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    Dave's Picks Vol. 51: Scranton Catholic Youth Center, Scranton, PA (4/13/71)

    Look out Big Boss Man, Pigpen's on the loose! We're shedding our lovelight on the not-to-be-overlooked Spring 1971 tour with DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 51, featuring the complete unreleased show from the SCRANTON CATHOLIC YOUTH CENTER, SCRANTON, PA 4/13/71 AND the 2nd set from the previous night at the Pittsburgh Civic Arena in Pittsburgh, PA on 4/12/71.

    These gems find the original Grateful Dead quintet delivering some of their most inspired, energetic, and tightest performances. There's a dab of WORKINGMAN'S DEAD, a splash of AMERICAN BEAUTY, a great foreshadow into what would soon appear on SKULL & ROSES. And you'll need nearly all those fingers (or those toes) because - count 'em - there's eight classic covers ("Mama Tried," "Hard To Handle," and a rare "I Second That Emotion," to name a few) done as only the Dead could do them with Mr. McKernan and his magical harmonica.

    Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 51: SCRANTON CATHOLIC YOUTH CENTER, SCRANTON, PA 4/13/71 has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering.

    P.S. We had a little extra room on Disc 2, so please enjoy the final five DP48 bonus tracks to complete 10/24/70, St. Louis, MO.

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  • Danehead
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    Road Trips 2025..

    I hope next year will bring the "Road Trips" back - it would be a nice way to highlight some years (93-95..) that might not make it as full show "Daves" - all 3 years have plenty of great playing, but few "all the way through" great shows..

  • uncle_tripel
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    ...975 mile road trip weekend...
    got to check-out my long distance runner son
    compete in a 8K cross-country meet @ SUNY Fredonia

    and while out on the road was thinking about all of these places which we were driving by:
    Stabler Arena, Lehigh Univ
    Catholic Youth Centre, Scranton
    Broome County Veterans Arena, Binghamton
    Lusk Field House, SUNY Cortland
    Onondaga County War Memorial, Syracuse
    Carrier Dome, Syracuse
    Community War Memorial Auditorium, Rochester
    Silver Stadium, Rochester
    Niagara Falls Convention Center
    Shea's Theatre, Buffalo
    War Memorial Auditorium, Buffalo
    Rich Stadium, Orchard Park

    ...all while jammin' along with
    5/9/77
    7/19/74
    4/16/78

    and last 5
    Robbie Robertson "Storyville"
    Mark Knopfler "Ragpicker's Dream"
    Dire Straits "Communique"
    Original Motion Picture Score "Sideways"
    Peter Gabriel "So"

    everyone have a great week
    while anticipating that #52 (a 1983 h>s>frank you say...!)

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    Catholic Youth Centre?

    It's just occurred to me, this seems quite a strange venue for The Dead to have played. Especially in the light of some of their statements about how the place they played impacted on what they played. I wonder if that was the case here, and if so, in what way?

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    Charles in Charge - I've been much the same way with 1983. Just not a go-to. When my hand hovers over the first half of the 1980s, it either backs to 1980-1981 or it veers to 1984-1985. And it's been like this for decades. I know there are lots of evangelists for '82-'83 but somehow I've just struggled to find the magic.

    But Dave's 27 really did help, that's a fine show. I love the first set and I especially love the second half of Set II. So I'm fired up for this pick bc the word on the street has always been that Santa Fe heard some great music. I've never heard a note of either show so this will be all new to me.

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    Thanks Dennis

    Love Joni's archives 2 & 3, hopefully 4 too.

  • Dennis
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    I seldomly go to the store history, I never have luck finding what I'm looking for (or can't even get in), but I did this time and there was 9/11/83.

    Hopefully will sound better than what I have in stock. Copy I have is "thin", clear vocals, bass is in other room somewhere :-).

    Sidenote - Just got Joni Mitchell's archive 4 in. If you hate when the dead break a show up on to multiple disc, well this joni release brought that to a new level. They had "shows" in no order, I had to go to "setlist" to find show order and reconstruct.

    Good news, which I love. Ordered from Amaz, got it day of release, free shipping AND just got a 20 dollar rebate because of price drop! The official sites NEVER seem to do this.

    Also, can there really be any Joni left to put out? :-)

    Don't know how I missed the Nat King Cole in Chicago on blue note cd, I got the vinyl on the shelf, but apparently didn't get the cd's!?! They're coming today!

    Some wild "into's" when you mix Nat and Dead in same playlist! Just had Frim Fran Sause -> Wang Dang Doodle.

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    if so, hooray

    if they include some of 9/10/83, double hooray

    if they make it a two-fer, triple hooray

    if it's a red herring like "Shorelines beckon" or whatever that silliness was, uh, whatever

    GBtGD

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    Could it be an April '77 Show?
    Wouldn't mind.

    There are some shows left, April 22/23/26/27
    (29 partly and 30 cpl. in the Download Series Vol. 1, mp3).

    Or maybe these shows will be saved for another great box.
    Would be fine too.

    Gerhard,
    did your box finally arrive?

    You all have a great weekend,

    Cheers
    G.

  • 1stshow70878
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    Just found my tapes of this as I knew I was familiar with it. No provenance but it's a good one as I recall. Guessing it was from my buddy who has the good stuff. He had his own Dead tribute band and owns a custom Alembic that has "the tone". Thanks Dan M. Set list looks interesting. Dew out of Wang Dang? Can't wait to see how they pulled that off.
    Cheers

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    I agree, I was guessing (wrongly, again) that it would be a 1990 show, maybe 1991 (but not much precedent for it). Admittedly 1983 was never a go-to for me, but since DaP27, then 39 and In and Out of the Garden '83 shows, it has shown me the ignorance of my ways. Super excited for another 1983 show. Just hoping a real surprise for the next DaP...such as a 1969 or earlier or 1990 or later show.

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Dave's Picks Vol. 51: Scranton Catholic Youth Center, Scranton, PA (4/13/71)

Look out Big Boss Man, Pigpen's on the loose! We're shedding our lovelight on the not-to-be-overlooked Spring 1971 tour with DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 51, featuring the complete unreleased show from the SCRANTON CATHOLIC YOUTH CENTER, SCRANTON, PA 4/13/71 AND the 2nd set from the previous night at the Pittsburgh Civic Arena in Pittsburgh, PA on 4/12/71.

These gems find the original Grateful Dead quintet delivering some of their most inspired, energetic, and tightest performances. There's a dab of WORKINGMAN'S DEAD, a splash of AMERICAN BEAUTY, a great foreshadow into what would soon appear on SKULL & ROSES. And you'll need nearly all those fingers (or those toes) because - count 'em - there's eight classic covers ("Mama Tried," "Hard To Handle," and a rare "I Second That Emotion," to name a few) done as only the Dead could do them with Mr. McKernan and his magical harmonica.

Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 51: SCRANTON CATHOLIC YOUTH CENTER, SCRANTON, PA 4/13/71 has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering.

P.S. We had a little extra room on Disc 2, so please enjoy the final five DP48 bonus tracks to complete 10/24/70, St. Louis, MO.

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I was there also at that shoreline show still have the canceled tix from the three dead shows that were suppose to happen then.

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The Lurker...yeah right. I lurk too more than I post. I do my best to make sure 90% of posts are GD related. Although I do enjoy when others post about music I may like but undiscovered.

Simon I was communicating with another lurker type and I told him about you seeing an incredible Pink Floyd show in like 1974? This was almost 9 years ago. Maybe you could post that tidbit again.

Obviously, this post has to do with the other 10%.

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Their once a year LP sale includes the 8-LP DiP 33 release. Was $175, now $140. I'd be seriously looking at that if I had not ordered the Devils Box. You already got this one Dennis?
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I think you may be referring to the Garden Party at the Crystal Palace Bowl in London in 1971. It was a great one-day event featuring Quiver, Mountain (loud!), The Faces and Pink Floyd. I was rather spaced out at the time. A pretty accurate article on the day's antics can be found at:
loudersound dot com/features/pink-floyd-garden-party-1971

Pink Floyd played:
Atom Heart Mother, Careful With That Axe Eugene, Fat Old Sun, Return Of The Son Of Nothing ( prototype Echoes ), Set the Controls, Embryo, Saucerful Of Secrets. Encore : Astromony Domine.

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guess you were right. I remember the part about they lake and the comment a little more precise about the spaced out part.

WOW, didnt realize '71!

Ever found/heard a recording?

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There was a lot of good acid around at the time and I was lysergically enhanced for the duration. When we went for a stroll, my mate and I were under the impression that we were being stalked by a pair of park wardens, one tall thin one and one short fat one. Strangely, they appeared to us to be dressed in Bavarian attire. It was a great day out, despite the vagaries of the English weather. Apparently there is an audience recording of dubious quality but I've never heard it. I recall the live surround sound being very impressive.

Yet more info can be found at:

ukrockfestivals dot com/Garden-party-71.html

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The two keystone cops comment made me bust out laughing. Nothing better than a sunrise laugh.

Gonna be a good day!

Edit: Or as Jim would say, "chortle my coffee."

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Dicks 33,,, yes I have.

Just ordered the CSN&Y fillmore 69 cd (from amazon, free shipping and will get day it comes out, they didn't seem to offer the LP)

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Been having some stereo issues. Part of me wants to upgrade. Cant remember who turned us on to the Amazon (Klipsch) Subwoofer deal last month. But didnt buy, now my 4.8 year old subwoofer may have gone kaput. Will take some time to go thru wiring.

Also have considered buying a self powered speakers, instead of using old Yamahas. Dang, the - JBL 4329P Studio Monitor Powered Loudspeaker. Look awesome. Problem, $4500 for to extremely high powered self contained studio monitors. Reviews are very positive. Just too much power and way too heavy. Read online review, I think it said each one ways 171lbs and produces a SPL of 141db. Wow, who needs that. Maybe some day, if I get my barn built.

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This past year went from a Denon and Polks to a two channel Marantz and a pair of Denali. Wow. Wish I had done that years ago. Where to from there? Seems plenty for a 850 square foot floor plan.

"171lbs and produces a SPL of 141db...." no idea what that means but makes me think of my Black Sabbath aficionado friend that has a subwoofer as heavy as a refrigerator.

Oh yeah, gotta keep it GD related: in the car today was 10/19/72 from Listen to the River. Phil's lines in Jack Straw get me every time!

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....I like adjusting the knobs and switches on the back of it so it's just exactly perfect for what is on the menu at the time.

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For Phishermen, the following free article popped in my news feed on Phish - “ Four Days With Phish, America's Greatest Jam Band for 40 Years and Counting” - originally published in GQ Magazine (!). (Have Phish gone bespoke!?)
Good article, should be available to one and all.

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I have a DVD+R
""data dvd"

that I inherited from my friend Craig.

It has FLACs of
5/10/80
10/31/80
4/19/82
7/1/85

If anyone wants it, speak up here.

Mailing info via PM

I'll even pay the postage

I just want it to have a good home

....R-120SW. Putting it to use now. Listening to Vampire Weekend.
I've been known to phish in the pool of jams.

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That's right $1.00 to see the Jerry Garcia band , with Bill Kreutzman playing drums. The show was at the Concord Pavilion and was a benefit for a local radio station. Queen Ida and her Zydeco Band opened the show. Big Fun! 4 days out from the start of the best run at the Greek Theatre,. Fun times, indeed.

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Think it will be a Vince years one.. my guess; Wembley 10/31/90.. BW from Copenhagen

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Sadly Zoot Money died today as well. A stalwart of British r'n'b - but to me his crowning glory was the short lived Dantalians Chariot. Also featuring future Policeman Andy Summers, they cut one of the all great British psychedelic singles "Madman Running Through The Fields". No compilation of the era is complete without it. And not many are.

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Pig Pen would have been 79 years old today. The Grateful Dead played their best music when Pig Pen was in the band.. .

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Where IS everybody..

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Like my favorite French-Canadian mouse would say, "Savoir-Faire eez everywhere!"

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Fleetwood Mac - Future Games LP
DiP 15 - Englishtown 9-3-77
Steppin' Out w/ the GD - Europe '72
Tom Petty - Full Moon Fever
JGB - Garcia Live Vol. 4, 3-22-78 Veteran's Hall
Cheers

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commentary just dwindles (dwindle...fun word)

I post more now on "what are you listening to"

Savior Faire is everywhere...now there is a phrase I have not heard in a long time

I have been so busy and stretched that I haven't listened to 50 or 51 yet. So I mostly lurk here.

I'll be sure to comment when I get that first listen in.

Argh...

On the bright side, I am starting to be home more and are squaring things away plus, the second to last song I listened to was Jerry singing "On the Bright Side of the Road" So things are looking up.

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Jazz Fans - A new edition in Miles Davis’ Bootleg Series coming early November, “ MILES IN FRANCE 1963 & 64”, featuring his “Second” Great Quintet (ie - post Coltrane). Dennis, this one is for you, available in LP and CD. Oro, if you want to really “get” jazz, Miles Davis is perhaps the apex, so important from the late 40s into the 90s, an innovator along the lines of Dylan or the Dead. I’m partial to his electric period, where he got really out there, but any of his stuff is worth the listen.
Bill Graham was an absolute genius IMHO for some of the bills he put together at his Fillmore (and more) venues, including putting Miles on to open for the Dead, leaving Phil Lesh gap-jawed, and feeling unworthy of following his act. Graham introduced so many interesting acts to the mainstream listener that might never have happened without his vision. I highly recommend the book “Bill Graham Presents” for more on this incredible guy, who did so much to bring us the Dead, among many others.

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Bill Graham brought lots of blues artists to the Fillmore West like Muddy Waters, Howlin Wolf , James Cotton and others . The great Mike Bloomfield told Graham that these were musicians he should be booking.

Ok, I ordered the Boot 8 cd's. Haven't bought the vinyl. 100 bucks for the cd's was enough for now, the 225 for the lp's would have stretched me open to the point of fearing the pool.

They didn't seem "limited", thought I could ask for vinyl at christmas.

I seem to have all the miles boot series, at least in mp3. A quick look and I seem to have several in physical media (cd & LP)

Because of someone else, I'm listening to Nick Cave and wondering if I should get his new album :-)

FYI - I bought miles on amazon,,, they always come on the release day and free shipping!

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Dennis - Smart move on ordering the Miles boot from Amazon, much quicker with free shipping. I did order a t-shirt once from the Miles site, and it was pretty quick delivery, but definitely not free shipping.
A few sites offer bootlegs “on demand”, for lack of a better term. You order a bootleg from the choices they offer, they have it produced, and it is sent by a third party (Nugs dot net) - I have two shows on order for Pearl Jam now like this, and I know the Allman’s site has something similar, choose the show(s) you want of the ones offered, and they produce a disc for you. An interesting way to do it, and something Dead net should consider, although that may make Dave Lemieux redundant.
Has Perry Ferrell got a problem with Dave Navarro, or what!? I’ve seen a lot of shows, but I never saw two musicians start fighting. Kinda sucks for the Boston audience that had a shortened show.

don't know about these guys, but the vid I watched 30 seconds of, it looked like Ferral was spaced out? Big time drugs?

but a wow moment for sure,,,, I bet tom petty felt that way when prince went off on a riff in "while my guitar...."

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Dennis - maybe I'm not understanding - it was unrehearsed and a wild ride but don't think Petty had any issues with Prince and the outro solo.

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My wife's cousins were at that show. They said Bass and Drums were spot on and Dave was good, but Perry was not good. Perry F'd up several songs and did not appreciate the band guiding him. Navarro had words with him during the show and it escalated over the last three songs.

There's a performance with about a dozen guys paying a tribute to George Harrison. They're playing while my guitar gently weeps. Everyone passes around the lead, gets to prince and he takes off. Several times it looked like petty was ready to drop out jamming and get back to song, but prince kept on. Tom was looking a little peeved.

Maybe it was just me. But prince really stole that track!

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Amazing what they're finding in those old archives these days.

A recent review of Nixon's office tapes (you know, the ones that caught him planning Watergate and discussing the illegal bombing Cambodia and whatnot) turned up a reference to pot. Which Tricky Dicky said was "not particularly dangerous." He even seems to consider legalization, but concludes that "it would be the wrong message at this time."

Well, blow me down. Sure wish he would've said so back then, instead of, you know, launching the War on Drugs and sending so many kind and decent people to prison.

And almost equally mind boggling it is to learn of the existence of this new Miles set. Which should be amazing.

That 'Second Great Quintet' with Herbie and Wayne is in some ways the most interesting of all his bands. The "other" quintet with Coltrane is maybe a better place to start, if anybody reading this is new to jazz and just starting to check out Miles. The Miles/Trane group more or less defined mainstream straight ahead jazz and if you're at all open to jazz you're going to love the Cookin/Workin/Steamin/Relaxin records they did.

But the 'second' quintet? Damn. If the Miles/Trane group built the house, the Wayne/Herbie band blew the fucking roof off. This new set of recordings from what I think must've been their first tour together should be amazing. Probably a little more "inside" than the far out stuff you hear on the Plugged Nickel live set, which might be a good thing. It's a must have, for me anyway.

So, thanks for the heads up on that one! Can't wait.

Meanwhile, UPS says that my copy of Jack White's new lp is out for delivery. Can't wait to slap that thing on and crank it up.

Dennis - I’ll bet you will have that damn Nancy Sinatra song roiling around your head the rest of the day now! 🎶🎶 Damn boots!!!
You’re welcome! ;)
Crow - I agree on the Second Quintet vs the Trane Quintet - the Second was far more dynamic, a much more interesting band. All of them went on to have pretty amazing careers on their own, as well.

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Well the song will probably not be rattlin' around, but Nancy in them!

Hope I didn't type here, but listening to Dylan Theme radio, girls names. For Nancy, a song sinatra sung.

Nancy with the laughing face. Written about Nancy when she was born. Written by.... Phil Silvers!

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What makes that band interesting to me is the rhythm section - Herbie Hancock, Ron Carter on bass and Tony Williams on drums. My favourite records by them are ESP and Milestones. A great live one is the First Bootleg - 4cds from 1967. I prefer this to the Plugged Nickel set, which seems a bit cautious by comparison.

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Thanks DaveRock, was about to note Carter and Williams essential contributions to the Second Quintet. Williams was 17 years old when he joined Miles group. What an incredible crucible those five created. Heading off to northern Vermont tonight, concert with Tom Gershwin Quintet. Heard of this performance from a chance conversation with Grant Gordy after his gig with Mr. Sun Tuesday in Massachusetts. Never seen Grant on electric guitar.

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....just got back from five glorious days in Sedona with my wife celebrating our 25th anniversary.
Need. More. Vacations. And a hot tub.
And more Taylor Swift if you know what I mean. Childless Cat Lady ftw.

....I knew I was blessed then.
Good shit Brent.
Jerry just keeping the train chuggin'"
BTW, we took the Verde Canyon Train Trip in AZ during our stay there.
They piped in train songs the whole time. Big RxR Blues leaving and returning from the station.
Freight Train from Not For Kids Only also.....I pointed it out to my wife.
She just shook her head and smiled.

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Ya know, this {#51} was a fine pick, from an interesting show and locale with great extras. I love a Pig era Dead set that qualifies as a "Phil Show" and many of these gigs from 1971 are. Similar to the "Ladies & Gentlemen Philmore" and 'HouseBoat tapes' (Dick's#35) this was indeed a Phil Show. Aside from the sonic anomalies I truly enjoyed this 'bar band era' pick, especially the Pig songs and jams, it just took awhile to give the album a listen. I was pretty busy with stuff. Also nice to have a Dave Pick covering this Spring 1971 era.

Now, as for #52, I have been doing some research and wouldn't mind say 3/27/91? This is one of a few rare Dead shows with the JGB song Reuben and Cherise. Also there's a Bob Dylan cover in both sets, "All Along the Watchtower" which was always played well in the later era and "Maggie's Farm" a 1990s staple. Anyways Dave has probably already got this one on the press so it's all wishlist speculation now!

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I was at that show. A buddy and I drove from MD to NY, and discovered early on I had a headlight out. That damn Honda always had a headlight out, was very nerve wracking. Anyway, we tilted both bulbs downward and turned on the high beams, problem solved. Then, got massively tailed in NJ for like 10 minutes, and we were holding plenty let me tell ya. THEN, I witnessed the only fist fight I ever saw at a show, two van loads of drunk NY wanna be heads going at each other. It was bitterly cold and we got stuck outside the venue because we had taken a cab. Long, strange, day and night...

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First, glad to have this one, appreciation has grown, it being of a particular time and energy, unique. Dave does not remind us like the early on Dicks, its warts and all, there might be some bumps but its going to be better than anything else already out there. That said, the hot vocals on disc one did bother at first, but if I started out listening to it from far away, like another room, it wasn't so tough, move closer in and more appreciate discs 2 and 3 which make the cake. If we didn't comment on this stuff, who knows what else could happen!

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Does Dave go with 52? I'm sticking with a 90's show namely 9/26/91.

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March 27 1991 Nassau

yeah, March winds blew in from the west and temps dropped from mid- 60's to upper 30's in a couple of hours;
car parks next to us, the driver's door opens and a hellacious gust of wind blows the car door out of the drivers hand, smack into my new cheap Isuzu Trooper and leaves a 2 inch dent in my passenger door, lol. light up another!

HIAB so high the crowd's energy and sure we knew cold rain would find it's way into the set tonight,
and such a different feel to tonight's show without the grand / Bruce.

row jimmy row
maggie's (go Vinny go)(Phil take Bruce's verse, cool)
loose lucy

1st notes of Rubin and the looks on our faces.... whhaaatttt????

My buddy and I would greet each other for several years after this show with the simple phrase...
scarlet, fire, estimated, uncle john's with high 5's,
we loved this show, and
if I walked up to Paulie today,
and said those five words,
it would be understood between us (33 yrs later)
...big smiles & high 5's all over again.

so, yeah, I'm with RYXS to release this one!

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