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    WHAT'S INSIDE:
    Curtis Hixon Convention Hall, Tampa, FL 4/6/78
    Sportatorium, Pembroke Pines, FL 4/7/78
    Veterans Memorial Coliseum, Jacksonville, FL 4/8/78
    Fox Theatre, Atlanta, GA 4/10/78
    Fox Theatre, Atlanta, GA 4/11/78
    Cameron Indoor Stadium, Duke University, Durham, NC 4/12/78
    Cassell Coliseum, Virginia Polytechnic Institute, Blacksburg, VA 4/14/78
    Huntington Civic Center, Huntington, WV 4/16/78

    Recorded By Betty Cantor-Jackson
    Newly restored and speed-corrected audio by Plangent Processes
    Mastered by Jeffrey Norman
    Liners By Author Steve Silberman
    Artwork By Acclaimed Artist Matthew Brannon

    Limited To 10,000 Individually Numbered Copies
    Dead.net Exclusive

    It’s been said before but April ‘78 was an incredible month for the Dead. Like May ‘77, you could throw a dart and guarantee you hit a stellar show. - KyloRensPecs, r/gratefuldead, Reddit

    .... April/May '78 has a lot of the same qualities of Spring '77 but with some extra edge and a much bigger sound from the Rhythm Devils. A really special era that often gets neglected. - viewtiful_alan, r/gratefuldead, Reddit

    Sportatorium - April 7, 1989

    when drums started I thought, oh s*#!, i hate drum solos and Billy and Mickey stopped me in my tracks. Wow, these guys are really good. Little did I know the pervasive influence this phenomena would have on my life. - pearlybakerbest, Dead.net

    Huntington Civic Centre, West Virginia – 16 April 1978

    This is another must-hear concert by The Grateful Dead. The sound and mix are almost ‘absolutely perfect'... It’s difficult to pick out highlights because everything is played so well; the band are tight, Donna is great and the set list is strong. - Grateful Ted, gratefulted.co.uk

    We're hitting the bullseye with the eight previously unreleased stellar shows that make up FRIEND OF THE DEVILS: APRIL 1978. Filled to the brim with peak performances from the Grateful Dead's post-hiatus period, this collection captures the historic tour where "Drums" begat "Space," morphed into "Drums">"Space" and cemented the Rhythm Devils' second-set power move from the music business to the "transportation business."

    Spring 1978 finds the Dead consistently weaving spontaneous magic, showing signs of great promise and potential - from the no-nonsense rock'n'roll in Tampa, where scholars cite the first "Drumz" leading into "Space," to the lengthy communal get down in Pembroke Pines to Jacksonville where the twain emerge fully formed, offering the primordial opportunity for "soul retrieval." It's evident in the dynamic range delivered on back-to-back nights at the intimate Fox Theatre and through the laid-back unity of the band's performance in Durham at Duke, a comfort that carries over to Virginia and West Virginia where the playing is unbridled, bursting with momentum, threatening to carry itself away. And nowhere can you hear that more clearly than through Betty Cantor-Jackson's original recordings, reliably crisp, bright, and vivid.

    Individually numbered to 10,000 copies and exclusive to Dead.net, FRIEND OF THE DEVILS: APRIL 1978 has been mastered by Audio Engineer Jeffrey Norman using Plangent Processes tape restoration and speed correction. Steve Vance designed the collection’s custom box, which features a removable wave drum. (We invite you to unleash your inner Rhythm Devil.) Acclaimed artist Matthew Brannon created the set’s original artwork. The collection also includes a 48-page book with original liner notes by author Steve Silberman and photos by James Anderson, Bob Minkin, and more.

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  • icecrmcnkd
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    First pass through complete

    All CD’s played fine.
    Today copied to HD, converted to ALAC, and loaded onto a portable music player.
    Now going through the ALAC files to confirm that the CD’s copied to the HD without error.

    It’s fine with me that the Dead air was removed, we got 8 shows across 19 CD’s in the Box. Leaving the Dead air in might have required 24 CD’s which would have driven up the cost and made the Box larger.

  • Vguy72
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    They say laughter makes one live longer....

    ....if so, I just gained an hour!!
    Pulled the last minute trigger to see Blue Oyster Cult in Laughlin (coincidence? I think not!) tonight. About an hour south from here. Rumors swirling regarding Eric Blooms health, so might as well see them while they are still performing because I'm not a fan of regrets.
    I will be taking the first Fox Theatre show with me.
    Update....Close Encounters sighting in the Jacksonville Space.
    Is that the first "official" Space? I'm down for it. The band is on fire!

  • Charlie3
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    I am digging this box. I am listening to the shows in order and up to the 4-10-1978 Fox Theater Show, and so far the sound is good and the shows are hot. Definitely cool to hear the genesis of the drums-space show format in these shows, I was always a big fan of the interlude and the transition to whatever came out of space, but I realize the sentiment was not universal. The design of the box is intricate but actually pretty functional and I find it pretty appealing, particularly now that fivebranch has explained the connection between the devil iconography and the deep south folk art. I'm pretty easy to please, so your appreciation of the box may vary, but if anyone is on the fence about getting this, I would pick it up. Thinking good thoughts for your smooth recovery Oro, good to see your sense of humor is intact.

  • Oroborous
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    I was abducted by Aliens…

    at least that what it looks like after my robotic surgery lol.
    Fun to mess with people who don’t know any better: “hey, long time no see, how ya been” at which point I show em my scars and repeat the above header ; )
    In reality, it’s a long tragic tail involving collapsing vault tunnels AND Aliens.( DL has some serious security at that vault, bastard!), but the only way Bolo agreed to free me from my near impossible situation—(and as we KNOW, the situation is the boss not that douche from Jersey)—was after NDAs and blood oath to NEVER ever mention any details involved in my extrication, so yeah…

    Decided to go full cleanse of everything and anything, including Dead and dead related accessories for my somewhat “routine” procedure, but as things took a bit more than I had planned (all good, just takes longer to heal as ya get older) I kinda just kept with it, and as things have been slow here on DN, then kinda decided to have some fun and see how long it took to notice the absence of my usual over prodigious pontifications and general weirdness lol.
    Thanks to the kind folks who did notice, although that might have been directed toward the Other Oro, Oroboros who did lose his beloved mother recently. Condolences again as “a motherless child has a harder time” a the song goes…
    Chever way/intentions is good, and I’m ok, and hopefully he and his are doing better also!

    But we have been missing lots of good folks who used to add to the mix.
    Big names like Strider and Bolo, and Nappy, and one of my favorite DHs, GOGD, and SKULLTRIP, or even Gratefulhan, Wilfredtjones, Hendrixfreak, Angry Jack, Thin, Kiethfan (and more I’m unintentionally forgetting) and haven’t heard from the Onesies camp, hope things are progressing positively for you folks, and Mrs Doc, and big elephant in the room, PT Barnum…been like a couple months now…gulp. And Franks knee!
    Good to see Jimbo, Charlie, and Fivebranch, Fourwinds and some other “strangers” checking in! The more the merrier and less chance for me to ramble ; )
    Sorry to Mikey, but the fog from the drugs and alien mind erase incapacitated my ability to view said Bat signal until most recently! But do appreciate the RH book intel: of course TOO is such a hopeless book junkie that she already knew. As kind as she, is I’m starting to think her purchasing books for others is just a way to attempt to quell her savage insatiable book Jones…ahem, girls got a bit of a problem.
    Oh, to Mike and all jazz nicks, finished a great book during my time out:
    Three Shades of Blue: MD, JC, Bill Evans and the lost empire of cool.
    His prose is sometimes weird, but great research and detail. I’d call it a must read for anyone with interest in jazz!
    Also Spitz’s Led Zep Bio, good but? Left a weird after taste…
    And another, Once There Were Wolves, interesting fiction. Very informative, but perhaps a tad over the top story line?

    APRIL 78 BOX:
    Finally arrived after what seems to unfortunately have become normal MO of convoluted temporary lost in the ozone again fuckery,…but at least it’s here, ripped and ready and just finished an enjoyable listen to 4/6!
    “Sound sucks”…really? Maybe the sound of the band at the time might not be everyone’s cup of tea, but I’d say the recordings don’t get much better, but maybe that’s just me? Certainly head and shoulders better recording than the previous last dog (ok show, perhaps worst released recording yet?).

    And ya gotta love DHs and our opinions lol. Now I dig Nitecat (and no offense intended!) and all he’s done here and on the toob of use etc, and I get what he ment about the tuning break pace, vibes/nostalgia, but after all these years I’m all for editing out unnecessary “dead air” though banter is always appreciated when space allows, but man I don’t miss the never ending tuning BITD before they had tuners, especially when after lengthy tuning break, they’d start playing and all ready be out of tune( like early 70s and primal) lol. Yeah, thank goodness for Korg tuners! Of course as any smoker knows, half those breaks were probably JG and that ole song (see Commander Cody’s take on ) Smoke, Smoke, Smoke lol
    Solid show and perhaps typical tour opener and already a step up from Jan/Feb run (did all those in order leading up to this box), but from what I recall things only get better, perhaps peaking at the Fox, especially the second night? We shall see, yum yum!
    Oh, dig the blown or overdriven speaker during 4/6 A&A being picked up on the instruments mic! Can’t figure out who’s speaker yet, but as a musician and roadie BITD I’d recognize that sound in my sleep. Just to illustrate how revealing these recordings are! Good Sheet Mon! Thanks to Dave and company for getting this awesome tour all gussied up and out to us!

    Ok, enough ketchup lol, good to see ya, now I need to call my BFF of almost fifty years (and awesome GD music bass player) to wish him a happy biff day, in spite of fucking cancer!
    Be well all, hope everyone gets their box soon and fully digs it!
    And
    DV, go VIKS! Lol

    Rombumzora: have you tried playing the discs on other players?
    The optics do wear out on players eventually…just a thought, good luck!
    ONWARD!

  • frankparry
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    Colin, did you say that Parcelforce is delivering your box? Mine is coming rom DHL and the tracking just says customs cleared but no mention of fees. It has supposedly been on its way for two days. Earlier I thought UPS had it, but that was another order.

  • nitecat
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    Oh yeah, CMD, I recall those long long tuning breaks in between songs. Listen to 71 shows you can hear the long breaks. It was kind of part of their charm, low key and not so showy.

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    Must Have Been The Roses....

    .....maaaaan. That song holds a place close to my heart. It was the song that was playing on the tape in my car the day Jerry died. I don't remember the show, but I remember the song. 🎶 If I tell another what your own lips told to me
    Let me lay 'neath the roses and my eyes no longer see.
    Edit. Billy Strings wife's water broke and he had to leave his Renewal Fest.
    Social media all over the place regarding his decision. I can assume you can guess why.
    Treys birthday is 9/30 btw. The big six O. That would be cool if Ally can hang on just a little bit longer.
    His new record is phenomenal btw. 🍻

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    I LOVE THIS BOX !!!!......only half through the Spotatorium show after finishing Curtis Hixon. I always play in order and never look at the setlists before playing, and that includes DaP's......such a great time to experience the band and great sound..........'78 Dead is sweet. The set stops before one of my shows in Columbus, OH on 4/19. I have several photos of that show as I was shooting for the school newspaper. Still have the 8 X 10 black and white from it. This was the beginning of their "Werewolves" journey. Another thing that I'm especially looking forward to is mastering the ocean drum and going on tour.

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    ....yeah boi!

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    “Let me sing your blues away…”

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Friend of The Devils: April 1978 (Dead.net Exclusive) [19 CD]

 

WHAT'S INSIDE:
Curtis Hixon Convention Hall, Tampa, FL 4/6/78
Sportatorium, Pembroke Pines, FL 4/7/78
Veterans Memorial Coliseum, Jacksonville, FL 4/8/78
Fox Theatre, Atlanta, GA 4/10/78
Fox Theatre, Atlanta, GA 4/11/78
Cameron Indoor Stadium, Duke University, Durham, NC 4/12/78
Cassell Coliseum, Virginia Polytechnic Institute, Blacksburg, VA 4/14/78
Huntington Civic Center, Huntington, WV 4/16/78

Recorded By Betty Cantor-Jackson
Newly restored and speed-corrected audio by Plangent Processes
Mastered by Jeffrey Norman
Liners By Author Steve Silberman
Artwork By Acclaimed Artist Matthew Brannon

Limited To 10,000 Individually Numbered Copies
Dead.net Exclusive

It’s been said before but April ‘78 was an incredible month for the Dead. Like May ‘77, you could throw a dart and guarantee you hit a stellar show. - KyloRensPecs, r/gratefuldead, Reddit

.... April/May '78 has a lot of the same qualities of Spring '77 but with some extra edge and a much bigger sound from the Rhythm Devils. A really special era that often gets neglected. - viewtiful_alan, r/gratefuldead, Reddit

Sportatorium - April 7, 1989

when drums started I thought, oh s*#!, i hate drum solos and Billy and Mickey stopped me in my tracks. Wow, these guys are really good. Little did I know the pervasive influence this phenomena would have on my life. - pearlybakerbest, Dead.net

Huntington Civic Centre, West Virginia – 16 April 1978

This is another must-hear concert by The Grateful Dead. The sound and mix are almost ‘absolutely perfect'... It’s difficult to pick out highlights because everything is played so well; the band are tight, Donna is great and the set list is strong. - Grateful Ted, gratefulted.co.uk

We're hitting the bullseye with the eight previously unreleased stellar shows that make up FRIEND OF THE DEVILS: APRIL 1978. Filled to the brim with peak performances from the Grateful Dead's post-hiatus period, this collection captures the historic tour where "Drums" begat "Space," morphed into "Drums">"Space" and cemented the Rhythm Devils' second-set power move from the music business to the "transportation business."

Spring 1978 finds the Dead consistently weaving spontaneous magic, showing signs of great promise and potential - from the no-nonsense rock'n'roll in Tampa, where scholars cite the first "Drumz" leading into "Space," to the lengthy communal get down in Pembroke Pines to Jacksonville where the twain emerge fully formed, offering the primordial opportunity for "soul retrieval." It's evident in the dynamic range delivered on back-to-back nights at the intimate Fox Theatre and through the laid-back unity of the band's performance in Durham at Duke, a comfort that carries over to Virginia and West Virginia where the playing is unbridled, bursting with momentum, threatening to carry itself away. And nowhere can you hear that more clearly than through Betty Cantor-Jackson's original recordings, reliably crisp, bright, and vivid.

Individually numbered to 10,000 copies and exclusive to Dead.net, FRIEND OF THE DEVILS: APRIL 1978 has been mastered by Audio Engineer Jeffrey Norman using Plangent Processes tape restoration and speed correction. Steve Vance designed the collection’s custom box, which features a removable wave drum. (We invite you to unleash your inner Rhythm Devil.) Acclaimed artist Matthew Brannon created the set’s original artwork. The collection also includes a 48-page book with original liner notes by author Steve Silberman and photos by James Anderson, Bob Minkin, and more.

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You said the magic words

It will be MUATM!!

I really x7 hope you are correct

It will need to be colorized...

How cool that would be

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....Vegas odds are in favor.
Impatient conekid is the best conekid.
No offense to Scranton, but Disc 3 is delightful.
And to piggy back prior comments. Phil is indeed in your face. Damn straight!
The NFA is prime Lesh.
Happy Birthday Jerry.

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If Duke is 2024 muatm that would be great cleaned up and all, but not included in the box?

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Erasec erase

"Getting a little carried away there..."

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shhhhh.....

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Lest we forget that Jerry experienced a mike malfunction during the first two numbers,
although the Dire Wolf turns out to be a nice instrumental. I vaguely recall us singing the Jerry part during the Jack Straw opener...for encouragement! Jerry gives us major payback with Peggy O, and that was the exact moment I met the future Mrs. Big.

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I recall that the generally excellent Dick's Picks #18 (2/3/78) (released 24 years ago!) suffered in spots from some bandy squelch, timbres distorted, signals not just exactly perfect. Any danger of that on this box? Was that a specific tapes or show issue there?

I'm getting tempted to order this. And this should be a non-issue but the dubious artwork is not whetting my appetite. Although this very tasty Half-Step on the Listening Party is quite something.

Peace!

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Cosmic synchronicity if I ever heard it!
What a moment in time.
Cheers

Re noise on 2/3/78

I thought that was only on my copy

It always annoyed me, too

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....Bob Lopes is in town. Jim In MD is going to be in town soon.
Meet up at Sphere is the plan tomorrow.
Jim & Co going to hang at our humble abode for a couple of evenings.
Been a long time coming.
🍻
Mayer slammed his index finger in a truck door a week ago.
The fret hand. Word is he is learning to play with three fingers. Word on the Shakedown Street re last nights show is that he pulled it off.
The Days Between indeed.

Hi there!
I can send it as whatever file format you want - suggest a wav or flac - just give me an address and I'll wetransfer it

Ian

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I'm a devout Dead Head and collect most everything related to the Dead. I've been following the dead since Terrapin Station was released. My first live tape exposure was to part of the 4/11/78 show. I often contemplate the box purchases for a few days (and then end up buying them anyway). This box is a no brainer. I almost didn't even need to read the setlists because I could start to hear the songs from memory just by seeing the dates. Needless to say, I have to have this box. These shows are jems, My one complaint is Jems should be boxed as such. The artwork to this set is a deterrent. I have been collecting rock and jazz show posters for 40 plus years; initially because of the way they tended to capture the essence of the music. I'm sorry Mr. Brannon, but this artwork is not a match to the music of this era for me. It reminds me of the doodles I used to do on my junior high notebooks. Other than that, what a nice collection of shows!

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I have a few - still sealed - of DaP 37.. if some of you need it to complete the box - let me hear from you.. bw from Copenhagen

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Hey DS BGE, I notice the source for some GD shows on the archive are tagged as "SBD.GEMS". Is this the same as "Jems", and can someone explain to us in the great unwashed, what that means?

Also, like GD eras, cover art is a matter of taste. Annual box set releases usually far surpass the first glimpse provided with their announcement – the real deal is expanded in unexpected directions with many surprises. After checking out the FOTRDs poster (which is pretty cool), I can't wait to see the actual box. (BTW: I thought the cover on Dave's 51 is . . . well. . . kinda basic, with no fully developed box coming to the rescue. The music inside is already more than making up for the visuals.)

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Jeff,
My apologies. Had just gotten out of bed and my spelling was off, Jems should have been gems. SBD is soundboard. (I collect SBD, not fond of AUD, just my sound preference). I have a Utica '73 show that is a SBD. GEMS. I sourced that from online and believe GEMS is: Graphic Environment for Mulitmedia Storage.
I own 18 or so of the box sets, suffice it to say that beyond that, I have an expansive collection. I take the GD seriously. I also collect posters and prefer the Kelly/Mouse, Rick Griffin aesthetic. Of the boxes I own, I wasn't thrilled with the MSG "In Out of the Garden" artistic design either, but I did find it whimsical. I'm not arguing the quality of music or content. Simply my artistic preference.
'78 was "my coming of age and Dead enlightenment period," so I have to have this box. Art is subjective, no doubt. Given the size of my collection (and home) and the fact that I literally budget for Dead music each year, at some point I'll have to stop. I imagine that will be driven by the timeframe of the specific box release and/or the value of the package to me based on appearance and the storage space it consumes.
Just finished listening to DP 51 a second (enjoyable) time. The cover of it, as a tribute to the Office's, Michael Scott (and Scranton) (right down to the dead song related desk tchotchkes), coupled with the music itself, put a smile on my face.

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I am often asked what I'm going to do with all these Grateful Dead Cd's, lp's, downloaded SBD's and burnt shows from the internet including 2 digital storage bays full of complete shows. I really don't have any offspring to leave them to and I'm the only one besides my better half that even listens to the Dead in my family. I know, it's not the kinda thing that one thinks about while on that quest to be a "Dark Star completest", but as life happens and uncertainties occur sometimes, I wonder about that and if, if something was to happen, who would benefit and appreciate this 45-year obsession. Causes one to pause and contemplate.
Surgery on Thursday, 5-hour procedure, 7 - 10-day hospital stay, 6-to-12-week recovery time.

We will get by, we will survive.

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The most important thing for me is how the cds are packed. Can I get them out without risk of scratching them, or do I need to remove them from the box after the first listen and house them in separate plastic or paper holders. That's the question.
I don't know what will happen to all my stuff when I slip this mortal coil. End up in a charity shop or a skip, I suppose. Won't bother me, where I'm going!

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Best of luck Thursday.
My wife will be selling my Dead collection ASAP after I'm gone, lol. I will leave notes on how to best monetize that for her. I'll tell her to start here!
Cheers

I have a massive music collection and am not a young guy. Was on the phone with someone 2 years ago buying a certain poster for my collection. The seller had a warehouse full of posters and had just found out he had cancer and we were talking about the same thing. Neither one of our kids could care less about what we've amassed.
I liked his response to me. " We're Deadheads. Enjoy your collection. Look at it, listen to it, love it. When were gone, maybe someone tunes into it. If not, it becomes one with the earth, just like us. who could ask for more? Man, just enjoy it today."
That works for me.

@ Pt barnum , just asking the same question for my gd collection. It took me such time, all dicks picks & nearly all dave's, 2 years unsubsribing. The best serie starts from dicks 28 to 36, for me.
Cheers pt barnum, life day to day is not easy, but nothing can match life itself...

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....told my son and my wife some of what I own is worth some $$$.
Ask high. People will pay.

5 hours, No Bueno!
We’ll be thinking good thoughts Thursday!
We’re are everywhere, and we’re with ya!

Yeah, think same thing about all this crap, especially when I get stuff I won’t listen to…same with all this gear? Ah well, like BGE’s buddy says (and Brent ; )
“Ah, what the hell” enjoy it for its intrinsic value, not it’s extrinsic.

Hmmm, sounds like someone, or maybe REX, should set up a “donate your awesome collection for charity” division. You leave your precious to the org, they have specialist who knows how to get good price, efficiently, and the proceeds get paid forward to do some good! I think that’d be cool, and I bet the boys would dig their art/life’s work continuing to go Furthur too!

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Oroborus, I think that's a fantastic idea about donating records, cds, and posters to charity. I have tons of records,,CDs and old posters that would bring a lot and it would be nice to have someone who could get the most value for them so it could go to charity.

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Positive vibes for a speedy recovery!

Peace

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I'm usually apprehensive about surgeries, but am always reassured by the professionalism of the medical team, amazing 21st century technology, pain meds, nubile nurses, etc. Hospital food even seems to have gotten better. All the best on Thursday. As you can tell, everyone here's pulling for you! Onward.

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Thanks for the deciphering the "GEMS" acronym for me. I always wondered what that meant. According to wikipedia, it's "a graphical programming language for real-time audio processing." Hmmm. . . seems to work pretty well in the hands of Miller, Tobin, Waddell, et al. Still a sorta mystery to me, but not as much now. Thanks!, "Geff"

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Best wishes for a successful surgery and a speedy recovery buddy!

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....tis but a fleshwound.
Vampire Weekend is a really interesting cool sounding band.
I'm going in.

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45 years ago I was up at the Oakland Auditorium for the first time (but certainly not the last ) for a rocking evening with the Good old Grateful Dead. What a blast! The first time Garcia played his Tiger Guitar, the first time the Dead played Althea, Lost Sailor/Saint of Circumstance. The good old days. P.T. Barnum, good luck on your surgery, I'm sure you will be fine. I've had a few, next thing you know you wake up and its all over, just seems like seconds.

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Vampire Weekend - one of my kids is a fan, he saw them play about a month ago, with Mike Gordon’s band opening, who he said were pretty good. We try to introduce “our” music to one another, but honestly, VW was a swing and a miss for me. Meh.
Oro - Fantastic idea about donating collections to charity. My kids show little interest in inheriting my modest collection, including music books, etc, so why not get it out to a true fan. I don’t want my 30 Trips box to just end up with someone “mildly interested”, for example. Collections are mana for the devoted.
PT - I wish you the best on Thursday. Operations can be reason for apprehension, but they are also THE best sleep you’ll ever have. As they say in Gaelic, “ Sláinte!!!” (Good health)
Artwork - I think the artwork on the new box pretty neat, almost in the style of Jean Basquiat, and a nice change from the overuse of the regular cartoon skeletons of previous boxes. I still think the Pacific NW Box was the gold standard for graphics and art, pretty hard to beat. But it’s not about the outside, always about what’s inside that matters.

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Good luck buddy.

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I am overwhelmed with the outpouring of love from everyone. Thank you. The best sleep ever? far out, I hope and pray that it goes just like that. So many good thoughts, so many...thanks again for all your reassurances, I needed that.

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My thoughts are with you.

Getting old sux. However, I believe that medicine in general is way better than even 20 years ago. Generally docs know how to control pain and give proper time to rehab. I know as I was just moments away from death just a few years back. I believe that it took over 50 doctors to think about all systems to figure out game plan to save my life. I too am putting off surgeries, which is never good. Sending positive thoughts your way for a speedy recovery.

My brother had to have major back surgery a few years back. Took surgeon 12+ hours to finish. My brother was in a horrible car accident in 1981. As a result, a cyst grew and attached itself to the spine. The doctor had to delicately cut the cyst out without leaving him paralyzed. When I met with him afterwards you could see how swollen his hands were. He was in his early 30's. The reason it took so long is, he had to take breaks to rest his hands and to eat. I told him, "I know you are ready for more advanced robotic surgery." He responded yes.

So I am with you this week and all the way through rehab. Get well out brother!

G

Running back through 51 and 37. Took some breaks with so good ole fashioned electric bluegrass.

51 very enjoyable indeed. Just wish it had a touch more psychelic touches. Although, "I am a Pig man!"

Oink!

wow recapture is tuff today.

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No question medicine is getting better all the time. During the covid lockdown I had 4 surgeries including back surgery. 20 years ago they wouldn’t do it. Now a great success. From almost not walking to walking into work every day. Very nice

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I'd agree with that. After a very minor operation last year, on coming out of the anaesthetic, I was asked if I was in any pain. Nope. He then asked if I would like some morphine, in case I experienced pain over the next hour or so. I said....go on then. When I was discharged later the same day, they asked me if I would like to have a bottle of morphine to take home with me. Very considerate. Not like in the 60's, when they just gave you a biscuit - if you were lucky.

folks positive thoughts on Docs etc.
Been fortunate to mostly stay away from those bastards lol.
But, things change lol
Few I have had, have been good, especially the first surgeon.
Have some outpatient surgery end of month, supposedly this Doc is “da man”!
Does Dante so only 10-14 days recovery, versus 4-6 weeks old school via sliced and diced, and it’s (hopefully) outpatient! They used Dante on TOO, and she only had to stay overnight, with dramatically different recovery, for a hysterectomy! Amazing!

About the gas: when your just coming round again, and they come check on you, and if it’s a busy place they’ll want to nudge you along. Professionally and politely, but…so when I had my last colonoscopy and the nurse comes and asks how I’m doing, I give her this shit eating grin and tell her I haven’t felt this good in forty years lol Then, when they know your all good and try to get you going, I asked her if I could just please sit a few more minutes and “enjoy the ride” lol
Poor girl didn’t know WTF to do with me lol Man that propofol is good sheet!

So see PT, yinYang like most things ; ) Hopefully your docs are as “caring” as Daverocks ; ) !!!

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Well known fact that us "druggies" pop up faster after being put under. We just have more experience. I have surprised a couple of post-op nurses that way. "Oh! You're up already?"
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