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For all the great knowledge of Dylan. Learned a ton. Always have been a huge fan as writer/composer but never thought that much of him as a deliverer of the art itself. Never in a million years would of thought he would tape so much music. I mean I know he taped a lot just didn't fully comprehend. So definitely the time to dig a bit deeper, especially with the Band backing. Interesting on his website for the coming tour he has something similar to a GD skeleton with a syringe in one hand and a gift box in the other. Any one know about this imagery? Of course, knowing about the Dylan and the Dead tours.

As I have explained before, I was always into the music more than the written word/poetry/lyrics.

Looks like the Heaven's Door Distillery is trying to prove it deserves market share. Looks very very tasty, indeed.

....now hear me out first.
Apparently they are playing next Tuesday in Phoenix. OUTDOORS!
Granted it's at night, but wtf? It's still well over 100 degrees after that burning ball of gas in the sky sets.
But Paula Abdul will be there, so there's that.

Lol

Outdoors in Phoenix

Hot yes

Further festival in 1996 in eastern WA was well over 100 F

LAS VEGAS 1994 was 115 F

Not very comfortable

Paula Abdul 1989? Ja, gerne

....then again, I was already toasted before going in.

Mindful of time? This would be my pick if I could only have one Bard desert island album. The best tracks are spooky and haunting, like walking down a deserted dirt road with Mark Lanegan under a moonless, dark midnight.

\m/

Workingman's Dead

Live Dead

Crow - yes, I've noticed that we seem to have similar tastes in music too. I agree with your perception of Dylan's change in approach from the Before The Flood shows to the ones recorded for Rolling Thunder. Quite significant that on the dvd included in the Rolling Thunder box, Patti Smith makes a brief appearance, both performing and after her show improvising poetry with Dylan. This must have been pre Horses. It shows how by this stage Dylan was embracing new artists, and was no longer content to rely on his 1960's reputation and slide into becoming his own tribute act.

I also like Trouble No More. A truly great band and the whole box really takes you into the mindset of the period.

So where's the announcement?
Knock, knock.
It's Dave man.
Dave's not here.
No man, I'M Dave!
Open up! I've got the stuff.
(pause)
Dave's not here.
Cheers

Thinking of kindred spirits, it would be good to hear from Mr Ones again. Hopefully you are okay, if you are reading this.

Whoops...double post.

I had a nice lady send me a text a couple of weeks back. She is a wound care specialist. She was looking for Dave to see if he needed and help. It is a number I have had for years. I responded back, "In the words of Cheech and Chong 'Dave's not here' man." Went on to explain about me having the phone for years. Some reason, she didn't text back.

Thinking about the Dicks rehash folks were discussing recently.
IF…If they were to do that, since they’re giving them the full treatment for vinyl release, then they should offer hi res Bluray music discs, or at least a USB stick option! There are a few I’d rebuy if they were “full treatment” hi res upgrades!
The DLs don’t seem to work well enough, especially for those of us who don’t have enough bandwidth to do so.
BUT, only in conjunction with the current release schedule, like Crow, I want it all lol ; )

Edit: still think yearly there should be 2 boxes; 1 biggin, 1 smaller, and 5 Dave’s; 1 60s, 2 70s, 1 80s, and 1 90s. Or as usable 70s start to dwindle, 2 80s, AND! Id be nice if they gave us the occasional stand alone, ala Sunshine Daydream, Rocking the Rhein, Nightfall of Diamonds etc more often!
Greedy, I don’t think so, hey, we all have needs ; )

Yeah, where is Mr Onesy? Still missing regulars after the dreaded HN apocalypse.

PF, was it over a hundo at Gorge Furthur fest 96?
I recall it was hot in Reno, and now that I’m reminded, the Gorge, but unfortunately I was so whupped by that point after working the shows from Pittsburg onward, I don’t recall much except tried to sleep unsuccessfully through much of the Gorge in order to drive to Eugene after. Place was beautiful at night!
That tour was fun, needed, but grueling…

Someone should check with the RCMP if there were any reports of someone making a seaside chat who slipped and fell into the water and was eaten by a mob of angry seals.

I've been poking around the GD YT channel to see if the latest Seaside Chat would show up as an unlisted video. Pretty sure that happened last year around this time. I can't recall who first noticed it then, but so far nothing similar is happening for me. I did stumble across Dave's "a message from Dave Lemieux" video from 8 months back, and in there he says something about volume 51: "it's something that I don't think a lot of people are going to see coming, but I think it's also going to blow a lot of minds." I've seen the rumor that 51 will be 9/26/91 and certainly folks who were on that tour speak very highly of that night...

As to the box, I'm with ya, Oro, I'd be glad to spend a little coin on a smaller box each year as well. The RFK mini box comes to mind.

I do wonder if the longer wait for this year's box announcement might be a strategy to see if the PTB can move the remaining copies of LttR in the meantime. Of course, since Dave also alludes to working on this year's box all the way back in Feb. 2023, I also wonder if maybe we really are going to get October '74. B/c weren't those reels in sort of questionable condition thanks to all the GD movie work...? I'm afraid I can't recall particulars so maybe I'm mistaken about that... but I wonder if it's been a bit of extra work for Mr. Norman and his colleagues... maybe that explains the lack of any announcement yet.

Devil's advocate: just like the HCS '73 box, an October '74 box would presumably sell fast, esp if they're going to keep the run to 10,000 copies. I don't think they'd really need to drum up hype for that. /shrug

pation for the

Box announcement
Daves51 announcement
MUATM announcement

51 will happen soon

Box and MUATM...not holding my breath on those

....love it. Makes me laugh.

In an Elevator! Priceless! Makes me love them even more!

it's keeping us ALL waiting, enuff tis, let's GOOOO!

Hilarious stuff!
New album released today.

;)

All the anticipated announcements will happen during "the days between"

....does that bit mean that Phish officially covered Aerosmith?
Google Seth Rogan Grateful Dead for a laugh.

I just got done poking around (bc you've just got to) on Twitter and I saw someone's handwritten setlist for 5/3/77. Wherein Estimated Prophet was listed as "California." Common enough in '77 but it still makes me smile to see it.

Not much twitter activity of late from that Lemieux feller, though. However, he did post a briefly reply today (about the RFK 7/12/90 show) so hopefully his lack of volubility is because he's busy dodging seagulls and getting distracted by otters and starfish whilst recording the latest Seaside Chat...

Mike Gordon regularly plays Sweet Emotion at his solo shows. As for Phish, they did Walk This Way 9/29/00 in Las Vegas with Kid Rock. Have tried to forget about that show. They did some cool covers that tour, including Bob Marley's Mellow Mood to unexpectedly start the tour, and 2 nights later Jonathan Richman's Roadrunner as a one off.

Winter, spring, summer or fall...

I'm still thinking were going to get our first winter box. Thank you Uncle Bobo...

MUATM I think announcing the movie will let the kitty out of the box.

51 Still hopping for the Honolulu shows.

Would be cool if Mr. Norman could do a remix of Warlock's Box '89 for vinyl. A cd box of Spectrum '89 would be nice also.

With always a two month preorder on these as of late, past September releases were always announced in July. Which draws me to the conclusion {current possible July announcements notwithstanding} that this will be an October release with an August announcement. That leads me to believe that this years 2024 Big Box Dead release will in fact be the October 1974 Winterland shows. Happy 50th anniversary! So as to the "Halaska" rumors, that (leak?) may well be a test sample of enthusiasm for a future box release, since these compilations are planned well in advance.

(((retitled post)))

....he just uploaded GD 9.4.83 Park West, UT on the toob the other day.
It's not Santa Fe, but we're getting warmer!
9.29.00 Phish in Vegas. Yeah Alvarhanso. I burned that show from my brain as well. You are correct. The next night was Treys birthday when they announced their first hiatus. One of the first concerts ever live streamed if I recall correctly.
We don't talk about the '04 Vegas shows 'round these parts.
A longer break was indeed needed.

What happened at the 03 Las Vegas shows?

Not up to snuff?

Kid Rock? 'scuse me while I barf a while

Still no announcement. Ugh. Wondering if 51 is going to be a heater. Like once announced remaining copies outside of prescription will sell out in a day or so. Maybe trying to get 51 sold out with this next announcement.

Startin to get itchy.

"scratched till I bled"

So we have DPs and the annual box as Standard Operating Procedure. So far, so good.

But they've got to figure out a money-making way to release the '68 tapes and the mini-box:
Pigpen, 1965-1971 (mostly live, but featuring the best of the Pig solo (even low-fi home recordings).

Just doing a cannonball into the pool while no one's watching.

I kinda think that, in retail terms, August is a pretty lost month. Most commercial activity picks up after Labor Day. Thus I'm guessing that we have 18 more daze to learn of this year's box.

Consider as you will, I've never been right before.

Cheers, HF

If only they could include that Australian release by Ron McKernan, "Bring Me My Shotgun". Dave's announce may have been delayed by the earthquakes.

of Poseidon in Mexico.

A sculptor could make one of Jerry holding a guitar

Another cannonball into the great pool of puddled lysergia

"You're probably feeling
Like a human cannonball"

Hey hey hey rockers!!!

I have it on not good authority that 51 will be 1/21/71, returned tapes 1/22/71 will be used to fill out the CDs. So get ready!!!!!

I have realized that the past and future are real illusions, that they exist in the present, which is what there is and all there is......

Rock on rockers!!!

Doc
I look to the future because that's where I'm going to spend the rest of my life.....

Ja, gerne

The Phish went into Vegas in April 2004 for 3 shows to start the year, coming off a good to great 2003 return from hiatus, and the Vegas shows were universally panned as awful. Addiction issues were likely causes (not just Trey), and those shows were supposedly big reasons for the breakup that was set for August 2004 after a festival at Coventry, VT, which turned into its own muddy debacle and poor way to go out. 5 years later, they returned, with a newly sober Trey, and they refocused and have been much, much better since then. 2004 still had some good moments, even those Vegas shows had a couple good moments (couldn't tell you what they were as I last listened to them 20 years ago now), but I would imagine folks here know how that can go. So, it was very good that they took the appropriate time apart, got themselves in better spots mentally, physically, whatever, and came back stronger.

Eta: I would much rather Doc's prediction of 1971 than of 9/26/91. Not opposed to 1991, I'd just rather it be a 4 disc Greensboro 1991.

Maybe it will be another one from Spring 1977, and Dave's a bit nervous about making the announcement.

that would mean they recovered the missing reels... Smokestack Lightning, H2H, a 25 minute TOO... the aud thats here is boomy, too much ambient noise, thrilling to have a clean, though doesn't quite fit with Dave's early hints.

Daverock with the coffee chortle of the month! 😂

I was there that weekend. I remember being puzzled by the shows and the music. I agree with Alvarhanso that there were some good moments, but I too cannot remember them specifically. What I mostly remember is this deepening sadness as the weekend went on. I kept waiting for the magic to happen, but across that stand there were just some fleeting flashes of formerly glory that felt like parlor tricks rather than anything sustained and powerful. I do recall we were all puzzled that Kuroda wasn't there...

Nevertheless, after seeing Phish live each year since '92 (I mean other than the hiatus) my disappointment was so profound that by the time we flew out of Mc Carran on Sunday, I told myself that I was done seeing Phish. And I took my own 20 year hiatus. It wasn't until the Sphere shows this past April that I finally looked in on Phish again. And I was glad I did, because they weren't the same band I'd seen in Vegas on that fateful weekend... they were better, much, much better.

There are a lot of shows I'd have my ears on before 9/26/91. That Fall tour comprises eighteen shows spanning just three cities (3 in Richfield, 9 in NYC, 6 in Boston), all in September '91, with the 26th being the tour closer. Now, if my facts are accurate, Dave has only released one show from Boston - Vol. 21, 4/2/73 - which also happens to be the end of the tour.

But I've always wondered at the selection of 9/25 as Dick's Picks Vol 17. By that point, of course, Latvala was dead and gone, so this was a Dave's pick in all but name. (I mean then again Dick had all those notebooks and maybe he had this one slated for release.) It does feature "That Would Be Something", the first Grateful Dead version of the song and the only rendition with Bruce. For that matter it was the only one for another two years, until the song entered the occasional rotation in mid-1993. But idk, I caught it once (at San Diego in Dec '93) and, well, it's a nice little tune but it didn't rock my world, ya know? (Although after all these years I can still hear Garcia singing the refrain - though I seem to recall he sang it as "pouring rain" rather than "falling") And anyway, the rest of that set II just never really wowed me. That said, I've never heard a note of 9/26. And the setlist is certainly promising. So maybe they ginned up some lightning in a bottle for that tour ender. Or... or... maybe this is just an unfounded rumor.

I was quite grumpy about that release back in the day

Haven't listened for a loooooong time

It's time to check it out again

I love 9/26/91, I think I liked it better than the 25.
9/10/91 was part of Boxilla.
I listened to the whole tour in order 3 years ago, here’s what I came up with…

Possible Fall 1991 Box (the last consistently good tour?)

9/6/91
9/8/91
9/16/91*
9/22/91
9/24/91
9/26/91*
10/31/91*

Favorite/must haves*
7 Shows
66 one time songs: really good selection!
16 Repeats
6 Threepeats
(Not including D&S)

The three peats are: Dar Star, Attics, Let It Grow, Saint, Stranger, and Good Lovin’

The repeats are: Spoonful, Dark Star Jam, Wang Dang, Candyman, Maggie’s, Standing on Moon, Last Time, Stella, Samson, Eyes, TOO, Bertha, All Over Now, Heaven’s Door, Minglewood, and A&A. Hey, no matter how you slice em, Bobs ALWAYS gonna have repeats!

9/17 and other Oakland and Richfield are probably worthy, but then you start getting into more repeats and perhaps too big a box?

Works all done, Fire it up!
Yer welcome ; )

Going 84 Dark Star tonight!

be at Electric on the Eel in 87, the envy is all mine

Of course! Lol
Lucky dog was at everything ; )

7/13/84

I had the good fortune to be there

America...what has become of you

God bless the Grateful Dead

They brought/bring happiness and joy and community and positivity to the world

Tangled up in red, white, and blue

It was a very cool scene, up in the redwoods, right on the Eel river. Lots of cold beer, lots of electricity.. 3 great sets of music. The next day we went down to the Greek Theatre and saw Garcia & Bonnie Raitt play. Big fun!