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    Dave's Picks Vol. 50: Palladium, New York City, NY 5/3/77

    Reviewer: WolfmansBrother - favoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - February 11, 2008 - Online Review

    Subject: setting me on fire

    left the orchestra section during ship of fools and arrived in the loge for the basso profundo MNS - it's the best of the tour so far, i think, and the balcony is shakin' to its raging outro leading. i sit to take a short break, too.

    yet another night of the first set seeming to spill over. first half of this second set is well-played, indeed, but the sugaree is the INSANE highlight, and keith and jerry are battling it out. one of the strongest estimateds of tour and i, for one, am happy for the FOTD break. the second half belongs to jerry - eyes is short but stellar and bridges to yet another rip-your-heart-out wharf rat, and NFA showcases some down in the weeds jamming. we're stomping and clapping and grinning our faces off, and then joint is jumping for sure as they close it down. another fine UJB encore sends me out the door, so very deeply in love with this band and its music. is there anything better than being a deadhead?

    Is there anything better than being a Dead Head when one of your favorite shows is officially released in its entirety? We'll double down on your sentiments WolfmansBrother, with DAVE'S PICK VOLUME 50: PALLADIUM, NEW YORK CITY, NY 5/3/77, and we'll bring the fire extinguisher to cool you off after you listen to Betty Cantor-Jackson's complete recording. Don't want the party to end? We'll stoke those embers with a few hot tracks from the first set of  5/4/77. Dave's Picks Subscribers score the monstrous second set from 5/4/77 featuring "Scarlet>Fire,"  "Terrapin," 'Playing In The Band," "Comes A Time," and more. Woowee!

    Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, this release has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. 

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  • Oroborous
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    Cheers to Phil and Bear! 🍺🌿🍄🍺🌿🍺🍄🍺😁

    EDIT: great book about Anchor, The Anchor Brewing Story
    Dbl Edit: great video Jimbo, and yes, “Beer guys ARE real” lol
    Think that was TOO from 2/14/68…

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    Thanks!

    Lost a dosin posts to the former HN regime. Still trying to figure how much stuff and which types of posts get thru.

    The thought of 3-D audio is impressive. My old sytem can still send sound behind my ears, but that has to do, I think, with audio mastering and the impressive new software that is being used. Even my 10 year hdtv's speakers can occasionally throw off an impressive sound stage. It will make me rewind just to hear it again.

    Again, All i can say is Thank You Bear!!! You truly started the wheels moving to get us where we are today.

    Cheers!!!

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    One of the first good beers I had also. There's a good documentary with footage of Fritz Maytag describing how he came to own and operate the brewery and the traditions he inherited as a result.

    If you go back 45 years almost everything in the US was either bland or tasted, well.. bad. Wonder bread, twinkies, percolated coffee and coffee in general, beer, meat and potatoes were the standard food with just salt and pepper.

    Then, the foodie and drinkie revolution began, and we could suddenly taste in technicolor. I always counted Anchor Steam as the first micro brewery and maybe they were, or more likely they were one of the last small original breweries that were not put out of business, consolidated or bought out as the corporate giants took over everything. By 1975 everything was giant, more or less the same and for certain bland and tasteless. Schlitz, Old German, Iron City, PBR of course Bud and so many more were more or less mirror images of each other and filled the shelves. Does anyone remember the Schiltz Malt Liquor Bull (or malt liquor in general). The flavorless IPA's of the 70's.

    And then there was American coffee.. yukky.

    All this began to change about the same time the Grateful Dead started doing those college tours. Coincidence? I am beginning to think it all started after Phil got back from Europe and Heinekens started appearing in bars and on the shelves. If that's the case, Thanks Phil!

    Edit: I found that piece of the documentary mentioned above. Youtube dot com frontslash watch?v=0zc4p9Uwa_s

    It's worth the ten minutes it takes to watch it. If you listen carefully halfway through you might be able to hear some Phil bombs in the background or maybe it's that quart of Liberty Ale I found buried in the back of the fridge talking. Perhaps it was really Phil that brought on the craft brewing revolution.. it started in San Francisco, Phil must have been involved.

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    Woohoo indeed!

    Only hope they can break through the stranglehold of the distribution douchebags and we can get some here…no offense, but I think we have enough hazy sour farmhouse milk dbl IPA with apricot, real pine needles and grapefruit. How bout just some good ole fashion Ales, Porters, and Stouts por favor!

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    Excited to hear about Anchor, they were my first "good" beer. Graduated to Killian's Red, then eventually Sam's (that was living when you had cash to buy a bottle of that). I moved to Sea in '97 and couldn't believe the town had over 10, TEN breweries! Now, one on every block (right next to the SixBucks). Almost all of them are good too, but I'd still drink an anchor any day.

    Holy sh!t I didn't get hey now'ed? Have tried to post in a while

  • billy the kiddd
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    I knew you would be happy to hear that news. Good news all around , people get jobs and people get beer.

  • Oroborous
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    Yeah BTK, I was flooded with messages from friends and family about the return of Anchor!
    (Pretty bad when relatives know yer a beer junkie lol)
    Those are my two favorites of theirs also…well, actually their Porter has always been an all time fav, yum…
    Article mentioned hoping to do Xmass Ale this year!🤞🤞🤞

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    6/12 - TOO - o.k. sound you say, Doc.. but is it "Box-set" o.k. ? 6/13 - I think the (brutal sounding) audience tape of "Lovelight" cuts after some 24 min. - there could be moore there..

  • uncle_tripel
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    Geary's Ale, wow now there's a flashback!
    Bottles of Geary's with steamed lobstah on picnic tables in Bar Harbor July 1990, completely wacked next day when we heard from a local deadhead of Brent's passing. I've got the original Geary's t-shirt framed and hanging on the wall next to a framed Workingman's Dead Album cover. Such a notion to immortalize those things that make one smile.
    Thnx DMCVT!

  • dmcvt
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    Hops Now. No Hey. On the recent trip to downeast Maine, we drove up to Campobello Island, to find its economy devastated by Covid border closing. Been before, great spot, FDRs summer home a national park, maybe he reburied the treasure there after his excavation at Oak Island. The obligatory stop at the island mart to see what great Canadian beers are only available there, not back in the USA, sadly not much. Don't forget your passport... it was very odd to be questioned by the Canadian border agents about cannabis products and not on return by USA customs. Then stopped at a market near Lubec, found some Geary's Hampshire Special Ale, used to be sold only in Maine, previously seasonal. Excellent plus.

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Dave's Picks Vol. 50: Palladium, New York City, NY 5/3/77

Reviewer: WolfmansBrother - favoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - February 11, 2008 - Online Review

Subject: setting me on fire

left the orchestra section during ship of fools and arrived in the loge for the basso profundo MNS - it's the best of the tour so far, i think, and the balcony is shakin' to its raging outro leading. i sit to take a short break, too.

yet another night of the first set seeming to spill over. first half of this second set is well-played, indeed, but the sugaree is the INSANE highlight, and keith and jerry are battling it out. one of the strongest estimateds of tour and i, for one, am happy for the FOTD break. the second half belongs to jerry - eyes is short but stellar and bridges to yet another rip-your-heart-out wharf rat, and NFA showcases some down in the weeds jamming. we're stomping and clapping and grinning our faces off, and then joint is jumping for sure as they close it down. another fine UJB encore sends me out the door, so very deeply in love with this band and its music. is there anything better than being a deadhead?

Is there anything better than being a Dead Head when one of your favorite shows is officially released in its entirety? We'll double down on your sentiments WolfmansBrother, with DAVE'S PICK VOLUME 50: PALLADIUM, NEW YORK CITY, NY 5/3/77, and we'll bring the fire extinguisher to cool you off after you listen to Betty Cantor-Jackson's complete recording. Don't want the party to end? We'll stoke those embers with a few hot tracks from the first set of  5/4/77. Dave's Picks Subscribers score the monstrous second set from 5/4/77 featuring "Scarlet>Fire,"  "Terrapin," 'Playing In The Band," "Comes A Time," and more. Woowee!

Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, this release has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. 

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Grantchester Meadows on Ummagumma if my faulty memory is working

....thats two in a row. For anyone keeping track.
Don't screw it up US. History tells me that the country was built on steadfastness against tyranny.

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Epic Morning Dew!!!

DC was home base for shows, for me. The band always seemed to play well to really great, in the nations capital!

Rock on, gang

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I was at my 1st show.
Grateful Dead that is.
The amps were buzzing.
And so was the the band and the audience.
Cheers

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That must have been Red Rocks - respect. I don't know where the heck I was, but it wasn't as good as that.

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Just pulled this one down from shelf.. A top five 1977 IMO, BUT - the sound.. the cds are from 98 and they sound tiny and far off.. Please Dave - let Sir Norman do a new remastering of some old releases - and soon - I am not getting any younger.. BW from Copenhagen

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....new record. Not the time to order vinyl lol.
Edit. Just realized I Pre-ordered Phish's new record that is being released Friday oof!
They are going to be on Jimmy Kimmel this Thursday btw.

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1st show, I got exposed first in Sept '72, but the first GD at Rocks shows were indeed rather epic. We had more Purple Dragon blotter than we should have had, so we ate alot of it. By the time the show started on the 7th, we were quite ready for the coolness of evening and they started with blue or purple lights (I swear!) The opening of the 7th and the second set of the 8th were seared into memory. Kesey was there and, I believe the weirdo noshing on steak by Phil's speakers was Owsley. And, of course, ME!

Glad for all the years we had this band live in our town(s). Or even better, someone else's town...

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Just in case TPTB are listening: it sure would be nice to hear at least some of the Dicks Picks in better audio. Seems like a no brainer: audio restoration tech has advanced quite a bit over the past 30 years, leading me to believe that at least some of the shows could be improved markedly.

C'mon Dave. You know it really has to be done at some point.

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Let me be counted as one who'd be willing to buy were some of these releases see remastering/Plangent treatment. Folks were talking about DP 19 recently, and it's a cracking good show, but I passed on picking up a used copy after listening to it and comparing it to the Kiel shows from 2 weeks later that were released as part of LttR. Similarly DP 20 has never sounded good to me; I much prefer the AUDs from that run. And DP 10... yeah, while I enjoyed that one back in the day, and it was a revelation compared to a fairly muddy audience tape I had, it no longer seems to hold up by today's high standards.

If its instead of something yet unreleased …
Just my two centavos.
Probably in the minority like usual.

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....I'm happy with my Dicks.
However, DP12 does sound incredible on vinyl.
So there's that. Another conundrum.
sigh.
Jinx PF haha. Good shit.
Been eyeballing #33 btw.

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...9th
'nuff said:(

Peace for All!
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I like the Dick's Picks re-release idea. I vote for:

Dick's Picks vol 2

But release the entire show: 10 31 71

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Bob dylan site offering a 27 cd box set of the 1974 tour,,,, comes out in september,,,,,130 bucks

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Dennis - Break out the little lady’s credit card. Dylan & the Band, 1974, a 27 disc set, due in September. (Because the entire tour is being released, it makes me think this is for copyright reasons, like releasing his entire 1966 tour was).
If you still have room left on the card, Pete Townsend has a solo live box set due this month of 14 discs (14 discs!? Psssh. Poser). I’m not a big enough PT Solo fan to invest in this one, but if they release a “best of”, maybe.
Finally, a Dicky Betts archival release coming in about a week, only one disc, but a live gig from 1988 featuring Warren Haynes, and some interesting guests, including Mick Taylor. Affordable, just not sure about the sound quality, as it is not a major label release. I’ll wait on this one.
Throw in a pending GOGD box, and your wife’s card will implode.
Edit - Dennis, I didn’t see your previous note when I posted.

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yeah, I bit. Now I'm worried because the dead are NOW going to annouce the 600 cd set for only 10k and we're only making 5,,,, so rush on down!

Third Man Records are supposed to release a "highlite" 3 lp set of the Dylan,,,, I'm watching,,,, well see :-)

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PROPER!
Hey Dnet, how come y’all don’t do any tour boxes like that instead of measly 3 show boxes etc?
Skip the shite and just give us the shows ; )

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....they have been gone almost as long as they were here.

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After boogieing on stage with the Band, well, the rest is history!
I swear you could feel something was going to happen…

So, what, a week, maybe two until the next installment of “greatest pick evvver” vs “What the hell was he thinking” lol What will it be?
I’m thinking maybe he finally goes Vince or Bruce era, followed by something old and attention getting to plumb subs for next year?

And the box? Maybe it’s a fall release?
What with them working on new site bugs etc, and other releases in motion etc, they have enough troubles and are gonna wait a bit?
That would add gas to the 10/74 50th box rumors fire 🔥

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right, DaP51 announced by end of this week, VincebusBruciola era. We drove down from central Maine January 14th fifty years ago to catch Dylan and The Band at the old Boston Garden, what an armpit venue it was. Brought a camera, B&W 35mm shot with a telephoto. Lots of repeats on those 27 discs, would settle for a best of 3CD package.

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36 years ago I was up at the Frost Ampitheatre to see a really cool show with the Jerry Garcia acoustic band, Hot Tuna was also on the bill. Fun times!

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…Dicks Picks #33 Vinyl Boxset is Primo IMHO & a must have if you collect Grateful Dead vinyl releases. The audio quality is excellent & really an upgrade from the CD release on my system.
I also agree with’Doc’ , i prefer & believe Dave’s Picks #24 is better than the ‘Veneta performance! I would also love & welcome to have some of the Dick Picks performance releases be rereleased in complete form! A whole lot of primo performances being incomplete form in the dicks picks series! Concerning Boxsets, Im still hoping,want and waiting for a 1979 Boxset release someday soon…have a grateful day everyone!
“Nothing left to do but Smile Smile Smile!”

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According to a press release for the new box, the shows were "captured on a stereo soundboard mix, on both 1/4” tape and cassette. By tour’s end, Asylum Records’ David Geffen had commissioned recordings on multitrack tape, the standard at the time, for eventual release on Before the Flood.

The 1974 Live Recordings offers fans 417 previously-unreleased Bob Dylan live tracks – including 133 recordings newly mixed from 16-track tape, and every single surviving soundboard recording.

In conjunction with The 1974 Live Recordings, Third Man Records has announced the September release of The 1974 Live Recordings – The Missing Songs From Before the Flood, a 3-LP / 1 x 7-inch set culled from the same recordings, featuring hand selected versions of every song Bob Dylan recorded that was not included on the original 1974 live album.

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The Live 1966 recordings are great - even though there is a heck of a lot of repetition. I have never been that keen on Before The Flood though, so I would go for the highlights of this new set, not the whole thing. And then only if there are no recordings of The Band without Dylan included.

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Another reissue is a 20th anniversary 3 cd set Bubblegum XX by Mark Lanegan coming out towards the end of August. This was one of my favourite albums from 2004 so I’ll have to get it. I’ve ordered the Dylan box set as well.

I recommend listening to Pink Floyd's Ummagumma soon

After dropping someone at the airport this morning Careful with that Axe Eugene came on

"AAAAAAAA!!!"

Just like a first cup of coffee

And then Set the Controls for the Heart of the Sun in stop and go traffic

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So Many Roads

Jerry looks so tired. 52 going on 79.

What must have it been like to experience life from his perspective?

RIP, Jerry. You are truly and sincerely missed.

:_(((

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Garcia with me everywhere I go! God Bless the grateful Dead! Peace! ;-)

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I'm not sayin reissue a bunch of upgraded Dicks INSTEAD of more new shows. I'm sayin do BOTH the current archival reissue program AND upgrade some Dicks. All I want is everything. Is that too much to ask?

I'm-a have to do some thinking on this new Dylan box. Always dangerous! For whatever reason, I never listened to Before the Flood very much. The Rolling Thunder tour seemed so much more inspired, if also more ragged. Anybody got THAT box set (ie The Rolling Thunder Review 1975 Recordings)? If so I'd be curious to hear your thoughts. Almost bought that one about eleventy seven times.

Listening right now to the Des Moines shows from the spring '73 box and it is fine fine fine.

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Very strange timing, considering the Dylan & the Band Boxset was just announced today, but it was also announced today that Mary Martin just passed away, at 85. Who?
Mary was a Toronto gal that saw the Band playing around town in their Hawks days, and befriended the guys. She later went on to work for Albert Grossman in New York (Dylan’s manager), and it was her that introduced Dylan to the Band, felt they would work well together.
The rest is history.
She worked with other artists like Peter, Paul & Mary, Van Morrison, and Leonard Cohen, but later worked her way to Nashville in A & R, and became instrumental in the careers of people like Emmylou Harris, Rodney Crowell, Vince Gill, and Keith Urban.
RIP Mary

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....feeling better already.
If for nothing else, the first shows Phil approached the mic since the Keith & Donna daze.
Cold Rain & Snow.
Lesh Philling. Bass Grate!
"Let Phil sing!" sprouted from the ground ever since. You gotta let it grow.
Talk of New Mexico reminds me of strider, who used to post here quite often.
Positive thoughts Vguy.
I don't believe in coincidences That Mike, but, yeah. Kinda weird.

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If 27 cds with (mostly) the same set-list is too much - I recordmend the wonderful "Another Self Portrait" (4 cd) box. It is sold out and a little expensive, but it has the Dylan/Band show from "Isle of Wight 1969".. great stuff..

Crow - that's one of the best Dylan live box sets, by my reckoning. Light years away from the stadium rock featured on Before The Flood, it feels ragged and inspired. It also features a great dvd. Look out for Mick Ronson playing the riff from Jean Genie as rhythm for A Hard Rain.

I also like that 4cd Another Self Portrait. One of the few albums I bought as a download instead of a physical object. Bit of a mistake, perhaps, but better than nothing.

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VGuy - I don’t believe in coincidence, either, but one last one on the Band.
You mentioned Strider in reference to New Mexico. He told me he was a New Mexico native, and that he was a big Band fan, and in 1974 he hitchhiked through Canada, and one of the jobs he did for traveling money was picking tobacco in Simcoe, Ontario, a small farming community that Rick Danko was raised in and around.
Too weird.

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Daverock I agree that the 1974 tour lacks the subtlety and intimacy of the Rolling Thunder tour but I still like it a lot. The box will make a nice 65th birthday present for me from my wife, save her having to think too hard. (A decent single malt would be nice too but that'll probably be from my son, he understands drink better and isn't shy about throwing a bit of money at it 🙂). I'm hoping that in some shows the vocals are a little less forced. Why do bands feel that they have to shout in front of a big crowd? Don't they understand it's amplified?

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Thanks for the recommendation, Daverock! I've noticed, over the years, that our tastes seem really similar, so if you're digging the Rolling Thunder box, I'm sure I will, too. Ordered it this morning, in fact.

Which means I will pass on the 1974 tour thing. For now, anyway. To me, Before the Flood always seemed to me like evidence that Dylan wasn't comfortable trying to be the arena rock star some people wanted him to be, and I doubt if hearing 27 CDs worth of that tour would change my mind. Rolling Thunder by contrast seems like a return to his contrarian instincts. There's real spontaneity and joy in the performances I've heard, and I'm eager to hear more. I'd almost say it was the last time Dylan was really Dylan. There's been lots of great music since then, but that was maybe the last time his performances felt like a countercultural happening. At least for me.

Then again there are certain artists I've learned never to dismiss. Like Miles Davis, Dylan has put out records that I despised at the time, yet years later came around to appreciate. So who knows? Maybe someday I'll "get" the 1974 tour. But I'll be immersed in Rolling Thunder for next week or so, I think. Thanks again.

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I've got most of em. The rolling thunder box has one disc of rehearsals (Disc 1) that is really great. Some of the other stuff can get a little repetitive, but 14 discs for $75 seems like a no brainer if you're a fan.

Also highly recommend Another Self Portrait, Bootleg Series # 10. Awesome versions of a great period, including lots of New Morning stuff. This one is really really good.

And one more shameless plug for #13, Trouble No More. One of the weaker periods for Dylan albums, but this box strips out all the cheesy 80s production and smacks you with a fantastic live band, and great arrangements of Slow Train, Gotta Serve Somebody, precious Angel, Covenant Woman, Watered Down Love, Caribbean Wind, I Believe In You, and a version of Pressing On that is alone worth the cost of the box. I cant recommend this one enough.

I was hoping the Springtime In NY stuff would be a continuation of Trouble No More, and while its got its high points, its not quite the gem that is TNM.

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Driving

Car in front of me has license plate holder with dealer name/location

Weir Canyon

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Turns out that is in Anaheim CA

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