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    Dave's Picks Vol. 51: Scranton Catholic Youth Center, Scranton, PA (4/13/71)

    Look out Big Boss Man, Pigpen's on the loose! We're shedding our lovelight on the not-to-be-overlooked Spring 1971 tour with DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 51, featuring the complete unreleased show from the SCRANTON CATHOLIC YOUTH CENTER, SCRANTON, PA 4/13/71 AND the 2nd set from the previous night at the Pittsburgh Civic Arena in Pittsburgh, PA on 4/12/71.

    These gems find the original Grateful Dead quintet delivering some of their most inspired, energetic, and tightest performances. There's a dab of WORKINGMAN'S DEAD, a splash of AMERICAN BEAUTY, a great foreshadow into what would soon appear on SKULL & ROSES. And you'll need nearly all those fingers (or those toes) because - count 'em - there's eight classic covers ("Mama Tried," "Hard To Handle," and a rare "I Second That Emotion," to name a few) done as only the Dead could do them with Mr. McKernan and his magical harmonica.

    Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 51: SCRANTON CATHOLIC YOUTH CENTER, SCRANTON, PA 4/13/71 has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering.

    P.S. We had a little extra room on Disc 2, so please enjoy the final five DP48 bonus tracks to complete 10/24/70, St. Louis, MO.

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  • cactus68
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    So tired of mediocre Dave's picks . Let's retire this series, remaster, remix and plangent process the entire Dicks's Picks! YEAH!

  • Gary Farseer
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    I have been starting to look back at Seinfeld

    Loved it back then. May hunt down box.

    Never thought about the same thing, sorta, a dog chasing its tail. Hmmm

    I am assuming Phil played that bass during '77 new years run.

    Yes, meant for both.

  • Oroborous
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    Yinyang lol

    See, he’s a teacher, and thus wisdom etc,
    I choose mine more for the comical representation of my life as a dog chasing my own tail…(my original avatar; )

    Yes, lol, asteroids and cosmic syncretization, or cosmic debris, both appearing like the Bizarro Jerry street scene!

  • Gary Farseer
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    Didnt realize we had both on same day. NICE!

    Found the repost. Quite lengthy. Will read after I get grooved up!

    OB as a sign of death and birth or rebirth, depending on you affinity.

    Read that the first time you posted I assume. Cant wait to read again. I even booked mark in my GD folder.

    Thanks so much.

    And both of you keep posting as much as possible. Just extremely amazing to me both on same day.

  • Oroboros
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    Great stuff on Phil's Alembic, and reminded me how the Oroborous (snake or dragon) was a different ancient symbol of infinity.

    Mary reposted my story here, search- JERRY, THE DRAGON, AND THE LONG STRANGE TRIP, AS TOLD BY OROBOROUS

    "It ain't what I don't know that gets me into trouble, it's what I know for sure, that ain't so."

  • Gary Farseer
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    We have Air Supply in one room and Christopher Cross in another room on same night.

    Guess I'll get all cowboyed up and go trolling for the ladies.

    Women go crazy for a sharp dressed man.

  • Gary Farseer
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    The Other One called OB I haven't seen around here in years.

    The reason for that last post was the Osiris-REx/Osiris-Apophos mission there was a NASA deadhead employee that put a live recording of Grateful Dead on that mission. Mind is a little fuzzy, but almost 100% sure it had a Dark Star on it. I started down that rabbit hole looking for that recording. Still havent found it. I will continue to look.

    I just stretched out a little because it has been a little lite recently.

    To 1971!!!

    Trying to Edit for better clarity.

  • Oroborous
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    Mission Control +

    I have a cool book: Immortal Axes That Rocked, that has cool pics and similar info about Phil’s bass, AND!!! Jerry’s Pretzel Guitar!
    Good sheet Mon!

    You say po TA Toe, I say p tah to lol
    Gary, Yer not seeing double, this time lol (JK)
    The original good Oroboros, who is the creator of the ceramic beast and it’s long strange trip, beat me to it by two weeks, so I had seen another spelling some where? Used to think in the Dead Book by C Loves father, Hank Harrison, but now think that’s not correct? Can’t really remember?, and now of course it’s gotten confusing, so like that awesome Seinfeld episode where they all have alternative dimension other selves, like in “Bizarro Jerry”, “Bizarro George” etc, that we’re just like them, only opposite personality wise, hilarious if you’ve never seen it!
    So I’m the Bizarro Oro, the Other, Other One Lol the evil twin lol
    I felt bad when Marye posted his great tale in the community section but with my spelling. I tried to set the record strait back then, but kept getting pummeled mercilessly by the you know who police!
    Thanks again to Marye for posting that awesome tale!
    The stories are my favorite reason to hang here, so we need more good tales!

    So glad now to be able to give credit where credit is due!
    The kind, good, original Oroboros is THAT Oro, and I’m just a second rate loud mouth prankster who eats breaths shits way too much GOGD, but hopefully at least brings smiles and laughs to the people ; )

    Oh, the meteorite is crazy stuff, but reminds me of the episode where Kramer has a dream he’s riding one “like a cowboy Jerry” …. ; )

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    Kinda slow, maybe I'll stretch out a little

    In 2018 we were having discussions about Osiris REx. A NASA satellite launch which had 2 purposes. 1) It was sent to collect a Sample from near earth asteroid Bennu. 2) After flying by earth to drop the sample to earth, which it accomplished on September 21, 2023, it's name was changed to Osiris Apex (Osiris Apophos). It is heading to Apophos which is a large asteroid that is heading to very near earth in 2029. Apophos means God of Destruction. It is the size of the Eiffel Tower and will be visible with the naked eye. Space trackers have pushed out it hitting earth until 2129 or so, 100 hundred years from now. But still a very high level threat.

    Now to continue on this thread considering Grateful Dead and its meaning and Phil Lesh and Egypt. I ran across a great Guitar World report on Phil's "Mission Control" base as part of it follows:

    "Just about any Deadhead is familiar with the Phil Lesh bass known as ‘Mission Control’. What is hazy are many of the details, as this bass guitar seemed to simply disappear over 40 years ago.

    This astounding custom Alembic bass, with serial number 74 00008, was played by Lesh on stage with the Grateful Dead from June 16, 1974 until July 1, 1979, and was hand-built at Alembic by luthier Rick Turner.

    Only the eighth instrument built by Alembic, Turner started it in 1972 and completed it in mid-1974. ‘Osiris’, aka ‘Mission Control’, ‘Osage Orange’ or ‘The Omega’, was built not just for, but as part of, the band’s historic Wall Of Sound. The significance of the Wall Of Sound, another brainchild of Alembic co-founder Owsley ‘Bear’ Stanley III, cannot be overstated.

    This grand audio experiment spawned the modern PA system, and set a standard still unmatched today. However, that is only part of the story of this bass and its builders at Alembic. This instrument and a handful of its contemporaries set the stage for the modern ‘boutique’ instrument.

    Consider the construction of this bass, beyond its exotic inlays and electronics. When this instrument was built, you could count on two hands the number of instruments built this way. It featured laminated neck-thru construction, coupled with sandwiched, exotic tone wood wings known as ‘The Hippie Sandwich’.

    These techniques, pioneered by the builders at Alembic, have paved the way for countless luthiers and instruments that now use these elements as the standard for today’s boutique instrument. Jerry Garcia’s Wolf guitar, built by Luthier Doug Irwin in 1972 to 1973, featured the same type of construction, and was also used with the Wall Of Sound.

    Irwin also came from the Alembic tree of luthiers. Used by Lesh at over 250 Grateful Dead shows in that five-year period, the Mission Control bass became iconic in its own right, with Rolling Stone magazine featuring the instrument in an Alembic article in September 1973. It was also featured in its own scene in The Grateful Dead Movie the following year."

    Later in the article, dated April 1, 2021, it lists the inlays of Phil's Osiris Bass, also called Apophos in another article as follows:
    "The ebony fingerboard is covered in 11 different exotic inlays. For the record, these are:

    Mother-of-pearl lightning bolts striking lapis lazuli An abalone serpent eating its own tail
    A mother-of-pearl crescent moon
    An abalone lizard
    An abalone Darkstar Mother-of-pearl and abalone stars
    An abalone bat
    An abalone infinity symbol
    A mother-of-pearl and abalone Saturn
    Abalone kissing fish, as Lesh is a Pisces
    More mother-of-pearl lightning bolts striking lapis lazuli"

    I bring this up as Oroborous has the picture of Oroborous today as his picture. I know we have 2 Oroborus', hope I have the right one. The other talked about making an Oroborous and putting it on stage and then meeting Jerry the next morning and giving it to him. Now that is a long time ago so memory fuzzy. But look at the neck Phil had of these GD symbols. Also, it matches his guitar strap.

    There is a lot too this. May post more later, but feel I have over extended the welcome for now. Send PM if you want direct web pages. I am sure they will have to be broken up.

    G

    From there down the rabbit hole I found articles by Ryan Slesinger, PhD and Vincent Bridges. Both who document the deeper meanings of Grateful Dead as it relates to the book of the dead. These are long involved article which I am still reading/digesting.

    Apophis not Apophos. Edit

  • Oroboros
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    Got mine, too.

    Shipping notice received.

    Hope others get theirs as well.

    Got a sticker handed to me at my last JRAD show, a quote from Joe Russo "It's kinda amazing when everybody is so fuckin quiet. It allows us to do things. Thanks guys. Silence is cool."

    Agree x 1,000,000,000 with Joe's sentiment (and that expressed by posters here).

    "Teachers open the door, but you must enter by yourself."

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Dave's Picks Vol. 51: Scranton Catholic Youth Center, Scranton, PA (4/13/71)

Look out Big Boss Man, Pigpen's on the loose! We're shedding our lovelight on the not-to-be-overlooked Spring 1971 tour with DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 51, featuring the complete unreleased show from the SCRANTON CATHOLIC YOUTH CENTER, SCRANTON, PA 4/13/71 AND the 2nd set from the previous night at the Pittsburgh Civic Arena in Pittsburgh, PA on 4/12/71.

These gems find the original Grateful Dead quintet delivering some of their most inspired, energetic, and tightest performances. There's a dab of WORKINGMAN'S DEAD, a splash of AMERICAN BEAUTY, a great foreshadow into what would soon appear on SKULL & ROSES. And you'll need nearly all those fingers (or those toes) because - count 'em - there's eight classic covers ("Mama Tried," "Hard To Handle," and a rare "I Second That Emotion," to name a few) done as only the Dead could do them with Mr. McKernan and his magical harmonica.

Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 51: SCRANTON CATHOLIC YOUTH CENTER, SCRANTON, PA 4/13/71 has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering.

P.S. We had a little extra room on Disc 2, so please enjoy the final five DP48 bonus tracks to complete 10/24/70, St. Louis, MO.

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Thanks for the heads up!!!

Give me a sec to wipe the tears from my eyes.

I think Papa is one of the greatest songs ever written and THAT was a hell of a version.

WOW!

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I need this in my mailbox yesterday, I am taking a little trip on the first, I hope it comes before then.

I think this is going to sell out partly because of the cover.

I have to imagine that water filtration is very popular in India! :)

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Hope everyone enjoys the release...Four hours of rockin' Grateful Dead !

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I forgot to give an update on the upgraded shipping for anyone actually interested.

Last year for the HCS box I upgraded the shipping to direct delivery from UPS, (skipping the Post Office) I opted to pay for the whole year, assuming it would cover the Dave's Picks, it does not. So I paid for the year and the Dave's Picks still go to the post office. I guess technically they fall under a different category, which I did not know. To add insult to injury they hit me recently with auto renewal... so yeah, but maybe I'll get the next box a little earlier. This is all a UPS issue and not necessarily a Deadnet issue in case anyone is wondering.

Did anyone else do this?

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The penguin is a reference to the Pittsburgh Penguins, and The Igloo was the nickname of the Civic Arena which is where the Pens played until 2010.

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Why am I suddenly being completely hey now'ed/blocked???? Wanted to respond to questions about The Project, the shows, etc, but TPTB have said "No Doc you pontificate too much too soon!!!"...........

Try to rock on,

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50 years ago today - the Dead opened their 1974 Summer tour with this fine show in Fresno; solid first set, closing with a great "playing". 2 set (one-time ?) "Brown-eyed women" to open, and a "Jam - Eyes - China Doll" trio to end the show.. One of the best-sounding WoS-shows, I know.. BW from Copenhagen to all..

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Hey rockers..........

Here's the Reader' Digest version of what I attempted to post yesterday:
***The 1971 Project, perpetual work in progress, if anybody needs/wants a copy, PM me.
***Anybody needs/wants ANY 1971 shows, feel free to PM me.
***51 = delicious, fun, crunchy, Bakersfield.....

That is all, carry on!!!

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When your work speaks for itself, don't interrupt........

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I don't remember Bob much at all, maybe caught some re-runs in my teens. The Office seemed okay, but same for me, lasted about 5 episodes. Same with Parks & Rec.
The best comedy series I've ever seen was Schitt's Creek, the writing, the acting, all of it top notch.
If you wanna go somewhat old school, there was a one season show in 2000 called Freaks and Geeks, search that one out, spoiler, it ends with the main female character running away to join the 1981 Dead tour.

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For a skeleton, He's got a killer Dew.

Will look for Schitt's Creek. Knew it was on just never checked it out.

Also track down the one season that Burnsey posted.

Sorry sometimes my memory is was too short. I will reread his post and then write it down. Ouch

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Watching the latest seaside chat I was surprised to hear Dave say that the present release (#51) represents something of neglected era that they're going to try to focus on more. And I thought, dude, wtf?

#51 is 1971. Dave's #49 was also 1971. And if my math is correct, this is the 5th DaP out of 51 to come from 1971. And that's not to mention Ladies and Gentlemen, the Grateful Dead, Skull & Roses, Dicks 2 and 35. How is that a neglected era?

But then I realized that #51 and #49 could definitely be considered different eras: one of 'em is the "saloon band" quintet, the other has Keith. Likewise, #47 (from 1979) kind of got lumped with what some people felt was an overabundance of '70s stuff, but it is definitely a different era than any of the other official releases (that I know of) from the '70s. Because it's the beginning of the Brent era.

And then it hit me like a Blinding Flash of Duh: Decades are not eras. Years are not eras. An era may last more than a year, or less. A decade might have two eras, or several.

Anyway, looking forward to this one. The 'saloon band' generally doesn't blow my mind like some other eras, but they're always a rockin good time. And I could use one of those right about now.

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I have just received the shipping mail for Dave's Picks 51 from the Dead.net store. That is sooner than I had imagined possible. Now the wait as the small package makes its way across the world. Hopefully it will only take two weeks to cross the pond to the Netherlands.

Edit: It turns out that the tracking number is for DHL eCommerce which is new to me for packages from Dead.net.

It seems to me that it is a bit misleading, breaking the Dead's shows down in terms of years. As Crow suggests, the first part of 1971 is very different from Fall 1971, with Keith, which sounds much closer to 1972. That's the most marked change in style within one year - but another is 1969. The first half of that year, the culmination of their psychedelic phase, is quite different in feel to the shows in the second half of the year when Working Mans songs and the country covers started to appear.
No Dave's from the first half of 1969 yet - amazing considering how great those shows were.

Crow meant Dave's #48, anyways. Yeah! eras are a trip. I feel the same for 1973 now. Though it's not a personnel line up era rather an "album" era. It's the August recording month that serves as the divider. To me it's the difference of "Weather Report Suite; Let it Grow" and subsequent jammings. Though that is more of an era within an era, the same band line up just different tunes.

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30 years, 4 eras per year equals 120 eras.

Of course goofin, but to me the band was always alive and changing.

That is what makes it so interesting.

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It is awesome that they are working with DHL to get the EU heads their fix quicker.

The good and bad of AI.

More computers, to me, equals less freedoms.

Just know with all things in life, at some point you get too old to keep up with the changes.

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I watched the seaside chat last night and if my memory serves me correctly, Dave was implying that spring ‘71 was under represented, and specifically April ‘71.
I recall him saying that there were several shows from April ‘71 that were considered for release, and that the others will be released too.

He also said that he recently reviewed the artwork for #53, which would imply that the show has been chosen.

He also seemed excited about what is coming later this year. Of course, he’s always excited.

I’ll subscribe to Dave’s 2025 right now if that would qualify me for a second bonus disc (or download).

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6/20/92 would make a good pick for Dave's Pick's...

Cap. Center spring '91 would make a nice box...

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Yeah I think the Vince & Bruce era pick is coming this autumn. Judging from the 30 Dead Days downloads of recent years there are some great shows of that era I bet! I got to thinking of eras within eras and a perfect example of that recently would be 2021, with the releases of Dave's #39 & #40. The heavy organ and bass sound of the spring Philly 1983 show juxtaposing with the light as tinkling rain and bright as sparkling stars sound of Brents keys at Deer Creek 1990, arguably his last best shows. What a long and awesome strange trip!

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I know that both Harding shows (11/6/71 & 11/7/71) circulate in good audio—11/7 was an FM broadcast, BUT they're such good shows they deserve the official treatment, IMO. Does their already circulating status factor them out? Could there be a copyright issue with the station that broadcast 11/7? Full soundboards of both shows. Historic value? And the Dark Star>Other One>MAMU>Other One is interstellar. the transition back into TOO is like none other I've ever heard. 4 CD Harding remastered release please, esp. if '71 is underrepresented. : ^ ) : ^ ) : ^ )

Being in circulation, or FM broadcast, does not preclude official release.
The contents of DaP51 are in circulation, and 6-19-76 (that awesome ‘76 Box) was broadcast on FM.

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2/14/69 with filler from 2/15
Electric Factory
Philadelphia Pa.

I agree with Birchwood - that's a great show. Hopefully the readily available FM sourced versions won't mean it's off the table for an official release. It didn't stop them putting out 5/8/77, or various others available unofficially, so here's hoping.
Ain't never heard 11/6/71.
And definitely time for some `1968.

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Shipped. Looking forward to it.

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I'd rather a small '68 box Plangentized!

And a Radio '71 box...

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I am still hoping for the Ark shows as a box.

Nice. I almost bought one after your post. Except, I have a great subwoofer and I would have been buying it for inventory should mine have trouble. But mine is still kicking hard. Subs do change the entire soundscape created. Took me a long time to realize, no, there is not someone knocking on my door.

Nice pickup!!!

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....than I'm used to Gary.
Had to fine tune it. OMG it's glorious.
Tested it first with Yes's Close To The Edge vinyl.
Then Dave's 50 Eyes.
Currently Phish's Mansfield show from last night on the LivePhish app.
Mike!!
I'm not leaving the house for awhile.

I can only imagine how good close to the edge vinyl must be. Yeah I became much more of a home body once I got the subwoofer. Gonna be doing a partial couch tour with some of the Phish tour. Thought about the $600+ for whole tour, except they kind of force you to watch them faster than I can digest. I mean GD still king in this household. But really love Phish, huge 90's Phish fan.

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....got this particular piece of A/V equipment tuned.
Onto the Dave's 50 Terrapin bonus.
Oh boy.
But yeah. '90's Phish.
Thinking about playing the '95 Chicago shows next.
Enlightenment is a blessing.
This White Stripes Elephant record is trying to jump in line.
I only have two ears.
"Music is the best". Mr Ones has been awfully quite lately.
Hope he's ok.

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My first "beard" answer was "You have that rainbow feel, but the rainbow has a beard." - SWLABR

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Thanks for the heads up on the sub Vguy. I got one it's still in the box, what a great deal. I haven't had a new sub in 25 years...

"Not leaving the house for awhile" Going to have to listen to your whole music collection all over again? :-}

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Thought 2-7-69 with filler from 2-6 make a great Dave's Pick...

Then I thought hell do a Stanley Theater - Pittsburgh, PA box...

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First listen Disc 2, 3-23-74 DTS-Audio-CD Info...

Front
Left Channel SBD
Right Channel SBD

Center
Mixed to mono -1.5db SBD

Surround
Left Channel -0db AUD
Right Channel -0db AUD

Sub/LFE
Mixed to mono -1.5db SBD Reel

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Will wait till I grab a Black Thunder ll AQ cable...Break them in at together.

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Get behind Kamala or get ready to kiss the ring.

Get out and fookin' vote, people!

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...vs a convicted felon.
Go for the jugular.
Age is no longer an excuse.
Unless it is. Duhhhh.
I'm not kissing no ring ledded.

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Got on the ''Bus'' Late...1969, But By 1973 I saw Many a Show...With the 1970's being (To Me), The BEST Performances ever !,,,Thank You for offering a Great Year , 1971,,,,Looking Forward to this CD... The Hard to Handle sounds Superb !... The Dead at Their Best...AHO !

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