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    Friend of The Devils: April 1978 (Dead.net Exclusive) [19 CD]

     

    WHAT'S INSIDE:
    Curtis Hixon Convention Hall, Tampa, FL 4/6/78
    Sportatorium, Pembroke Pines, FL 4/7/78
    Veterans Memorial Coliseum, Jacksonville, FL 4/8/78
    Fox Theatre, Atlanta, GA 4/10/78
    Fox Theatre, Atlanta, GA 4/11/78
    Cameron Indoor Stadium, Duke University, Durham, NC 4/12/78
    Cassell Coliseum, Virginia Polytechnic Institute, Blacksburg, VA 4/14/78
    Huntington Civic Center, Huntington, WV 4/16/78

    Recorded By Betty Cantor-Jackson
    Newly restored and speed-corrected audio by Plangent Processes
    Mastered by Jeffrey Norman
    Liners By Author Steve Silberman
    Artwork By Acclaimed Artist Matthew Brannon

    Limited To 10,000 Individually Numbered Copies
    Dead.net Exclusive

    It’s been said before but April ‘78 was an incredible month for the Dead. Like May ‘77, you could throw a dart and guarantee you hit a stellar show. - KyloRensPecs, r/gratefuldead, Reddit

    .... April/May '78 has a lot of the same qualities of Spring '77 but with some extra edge and a much bigger sound from the Rhythm Devils. A really special era that often gets neglected. - viewtiful_alan, r/gratefuldead, Reddit

    Sportatorium - April 7, 1989

    when drums started I thought, oh s*#!, i hate drum solos and Billy and Mickey stopped me in my tracks. Wow, these guys are really good. Little did I know the pervasive influence this phenomena would have on my life. - pearlybakerbest, Dead.net

    Huntington Civic Centre, West Virginia – 16 April 1978

    This is another must-hear concert by The Grateful Dead. The sound and mix are almost ‘absolutely perfect'... It’s difficult to pick out highlights because everything is played so well; the band are tight, Donna is great and the set list is strong. - Grateful Ted, gratefulted.co.uk

    We're hitting the bullseye with the eight previously unreleased stellar shows that make up FRIEND OF THE DEVILS: APRIL 1978. Filled to the brim with peak performances from the Grateful Dead's post-hiatus period, this collection captures the historic tour where "Drums" begat "Space," morphed into "Drums">"Space" and cemented the Rhythm Devils' second-set power move from the music business to the "transportation business."

    Spring 1978 finds the Dead consistently weaving spontaneous magic, showing signs of great promise and potential - from the no-nonsense rock'n'roll in Tampa, where scholars cite the first "Drumz" leading into "Space," to the lengthy communal get down in Pembroke Pines to Jacksonville where the twain emerge fully formed, offering the primordial opportunity for "soul retrieval." It's evident in the dynamic range delivered on back-to-back nights at the intimate Fox Theatre and through the laid-back unity of the band's performance in Durham at Duke, a comfort that carries over to Virginia and West Virginia where the playing is unbridled, bursting with momentum, threatening to carry itself away. And nowhere can you hear that more clearly than through Betty Cantor-Jackson's original recordings, reliably crisp, bright, and vivid.

    Individually numbered to 10,000 copies and exclusive to Dead.net, FRIEND OF THE DEVILS: APRIL 1978 has been mastered by Audio Engineer Jeffrey Norman using Plangent Processes tape restoration and speed correction. Steve Vance designed the collection’s custom box, which features a removable wave drum. (We invite you to unleash your inner Rhythm Devil.) Acclaimed artist Matthew Brannon created the set’s original artwork. The collection also includes a 48-page book with original liner notes by author Steve Silberman and photos by James Anderson, Bob Minkin, and more.

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  • Doingtheneedful
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    Salisbury range is quiet tonight. The big BOMBS are resting...

    As I sit down to start the onerous task of shredding Friend of the Devils CD's to add to my "cloud" library, I see the news that Phil has laid his last bomb on this plain. I'm staring out of my den window into the dark, Salisbury Live Fire Range well within earshot, quiet tonight, and I chuckle at the irony.

    Here's to Phil. Not just unrivalled at his craft, but also one of the tidiest, most free, incredibly lucid, beyond comparison instrumentalists, Phils is up there in the pantheon of all time great improvisational musicians to ever have played. Phil bought it each and every show... A living oxymoron of precise freeform melody and wildly inventive noise. All performed literally live and without a net. Many a time have I mentally isolated Phil's "space", in awe of the effortless contortionism of his unique antithetical ouvre.

    Personally, I think that Phil was to the 'Dead's lower register, what Jerry was to the High side. It seems almost sacrilegious to suggest it, but I'll put my money down and suggest that Phil's space in the band was as pivotal as Jerry's... No Phil, no 'Dead.

    Thank the maker that we have all of this legacy music available still. I look forward - should I be so lucky -
    to many more years of getting lost in the Phil Zone.

    Rest up old boy. You done good! Best to Phil's family and friends. Thank you in absentia to the donors and their families who helped Phil in later life. I hope there's some salve in the legacy and the joy still to share and share again.

    x

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    Phil just passed away. It's a sad day at casa JimInMD. I am flying my freak flag at half mast. Phil was a legend, a talented musician, he spoke his mind and he was a kind soul.

    I had the pleasure of meeting him once, we hung out and drank beer for four or five hours and talked Grateful Dead and assorted stuff. I will never forget that night.

    Rest in peace Phil. Let it be known you made a great difference in this world. Come hell or high water I was going to venture to the Capitol Theatre this March to see his 85th Birthday shows if they could pull it off. I'll have to wait until I get to the other side to make that happen.

    Such a bummer.. no smiles for me today.

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    FRIEND OF THE DEVILS FLAC 192/24 DEBACLE

    Count me among the disappointed customers who shelled out hard-earned currency for a very flawed product. I lost count of the number of songs across various shows in the set that were marred by skips and pauses.

    When I first reported this I received a quick reply and a new set of download links. There was no acknowledgement of the problem, just new links. I downloaded one of them and it too had songs with skips. I have since reached out again, and now the folks at dead.net/rhino are silent.

    I'll provide an update if I hear anything. In the meantime, anyone else who has experienced the same thing with the Friend of the Devils download set, please make your voice heard.

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    Friend of Devil Flac problem

    I also found numerous skips and gaps even after downloading the flac files twice. Support has been unresponsive. I finally instituted a disputed charge

  • daverock
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    That was my first Dead album too. Summer 1976 it came out in England. There was one side of the triple album "Glastonbury Fayre" which featured about 23 minutes of Dark Star from Wembley 4/8/72 that I got a few years before that.

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    Oh yes Jim, I remember Steal your face. It was very hard to find in the mid eighties and when I finally got it, I was excited at the time.

    I believe they put it together very quick to try and raise some money after Ron split with $650k of the bands money.

    I will say the 2004 Grateful Dead Movie Soundtrack is some of the best sounding 74 I have ever heard. Love it. So, certainly think they could give us some more. Dave also mentioned (in the 2004 Grateful Dead reissue) that they had more movie footage to put out another movie. Don't know for sure, but again it would be great.

    Pinkus has a new unboxing video for this year's box. We owe him a lot and he has been very instrumental in bringing us tons of fantastic releases. Keep them coming!

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    I think SYF was my 1st GD LP. College dorm guy next door was a very knowledgeable CA deadhead and he seemed to think it wasn't a very worthy release at that time (during hiatus) so then I worked backwards to Skull & Roses, Aoxomoxoa, Live Dead, EU72 and by then Blues For Allah came out. Needless to say I was hooked.
    Cheers

  • JimInMD
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    October '74, All Music Edition

    I wouldn't worry about the All the Video Edition. As I understand it, Jerry rode that horse to death, and it almost bankrupted the band (or did it bankrupt them?). I don't think they have the resources to pull it off and even if they did, I do not think they can make a return on the investment.

    I even think the All Music Edition is problematic. When Steal Your Face came out (anybody remember that double album?), Bear and Phil complained that the recordings were problematic, something about the original mix being in Quad or the differential mics bleeding through or something like that. I seem to recall the box we got didn't come easy but I could be wrong.

    So who knows what if anything we will get from this run, but I still want it. Each and every glorious show, yes to audio. If they somehow cobbled a few more hours of video that would be a cherry on top but I'm not holding my breath for that much new video from this run being released.

    As for 78 and cocaine, etc. I find attraction to different years and eras at different times. Some things do not appeal to me but given a different time and setting sometimes they break through, and I get sucked in. On the other side of the same coin, the GD never got everything exactly perfect. They came close but there was always something that ventured off course, seemed astray. Like they were constantly striving for something just beyond their grasp and then by chance when they got there, they didn't quite know what to do with it. And for me, that's the appeal. That's what keeps me coming back. The adventure, not the destination. The willingness to take chances and keep things fresh.

    My favorite Brown Eyed Women's are from Spring '78 and some of my favorite Peggy-O's. Was there excess, of course, but there were diamonds in the rough. Go through some of those older boxes or shows less travelled, toss one in the player and don't be surprised if it sounds better than you remembered. Like the Stella Blue on Steal Your Face.

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    I'd rather the complete run be released on cd than dvd. When I am listening I can go anywhere, but when I am looking at a screen I tend not to lose the plot as easily.

    It always strikes me as a bit strange that cocaine is often cited as a reason for 1978 shows being the way they were. I got the impression that it became their drug of choice for playing live many years before then. 1974 being a good example, going off reports from the time.

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    Sad to say that this was not the Dead's finest hours. A total transition period with very little continuity of song choice as we saw in earlier years. Cocaine had also made its presence highly known during this period, so that probably accounts for a lot of it. I saw the Atlanta show and it was nice to hear Peggy-O and Candyman, but things just didn't seem to quite flow so easy.

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Friend of The Devils: April 1978 (Dead.net Exclusive) [19 CD]

 

WHAT'S INSIDE:
Curtis Hixon Convention Hall, Tampa, FL 4/6/78
Sportatorium, Pembroke Pines, FL 4/7/78
Veterans Memorial Coliseum, Jacksonville, FL 4/8/78
Fox Theatre, Atlanta, GA 4/10/78
Fox Theatre, Atlanta, GA 4/11/78
Cameron Indoor Stadium, Duke University, Durham, NC 4/12/78
Cassell Coliseum, Virginia Polytechnic Institute, Blacksburg, VA 4/14/78
Huntington Civic Center, Huntington, WV 4/16/78

Recorded By Betty Cantor-Jackson
Newly restored and speed-corrected audio by Plangent Processes
Mastered by Jeffrey Norman
Liners By Author Steve Silberman
Artwork By Acclaimed Artist Matthew Brannon

Limited To 10,000 Individually Numbered Copies
Dead.net Exclusive

It’s been said before but April ‘78 was an incredible month for the Dead. Like May ‘77, you could throw a dart and guarantee you hit a stellar show. - KyloRensPecs, r/gratefuldead, Reddit

.... April/May '78 has a lot of the same qualities of Spring '77 but with some extra edge and a much bigger sound from the Rhythm Devils. A really special era that often gets neglected. - viewtiful_alan, r/gratefuldead, Reddit

Sportatorium - April 7, 1989

when drums started I thought, oh s*#!, i hate drum solos and Billy and Mickey stopped me in my tracks. Wow, these guys are really good. Little did I know the pervasive influence this phenomena would have on my life. - pearlybakerbest, Dead.net

Huntington Civic Centre, West Virginia – 16 April 1978

This is another must-hear concert by The Grateful Dead. The sound and mix are almost ‘absolutely perfect'... It’s difficult to pick out highlights because everything is played so well; the band are tight, Donna is great and the set list is strong. - Grateful Ted, gratefulted.co.uk

We're hitting the bullseye with the eight previously unreleased stellar shows that make up FRIEND OF THE DEVILS: APRIL 1978. Filled to the brim with peak performances from the Grateful Dead's post-hiatus period, this collection captures the historic tour where "Drums" begat "Space," morphed into "Drums">"Space" and cemented the Rhythm Devils' second-set power move from the music business to the "transportation business."

Spring 1978 finds the Dead consistently weaving spontaneous magic, showing signs of great promise and potential - from the no-nonsense rock'n'roll in Tampa, where scholars cite the first "Drumz" leading into "Space," to the lengthy communal get down in Pembroke Pines to Jacksonville where the twain emerge fully formed, offering the primordial opportunity for "soul retrieval." It's evident in the dynamic range delivered on back-to-back nights at the intimate Fox Theatre and through the laid-back unity of the band's performance in Durham at Duke, a comfort that carries over to Virginia and West Virginia where the playing is unbridled, bursting with momentum, threatening to carry itself away. And nowhere can you hear that more clearly than through Betty Cantor-Jackson's original recordings, reliably crisp, bright, and vivid.

Individually numbered to 10,000 copies and exclusive to Dead.net, FRIEND OF THE DEVILS: APRIL 1978 has been mastered by Audio Engineer Jeffrey Norman using Plangent Processes tape restoration and speed correction. Steve Vance designed the collection’s custom box, which features a removable wave drum. (We invite you to unleash your inner Rhythm Devil.) Acclaimed artist Matthew Brannon created the set’s original artwork. The collection also includes a 48-page book with original liner notes by author Steve Silberman and photos by James Anderson, Bob Minkin, and more.

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Received the shipping notice last night. Shipped out Fed Ex. Fingers crossed for delivery by the weekend.

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Nice TN John. You must have the magic touch with the shipping as you always seem to be at front of the line. Nothing for me yet. At this point it looks like next week.

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Label created yesterday.
Surprised it was Fedex.
Must be box size.
Cheers
Thanks for the tip Obeah.
EDIT: Tracking now says Friday!

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My GD box is still in California so I doubt I’ll see it before next week. However, this might give me some time to play the new Dylan box which has dispatched in the UK so should be here in the next day or two. The Neil Young ‘deluxe’ box is sitting a few miles from me in Liverpool but won’t be delivered until I pay the taxes. I can’t do that until I get a letter (!) telling me the amount. Have they not heard of the internet? My weekend listening looks to be crowded.

Edit: RIP JD Souther.

Another 130 Reelz is wowzer; forgot to comment on that.

Appears the Unlimited Road will go on beyond my lifetime for sure.

That is exciting news also.

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Thanks for the BBQ update. Got me pokin around. Looks like that location was less than 5 miles to the Greek. Looks like it is closed now. I love bbq, grew up with it in my baby bottle. Saw their mention in the national magazine, and almost ordered a case of mild and hot, but their sauce has sweetness to it which I do not enjoy. May order a bottle of each. Looks like a happy family with a substantial Q presence. Turns out they were born less that 50 miles from where I am; you may remember that. Also only25 miles to the joint that developed Alabama White sauce. Fantastic on slow smoked chicken. Did an enormous Q tour when I lived in North Carolina for several years including the differences between East and West NC and then down into South Carolina. Great smokey mustard based sauce from that region. Unfortunately due to health, I have had to cut back on Q, and a lot of other things. Weird, I have beef short ribs roasting in the oven, been 5 hours so far. Bout to throw them on the smoker for about 45 min to an hour. Short ribs are tricky, still trying to mess with ways to cook.

Any way, thanks for the rabbit hole. This is a hole I thoroughly enjoyed. As A matter of fact I have thought about offering to help folks with a southern tour. Maybe hit Nashville (Ryman), Memphis, and Muscle Shoals. Possibly even New Orleans. As you can imagine tons of great entertainment and food. My health aint great but if there were enough people that wanted to I could help. Maybe even see if some European counter parts might want to joint in. Thing is I have 3 surgeries coming, 1 basic, 2 more tricky.

Guess I shouldnt be cooking short ribs. D'oh!

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Received the Dylan 74 box today. I'm 2 discs in and thoroughly enjoying it. Impressive performance and for £3 a disc the recordings are excellent. Highly recommended.

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Gary, Big Bob Gibson's Bbq in Alabama developed the White sauce. I've bought some from them before, also some bbq dvds. They win lots of awards at the bbq competitions. Ive bought bbq pits from both Texas and North Carolina and had them shipped to me.

Big Bob for the score. Got to eat there before he died. Been too many times to count. He and family also have and had multiple locations. One closest to me burned down maybe 18 months ago. Still waiting and wondering what will become of that part of family.

Didn't realize you were that big of an aficionado.

Blows my mind thinking about seeing Scully getting Q for Jer. Makes me grin big. Another story there also.

When you get into southern Tennessee there are joints all over the place in small barely known about places that only locals know. My brother lives on a farm in Tennessee and our family has a partnership with a family that owns a spot. They also raise cattle. They use brother's farm to rotate cattle. Every so often we buy a full cow wholesale. Great food, I only eat beef and chicken now due to health.

Just blows my mind a west coaster is so inamorate with Q. Although all great food through out this country spread around. One of first lessons to small business/entrepreneurship is to find something and take it elsewhere. I was in tokyo 28 years ago, wish I was the first to bring yakitori chicken to the states. Small but growing, will spread. I admit yakitori chicken hearts weren't my fav at all; too chewy. Another restaurant had these big rooms where 30 or so gentleman would meet to eat, fellowship, talk business. There was a grill in the table between every 2 people. That is popular and growing also. Thing is, between every 2 people behind you on the wall, there was a beer tap. Just reach around for enjoyment. First night in this tiny county in southern Japan, I had to learn a valuable lesson about drinking too much again.

May explain more later, gotta jump.

G

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Just musing about how long after official release this big Debel Box sells out? It contains the last big chunk of what was the 'missing Betty Reels' aside from a bunch of random shows from various years and of course what's left of the Port Chester run. 5 of the 8 shows are from that haul, as was Davez#37. Last years Sunshine Box was gone in like a few hours at best! Lucky for me about a week prior I decided to pre~order figuring 'what the hell' money ain't no issue now. Although originally after first announcements I had only pre~ordered the single 6/10/73 show for various reasons. Sure glad I came to my senses & acted fast because it was quickly gone. I didn't realize the magnitude of the May`73 run and the RFK shows. That Sunshine Box fit in perfectly with my PNwBox, to which I was lucky enough to pick up that Box of Boxes 2 & 1/2 years after initial release!

R-120SW subwoofer
RP-500M II speakers, with stands.
12 gauge copper speaker wire.

After Vguy’s new subwoofer acquisition I started looking and decided to upgrade during holiday sales later this year.
But, the subwoofer has been replaced by a newer model and this one was more than 50% off. The speakers and stands were also on sale.
All delivered today.
Got it set up and am breaking it in so it’s ready when the new Box arrives.
Phil sounds grate on the 12-inch sub.

The first post didn’t ask for reCRAPTCHA but then told me that my answer wasn’t correct.
I then took the quiz (motorcycles, but the photo was a moped) and passed, which generated the double post.
Erased it and replaced with this.

I also got a shipping label generated by Gnarlywood.

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I blew a gasket when I saw FedEx delivery, I have a UPS premium subscription specifically to avoid the Dead.net UPS/USPS circle jerk. And so now FedEx will deliver to USPS and I'll wait longer.

According to the dimensions it is not a big box..

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Shipped late Wednesday afternoon for me. Fedex. Just the shipping label at this point, which means even though both origin and dest are in CA I won't see it until Monday at the earliest. But that's to be expected.

Package size showing as 10x10x8 - hmmm. PacNW box was 10x10x14. (Inches)

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....I'm going with baby steps. My Onkyo bookshelves are getting old and tired. Fact.
Just picked up Gilmours new record today at Target while getting food at the Petsmart next door for three of this households best friends. Also just Pre-ordered Billy Strings new record due on 9/28. And the Surfragettes new record. Due in October. Cool all girl surf rock band. There is my vinyl spending for the month.
No shipping notice here yet.
New avatar is the wife and I getting off our first train ride. Ever.
Edit.....shipping notice just dropped. No more intel however. Par, meet course.

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FedEx as well. Showing a Tuesday delivery. No USPS hand off. FedEx home delivery, which is great.

Next week will be fun.

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Is there a better day than "Box set day"? I can't wait to hear this stuff. By April 1978 Jerry’s voice is string again and they're still tight like 1977 (I prefer April 78 over Oct 77 - tighter and more rehearsed IMHO). And many of the songs on Blues for Al and Terrapin grew in 78 (jams and whatnot).

What I won't be doing is including rhythm Devils tracks on my digital folder not even ripping this crap. The only thing worse than wasting 20 minutes of concert time that could have gone toward ANY real songs is to "theme" a box set after this bathroom break activity. What next - 74 box to celebrate Seastones? Drum solos should have been eliminated by promoters for everyone but Bonham and Peart. I would say Moon too but his routine was a constant drum solo all the time (but with the who playing around him).

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Tracking still says: Awaiting Processing, Whittier, CA - Sep 16, 2024, 10.23h AM PT -
So, next week should be a good week!
Looking forward for first comments.
Cheers Gerd

Dark-Star has me laughing out loud...

Deadvikes, I hope you are correct about no hand off.

VGuy, Thats a nice picture. :)

My box has made it to New Mexico, I am in Central New York :(

I'M IN, BABY!!!!!

The 20-minute drum solos? Yes, I can live without those.

I was listening to 4/14/78 the other day and...nearly 20 minutes of banging and clanging.

Got shipping notice for the box and the vinyl - makes sense to ship separately, but no date yet to New England...

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Interesting be the comment on drum solos, even more so when a few well known percussionists of all time are name dropped. {Humorously correct about Keith Moon} I would argue that 'Rhythm Devils' is more than just a simple drum solo, to which the Dead did plenty of. I would also surmise the 'Rythym Devils' era was some of the best drum solos the Dead did, but there were also some great Brent era versions, especially during the early 1980's. Now anyone needs a bathroom break every now and then, and also must choose an opportune time to do so. Though to dismissively cast away drum solos {aside from time length duration} would be to test the wrath of one of the greatest all time percussionists, Ginger Baker! All due respect to Ginger and may the Great Spirit rest his soul, he passed on five years ago this October. {There is a great documentary about Ginger with the same name as my post title} If Ginger was alive and within earshot of any drum solo condemnation, you better beware of Mr. Baker!

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About 90% of the time i'll listen to drums. Its part of the flow of the show and i agree there are great ones in the 80s, and the 90s too. I'm a fan of the beam.

Poor drummers. They barely get more respect than banjo players. Every time they step out to do their thing they look out at people turning around to head for the concessions.

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Mine has finally been received at Whittier and was processed at 6.32 am Pacific Time, September 19. Its on its way at last!

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My box was sitting on my porch this morning, a day early!

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I thought that was little harsh about drum solos and Seastones too. Having said that - I don't think the drum solos in 1978 were that great - but both drums and space in the following decades were interesting. I have said before, when I saw them on 11/1/90 drums-space was the highlight of the show. I wasn't remotely in my "right" mind - be-mushroomed is the phrase that comes to mind, and on that night, all the songs - including Dark Star - were just alright. Nothing to get too excited about -pleasant enough background music. But when drums started to develop - the world came alive. Followed by space - I felt like I was living it. Back to Not Fade Away, everyone singing along - time to get your coat - or at least have a bathroom break, knowing you might never get back.

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Simonrob,
tracking site now shows an additional DHL Tracking-No (DHL de), saying transportation to destination Germany,
Th, 19.09.2024,17.17 h.
Wunderbar
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...DEVIL'S Box...
well, now
I have a much better
understanding & appreciation
after having listened
to the 1st two GOOD Ol' GRATEFUL DEADCASTS
(1) Friend Of the Devils: Florida, 4/78
(2) Friend Of the Devils: Atlanta, 4/78

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I see the same, but 2 minutes later than yours at 17.19.

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Nice set-up. I may be buying a Klipsh 12" sub if my current 12" SVS sub is done. Do not think it is. One good thing is as one poster put a few years back "Good clean sound trumps all." No affiliation. One thing I know my system, it is usually music thunderin'.

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April 78 Drums: meh (ironic, I know, given the new release)

later on, ja, gerne.

my first show 7/18/82: the Drums section was great (the Space was greater...flying saucers, I tell ya.)

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It also makes a huge difference with drums and space being there - with all that entailed - and listening to a recording at home - with all that entails. It's not going to blow my mind in quite the same way, listening to cd of drums and space sitting here quietly in my living room with just a cup of tea and a biscuit to fortify myself.

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Mine's showing delivery tomorrow. Maybe Fed Ex will be hitting my carport right after work. I was scoping him out in the neighborhood when I took my walk after work today. Lol

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That ALL drums solos are rubbish ... except for the ones he played. And maybe a few of Art Blakey's.

Not a big fan of 'em, myself. Because unless you're a genius on the Ginger Baker/Art Blakey level, there's generally not much going on in terms of, you know, music. Most drum solos are more like feats of athleticism ("watch how many cymbals I can get ringing at the same time!") and self indulgent excess ("I bet you were wondering why I needed 47 different toms") than actual musical improvisations.

The Rhythm Devils were an exception, but then again ... that's probably because what they did was not a 'solo'. Because there's two of them. It's a percussion duet, and sometimes trio, quartet, etc if band members felt like participating. So it wasn't just one guy wanking away up there. There was some interaction and some development of ideas.

I always thought Drums/Space was a key part of the show, so I wasn't one of the ones headed for the head. I'd usually try to make a break for it during Me and My Uncle. Which is a cool song, the first two or three hundred times you hear it.

Last five!

Zappa: Make a Jazz Noise Here
Brad Mehldau: Day is Done
Miles: Nefertiti
Zeppelin: How the West was Won
Airplane: Crown of Creation

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Yeah, ironic that Like Dark-Star, I will be skipping drums on this Rhythm Devils box.
What bugged me most about drums, was the predictability. After 78, you just knew there would be a long drums interlude interrupting the flow of the 2nd set, unlike previous years when they showed up in a more organic way, and sometimes not at all.
So from that point on, shows followed a format, pre-drums songs > Drums > post-drums songs. Don't think they ever deviated from this pattern, except in Amsterdam 1981.
I'll take Art Blakey, Max Roach, Brian Bennett, Dave Lombardo, solos anytime though.

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Captcha got confused...

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Billy Cobham
Lenny White
Jack De Johnette
Trucks/Jaimoe
To name a few
Cheers

....and has too many nicknames to count. Jon Sullen Melancholy is my favorite. Right behind Tubbs.
Didn't think I'd see so many drumz/space skippers.
Personally? Beat that shit right on down the line. My wife doesn't enjoy them. It's OK to not be OK.
Label is still being created re my order.

....I've gotten lost in a few of them.
What's going on?
Vinyl shipping received.
And The Race Is On.
Booyah.
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Label is on the package. Currently in Oceanside, CA.
Literally. Right down the freeway.
I bet when that bullet train between Vegas and SoCal is finished, if ever, it would be here before I finished this post.

Regarding Ginger Baker, not only is his extended solo on "Wheels of Fire" the worst track on the album, it's also one of the worst recorded drum solos I've ever heard. Unlistenable. He got kicked out of Hawkwind after one album.

Drum solos were generally something of a cliche in the early 70's, as I remember. Many bands featured them - particularly in the heavy rock world. Black Sabbath used to move through their set like a freight train, then the pace would slow down, band members would gradually slope off stage, and drummer Bill Ward would start an interminable solo. Then he would be replaced by Tony Iommi, who would play an unaccompanied guitar solo - bit of Django Reindhart in there. All very nice, but hardly in tune with the moment. Then the full group would come on and pick up again from where they had left off about 20 minutes ago. They always seemed to play twice as fast and hard as they had done before. Quite a break they must have had back there.

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My GD box has a DHL code now but they don’t say they have it yet, it’s shown as ‘Open Status’.
The Dylan box has just been delivered. No chance to hear it yet, but on the plus side the 27 cd box is small and easy to store.
I’ve paid the taxes on the Neil Young box but refused to pay £12 to have it delivered on a Saturday. It should arrive on Monday.

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...Duke FOTDevil's watch party on youtube was a fun time capsule trip

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The watch party on the "Tube" was quite enjoyable last night. Slow to start but really picked up as the show went on. Jerry was very animated and constantly smiling. Great to see.

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My Label has been created but not delivered to FedEx yet.

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My download will not work. I get an error message essentially saying file not found. Is Dead.net aware of this problem?

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Got an opinion on that too early in the morning.

There are a lot of incredible drummers out there. Was insomniac the other night and turn channel and the Journey 1981 show from Houston was on so I watched most of it, even though I have a recording of it. Steve Smith incredible drummer. Some may great drummers. Omar Hakim that played with Sting during early years, check out I burn for you on the toob.

Being a former drummer I really like the video on the toob of Dave Weckl, Vinnie Colaiuta, Steve Gadd - Buddy Rich: tribute. An amazing segment of different drum styles, love all 3.

Watching toob, pulling toob makes for a very nice afternoon. More on D/S l8tr.

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