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    Dave's Picks Vol. 51: Scranton Catholic Youth Center, Scranton, PA (4/13/71)

    Look out Big Boss Man, Pigpen's on the loose! We're shedding our lovelight on the not-to-be-overlooked Spring 1971 tour with DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 51, featuring the complete unreleased show from the SCRANTON CATHOLIC YOUTH CENTER, SCRANTON, PA 4/13/71 AND the 2nd set from the previous night at the Pittsburgh Civic Arena in Pittsburgh, PA on 4/12/71.

    These gems find the original Grateful Dead quintet delivering some of their most inspired, energetic, and tightest performances. There's a dab of WORKINGMAN'S DEAD, a splash of AMERICAN BEAUTY, a great foreshadow into what would soon appear on SKULL & ROSES. And you'll need nearly all those fingers (or those toes) because - count 'em - there's eight classic covers ("Mama Tried," "Hard To Handle," and a rare "I Second That Emotion," to name a few) done as only the Dead could do them with Mr. McKernan and his magical harmonica.

    Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 51: SCRANTON CATHOLIC YOUTH CENTER, SCRANTON, PA 4/13/71 has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering.

    P.S. We had a little extra room on Disc 2, so please enjoy the final five DP48 bonus tracks to complete 10/24/70, St. Louis, MO.

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  • Obeah
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    God bless the Brooklyn Bowl Taper

    So 11/11/70 is one of my favorite shows. The only circulating AUD is very rough, as we all know, but as it happens Bluecrow said something in another post earlier today, and while it's about another show entirely, it's very apropos: "...with a pair of cheap headphones - listening in the dark in the middle of the high desert night - you could be there."

    This is some of the last really primal dead I can point to. Just three months later and this era was already a wisp of a dream, hard to remember... Mickey's out of the band and they're debuting a bunch of new material a little ways up the road in Port Chester. But on this first night in Brooklyn, a Wednesday, there was magic in the air. I can go on at length but it's late...

    Somewhere I thought I remember reading that the taper on this night snuck in his gear inside/under a wheelchair, but I don't know if that's true and I don't know where I am getting that from. I thought the story also went that the reason that the quality of the tape gets progressively worse with time was because the venue (which wasn't sold out) does gradually fill over time, and patrons block the sound.

    The La B amba thing... certainly Garcia teases it during Good Lovin, but if something is sung I can't remember it... the quality of the tape at that point is pretty rough. If you can get far enough at long you will get to a VERY early Goin' Down the Road. Like Sugar Mag, this is an EARLY version. One gets the idea that maybe Garcia was just tryin it on to kill a bit of time as he's almost unaccompanied as he starts out singing. Oh and then a couple of minutes in to the tune, you can hear an audience member say, "is that Jack Casady? Told ya" (I believe the Airplane were due to play up at a certain theater on the CT border that coming Friday night the 13th, but they were off this night, so they sat in.

    Like so much of the second half of 1970, I doubt we will ever hear a board copy of this show. I hope I'm wrong because this show on the whole is a tremendous work of art. It's not perfect - for example, the Hard to Handle isn't as incendiary as some others - but regardless, I expect I will always remain eternally grateful to the person who taped it for us. Forgive me if I got my facts wrong here, it's late, but corrections/additions are welcomed

  • TN John
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    Shipping Notice

    Received

    Maybe I'll get it next week for my vacation.

    Peace

  • billy the kiddd
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    Anniversary show 7/24/87 Oakland

    37 years ago I was up in Oakland to hear the Grateful Dead & Bob Dylan play. The show was fantastic, the Dead played great! Garcia played pedal steel when the Dead backed Dylan, that alone was worth the price of admission.

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    The email says “shipped”, but UPS doesn’t have it yet.

    7-10 days and hopefully it will be here.

    In the meantime Dave, announce the Box…..

  • wharfrat6969
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    Setlist has LA Bamba listed after Good Lovin' and before Cumberland Blues???

    From Brooklyn Bowl website.

  • Birchwood
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    Brooklyn Rock Palace Nov. 1970 Banana Box 4-Show Box Set!

    Brooklyn Rock Palace Nov. 1970 Banana Box 4-Show Box Set?
    I'm listening to the low-fi recording of 11-11-70 available on archive.org, and the playing is Grade A excellent. What a treat it would be if these four concerts existed in excellent audio. Anyone know more about them?
    Peace!

  • gratefulgerd
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    John Mayall

    Saw him Live at the Jahrhunderthalle, Frankfurt on May 2nd 1972 (John Mayall Blues Group).
    Just about a week after the GD hit the same stage.
    But I didn't make it to the Dead. Little had I known about them.
    After 52 years it feels unforgivable to me!
    Least we have the music.
    Cheers
    G.

  • Dennis
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    Thanks for the mention of the two Jimmy Herring albums, boobtube had both.

    Now in stock and will be listened to.

    Some great people on the Subject to Change album.

  • daverock
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    I never saw him, and I only have two of his albums - the one with Eric Clapton known as "The Beano Album" and "A Hard Road" with Peter Green on guitar. They are both great, sounding more like the real thing than an imitation of it.

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    Only saw Mayall once, as well, at a club in Toronto, and he had a hot shot guitar player with him then (Rocky Athas), and I recall we said at the time that Mayall must have been the greatest talent scout for guitarists out there, given his noble history of playing with some great ones.
    On great guitarists, I was reading Jimmy Herring has been diagnosed with tonsil cancer, but the good news is that it has been caught in Stage One, and his doctors expect with treatment, he should be fine, thankfully. For anyone who does not own his two really fine solo albums (Lifeboat; Subject To Change Without Notice), do yourself a real solid and seek them out. Tremendously underrated player.

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Dave's Picks Vol. 51: Scranton Catholic Youth Center, Scranton, PA (4/13/71)

Look out Big Boss Man, Pigpen's on the loose! We're shedding our lovelight on the not-to-be-overlooked Spring 1971 tour with DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 51, featuring the complete unreleased show from the SCRANTON CATHOLIC YOUTH CENTER, SCRANTON, PA 4/13/71 AND the 2nd set from the previous night at the Pittsburgh Civic Arena in Pittsburgh, PA on 4/12/71.

These gems find the original Grateful Dead quintet delivering some of their most inspired, energetic, and tightest performances. There's a dab of WORKINGMAN'S DEAD, a splash of AMERICAN BEAUTY, a great foreshadow into what would soon appear on SKULL & ROSES. And you'll need nearly all those fingers (or those toes) because - count 'em - there's eight classic covers ("Mama Tried," "Hard To Handle," and a rare "I Second That Emotion," to name a few) done as only the Dead could do them with Mr. McKernan and his magical harmonica.

Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 51: SCRANTON CATHOLIC YOUTH CENTER, SCRANTON, PA 4/13/71 has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering.

P.S. We had a little extra room on Disc 2, so please enjoy the final five DP48 bonus tracks to complete 10/24/70, St. Louis, MO.

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Agreed with your comment about Latvala.

Should have recognized 25 anniversary.

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How ‘bout 54 with bonus?

Uh,
I haven’t thought that far…

Sorry for brining it up.

Wait, let me come up with something.

11-11-67. 2 CD’s?
Then CD 3 and bonus filled with other 67-68 fragments of shows that are in the Vault.

Primal GD Dave.

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Been a while since we had a '76 show...

Riverfront Arena on 1976-10-02:

Bonus from 10-1:

Help On The Way-> Slipknot!-> Franklin's Tower, Dancin' In The Streets-> Drums-> The Wheel-> Ship of Fools-> Dancin' In The Streets-> Goin' Down The Road Feelin' Bad-> One More Saturday Night, E: U.S. Blues

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When thru again last night. It definitely has its place in the canon. However, I
can really notice the over driven recording. My ears have been ringing. I only cranked it full volume for a few minutes but wow, I am sure the folks left that night ears ringing. Love all the opinions discussed here. Being so early
in sound system development, it does have its flaws.

I posted an article 9 years ago which was a discussion with Dan Healy in 1991. They asked him where is the weakest point in sound reinforcement. He responded that a lot more work and research was need in microphones. My thoughts, I believe it has been in the last 5 years where we can see how far Bear's thoughts have been adopted, researched, and spread forth to the burgeoning number of line array PA companies we see today.

I am still a touched peeved that the Sphere chose holoplot to be its in house PA. I am sure it sounds great, just wished they would have gone with Meyer.

Guess tonight ends the residency.

Thanks guys for extending the golden road.

Just found a 2020 interview with Dan at live for live music. Maybe a little buzz and a read.

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....that is KGATLW'S Flight b741.
After repeated listens, it is a top five for me regarding their catalog.
Stu said "it was time to just make a fun album". It is indeed fun. Total 180 from The Silver Cord. These guys are amazing. It's probably their most accessible release in four years. Great album to drive to. Check it out!

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Just read a great interview with Featherstone about sphere production etc, fascinating. Think it was from Relix? Sound through glass panels? That doesn’t make me feel all warm and fuzzy lol

Ok, am I the only one who has noticed two mentions of our senators clandestine conference in Vegas recently, but nothing…?..crickets, no intel, no stories..no newspaper headlines? Hmmm, somtin don’t smell right?
Hope it’s not coming from that hidden bunker beneath vguys back yard ; )

I heard them via my son a few years ago

I know "Rattlesnake" and recall one other track

How many albums have they made?

If they come through Seattle maybe I'll go. If tickets arent $300 each or something

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26 albums

No Seattle show. The Gorge? Yes.

After my most recent event at the Gorge...never again.

Every freakin band in the world plays Seattle. Except those i would like to see.

Portland!
Spokane!
Vancouver BC!

But Seattle? Nope.

grumble grumble, i guess

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....first release. 2012. 26 releases since.
Say what you want, but they spoil their fans.
Road trip it.

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Listened to some of Scranton again this evening. Last Sunday at the Deer Creek Phish show, the brother who pulled up behind me was listening a very recognizable Crazy Fingers. Yep! Sure enough, Autzen, '90, DaP 44. So then we moved on to July 18 DaP 40. Good times indeed (it all rolls into one....).

They have 197 shows up on the archive.

Just downloaded Quarters off boob tube.

I had Polygondwanaland in stock.

Quarters is sounding good.

ADDED FYI - the king has a web site with a bootleg section giving away soundboard stuff.

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Ok

Many commercial interruptions unfortunately

Quarters played with zero

Eyes Like the Sky next

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....may I suggest Infest The Rats Nest next PF.
You like the heavy stuff, correct?

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I tried Eyes Like the Sky but narration was too depressing.

Plus I had to do some honey-do's

Back on the couch...

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First disc is ok second disc way distorted. What do you think happened ?

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Are these guys for real or just latter-day Pranksters?

There is indeed no Planet B

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....then out of nowhere, there is a "new" live BOC on Spotify.
Live Tyranny & Mutation. 50th anniversary. Live in NYC.

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Yes, distortion. Unfortunately is on this release and other 71 releases. Not there with the multi track recordings from this year.

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The company that ticketbastard tasked with cleaning up their data breach mess is garbage as well.
This is not good :/

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The Floaters (1977)

Oro - Found the Featherstone article. Hope to read it today or in the morning.

No doubt he is a the sheet. Maybe the best multitasker alive today.

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....I've been getting a lot of texts from "USPS" regarding being unable to deliver packages I've never ordered and to call a number to get it straightened out.
Nice try.

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Thanks to the good folks in customer service, I received my re-sent copy of 51 yesterday here in Norway... er... North Carolina. If the series doesn't go to digital offering like the boxes, I may be done after this year. You know it's bad with the mails when the gov't water company says not to mail check payments because so many are getting lost in the mail.

To me, 51 is an interesting historical document on par with the houseboat tapes but that's about it. The liner notes say the H2H is perfectly played, yet the one on Ladies & Gents is tighter by far. The distortion mentioned by others seems worst at the end of each 4/13 set with some nasty "flutter." I didn't see Plangent mentioned on the package.

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They can only do so much. To do anything else during a production of a pick, inadverntently or not, would jeopardize authenticity, IMHO, of course!!!! lol

Rock on, gang

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They seem to really struggle moving freight

I don't understand. At all

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That scam Vguy got is huge and has stolen millions already with careless victims giving them info like cc numbers and more. Beware of these emails and texts claiming to be USPS with an undeliverable package pretext.
Cheers

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Phuching leaches, get a job loser!
And get off my lawn!

Hey 1stshow, you get flooded at all? Stay dry over there son!
Rains been awesome. No flooding here at all yet 🤞

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....make sure you warn your friends and loved ones that may be suseptible to scams like that.

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Nope but getting a half inch 2 days ago was a surprise. Flooding just doesn't happen here since we got one of the last dams built in the west on our Uncompahgre R. in 1987. I heard the Dolores R. had some minor flooding. Happy to have moisture totals still above yearly averages thanks to rainy May/June and now again almost an inch here in Aug. which is a bit early for monsoon season. After 10 years of drought where we never make our annual 10 inch average. Doc gets that much in one storm! We are sending it downstream, lol.
Cheers

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I’m on my 4th listen and probably won’t reach for it again for a long time.
The 12th sounds better to me.

Good historical document. I didn’t read the liner notes, so don’t know if Dave says why this was picked over another night. Might be saving better sounding shows for later.

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....they are officially offering free narcan to all their upcoming shows.
With fent out there lurking, this is awesome news. Hope they start a trend.
I'm finally going to see them in November.
And yes. The 12th does sound better.

Back in my day the worst that could happen was harshing out. And we had freakout tents. We were SMART hippies.

Fentanyl....why the phuhcq would anyone go near that shyte

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....grains of sand (Bob Dylan), is all it takes if you're particular inoffensive drug of choice is laced. With. Literal grains.
The adults here didn't have to worry about that shit back in the day. All I heard back then was pcp laced shermsticks. Raise your hand if you understand that reference.

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Anyone knows anything.. ?

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"Ancient prankster secret"

Raise your hand if you understand THAT bizarre reference.

No rumors or anything that I have heard, Danehead.

We'll know more in October, methinks.

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Drive around the Emerald City for an hour. Fent casualties abound.

Pets are good companions.

They are also MONEY PITS.

sweet phuqkn creases

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Proudfoot - I’m thinking an old Calgon commercial, “‘Ancient Chinese secret’, eh Mr Lee?!”
Both a New Potato Caboose (1971 Edit) AND a 1969 Dupree on Dead satellite on one short drive today - must buy a lottery ticket! Like catching a leprechaun! 🍀
Recently got a mint copy from the UK of a hard to find CD called/by a group called “LA Getaway”. Always on my radar but always at “Collector” prices, pretty decent listen. Band (Chris Ethridge - Burritos; Joel Scott Hill - Canned Heat; the late Johnny Barbara - Turtles/Starship) made this one record, and dropped out of sight. Fun chasing an elusive item on your “must have” list, fewer and fewer like it now.

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What a bizarre commercial

He spoke in Stereotype
His wife sounded like a Valley Girl

Quite the juxtaposition

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I'll bite. I'm guessing that's a "Sherman", as mentioned in "Do You Feel Like I Do?" by Peter Frampton, laced with PCP.. I remember a guy in Central Park (NYC) back in '79
who was probably selling the same thing. His line (with a heavy NY accent):
"Get your space joints, here...See Star Wars".

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