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"We left with our minds sufficiently blown and still peaking..."
We're headed back to that peak with the newly returned tapes from Broome County Veterans Memorial Arena, Binghamton, 11/6/77. The Grateful Dead's last touring show of 1977 finds them going for broke, taking chances on fan favorites like "Jack Straw," "Friend Of The Devil," and "The Music Never Stopped," carving out righteous grooves on a one-of-kind "Scarlet>Fire" and a tremendous "Truckin'." An ultra high energy show, with a first set that rivals the second? Not unheard of, but definitely rare. Hear for yourself...
DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 25 features liner notes by Rob Bleetstein, photos by Bob Minkin, and original art by our 2018 Dave's Picks Artist-In-Residence Tim McDonagh. As always, it has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman and it is limited to 18,000 individually numbered copies*.
*Limited to 2 per order. Very limited quantity available.
Get one before they are gone, gone, gone.
3FTVLSD
Three From The Vault Limited Super Deluxe box
02.18.71 The Capitol Theater, Port Chester, New York
02.19.71 The Capitol Theater, Port Chester, New York
02.20.71 The Capitol Theater, Port Chester, New York
02.21.71 The Capitol Theater, Port Chester, New York
02.23.71 The Capitol Theater, Port Chester, New York
02.24.71 The Capitol Theater, Port Chester, New York
Take my money please!
RSD Artwork
....on a bed of roses :)...I love the art work on this up coming release :)
https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/28577273_1015536145727665…
Good catch, Sixtus...
Actually I may also have attended one of those Boston shows. Either '76 or '77 we shot up there in my pal's Toyota Celica and had to sleep in it half-way back to NJ.
You read me right originally, I was in error and too lazy to fact check my memory.
And Duryea once again hits the jackpot! I'd gladly wait on Summer '73 to get my sweaty paws on the full Feb '71 Capitol run. I believe there was much chanting for this when we were in the grips of forensicdoc fever.
Re: Forensic what???
My aging memory..
Channeling my inner 1971 might help.. (for the next five weeks anyway).
9/11/83 Help on the Way
Thanks all for there HELP. ;) I have some listening to do.
I do remember 9/11/83 and the Help>S>Franklins.... I recall a pretty good audience recording (the old 80's paradox where the audience recordings improved while the SBD quality fell off a cliff). But I know the 80's Help on the Way's are hit or miss. There's a LOT of very technical, prepared parts including odd timing signatures in this song and it's tough to bluff your way thru it - you're either well-rehearsed or your flailing, and Jer-bear spent a lot of the 80's struggling to get through this song cleanly.... I recall one or two versions that were VERY rough (possibly '85, which would make sense since they shelved it quickly in early '85.)
I also recall 11/2/84 was in heavy rotation in my cassette deck - Help has some great moments despite the quick pace, blown lyrics galore and COMPLETELY blowing the dismount into Slip (which may have been caused by the caffeinated pace.... and speaking of fast Help on the Way's, see 6/9/77)
And no, the length of the song never changes too much... the only variable is the length of the guitar solo between verses 2 and 3. I'll never forget getting the Betty's of '77 and realizing that on 5/9/77 and 6/9/77 Jerry takes 3 runs through the guitar solo (!!!) instead of just one, as I was used to on 1FTV's 8/13/75 (until then, my only live version) - I was so excited, pumping my fist in the air... As I gave cassette copies to friends I told them "GOTTA check out the triple solo on Help on the Way!"
Lack of Help on the Way 1978
I think sometimes when I am deciding what to listen to between 77 and 78, not having the Help/Slipknot/Franklin's combo makes me lean toward 77. I know the 1/2 Step/Franklin's combo started in 78 and we were introduced to Shakedown towards the later part of 78, is awesome to listen to, I can only wish. Lacking that combo leads to some repetition that started that year.With that being said, I have posted before on here I think one of the most unique sets is 11/20/78 Cleveland Music Hall Set II!! Box on the Way!!!
Did someone mention 9.11.83?!....
....yup. Sure did. A Santa Fe mini box of the three shows they played there would make my year!
What we have here is a failure to communicate
Clearly, the people here want Boxes, Boxes, and more Boxes.
I think that the June ‘76 Box should be modeled after the recent Pink Floyd Box which has several small releases, each from a single year, that can each be purchased individually, or combined into a single larger Box that contains bonus material.
Thus, the June ‘76 release could consist of mini-Boxes, one from each city with all the shows from that city in the mini-Box (except for 6/9 which has already been released on CD), and each mini-Box could be purchased separately. (6/18 was part of the Download Series and never released on CD, and so would be released on CD this time).
Or, all mini-Boxes could be obtained in a single Box that contains all of June, and bonus material from ‘76.
Dave, can you hear me?
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Daaaaaaaave........???
Uh, Dave's not here, man...
So I had to be the dork to say it. There! Now I can wait another 30 years to try another aging stoner retro "joke."
But wait! I don't HAVE 30 more years.
Although this fresh Sativa is making me feel invincible again...
Box set
I'm with Dave D. Release the 71 Capitol run.
Sorry folks, but 76 just doesn't get it done for me. Too slow and meandering for my taste. I realize certain shows may be worthy, but overall, meh.
Other than the Cap run, the Ark or a 73 summer box, I'm at the point where I will likely pass on box sets. I rarely listen to the 78 box or the 77 box. The latter not based so much on interest, simply listener fatigue over the years.
More and more I find myself reaching for the old standbys, FW69 and E72.
Well it's been a day...
Hope all on the east coast enjoyed the snow day. Was kind of fun until 2, yes 2 trees fell on our house. Damage is pretty minimal and no one was hurt thankfully. All Dead shows are safe and accounted for...
About to pour the biggest glass of red wine you've ever seen and dive into some of shows mentioned below. Always been a big fan of H>S>F so should be a fun journey...
Nash Bridges
Barry Chen: If you want to find Tiger, this is where you'll find him.Insp. Joe Dominguez: This is a marijuana club.
Barry Chen: I know. Totally legal under prop 215 as long as you have a valid medical excuse.
Insp. Joe Dominguez: For what?
Barry Chen: Weed. Pot. Dope. Marijuana. Grass.
Insp. Joe Dominguez: No, I mean what's wrong with you?
Barry Chen: Oh! Depression.
Insp. Joe Dominguez: Depression?
Barry Chen: Yeah, I get really depressed when I'm not getting stoned.
Help On The Way
This is my favorite song to song jam sequence after China Cat/ I Know You Rider. My favorite version is the one on "One From The Vault". I love when Mr. Graham is announcing each member and they go into their part of the song. Listened to version on early spring of 1983. Very good version, Jerry's voice is real smooth, his guitar playing is clean and he is not missing a note. I kept listening to the recording and it is a great show. I saw them play the Spectrum several times in the 70s, They probably knew where to set each knob. During their career, they played the Spectrum around 56 times. They did not play the Wall there, they used the Convention center. The Wall might have damaged the Spectrum. Not the sturdiest building. Best, Jim
Funny stuff DD
Angry Jack,Careful or your old stand bys will soon suffer from listener fatigue.
Which is why new Boxes are constantly needed.
Slow and meandering........
Yes, just exactly perfect........
Nash Bridges 2
Barry Chen: I can probably get him to set you up.Insp. Joe Dominguez: Actually, I stopped smoking pot years ago.
Barry Chen: Oh no? What's your drug of choice now, man?
Insp. Joe Dominguez: Uh, Rogaine.
Barry Chen: Rogaine? What's that? Do you snort it?
"[about Harvey]
A.J. Shimamura: Jerry Garcia's been dead for months. When's he going to take off that armband?
Nash Bridges: Probably when his LSD runs out.
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Ice
Agreed. Although I fear that I don't find the time to listen as much as some here. A few disks a week is about as much as I can manage these days. I'm still working on 2/27/69 from last month.
Unfortunately most listening occurs in the car. All the downloaded files are fine for the sound quality of those speakers.
80sfan
Holy crap batman... check your pm.
Sorry to hear this man.. I had a 150 year old maple tree branch fall on my house about three years ago.. mangled the roof near the spare bedroom and I am still dealing with fixing the gutters and a few other bent odds and ends...
Be good man.. and I hope the bad things happen in threes can wait a while aka kids, we are going to sleep in the basement tonight....
FW69 and E72.. the problem with my old motto, the best was the last thing I listened to is.. if you only go to your old standards, that's all you end up liking. :D
Have a good night all.. looks like Larry Campbell and his lovely wife are sitting in with Phil and Bobby tonight.. channeling a good Sugaree??
(an)other one
Glad to make your heart grow Jim. That's my mission. Pearly's been true to me, so...
(though I cannot take credit for 5/24 praise, that was libertycapps97211, my ears are pretty ignorant of that one, but looking forward to another listen...but speaking of Lyceum, oh that 5/25 show is dreamy: UJB>DS>Wharf Rat is heaven and just a mellow tasty vibe to the whole show).
Haven't heard all of the DaPs (i'm talking to you 1-4) but otherwise my top ten are quite similar to Slow Dog Noodle:
11 11/17/1972 Wichita
5 11/17/1973 Pauley Pavilion
13 2/24/1974 Winterland
21 4/2/1973 Boston Garden
17 7/19/1974 Selland
18 7/17/1976 Orpheum
15 4/22/1978 Nashville
16 3/28/1973 Springfield
9 5/14/1974 Missoula
12 11/4/1977 Colgate
7 4/24/1978 Horton Fieldhouse
. . . and maybe with another listen or two one or both of these will join:
23 1/22/1978 Eugene
24 8/25/1972 Berkeley
Fiendishly,
Pearly
dave's picks
You can listen to the ones you don't have here.
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=dave%27s+picks+1
Well, stop your picking....
....and start your grinning. That's a nice link Dave.
I could only dream...
...of immediate access to everything like we have now in 1995.
Question for the GoGD Peanut Gallery: Are the 9-15/16-78 Giza, Egypt show(s) really that bad?!?
mbarilla--Best Of All Time
From my notes for DaP 25, I have "BOAT Half-Step?; BOAT Dupree's?; BOAT Music?; BOAT G.Lovin'?"
I don't have answers, but any time I ask if MAYBE no fewer than four songs from one show are possibly BOAT, then I know it's an awesome show.
Are the Egyt shows really that bad?
Yes, unfortunately. Going off the recorded evidence anyway. Having said that, I have always enjoyed the Estimated from 15th, on the bonus disc from Rocking The Cradle.
Random stuff on a snow day
Taking a break from shoveling 5 inches of SOLID slush... a few thoughts.
80's - Sorry for the trees on the house. We had a big branch fall on our driveway (just missed wife's car - luckily I put the car on the other side of the driveway to avoid... potential falling branches!) and a neighbor's tree fall on another neighbor's house (wife and I trying to decide who pays for removal? - My take: Ya don't make them pick up the leaves, why is the tree falling any different?).
Egypt: Definitely not great, imo, and there's too much "great" to waste time parsing through this release. I'm sure it seemed like a good idea when they planned to release it: "1978 is a good year, Egypt itself has a lot of mystique, the box art will look so cool! Let's do it!"." But yeah, apart from some moments of brilliance and some cool grooves with Hamza El-Din (sp?), quite unremarkable. I remember my palpable disappointment when I tape-traded for these. "Egypt!!! Wait, what the hell?"
GOAT Good Lovin on DP25?? Where to start.... First of all, you have to distinguish between the long, jammed-out "Other One"-ish PigPen versions and the Bobby "US Blues"-type pop song versions - night and day. 4/17/71 (which I just realized is missing form my computer for some reason - damn) is amazing, and some of the Europe '72 versions are hard to beat, especially by one of the shorter '77 Bobby versions that basically have one brief solo and out. But I agree DP25 is a good version. I also recall being impressed with the 5/28/77 "To Terrapin" version, and kudos to 9/18/87 (mash-up w/ La Bamba), and 10/29/77 Dekalb - kind of smooth glide Good Lovin' (unlike the bombast of most) on the heels of the slinkiest Bertha ever.
Egypt is Egypt
Personally, I love the Egypt shows.
Also, imagine _being there_.
Eg78 is not E72, yes. but it is a tasty little run of shows, imnsho.
get all the E72 shows you can, then think about Eg78.
shirdeep,,,is that a reference to 4/7/85?
that is an 85 winner.
as is the first set of the following night.
Re: Tree Falling on Someone Elses House
That is exactly what happened to me.. it wasn't my tree that fell, but the neighbors.
Typically.. it's an act of God and the owner of the house (or car) goes through their insurance company. Unless you can prove negligence.. which would almost require notifying the neighbor in advance of the tree falling that it is dead and needs to get taken care of or something equiv.
Sounds like a good day for a nice Weather Report Suite. Darkness falls and seasons change.....
Besides the last one I listened to.. my second favorite WRS is the one on the bonus disc from the Beyond Description Box Set (10/17/74).
Tree Fall...
Snow day here too up in Boston - it's heavy stuff, the guy across the street from us has half of his beautiful maple tree laying in his yard, the other in his driveway. We have a tree leaning over onto our pergola which I will go and save momentarily by shaking off the snow. Weather Report Suite indeed...
Hope those out there in the realm don't have too much damage although it sounds like trees are the culprits today.
Phil and Bobby are snowed in then it seems! Hope they can still fly-in any special guests for this evening....hmmmmm.
Oh and as for the awesome 3-peat solo in Help on the Way ...i absolutely love that. Just keep going man, keep going...
Be well today All!
Sixtus
Egypt/Highgate
Too be clear, I'm not saying the Egypt shows were horrible, just unremarkable and chosen more for the novelty/multi-track/year aspects of it than for the music itself. BEING at Egypt would have been amazing just for the experience. Just like being at Highgate '94 for the whole multi-night, multi-friend road trip/camping/outdoor experience was amazing even though the show itself was not.
re: Wissinoming...
right on - this looks pretty interesting:
http://jerrygarcia.com/before-the-dead-a-new-collection-exploring-garci…
Primordial Jerry...
Sixtus
wish on a morning deadhead - Jerry B4 Dead
This looks great guy, if you (or anyone else) sees anymore info on this release send heads up to all. My quick circuit of google only found talk of the release, not the where or when. I would assume there be an announcement for the Jerry trust/family site that I get my GarciaLive stuff from, but if not....
update - of course as soon as I post the Sixtus man come thru! Pre Ordering right now. Good price on the cd's. The one cd is a repeat of the Hart Valley Drifters cd they put out last year, but I'll still bite. I'd maybe buy the LP's to put up, but I know as soon as I order it this site will announce the box set for MAY also, that will cost 500 bucks. Sometimes hard to hide these things from "she who must be obeyed".
Over Time
Egypt has grown on me over time. I find reasons to justify playing "Rocking the Cradle" occasionally, despite the absence of any real rocking (aside from "Miracle", "Deal", and "Truckin'", but even then). It's usually on in the background while I'm working under a deadline. Nothing I plug into for those musical "Ah-ha!" moments. Great sound quality though.
Jerry Before The Dead.....
....lo and behold, look what hit my YouTube alerts a few minutes agohttps://youtu.be/qWD_GiCFNy0
love egypt 78
love tha winterland shows that followed
from egypt with love road trips
favorite
10 20 78
https://archive.org/details/gd78-10-20.sbd.lai.4159.sbeok.shnfEgypt Before the Dead and RSD
Before the Dead and the RSD releases look awesome, I haven't bought much vinyl in the past few years (Bob Dylan's Triplicate being the most recent). But I may have to try to pick one of these up, I'm forsure going for the Before the Dead cd release.
On the Topic of Egypt, I would say that the official release is worth getting for the 2nd disc and dvd. I would also recommend getting the bonus disc if you can find it for under $40 or so. The Egypt shows may not be as good as one might expect considering the location/year/event, but they are all unique, sound good and have a certain warm energy/vibe to them. The first night of Egypt wasn't included on the official release but might actually be my favorite of the 3 shows, highlights being the Ollin Arrageed>NFA, Sugaree (somewhat ragged but has a good energy/feel to it), Scarlet>Fire, and the Truckin>Other1>Drums>Space>Black peter segment.
Here's a good audio source for that show:
https://archive.org/details/gd1978-09-14.fob.sonyecm280.porray.motb-010…
Egypt with love
It must have been amazing to actually see the Dead in Egypt. Maybe some of those shows that underline the massive difference between seeing a show, at the time, in the flesh, and listening to the same show decades later at home.
I also rate the Winterland shows after Egypt very highly indeed. I haven't listened to them for years-apart from that Road Trips compilation-but I always used to hope that one day they would be released as a box set. Its slightly gone off my radar now...and we have had quite a lot from 1978 recently...but maybe one day these shows would make a nice box. Summer 1973, Ark 1969 first, though.
Cover Art
I have it good authority that bearded skeletons are out for now.. to be replaced by skeletons with tasteful, Steelie tattoos.
I did like the color theme on the last DaP.. Perhaps the beard is just a part of the same part of the color spectrum hallucination..
New Jerry Release
https://www.garciafamilyprovisions.com/dept/before-the-dead
Not sure if this was posted yet but Im sure some of you would be interested.
beardgate
Yes, thumbs down on the bearded skeletons. Didn't it only become a thing recently with the Dave's picks? Lots of skeletons in the original Grateful Dead art (65-95), but none with thick full brown/black beards. Wispy gray hair or flowers are fine with me.
p.s. Ventura Skull is roses festival 2018 is on for next month :)
https://www.skullandroses.com
Re: Cover Art
Personally, I'm hoping for hairless dancing bears and terrapins with mustaches. But that's just me being optimistic.
Cover Art
I always think that it would be cool if they could mimic the old tape covers that people use to sell out of construction paper at the shows?? They could hand print the songs to make it look how we use to label tapes. Anyone else have these on their old tapes? Not forever maybe for a year..
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