Dave’s Picks Volume 34: Jai Alai Fronton, Miami, FL 6/23/74

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"To my ears, the best Dead shows are those that not only fit the criteria that make them amongst the best of a year, but that are also completely unique for their era—shows that fit perfectly into their year of performance, but also fall somewhat outside of the norm for that year. Harpur College, Veneta, Cornell, Cape Cod, and Augusta are all shows that are objectively excellent, and if they are not the best from their respective years of performance, they are certainly unique. Miami 6/23/74 falls into that category: not only one of the very best shows from this outstanding year, but also one of the most interesting and unique. It’s certainly worthy of many, many deep listens." - David Lemieux

¡Ándale, ándale! ¡Arriba, arriba! We're back with a hot one from Miami, F-L-A. DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 34 features the complete show from the Jai Alai Fronton, 6/23/74, one with unparalleled sound quality due in equal parts to the Wall Of Sound and the beautiful sonic clarity of Kidd Candelario's tapes. The first set is chock full of dynamite takes on classics like "Ramble On Rose," "Mississippi Half-Step," and "Cumberland Blues." The second set delivers on the JAMS - one leading into a gorgeous "Ship Of Fools," one rare instrumental version of "Dark Star," and a "Spanish Jam," this is Miami after all! The show also offers up a "first" and an "only" - the former, a Seastones set featuring Phil and Ned Lagin and the latter, the sole Grateful Dead performance of Chuck Berry's "Let It Rock."

Limited to 22,000 numbered copies, DAVE’S PICKS VOL.34: JAI ALAI FRONTON, MIAMI, FL 6/23/74 has been mastered from the 7.5 IPS reel-to-reel tapes to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman. ¡Agarrarlo mientras esta calientito! (Get it while it's hot!)

*Limited to 2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

Subscribed to Dave's Picks? With this release, you'll also get a bonus disc with selections from Miami 6/22/74. Excellente!

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May 20, 2020 - 9:50pm

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JimInMD

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Are Dicks Picks Failing?

I think not..

I think this has the potential to become a big deal simply because they built their house of cards on top of a limited edition, collectible business model. It seems CDs might be disintegrating all by themselves just sitting on a shelf while being properly stored. This issue seems to correlate to a specific year, which means a specific manufacturer and a specific stock of blanks.

If all this turns out to be true, which is not known, it will have an impact on the number of people buying CD's going forward vs. not which impacts pretty much everything. I think we have reached a good equilibrium now, a stable market, mostly up-front payments which allows for a reliable production run or most importantly the ability to do a good job remastering and producing. (Think proper Jeffrey Norman time.)

This could be nothing or it could be a big deal, it's too early to be sure. If true, I still think it's correctible and worth the investment to fix. No need to replace packaging, just the discs.

This might cast a shadow over their ability to meet the 22k number. Just my two cents.
May 20, 2020 - 9:29pm

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billy the kid

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Dave s discs

My Dave s discs all look fine and brand new, they were only played one or two times at most. Dave s 1 & 3 are full of static and and unlistenable, 2 & 4 don't play at all. So far my other Dave s picks seem fine, of the few I've played and they were all stored in the same box. So hopefully, this is something that only affects the first 4 . No big deal.
May 20, 2020 - 9:17pm

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JimInMD

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Re: Belt Sander

Aluminum will oxidize over time if exposed to air, this is especially true on a thin layer. I never checked this out for myself.. but if the edge is not sealed by the plastic the CD is made from, oxygen and humidity will mix and interact with the metal layer and oxidize it, which given enough time would cause to it to lose it's shape integrity and fail.

If they are not sealing the edges in some way, that can't be good. I'm no chemist, but a rough edge might mean the metal could become exposed to air and given enough time the foil layer could degrade. But I doubt of that's the problem, that couldn't be the case. (In my best Sgt. Shultz Voice) Hogan.. I See Nothing..
May 20, 2020 - 9:05pm

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carlo13

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Winterland

What about the winterland box or other boxes? Is this only a Dap thing? This was probably already talked about but was wondering. I checked bears choice because I've had it for a long time and the disk is much better quality and thicker. The edge is smooth unlike the new disks which need a bit of sanding down. Mabey rhino should invest in a belt sander. Just saying. Peace.
May 20, 2020 - 7:42pm

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JimInMD

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Disc Rot

It would be awfully nice, not that I expect it..

If they somehow accommodated those of us that might have problems with these out of print items. Even if we paid shipping and handling and somehow confirmed an original purchase (or not).

But the amount of goodwill would more than make up for the costs. Anyway.. Charlie got me to do some research too. It's not as uncommon as I thought. I have no idea how much money these guys save by going cheap on CDs// but it ain't worth it. Spend the extra $22k and charge us an extra dollar. ..and I am quite sure the actual savings are less than $22k per Dave's Pick. That's about 25 cents per blank. Reasonable??
May 20, 2020 - 5:27pm

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icecrmcnkd

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DaP2 discs

All 3 of mine look like new.
CD1 played flawlessly and so far CD2 has too, Eyes is currently playing.

6-17-76 CD3, DaP28
Rhino/GD acknowledged that some of the original discs and the first round of replacements had a defect on the master used for CD production that was detected by some, but not all CD players. My Onkyo DX-C390 6-disc carousel player detected it on both copies, but the 2nd replacement played fine. One of my burners did not detect it on the original when I made my HD backup copy.
May 20, 2020 - 10:08am

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Charlie3

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Disc Rot and CD Player Variations

Yeah, when this came up I looked around a bit and you can find a variety of articles describing the various ways that CDs can fail or "rot" over time.

WokeUpDead, your experience with DaP 28 sounds pretty similar to mine - I was using a decade old Sony 5 CD player that played all of my other discs flawlessly but I could not get DaP 28 or any of the replacement discs to play without skips. Later on I got another CD player, an Onkyo 6CD player, and DaP 28 played without any problems on that. Still wondering what that's all about.
May 20, 2020 - 9:34am

#1208

JimInMD

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Willy T and the Disc Rot

uh oh.. Perhaps we are all in trouble..
May 20, 2020 - 9:15am

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Oroborous

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Willy T Jones & the Rot

Sounds like a great band or album name!
May 20, 2020 - 8:14am

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WokeUpDead

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No issues with 2012 DaP disks

As a relatively new rider on the GD bus, I have managed to acquire all of the first year DaP sets on EBay within the past year, all pre-owned and showing varying degrees of wear. I have not noticed any sign of audio degradation or CD player malfunction with any of these. DaP2 has been in heavy rotation recently while anticipating Jai Alai Fronton (worth the long wait!), and unless someone can convince me that the vocal dropout during BIODTL was not part of the original recording then we are definitely good. I am going to go through the others just because it's time to hear them again.

I also have the infamous Disk 3 glitch on DaP28, which was not remedied by a full set replacement or a replacement disk, but I discovered by accident that it consistently plays without incident in the single-tray recording deck of my CD-R player so I have an effective workaround. I own boatloads of jazz & blues CDs going back to the mid '80s and I just haven't experienced a single disk suddenly going bad. There may be audio differences due to the recording standards and formats of the times, but the media seems to hold up remarkably well. I have had CD players go bad and begin to hiccup on different disks, but my current Sony player has been going strong for 20 years.

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"To my ears, the best Dead shows are those that not only fit the criteria that make them amongst the best of a year, but that are also completely unique for their era—shows that fit perfectly into their year of performance, but also fall somewhat outside of the norm for that year. Harpur College, Veneta, Cornell, Cape Cod, and Augusta are all shows that are objectively excellent, and if they are not the best from their respective years of performance, they are certainly unique. Miami 6/23/74 falls into that category: not only one of the very best shows from this outstanding year, but also one of the most interesting and unique. It’s certainly worthy of many, many deep listens." - David Lemieux

¡Ándale, ándale! ¡Arriba, arriba! We're back with a hot one from Miami, F-L-A. DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 34 features the complete show from the Jai Alai Fronton, 6/23/74, one with unparalleled sound quality due in equal parts to the Wall Of Sound and the beautiful sonic clarity of Kidd Candelario's tapes. The first set is chock full of dynamite takes on classics like "Ramble On Rose," "Mississippi Half-Step," and "Cumberland Blues." The second set delivers on the JAMS - one leading into a gorgeous "Ship Of Fools," one rare instrumental version of "Dark Star," and a "Spanish Jam," this is Miami after all! The show also offers up a "first" and an "only" - the former, a Seastones set featuring Phil and Ned Lagin and the latter, the sole Grateful Dead performance of Chuck Berry's "Let It Rock."

Limited to 22,000 numbered copies, DAVE’S PICKS VOL.34: JAI ALAI FRONTON, MIAMI, FL 6/23/74 has been mastered from the 7.5 IPS reel-to-reel tapes to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman. ¡Agarrarlo mientras esta calientito! (Get it while it's hot!)

*Limited to 2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

Subscribed to Dave's Picks? With this release, you'll also get a bonus disc with selections from Miami 6/22/74. Excellente!

Seth, please check your PMs

Sorry for the tardy response!

Dbrewer

Thanks man!

Slow dog

Very cool avatar picture. Looks like a nice day too.

3 in a Row

Dave's: #4, #5, #6:
#4 = 9/24/76 William & Mary
#5 = 11/17/73 Pauley Pavillion
#6 = 2/2/70 + 12/20/69 +12/21 bonus disc.

Only drawback is the two complete shows from #6 have a lot of repeats (as does the bonus disc). But the fact that TC is there for the'69 but not the '70 makes that fact a plus. Showing how some tunes changed (or not).

That UCLA show might be my favorite show they have released on Dave's/Dicks.

I will try for Dick's as well. Very tempted to go 2,3,4 or 10,11,12, but the completist in me cannot quite do it. I will go #28, #29, #30.

#28: 2/26 & 28/73
#29: 5/19/77 + 5/21/77. 2 shows - 1 Encore.
#39: 3/28/72 complete + 3/25 stuff. Academy of Music.

14 Discs!

How about this one for best Bonus Disc

Gotta say 12/6/73 with the 46 minute Dark Star. awesome Greatest Story, China Cat>I know you Rider and Eyes of the World..... tough to beat... bob t

Best Version Ever

A couple years ago someone over on that thread said their favorite China>Rider ever is from 6/22/74, the DaP 20 bonus disc. I've got to get in a few more close listens, but being from '74 you know it's a good one.

Been off this page for a couple daze....

....need to pick my favorite three Dicks and Daves in a row. Oh, the pressure.
I just want you all to know, I look forward to all of your posts. Props me up. 🍻
Three is a magic number people.

Mad Season

I come hear/here for the jazzy threads of conversation, much like how I return to the well of the Dead for the same, through music.

However today I pay tribute to the Seattle bands, given the recent outstanding release of Mark Lanegan's book, "Sing Backwards And Weep."

Honor roll:

Jimi Hendrix
Heart
Mark Lanegan
Layne Staley
Kurt Cobain
Chris Cornell
Mike McCready
Barrett Martin

\m/

At last

DaP34 arrived alive and well in the west of England which fits just exactly perfectly with completion of Europe 72. Weird things to note, UPS and USPS both seem to still think they’re about to hand over to each other at Fontana outside LA (since April 30) and that dreaded customs charge (£13.52 this time) has been levied again.
Hope everyone else also starting to get theirs delivered too. Stay well.

Re: Daily Musings & Top 3 Consecutive DaP's

First.. Awesome news Andrew. Can't tell you how good it feels to get some really good news first thing in the day and a compelling reason to replace your daily news with a daily briefing from dead.net.

As for the best three consecutive Dave's Picks. It really didn't take me much time to put together this list at all:

Dave's Picks Volume 13: Winterland, San Francisco, CA, 2/24/74
Dave's Picks, Volume 5: Pauley Pavilion, UCLA, Los Angeles, CA, 11/17/73
Dave's Picks Volume 8: Fox Theatre, Atlanta, GA 11/30/80
Dave's Picks Volume 9: Harry Adams Field House, U. of Montana, Missoula, 5/14/74
Dave's Picks Volume 11: Convention Hall, Wichita, KS 11/17/72
Dave's Picks Volume 13: Winterland, San Francisco, CA, 2/24/74
Dave's Picks Volume 24: Berkeley Community Theatre, August 25, 1972
Dave's Picks Volume 30: Fillmore East, New York, January 2, 1970
Dave's Picks Volume 34: Jai Alai Fronton, Miami, FL 6/23/74
Dave's Picks Volume 13: Winterland, San Francisco, CA, 2/24/74

I feel compelled to add one honorable mention, which combined with the list above makes this the four best consecutive Dave's Picks:

Dave's Picks Volume 13: Winterland, San Francisco, CA, 2/24/74
Dave's Picks, Volume 1: The Mosque, Richmond, VA, 5/25/77
Dave's Picks, Volume 2: Dillon Stadium, Hartford, CT, 7/31/74
Dave's Picks, Volume 3: Auditorium Theatre, Chicago, IL, 10/22/71
Dave's Picks Volume 13: Winterland, San Francisco, CA, 2/24/74
Dave's Picks Volume 21: Boston Garden, Boston, MA, April 2, 1973
Dave's Picks Volume 23: McArthur Court, Eugene, January 22, 1978
Dave's Picks Volume 25: Binghamton, November 6, 1977
Dave's Picks Volume 26: Albuquerque, November 17, 1971
Dave's Picks Volume 32: The Spectrum, Philadelphia, PA 3/24/73

Whew.. glad I got that out of the way. Not sure why you guys struggled so much and why no one had the same list as me, which I am quite confident is the correct answer.

Favorite Bonus Disc.. easy, …….

Edit / Caveat Emptor - One qualifying comment. You might want to install the "Bad Vibe Be Gone Filter" to your Dead.net app or browser before completely replacing the news with daily briefings from dead.net. A quick install makes things almost exactly practically perfect.

Dave's 34 touches down

Safe arrival in East Kent; no shipping notice, no demand for customs charges, just plopped happily through the letter box 10 minutes and made my day :)

Dr Comedy 66

KENT? My first bike as a kid (under 7) was a Kent. It was made in England. Is that where the bikes were from? Do they still make bikes?

Three in a row

Sir James,

Either your math is off or my reading is really bad.

My favorite release of the series so far is 5. Way ahead of all the others. The next in order of release are 9, 11, 13, 23, 26, 29, 30 and 34.

I don’t really like 28 or 31, so that eliminates 29 and 30, unfortunately. That leaves me with 9, 11 and 13. Of the remaining options, I prefer 12 over 10, resulting in 11, 12, 13.

12 is also one of my favorite cover designs along with 5, 23 and 26. By the way, if Dave did his research, 12 should have been release 13. I do understand that marketing probably played a huge part.

A strong second would be 5, 6, 7. I like release 5 that much and 6 is a great release. 7 comes along by default as I did not like 4 much at all.

Sorry for not including the dates. It’s just too much work. You can use the link, as I did, for reference.

http://www.deaddisc.com/GDFD_Daves_Picks.htm

Kent bikes

I have a Kent water bottle for my bike. I do believe they are the last remaining Legacy bike manufacturer (Schwinn, etc.) that still makes bikes in the US. I could be wrong, someone please correct me if I am.

Kent

I have a kent brush co. mustache comb, so there. Also Daps- 21, 23, and 30. Bonus- NOD. P.S.- JIM, you are correct sir.

Take away the DP Restrictions

and it is 11/9/73, 11/10/73 and 11/11/73...... just a thought... bob t

Kent....

....i have a co-worker named Kent. He's kind of a douche. We won't talk about him.

Bob T. If you're going there

2/27/69, 2/28/69, & 3/1/69

3 Consecutive

Three way tie. These are shows I listen to in full repeatedly. I stuck with a "must already REALLY get a lot of mileage out of the releases" criteria.

DaP 1 May 25, 1977
DaP 2 July 31, 1974 + Bonus Disc July 29, 1974
DaP 3 Oct 22, 1971 + Bonus Disc 3 Oct 21 1971

DaP 11 Nov 17, 1972
DaP 12 Nov 4, 1977
DaP 13 Feb 24, 1974

DaP 16 March 28, 1973
DaP 17, July 19, 1974
DaP 18 July 17, 1976 + most of July 16, 1976

As much as I like the following list of DaP releases that I omitted, they fall into a sequence of three shows where I only like bits and pieces of at least one of the three.

DaP 5
DaP 6
DaP 9
DaP14
DaP 21
DaP 24
DaP 26
DaP 29
DaP 32
DaP 34

Best Dave's Picks Bonus Disk - yikes - so many good ones. I think the Academy of Music one makes up a nice little 1972 set. Get your magic twanger out Jerry.....

I put on To Terrapin: Hartford '77 today. Last show of magical mythical May 1977. Favorite Samson and Delilah. Bobby and Donna have some vocal magic in here. Probably my favorite 1977 Terrapin Station as well. I prefer the shorter 1972 Sugarees with Pigpen's Hammond, but if I'm going post-hiatus, I'm going full bore with the 19 minute epic from this 5/28 show.

Never heard of Kent bikes. I had a Huffy. Are you sure you don't mean Huffy? Not to be confused with Hoffy, my buddy from college. Man he had a hot live-in girlfriend. I shouldn't have but I did. We once went to a Preakness with a group of about 20 people and never saw a horse. Must have been the mushrooms.

Billy the Kid

Yes and Yes!!!!!

Re: I Can See For Miles

KeithFan2112...I'm catching up on the thread...the version of I Can See For Miles that you were hunting for is on The Who BBC Sessions; Best Buy Exclusive Bonus Disc...if you are still trying to get your hands on the song's official release...

From the bonus disc liner notes: "I Can See For Miles is essentially the same majestic take as captured by Kit Lambert on the mono single. The notable exception being John's re-recorded Rotosound strings holding the group together far more prominently in the mix - done to comply with a Musicians Union ban on miming."

I guess i was lucky enough back in 1999 to have purchased the set at Best Buy, which included a second disc with 8 additional songs. I have seen this bonus disc offered on e-bay for cheap...otherwise let me know if there is a way to get a digital rip to you...

Dave's 3 in a row

As many have stated, this is much tougher that I thought it would be. So many of my fav's are part of a trio that include some of those I don't love quite as much.

I think if I had to pick only one, it would be
Vol. 1. 5/25/77
Vol. 2. 7/31/74
and Vol 3. 10/22/71

Bonus disc 1 is my personal fav too, so that's a factor.

Runners up would be 11,12, and 13 - 24,25, and 26 - and 29, 30, and 31.

Peace

Re: AJS

My math was ok and your reading spot on. I just chose to break the rules and it felt so good.. sort of like midnight skinny dipping as a teenager at the local quarry with just the right company. Add in some rock gut malt liquor if she suggests it; it feels absolutely perfect until the cops come.

No offense meant to all the rule followers out there, carry on with your picks of three, I just cannot abide.

For me, it's a toss up between #5 and #13, but mhammond paved the way with 13 good vibes and I just went with it. For what it's worth.. I was having an 11 moment (Wichita 72) four or five months ago and was really getting into it.. when the second set started to take off and at the same time I was interrupted in the worst possible way. I know I will like this show, but at this point it's become a dark comedy.. every time I start to get into it lightning strikes, followed by an earthquake which was caused by this volcanic eruption down the block causing my house to get swallowed up by a sinkhole and eventually I give up before something really bad happens. Distractions kill.

Speaking of which.. we have sort of been bombarded with really good 1973, but Dave has been carefully dancing around the truly great ones still left. One of these days he's going to have to go there.

The dude can’t abide

Nor can I.
I would have to listen to all the DaP’s first in order to decide, and then still wouldn’t have an answer.

But, best GD CD I ever bought?
Anthem of the Sun in 1989. It was only the second or third CD I had ever bought (they were expensive back then) and it was awesome. I didn’t even have a CD player and had to use a friend’s stereo system to make a cassette copy of the CD so I could listen to it in my car.

(Of note, the first CD I ever bought was Saucerful of Secrets in 1987).

Warner Brothers 1749-2

Those are the markings on the Anthem of the Sun CD I bought in 1989. Just started listening to it.

On inspection there was no disc rot and the CD looked like a well-manufactured CD. You can see the detail in the pressing of the metal. Also thicker and heavier. Plays and sounds just fine.
Maybe time for WB/Rhino to go back to basics of CD manufacturing.

Oh, that’s right. They’re trying to wean us old farts off of that outdated medium.

Here Here for Anthem

The single most important piece of music besides 4/19/82 that I have ever witnessed. And the April 82 thingie was a blotter related aberration for which I am eternally grateful.

Anthem was their best studio voyage, in my humble opinion. A psychedelic masterpiece.

Kent, the English county, that is

Kent bikes seem to be based in NJ, and there appears to be no connection to the Garden of England. So no bikes, but we too have some douches; and, oddly enough, I know a lady who sells moustache combs here in Whitstable – although I don't know whether they are Kent brand ("the world's finest brushes" since 1777, apparently, but they are made in Hertfordshire, not Kent). And I still haven't had time to listen to DaP34...

UK

Congratulations to those in the UK that have #34. Mine doesn’t appear to be getting any closer. It left Wayne County, Detroit for a second time on 28th May. 29 days so far and still not crossed the ocean. Hopefully it will arrive before the new Dylan and Neil Young releases on 19th June. I live in hope.

UK Delivery

Colin,
Mine also left Detroit for the second time on the 28th but tracking now tells me it has left Heathrow, UK on route to destination. No demand for import charges (yet).

*RE/ Dave’s Picks #34

... happy to read our fellow DeadHeads in the UK & Canada and other locations in the world! Are starting to receiving their long awaited next Dave’s Picks in the 2020 series!
I hope they make all of you “Smile Smile Smile!”, I know a “Whole Lotta Shakin”is going on around the USA! Enjoy my brothers and sisters! 🙏❤️💀🌹

Mine is still leaving 'a transfer airport in Frankfurt'

since May 26, and I wonder where to?
Frankfurt Airport is only an hour away.

DRCOMEDY1966

Thanks for the info. on Kent! (bikes, brushes, etc. :-P)

Now once set and setting is right, get cracking on DaP34. We'll need a full report! :-)

Glad to hear they are finally getting to where they need to be...

Make it a grateful day everybody!

*RE/ Dave’s Picks #35

...I must admit, I’m already looking forward to the next release in the Dave’s Picks series of 2020 , which is #35...
6/20/80
West High Auditorium, Alaska
Hell is about to 🥶 freeze over in Deadland, imagine!? 😉🙏❤️💀🌹 have a grateful day everyone! Be safe,Be Kind & be grateful! We all have the “Good Ol’ Grateful Dead to help get us tru anything in this lifetime! Ciao’ Bello’s & Bella’s!

Hold the front page

I haven't got Dave's Picks 34 yet! But I am still quite happy waiting. I listened to 5/21/74 yesterday - a stunning show, and beautifully recorded. I am currently very close to buying the vinyl version of 5/19/74, which keeps dropping a few quid every day here on Amazon UK. It would be a massive indulgence-the cds sound great ( I am not fussed about the vocal drop outs at all)...but you only live twice, as the saying goes..

Icrmcnkd…..your comments on cds being heavier and thicker in the distant past before possibly being phased out, reminds me of what happened with vinyl in the 1970s. My first records, bought in 1971-1973 are very sturdy, cut on vinyl that resembles granite. Move forward to the end of the decade and they get very wibbly indeed. I think the idea was to phase them out, first for cassettes and then for cds.

I am not sure what my first cd was. I didn't get a cd player until well into the 1990s. I think it was the head swirling Ozric Tentacles box set Vitamin Enhanced, which, incidentally, still sounds head swirling. Even without the self administered vitamins.
My first Dead cd recorded on tape from a friend was One From The Vaults-8/13/75.

Wibbly vinyl...

Do you remember those ghastly "Dynaflex" albums that RCA released. I can't remember whether that was in the late '70s or later. If you held them by the edge on two sides the middle sagged dramatically. RCA claimed it was improvement over "normal" vinyl. Yeah, right.

Thanks R.E.V.

I appreciate the info. I passed on the BBC sessions, and didn't even realize it had a bonus disc at one time. Just bought a copy on ebay for 5 bucks. Advertized as having some light marks on the CD but does not skip. I'm good with that for $5 (and free shipping).

P.S. - love the Rotosound Strings "commercial" before I Can See For Miles on Sellout.

Late 70’s vinyl

I had read before that the oil embargo was the cause of cheap vinyl. Crude oil is the source of a lot of industrial chemicals and during the embargo there was a shortage of whatever was needed to make good vinyl. Don’t remember where I had read that.

Daverock, I have 5-19-74 on vinyl and like it. Grab it when the price is right.

Wibbly vinyl

Simon,
Dynaflex LP's were issued between 1969 and the late '70's. I have Bowie's Space Oddity and the self titled Lou Reed both released by RCA on Dynaflex in 1972. I remember back in the day showing off by folding them almost in half! Funnily enough both LP's seem to have less surface noise that standard releases that I have from the time.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dynaflex_(RCA)

Dynaflex

Yeah, for instance Hot Tuna's Burgers album. I remember the circle of friends sitting around "the campfire" in my freshman dorm when I held the LP between my hands and pressed it into a "U". Perfect distraction during the flip to side 2.

*RE/ Dave’s Picks #35

LOVEMYGIRL : curious if Dave's Vol. 35 is indeed 6/20/80 - Alaska...did you find an announcement on this? thanks for sharing.

3/21/73 Utica is on Sirius right now!!!

what a show!! bob t

Yorkshire UK My update last…

Yorkshire UK
My update last date 21 / 5 stated just left international carrier facility to be delivered by post office!
Looks as though they are coming in by different means
Let’s hope they all get here!

3/21/73 Utica again.....

Wow got home and listening on internet archive, the Playing is great... Looking forward to WRS Prelude>Dark Star>Eyes of the World>Wharf Rat!!

Dynaflex

Cool link Ian. Jeff I also used to do the "U" hack in the day on these disks. I think it was a Booker t. album. I'm sure we are going to get a professional album critique any moment now . I cant get enough of the new bonus disk. Later.

Call me skeptical about the next Dave's being an Alaska show....

....but I'm in if true. Word among these boards for years was it might be a box set. We shall see.

Still not in Ottawa

Was hoping to get it before the end of May, but alas, still it is not here. Let's hope I can listen to this cd before Canada day.

Have a nice weekend friends

It's 2020

why does it take so long for people to get their discs???

I can talk instantly with some guy in Pakistan. But delivering a CD pack is outsourced to the Keystone Kops, apparently.

bobt: 3/21/73

miiiiighty tasty, for sure.

I still remember the first time I heard it...

1974

Icecrmcnkd - thanks for the nudge in the right direction-I ordered 5/19/74 this afternoon, and it should be delivered tomorrow. With Dave's Picks presumably on the way, 1974 is very much the year of the moment for me.

I am half way through the Road Trips 6/16/74 highlights...and what highlights they are. Superb versions of China Cat-Rider and Eyes of the World, with Playing to follow later tonight, and then a Truckin' jam on the bonus cd. And 6/18/74 after that. Maybe my favourite Road Trips release - definitely one of the best.

I have never heard of these Dynaflex L.Ps. from the 70s.

Daverock / Bobby T

Daverock - Hopefully you have the Road Trips '74 bonus disc with the Morning Dew from 6/18. The quiet, sparse interplay between Keith and Jerry that begins about 7 minutes in will have you picking your face up off the floor.

Bobby T - 3/21/73, aka Haze Over Utica. This one passed the sound test for me so it's in the soundboard folder on my phone. The Dark Star is really the only thing I've listen to off of it. You've motivated me to shift over to that show. I had put on some May 77, but I think it's about time I gave this Utica show it's due. Thanks for the idea. Will get back to May 77 later...

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