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    Dave's Picks Vol. 50: Palladium, New York City, NY 5/3/77

    Reviewer: WolfmansBrother - favoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - February 11, 2008 - Online Review

    Subject: setting me on fire

    left the orchestra section during ship of fools and arrived in the loge for the basso profundo MNS - it's the best of the tour so far, i think, and the balcony is shakin' to its raging outro leading. i sit to take a short break, too.

    yet another night of the first set seeming to spill over. first half of this second set is well-played, indeed, but the sugaree is the INSANE highlight, and keith and jerry are battling it out. one of the strongest estimateds of tour and i, for one, am happy for the FOTD break. the second half belongs to jerry - eyes is short but stellar and bridges to yet another rip-your-heart-out wharf rat, and NFA showcases some down in the weeds jamming. we're stomping and clapping and grinning our faces off, and then joint is jumping for sure as they close it down. another fine UJB encore sends me out the door, so very deeply in love with this band and its music. is there anything better than being a deadhead?

    Is there anything better than being a Dead Head when one of your favorite shows is officially released in its entirety? We'll double down on your sentiments WolfmansBrother, with DAVE'S PICK VOLUME 50: PALLADIUM, NEW YORK CITY, NY 5/3/77, and we'll bring the fire extinguisher to cool you off after you listen to Betty Cantor-Jackson's complete recording. Don't want the party to end? We'll stoke those embers with a few hot tracks from the first set of  5/4/77. Dave's Picks Subscribers score the monstrous second set from 5/4/77 featuring "Scarlet>Fire,"  "Terrapin," 'Playing In The Band," "Comes A Time," and more. Woowee!

    Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, this release has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. 

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  • Gary Farseer
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    That would be awesome news. I could never understand how you take an open arena (plus other areas) and make it work as open meeting space. Last renderings I saw showed they weren't even going to put a drop ceiling to help with HVAC issues. Utility bills would make it a no go. I think when they ran the numbers, revenue generation versus expenses; it became obvious.

    We talked about this many years back and it may be separate issues, but they did find a mummified corpse in the walls, maybe in 2022. Maybe at first their was a rumor of a corpse in there but could never find an official page until i found that kaiser news on a search. About 10 days ago. whatta coiwikidink

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    Do you have what it takes for THIS psychedelia?

    Here's my challenge

    Have some refreshments
    Listen to Boris CD Absolutego on earphones at a park at a robust volume
    You must listen ALL THE WAY THROUGH

    It's on that toob

    There and back again

  • proudfoot
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    She played at Cornell?

    Another groovy GD connection

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    I saw the Dead email land, I thought this is finally it! The Box announcement for Summer 2024! Alas, it is just this spin and win gimmick. Come on Dave! Folks are waiting patiently here.
    PF - Cheers!
    PS - Seattle Kraken hired a female assistant coach, first time in the history of the NHL. Played her hockey at Cornell. The times they are a changing’.

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    News about the Kaiser - google kaiser convention center oakland and open the story from "oaklandside". Not going to be office space after all. Maybe hope it will open as a venue.

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    Jeff: thanks for finding that previous post about 5/7/89. I had forgotten I wrote that. Unfortunately with all the official releases and other musical things, I haven't revisited that show in years. I just know when my freaky friend, who went, gave me the tapes I would crank all that psychedelic stuff in the car. Needless to say, with windows down, it drew attention! Hell Yeah for psychedelia!

    Ticket Master - and having online breaches. I have tried to limit that. I really don't download apps to phone, and don't buy on phone, check bank on phone. I do things the best way for me, I have one computer I do all transactions on and check banks electronically. Then I have a couple of other computers, this one I am typing on and then a laptop I have hooked to television to play online music stuff on - utoob, livephish, nugs.

    Tower Records - only went to one Tower Records. The city of angels location on sunset blvd. if I remember correctly. That was June 1987. I have/had a demo tape of some of my friends original music. Hard to heavy metal, for back then. I had a friend (deceased) that I write about every so often. He went to GIT (Guitar Institute of Technology) from 1984 thru 1986. When he moved home he braught back a guy named Gene Baker from California to put a band together. Gene spent about a year here before moving back to LA basin area. He started when he lived here making custom guitars. He has a successful business now. Jimmy Herring plays his guitars. If memory serves, Jimmy Herring was at GIT about the same time which is how they met, along with my deceased friend. Gene's custom guitars shop can be found by searching Gene Baker guitars California. Or it is all one word b 3 guitars.com(mercial) Another member of that class at GIT was Michael J Fox, who was preparing for Back to the Future.

    So that is enough for now. Have to read back again stufff!
    Later!

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    I've been listening to some acoustic Jorma Kaukonen concerts lately to soothe my soul (many to be found on that amzprime place). Acoustic Dead works very well also. With some Joe Pass shows from the Great American Music Hall (Wolfgangs Vault) in between. It would be great to see more acoustic Dead released soon. And maybe again in some new acoustic combos once they're done at the Sphere too, with lots of guests.

    As for the world, those corrupt folks may be attempting to end democracy right out in the open, but at least we are aware of their intentions (rather than fighting some secret agenda). It's like when Batman is tied to the train tracks and the Joker foolishly reveals his entire plan. Let them keep saying the quiet part out loud (even if we can't listen to it anymore). I am worried, but apathy doesnt seem likely this time around, given the stakes. One can hope.

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    Ignore the subject line; it was just for eyeballs - but this one's for Daverock and anyone else who might be spending tomorrow voting rather than grilling (or maybe both?) -- Sooo, are we really going to see the Conservatives devastated? And anything you want to share about this Starmer chap? Bit of a hit piece on Starmer (penned by Oliver Eagleton) appeared today in the NY Times. My impression had been that in recent years Labour has been held back bc of Corbyn, but I'm seeing other news articles claiming that Starmer is quite unpopular too...?

    rhetorical question: does the "West" have any politicians that anyone truly likes and trusts? xD

    And just to keep this semi on-target for this thread: my word, I really do enjoy that Eyes of the World->Jam-> Wharf Rat from Dave's 50. I hardly listen to Vol 41 (5/26/77) but this release has been sticky for me.

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    The VOTE shirt.

    The VOTE shirt.

    The VOTE shirt.

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    Call for desperate measures!
    Perhaps our only hope…
    Bring back AL!
    That’s right, I said it.
    His “offense” was mere child’s play compared to the criminal rapist!
    Yeah, WE WANT AL, WE WANT AL!
    Make America grateful again, literally lol
    Hell, the DH vote alone might put him over the top!

    Edit: dedicated to our great senator from Nevada.

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Dave's Picks Vol. 50: Palladium, New York City, NY 5/3/77

Reviewer: WolfmansBrother - favoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - February 11, 2008 - Online Review

Subject: setting me on fire

left the orchestra section during ship of fools and arrived in the loge for the basso profundo MNS - it's the best of the tour so far, i think, and the balcony is shakin' to its raging outro leading. i sit to take a short break, too.

yet another night of the first set seeming to spill over. first half of this second set is well-played, indeed, but the sugaree is the INSANE highlight, and keith and jerry are battling it out. one of the strongest estimateds of tour and i, for one, am happy for the FOTD break. the second half belongs to jerry - eyes is short but stellar and bridges to yet another rip-your-heart-out wharf rat, and NFA showcases some down in the weeds jamming. we're stomping and clapping and grinning our faces off, and then joint is jumping for sure as they close it down. another fine UJB encore sends me out the door, so very deeply in love with this band and its music. is there anything better than being a deadhead?

Is there anything better than being a Dead Head when one of your favorite shows is officially released in its entirety? We'll double down on your sentiments WolfmansBrother, with DAVE'S PICK VOLUME 50: PALLADIUM, NEW YORK CITY, NY 5/3/77, and we'll bring the fire extinguisher to cool you off after you listen to Betty Cantor-Jackson's complete recording. Don't want the party to end? We'll stoke those embers with a few hot tracks from the first set of  5/4/77. Dave's Picks Subscribers score the monstrous second set from 5/4/77 featuring "Scarlet>Fire,"  "Terrapin," 'Playing In The Band," "Comes A Time," and more. Woowee!

Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, this release has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. 

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Grantchester Meadows on Ummagumma if my faulty memory is working

....thats two in a row. For anyone keeping track.
Don't screw it up US. History tells me that the country was built on steadfastness against tyranny.

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Epic Morning Dew!!!

DC was home base for shows, for me. The band always seemed to play well to really great, in the nations capital!

Rock on, gang

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I was at my 1st show.
Grateful Dead that is.
The amps were buzzing.
And so was the the band and the audience.
Cheers

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That must have been Red Rocks - respect. I don't know where the heck I was, but it wasn't as good as that.

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Just pulled this one down from shelf.. A top five 1977 IMO, BUT - the sound.. the cds are from 98 and they sound tiny and far off.. Please Dave - let Sir Norman do a new remastering of some old releases - and soon - I am not getting any younger.. BW from Copenhagen

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....new record. Not the time to order vinyl lol.
Edit. Just realized I Pre-ordered Phish's new record that is being released Friday oof!
They are going to be on Jimmy Kimmel this Thursday btw.

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1st show, I got exposed first in Sept '72, but the first GD at Rocks shows were indeed rather epic. We had more Purple Dragon blotter than we should have had, so we ate alot of it. By the time the show started on the 7th, we were quite ready for the coolness of evening and they started with blue or purple lights (I swear!) The opening of the 7th and the second set of the 8th were seared into memory. Kesey was there and, I believe the weirdo noshing on steak by Phil's speakers was Owsley. And, of course, ME!

Glad for all the years we had this band live in our town(s). Or even better, someone else's town...

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Just in case TPTB are listening: it sure would be nice to hear at least some of the Dicks Picks in better audio. Seems like a no brainer: audio restoration tech has advanced quite a bit over the past 30 years, leading me to believe that at least some of the shows could be improved markedly.

C'mon Dave. You know it really has to be done at some point.

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Let me be counted as one who'd be willing to buy were some of these releases see remastering/Plangent treatment. Folks were talking about DP 19 recently, and it's a cracking good show, but I passed on picking up a used copy after listening to it and comparing it to the Kiel shows from 2 weeks later that were released as part of LttR. Similarly DP 20 has never sounded good to me; I much prefer the AUDs from that run. And DP 10... yeah, while I enjoyed that one back in the day, and it was a revelation compared to a fairly muddy audience tape I had, it no longer seems to hold up by today's high standards.

If its instead of something yet unreleased …
Just my two centavos.
Probably in the minority like usual.

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....I'm happy with my Dicks.
However, DP12 does sound incredible on vinyl.
So there's that. Another conundrum.
sigh.
Jinx PF haha. Good shit.
Been eyeballing #33 btw.

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...9th
'nuff said:(

Peace for All!
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I like the Dick's Picks re-release idea. I vote for:

Dick's Picks vol 2

But release the entire show: 10 31 71

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Bob dylan site offering a 27 cd box set of the 1974 tour,,,, comes out in september,,,,,130 bucks

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Dennis - Break out the little lady’s credit card. Dylan & the Band, 1974, a 27 disc set, due in September. (Because the entire tour is being released, it makes me think this is for copyright reasons, like releasing his entire 1966 tour was).
If you still have room left on the card, Pete Townsend has a solo live box set due this month of 14 discs (14 discs!? Psssh. Poser). I’m not a big enough PT Solo fan to invest in this one, but if they release a “best of”, maybe.
Finally, a Dicky Betts archival release coming in about a week, only one disc, but a live gig from 1988 featuring Warren Haynes, and some interesting guests, including Mick Taylor. Affordable, just not sure about the sound quality, as it is not a major label release. I’ll wait on this one.
Throw in a pending GOGD box, and your wife’s card will implode.
Edit - Dennis, I didn’t see your previous note when I posted.

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yeah, I bit. Now I'm worried because the dead are NOW going to annouce the 600 cd set for only 10k and we're only making 5,,,, so rush on down!

Third Man Records are supposed to release a "highlite" 3 lp set of the Dylan,,,, I'm watching,,,, well see :-)

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PROPER!
Hey Dnet, how come y’all don’t do any tour boxes like that instead of measly 3 show boxes etc?
Skip the shite and just give us the shows ; )

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....they have been gone almost as long as they were here.

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After boogieing on stage with the Band, well, the rest is history!
I swear you could feel something was going to happen…

So, what, a week, maybe two until the next installment of “greatest pick evvver” vs “What the hell was he thinking” lol What will it be?
I’m thinking maybe he finally goes Vince or Bruce era, followed by something old and attention getting to plumb subs for next year?

And the box? Maybe it’s a fall release?
What with them working on new site bugs etc, and other releases in motion etc, they have enough troubles and are gonna wait a bit?
That would add gas to the 10/74 50th box rumors fire 🔥

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right, DaP51 announced by end of this week, VincebusBruciola era. We drove down from central Maine January 14th fifty years ago to catch Dylan and The Band at the old Boston Garden, what an armpit venue it was. Brought a camera, B&W 35mm shot with a telephoto. Lots of repeats on those 27 discs, would settle for a best of 3CD package.

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36 years ago I was up at the Frost Ampitheatre to see a really cool show with the Jerry Garcia acoustic band, Hot Tuna was also on the bill. Fun times!

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…Dicks Picks #33 Vinyl Boxset is Primo IMHO & a must have if you collect Grateful Dead vinyl releases. The audio quality is excellent & really an upgrade from the CD release on my system.
I also agree with’Doc’ , i prefer & believe Dave’s Picks #24 is better than the ‘Veneta performance! I would also love & welcome to have some of the Dick Picks performance releases be rereleased in complete form! A whole lot of primo performances being incomplete form in the dicks picks series! Concerning Boxsets, Im still hoping,want and waiting for a 1979 Boxset release someday soon…have a grateful day everyone!
“Nothing left to do but Smile Smile Smile!”

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According to a press release for the new box, the shows were "captured on a stereo soundboard mix, on both 1/4” tape and cassette. By tour’s end, Asylum Records’ David Geffen had commissioned recordings on multitrack tape, the standard at the time, for eventual release on Before the Flood.

The 1974 Live Recordings offers fans 417 previously-unreleased Bob Dylan live tracks – including 133 recordings newly mixed from 16-track tape, and every single surviving soundboard recording.

In conjunction with The 1974 Live Recordings, Third Man Records has announced the September release of The 1974 Live Recordings – The Missing Songs From Before the Flood, a 3-LP / 1 x 7-inch set culled from the same recordings, featuring hand selected versions of every song Bob Dylan recorded that was not included on the original 1974 live album.

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The Live 1966 recordings are great - even though there is a heck of a lot of repetition. I have never been that keen on Before The Flood though, so I would go for the highlights of this new set, not the whole thing. And then only if there are no recordings of The Band without Dylan included.

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Another reissue is a 20th anniversary 3 cd set Bubblegum XX by Mark Lanegan coming out towards the end of August. This was one of my favourite albums from 2004 so I’ll have to get it. I’ve ordered the Dylan box set as well.

I recommend listening to Pink Floyd's Ummagumma soon

After dropping someone at the airport this morning Careful with that Axe Eugene came on

"AAAAAAAA!!!"

Just like a first cup of coffee

And then Set the Controls for the Heart of the Sun in stop and go traffic

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So Many Roads

Jerry looks so tired. 52 going on 79.

What must have it been like to experience life from his perspective?

RIP, Jerry. You are truly and sincerely missed.

:_(((

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Garcia with me everywhere I go! God Bless the grateful Dead! Peace! ;-)

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I'm not sayin reissue a bunch of upgraded Dicks INSTEAD of more new shows. I'm sayin do BOTH the current archival reissue program AND upgrade some Dicks. All I want is everything. Is that too much to ask?

I'm-a have to do some thinking on this new Dylan box. Always dangerous! For whatever reason, I never listened to Before the Flood very much. The Rolling Thunder tour seemed so much more inspired, if also more ragged. Anybody got THAT box set (ie The Rolling Thunder Review 1975 Recordings)? If so I'd be curious to hear your thoughts. Almost bought that one about eleventy seven times.

Listening right now to the Des Moines shows from the spring '73 box and it is fine fine fine.

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Very strange timing, considering the Dylan & the Band Boxset was just announced today, but it was also announced today that Mary Martin just passed away, at 85. Who?
Mary was a Toronto gal that saw the Band playing around town in their Hawks days, and befriended the guys. She later went on to work for Albert Grossman in New York (Dylan’s manager), and it was her that introduced Dylan to the Band, felt they would work well together.
The rest is history.
She worked with other artists like Peter, Paul & Mary, Van Morrison, and Leonard Cohen, but later worked her way to Nashville in A & R, and became instrumental in the careers of people like Emmylou Harris, Rodney Crowell, Vince Gill, and Keith Urban.
RIP Mary

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....feeling better already.
If for nothing else, the first shows Phil approached the mic since the Keith & Donna daze.
Cold Rain & Snow.
Lesh Philling. Bass Grate!
"Let Phil sing!" sprouted from the ground ever since. You gotta let it grow.
Talk of New Mexico reminds me of strider, who used to post here quite often.
Positive thoughts Vguy.
I don't believe in coincidences That Mike, but, yeah. Kinda weird.

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If 27 cds with (mostly) the same set-list is too much - I recordmend the wonderful "Another Self Portrait" (4 cd) box. It is sold out and a little expensive, but it has the Dylan/Band show from "Isle of Wight 1969".. great stuff..

Crow - that's one of the best Dylan live box sets, by my reckoning. Light years away from the stadium rock featured on Before The Flood, it feels ragged and inspired. It also features a great dvd. Look out for Mick Ronson playing the riff from Jean Genie as rhythm for A Hard Rain.

I also like that 4cd Another Self Portrait. One of the few albums I bought as a download instead of a physical object. Bit of a mistake, perhaps, but better than nothing.

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VGuy - I don’t believe in coincidence, either, but one last one on the Band.
You mentioned Strider in reference to New Mexico. He told me he was a New Mexico native, and that he was a big Band fan, and in 1974 he hitchhiked through Canada, and one of the jobs he did for traveling money was picking tobacco in Simcoe, Ontario, a small farming community that Rick Danko was raised in and around.
Too weird.

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Daverock I agree that the 1974 tour lacks the subtlety and intimacy of the Rolling Thunder tour but I still like it a lot. The box will make a nice 65th birthday present for me from my wife, save her having to think too hard. (A decent single malt would be nice too but that'll probably be from my son, he understands drink better and isn't shy about throwing a bit of money at it 🙂). I'm hoping that in some shows the vocals are a little less forced. Why do bands feel that they have to shout in front of a big crowd? Don't they understand it's amplified?

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Thanks for the recommendation, Daverock! I've noticed, over the years, that our tastes seem really similar, so if you're digging the Rolling Thunder box, I'm sure I will, too. Ordered it this morning, in fact.

Which means I will pass on the 1974 tour thing. For now, anyway. To me, Before the Flood always seemed to me like evidence that Dylan wasn't comfortable trying to be the arena rock star some people wanted him to be, and I doubt if hearing 27 CDs worth of that tour would change my mind. Rolling Thunder by contrast seems like a return to his contrarian instincts. There's real spontaneity and joy in the performances I've heard, and I'm eager to hear more. I'd almost say it was the last time Dylan was really Dylan. There's been lots of great music since then, but that was maybe the last time his performances felt like a countercultural happening. At least for me.

Then again there are certain artists I've learned never to dismiss. Like Miles Davis, Dylan has put out records that I despised at the time, yet years later came around to appreciate. So who knows? Maybe someday I'll "get" the 1974 tour. But I'll be immersed in Rolling Thunder for next week or so, I think. Thanks again.

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I've got most of em. The rolling thunder box has one disc of rehearsals (Disc 1) that is really great. Some of the other stuff can get a little repetitive, but 14 discs for $75 seems like a no brainer if you're a fan.

Also highly recommend Another Self Portrait, Bootleg Series # 10. Awesome versions of a great period, including lots of New Morning stuff. This one is really really good.

And one more shameless plug for #13, Trouble No More. One of the weaker periods for Dylan albums, but this box strips out all the cheesy 80s production and smacks you with a fantastic live band, and great arrangements of Slow Train, Gotta Serve Somebody, precious Angel, Covenant Woman, Watered Down Love, Caribbean Wind, I Believe In You, and a version of Pressing On that is alone worth the cost of the box. I cant recommend this one enough.

I was hoping the Springtime In NY stuff would be a continuation of Trouble No More, and while its got its high points, its not quite the gem that is TNM.

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Driving

Car in front of me has license plate holder with dealer name/location

Weir Canyon

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Turns out that is in Anaheim CA

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