow for the last few hours, when it feels like your skin fits again and you recognize that person in the mirror.

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"To my ears, the best Dead shows are those that not only fit the criteria that make them amongst the best of a year, but that are also completely unique for their era—shows that fit perfectly into their year of performance, but also fall somewhat outside of the norm for that year. Harpur College, Veneta, Cornell, Cape Cod, and Augusta are all shows that are objectively excellent, and if they are not the best from their respective years of performance, they are certainly unique. Miami 6/23/74 falls into that category: not only one of the very best shows from this outstanding year, but also one of the most interesting and unique. It’s certainly worthy of many, many deep listens." - David Lemieux

¡Ándale, ándale! ¡Arriba, arriba! We're back with a hot one from Miami, F-L-A. DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 34 features the complete show from the Jai Alai Fronton, 6/23/74, one with unparalleled sound quality due in equal parts to the Wall Of Sound and the beautiful sonic clarity of Kidd Candelario's tapes. The first set is chock full of dynamite takes on classics like "Ramble On Rose," "Mississippi Half-Step," and "Cumberland Blues." The second set delivers on the JAMS - one leading into a gorgeous "Ship Of Fools," one rare instrumental version of "Dark Star," and a "Spanish Jam," this is Miami after all! The show also offers up a "first" and an "only" - the former, a Seastones set featuring Phil and Ned Lagin and the latter, the sole Grateful Dead performance of Chuck Berry's "Let It Rock."

Limited to 22,000 numbered copies, DAVE’S PICKS VOL.34: JAI ALAI FRONTON, MIAMI, FL 6/23/74 has been mastered from the 7.5 IPS reel-to-reel tapes to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman. ¡Agarrarlo mientras esta calientito! (Get it while it's hot!)

*Limited to 2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

Subscribed to Dave's Picks? With this release, you'll also get a bonus disc with selections from Miami 6/22/74. Excellente!

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Thanks man!

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Very cool avatar picture. Looks like a nice day too.

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Dave's: #4, #5, #6:
#4 = 9/24/76 William & Mary
#5 = 11/17/73 Pauley Pavillion
#6 = 2/2/70 + 12/20/69 +12/21 bonus disc.

Only drawback is the two complete shows from #6 have a lot of repeats (as does the bonus disc). But the fact that TC is there for the'69 but not the '70 makes that fact a plus. Showing how some tunes changed (or not).

That UCLA show might be my favorite show they have released on Dave's/Dicks.

I will try for Dick's as well. Very tempted to go 2,3,4 or 10,11,12, but the completist in me cannot quite do it. I will go #28, #29, #30.

#28: 2/26 & 28/73
#29: 5/19/77 + 5/21/77. 2 shows - 1 Encore.
#39: 3/28/72 complete + 3/25 stuff. Academy of Music.

14 Discs!

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Gotta say 12/6/73 with the 46 minute Dark Star. awesome Greatest Story, China Cat>I know you Rider and Eyes of the World..... tough to beat... bob t

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A couple years ago someone over on that thread said their favorite China>Rider ever is from 6/22/74, the DaP 20 bonus disc. I've got to get in a few more close listens, but being from '74 you know it's a good one.

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....need to pick my favorite three Dicks and Daves in a row. Oh, the pressure.
I just want you all to know, I look forward to all of your posts. Props me up. 🍻
Three is a magic number people.

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I come hear/here for the jazzy threads of conversation, much like how I return to the well of the Dead for the same, through music.

However today I pay tribute to the Seattle bands, given the recent outstanding release of Mark Lanegan's book, "Sing Backwards And Weep."

Honor roll:

Jimi Hendrix
Heart
Mark Lanegan
Layne Staley
Kurt Cobain
Chris Cornell
Mike McCready
Barrett Martin

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DaP34 arrived alive and well in the west of England which fits just exactly perfectly with completion of Europe 72. Weird things to note, UPS and USPS both seem to still think they’re about to hand over to each other at Fontana outside LA (since April 30) and that dreaded customs charge (£13.52 this time) has been levied again.
Hope everyone else also starting to get theirs delivered too. Stay well.

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First.. Awesome news Andrew. Can't tell you how good it feels to get some really good news first thing in the day and a compelling reason to replace your daily news with a daily briefing from dead.net.

As for the best three consecutive Dave's Picks. It really didn't take me much time to put together this list at all:

Dave's Picks Volume 13: Winterland, San Francisco, CA, 2/24/74
Dave's Picks, Volume 5: Pauley Pavilion, UCLA, Los Angeles, CA, 11/17/73
Dave's Picks Volume 8: Fox Theatre, Atlanta, GA 11/30/80
Dave's Picks Volume 9: Harry Adams Field House, U. of Montana, Missoula, 5/14/74
Dave's Picks Volume 11: Convention Hall, Wichita, KS 11/17/72
Dave's Picks Volume 13: Winterland, San Francisco, CA, 2/24/74
Dave's Picks Volume 24: Berkeley Community Theatre, August 25, 1972
Dave's Picks Volume 30: Fillmore East, New York, January 2, 1970
Dave's Picks Volume 34: Jai Alai Fronton, Miami, FL 6/23/74
Dave's Picks Volume 13: Winterland, San Francisco, CA, 2/24/74

I feel compelled to add one honorable mention, which combined with the list above makes this the four best consecutive Dave's Picks:

Dave's Picks Volume 13: Winterland, San Francisco, CA, 2/24/74
Dave's Picks, Volume 1: The Mosque, Richmond, VA, 5/25/77
Dave's Picks, Volume 2: Dillon Stadium, Hartford, CT, 7/31/74
Dave's Picks, Volume 3: Auditorium Theatre, Chicago, IL, 10/22/71
Dave's Picks Volume 13: Winterland, San Francisco, CA, 2/24/74
Dave's Picks Volume 21: Boston Garden, Boston, MA, April 2, 1973
Dave's Picks Volume 23: McArthur Court, Eugene, January 22, 1978
Dave's Picks Volume 25: Binghamton, November 6, 1977
Dave's Picks Volume 26: Albuquerque, November 17, 1971
Dave's Picks Volume 32: The Spectrum, Philadelphia, PA 3/24/73

Whew.. glad I got that out of the way. Not sure why you guys struggled so much and why no one had the same list as me, which I am quite confident is the correct answer.

Favorite Bonus Disc.. easy, …….

Edit / Caveat Emptor - One qualifying comment. You might want to install the "Bad Vibe Be Gone Filter" to your Dead.net app or browser before completely replacing the news with daily briefings from dead.net. A quick install makes things almost exactly practically perfect.

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Safe arrival in East Kent; no shipping notice, no demand for customs charges, just plopped happily through the letter box 10 minutes and made my day :)

KENT? My first bike as a kid (under 7) was a Kent. It was made in England. Is that where the bikes were from? Do they still make bikes?

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Sir James,

Either your math is off or my reading is really bad.

My favorite release of the series so far is 5. Way ahead of all the others. The next in order of release are 9, 11, 13, 23, 26, 29, 30 and 34.

I don’t really like 28 or 31, so that eliminates 29 and 30, unfortunately. That leaves me with 9, 11 and 13. Of the remaining options, I prefer 12 over 10, resulting in 11, 12, 13.

12 is also one of my favorite cover designs along with 5, 23 and 26. By the way, if Dave did his research, 12 should have been release 13. I do understand that marketing probably played a huge part.

A strong second would be 5, 6, 7. I like release 5 that much and 6 is a great release. 7 comes along by default as I did not like 4 much at all.

Sorry for not including the dates. It’s just too much work. You can use the link, as I did, for reference.

http://www.deaddisc.com/GDFD_Daves_Picks.htm

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I have a Kent water bottle for my bike. I do believe they are the last remaining Legacy bike manufacturer (Schwinn, etc.) that still makes bikes in the US. I could be wrong, someone please correct me if I am.

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I have a kent brush co. mustache comb, so there. Also Daps- 21, 23, and 30. Bonus- NOD. P.S.- JIM, you are correct sir.

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....i have a co-worker named Kent. He's kind of a douche. We won't talk about him.

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Three way tie. These are shows I listen to in full repeatedly. I stuck with a "must already REALLY get a lot of mileage out of the releases" criteria.

DaP 1 May 25, 1977
DaP 2 July 31, 1974 + Bonus Disc July 29, 1974
DaP 3 Oct 22, 1971 + Bonus Disc 3 Oct 21 1971

DaP 11 Nov 17, 1972
DaP 12 Nov 4, 1977
DaP 13 Feb 24, 1974

DaP 16 March 28, 1973
DaP 17, July 19, 1974
DaP 18 July 17, 1976 + most of July 16, 1976

As much as I like the following list of DaP releases that I omitted, they fall into a sequence of three shows where I only like bits and pieces of at least one of the three.

DaP 5
DaP 6
DaP 9
DaP14
DaP 21
DaP 24
DaP 26
DaP 29
DaP 32
DaP 34

Best Dave's Picks Bonus Disk - yikes - so many good ones. I think the Academy of Music one makes up a nice little 1972 set. Get your magic twanger out Jerry.....

I put on To Terrapin: Hartford '77 today. Last show of magical mythical May 1977. Favorite Samson and Delilah. Bobby and Donna have some vocal magic in here. Probably my favorite 1977 Terrapin Station as well. I prefer the shorter 1972 Sugarees with Pigpen's Hammond, but if I'm going post-hiatus, I'm going full bore with the 19 minute epic from this 5/28 show.

Never heard of Kent bikes. I had a Huffy. Are you sure you don't mean Huffy? Not to be confused with Hoffy, my buddy from college. Man he had a hot live-in girlfriend. I shouldn't have but I did. We once went to a Preakness with a group of about 20 people and never saw a horse. Must have been the mushrooms.

KeithFan2112...I'm catching up on the thread...the version of I Can See For Miles that you were hunting for is on The Who BBC Sessions; Best Buy Exclusive Bonus Disc...if you are still trying to get your hands on the song's official release...

From the bonus disc liner notes: "I Can See For Miles is essentially the same majestic take as captured by Kit Lambert on the mono single. The notable exception being John's re-recorded Rotosound strings holding the group together far more prominently in the mix - done to comply with a Musicians Union ban on miming."

I guess i was lucky enough back in 1999 to have purchased the set at Best Buy, which included a second disc with 8 additional songs. I have seen this bonus disc offered on e-bay for cheap...otherwise let me know if there is a way to get a digital rip to you...

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As many have stated, this is much tougher that I thought it would be. So many of my fav's are part of a trio that include some of those I don't love quite as much.

I think if I had to pick only one, it would be
Vol. 1. 5/25/77
Vol. 2. 7/31/74
and Vol 3. 10/22/71

Bonus disc 1 is my personal fav too, so that's a factor.

Runners up would be 11,12, and 13 - 24,25, and 26 - and 29, 30, and 31.

Peace

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My math was ok and your reading spot on. I just chose to break the rules and it felt so good.. sort of like midnight skinny dipping as a teenager at the local quarry with just the right company. Add in some rock gut malt liquor if she suggests it; it feels absolutely perfect until the cops come.

No offense meant to all the rule followers out there, carry on with your picks of three, I just cannot abide.

For me, it's a toss up between #5 and #13, but mhammond paved the way with 13 good vibes and I just went with it. For what it's worth.. I was having an 11 moment (Wichita 72) four or five months ago and was really getting into it.. when the second set started to take off and at the same time I was interrupted in the worst possible way. I know I will like this show, but at this point it's become a dark comedy.. every time I start to get into it lightning strikes, followed by an earthquake which was caused by this volcanic eruption down the block causing my house to get swallowed up by a sinkhole and eventually I give up before something really bad happens. Distractions kill.

Speaking of which.. we have sort of been bombarded with really good 1973, but Dave has been carefully dancing around the truly great ones still left. One of these days he's going to have to go there.

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Nor can I.
I would have to listen to all the DaP’s first in order to decide, and then still wouldn’t have an answer.

But, best GD CD I ever bought?
Anthem of the Sun in 1989. It was only the second or third CD I had ever bought (they were expensive back then) and it was awesome. I didn’t even have a CD player and had to use a friend’s stereo system to make a cassette copy of the CD so I could listen to it in my car.

(Of note, the first CD I ever bought was Saucerful of Secrets in 1987).

Those are the markings on the Anthem of the Sun CD I bought in 1989. Just started listening to it.

On inspection there was no disc rot and the CD looked like a well-manufactured CD. You can see the detail in the pressing of the metal. Also thicker and heavier. Plays and sounds just fine.
Maybe time for WB/Rhino to go back to basics of CD manufacturing.

Oh, that’s right. They’re trying to wean us old farts off of that outdated medium.

The single most important piece of music besides 4/19/82 that I have ever witnessed. And the April 82 thingie was a blotter related aberration for which I am eternally grateful.

Anthem was their best studio voyage, in my humble opinion. A psychedelic masterpiece.

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Kent bikes seem to be based in NJ, and there appears to be no connection to the Garden of England. So no bikes, but we too have some douches; and, oddly enough, I know a lady who sells moustache combs here in Whitstable – although I don't know whether they are Kent brand ("the world's finest brushes" since 1777, apparently, but they are made in Hertfordshire, not Kent). And I still haven't had time to listen to DaP34...

Congratulations to those in the UK that have #34. Mine doesn’t appear to be getting any closer. It left Wayne County, Detroit for a second time on 28th May. 29 days so far and still not crossed the ocean. Hopefully it will arrive before the new Dylan and Neil Young releases on 19th June. I live in hope.

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Colin,
Mine also left Detroit for the second time on the 28th but tracking now tells me it has left Heathrow, UK on route to destination. No demand for import charges (yet).

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... happy to read our fellow DeadHeads in the UK & Canada and other locations in the world! Are starting to receiving their long awaited next Dave’s Picks in the 2020 series!
I hope they make all of you “Smile Smile Smile!”, I know a “Whole Lotta Shakin”is going on around the USA! Enjoy my brothers and sisters! 🙏❤️💀🌹

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Thanks for the info. on Kent! (bikes, brushes, etc. :-P)

Now once set and setting is right, get cracking on DaP34. We'll need a full report! :-)

Glad to hear they are finally getting to where they need to be...

Make it a grateful day everybody!

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...I must admit, I’m already looking forward to the next release in the Dave’s Picks series of 2020 , which is #35...
6/20/80
West High Auditorium, Alaska
Hell is about to 🥶 freeze over in Deadland, imagine!? 😉🙏❤️💀🌹 have a grateful day everyone! Be safe,Be Kind & be grateful! We all have the “Good Ol’ Grateful Dead to help get us tru anything in this lifetime! Ciao’ Bello’s & Bella’s!

I haven't got Dave's Picks 34 yet! But I am still quite happy waiting. I listened to 5/21/74 yesterday - a stunning show, and beautifully recorded. I am currently very close to buying the vinyl version of 5/19/74, which keeps dropping a few quid every day here on Amazon UK. It would be a massive indulgence-the cds sound great ( I am not fussed about the vocal drop outs at all)...but you only live twice, as the saying goes..

Icrmcnkd…..your comments on cds being heavier and thicker in the distant past before possibly being phased out, reminds me of what happened with vinyl in the 1970s. My first records, bought in 1971-1973 are very sturdy, cut on vinyl that resembles granite. Move forward to the end of the decade and they get very wibbly indeed. I think the idea was to phase them out, first for cassettes and then for cds.

I am not sure what my first cd was. I didn't get a cd player until well into the 1990s. I think it was the head swirling Ozric Tentacles box set Vitamin Enhanced, which, incidentally, still sounds head swirling. Even without the self administered vitamins.
My first Dead cd recorded on tape from a friend was One From The Vaults-8/13/75.

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Do you remember those ghastly "Dynaflex" albums that RCA released. I can't remember whether that was in the late '70s or later. If you held them by the edge on two sides the middle sagged dramatically. RCA claimed it was improvement over "normal" vinyl. Yeah, right.

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I appreciate the info. I passed on the BBC sessions, and didn't even realize it had a bonus disc at one time. Just bought a copy on ebay for 5 bucks. Advertized as having some light marks on the CD but does not skip. I'm good with that for $5 (and free shipping).

P.S. - love the Rotosound Strings "commercial" before I Can See For Miles on Sellout.

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I had read before that the oil embargo was the cause of cheap vinyl. Crude oil is the source of a lot of industrial chemicals and during the embargo there was a shortage of whatever was needed to make good vinyl. Don’t remember where I had read that.

Daverock, I have 5-19-74 on vinyl and like it. Grab it when the price is right.

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Simon,
Dynaflex LP's were issued between 1969 and the late '70's. I have Bowie's Space Oddity and the self titled Lou Reed both released by RCA on Dynaflex in 1972. I remember back in the day showing off by folding them almost in half! Funnily enough both LP's seem to have less surface noise that standard releases that I have from the time.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dynaflex_(RCA)

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Yeah, for instance Hot Tuna's Burgers album. I remember the circle of friends sitting around "the campfire" in my freshman dorm when I held the LP between my hands and pressed it into a "U". Perfect distraction during the flip to side 2.

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Yorkshire UK
My update last date 21 / 5 stated just left international carrier facility to be delivered by post office!
Looks as though they are coming in by different means
Let’s hope they all get here!

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Wow got home and listening on internet archive, the Playing is great... Looking forward to WRS Prelude>Dark Star>Eyes of the World>Wharf Rat!!

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Cool link Ian. Jeff I also used to do the "U" hack in the day on these disks. I think it was a Booker t. album. I'm sure we are going to get a professional album critique any moment now . I cant get enough of the new bonus disk. Later.

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Was hoping to get it before the end of May, but alas, still it is not here. Let's hope I can listen to this cd before Canada day.

Have a nice weekend friends

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why does it take so long for people to get their discs???

I can talk instantly with some guy in Pakistan. But delivering a CD pack is outsourced to the Keystone Kops, apparently.

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miiiiighty tasty, for sure.

I still remember the first time I heard it...

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Icecrmcnkd - thanks for the nudge in the right direction-I ordered 5/19/74 this afternoon, and it should be delivered tomorrow. With Dave's Picks presumably on the way, 1974 is very much the year of the moment for me.

I am half way through the Road Trips 6/16/74 highlights...and what highlights they are. Superb versions of China Cat-Rider and Eyes of the World, with Playing to follow later tonight, and then a Truckin' jam on the bonus cd. And 6/18/74 after that. Maybe my favourite Road Trips release - definitely one of the best.

I have never heard of these Dynaflex L.Ps. from the 70s.

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Daverock - Hopefully you have the Road Trips '74 bonus disc with the Morning Dew from 6/18. The quiet, sparse interplay between Keith and Jerry that begins about 7 minutes in will have you picking your face up off the floor.

Bobby T - 3/21/73, aka Haze Over Utica. This one passed the sound test for me so it's in the soundboard folder on my phone. The Dark Star is really the only thing I've listen to off of it. You've motivated me to shift over to that show. I had put on some May 77, but I think it's about time I gave this Utica show it's due. Thanks for the idea. Will get back to May 77 later...

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