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    Dave's Picks Vol. 51: Scranton Catholic Youth Center, Scranton, PA (4/13/71)

    Look out Big Boss Man, Pigpen's on the loose! We're shedding our lovelight on the not-to-be-overlooked Spring 1971 tour with DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 51, featuring the complete unreleased show from the SCRANTON CATHOLIC YOUTH CENTER, SCRANTON, PA 4/13/71 AND the 2nd set from the previous night at the Pittsburgh Civic Arena in Pittsburgh, PA on 4/12/71.

    These gems find the original Grateful Dead quintet delivering some of their most inspired, energetic, and tightest performances. There's a dab of WORKINGMAN'S DEAD, a splash of AMERICAN BEAUTY, a great foreshadow into what would soon appear on SKULL & ROSES. And you'll need nearly all those fingers (or those toes) because - count 'em - there's eight classic covers ("Mama Tried," "Hard To Handle," and a rare "I Second That Emotion," to name a few) done as only the Dead could do them with Mr. McKernan and his magical harmonica.

    Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 51: SCRANTON CATHOLIC YOUTH CENTER, SCRANTON, PA 4/13/71 has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering.

    P.S. We had a little extra room on Disc 2, so please enjoy the final five DP48 bonus tracks to complete 10/24/70, St. Louis, MO.

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  • #561
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    So tired of mediocre Dave's picks . Let's retire this series, remaster, remix and plangent process the entire Dicks's Picks! YEAH!

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    I have been starting to look back at Seinfeld

    Loved it back then. May hunt down box.

    Never thought about the same thing, sorta, a dog chasing its tail. Hmmm

    I am assuming Phil played that bass during '77 new years run.

    Yes, meant for both.

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    Yinyang lol

    See, he’s a teacher, and thus wisdom etc,
    I choose mine more for the comical representation of my life as a dog chasing my own tail…(my original avatar; )

    Yes, lol, asteroids and cosmic syncretization, or cosmic debris, both appearing like the Bizarro Jerry street scene!

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    Didnt realize we had both on same day. NICE!

    Found the repost. Quite lengthy. Will read after I get grooved up!

    OB as a sign of death and birth or rebirth, depending on you affinity.

    Read that the first time you posted I assume. Cant wait to read again. I even booked mark in my GD folder.

    Thanks so much.

    And both of you keep posting as much as possible. Just extremely amazing to me both on same day.

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    Great stuff on Phil's Alembic, and reminded me how the Oroborous (snake or dragon) was a different ancient symbol of infinity.

    Mary reposted my story here, search- JERRY, THE DRAGON, AND THE LONG STRANGE TRIP, AS TOLD BY OROBOROUS

    "It ain't what I don't know that gets me into trouble, it's what I know for sure, that ain't so."

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    We have Air Supply in one room and Christopher Cross in another room on same night.

    Guess I'll get all cowboyed up and go trolling for the ladies.

    Women go crazy for a sharp dressed man.

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    The Other One called OB I haven't seen around here in years.

    The reason for that last post was the Osiris-REx/Osiris-Apophos mission there was a NASA deadhead employee that put a live recording of Grateful Dead on that mission. Mind is a little fuzzy, but almost 100% sure it had a Dark Star on it. I started down that rabbit hole looking for that recording. Still havent found it. I will continue to look.

    I just stretched out a little because it has been a little lite recently.

    To 1971!!!

    Trying to Edit for better clarity.

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    Mission Control +

    I have a cool book: Immortal Axes That Rocked, that has cool pics and similar info about Phil’s bass, AND!!! Jerry’s Pretzel Guitar!
    Good sheet Mon!

    You say po TA Toe, I say p tah to lol
    Gary, Yer not seeing double, this time lol (JK)
    The original good Oroboros, who is the creator of the ceramic beast and it’s long strange trip, beat me to it by two weeks, so I had seen another spelling some where? Used to think in the Dead Book by C Loves father, Hank Harrison, but now think that’s not correct? Can’t really remember?, and now of course it’s gotten confusing, so like that awesome Seinfeld episode where they all have alternative dimension other selves, like in “Bizarro Jerry”, “Bizarro George” etc, that we’re just like them, only opposite personality wise, hilarious if you’ve never seen it!
    So I’m the Bizarro Oro, the Other, Other One Lol the evil twin lol
    I felt bad when Marye posted his great tale in the community section but with my spelling. I tried to set the record strait back then, but kept getting pummeled mercilessly by the you know who police!
    Thanks again to Marye for posting that awesome tale!
    The stories are my favorite reason to hang here, so we need more good tales!

    So glad now to be able to give credit where credit is due!
    The kind, good, original Oroboros is THAT Oro, and I’m just a second rate loud mouth prankster who eats breaths shits way too much GOGD, but hopefully at least brings smiles and laughs to the people ; )

    Oh, the meteorite is crazy stuff, but reminds me of the episode where Kramer has a dream he’s riding one “like a cowboy Jerry” …. ; )

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    Kinda slow, maybe I'll stretch out a little

    In 2018 we were having discussions about Osiris REx. A NASA satellite launch which had 2 purposes. 1) It was sent to collect a Sample from near earth asteroid Bennu. 2) After flying by earth to drop the sample to earth, which it accomplished on September 21, 2023, it's name was changed to Osiris Apex (Osiris Apophos). It is heading to Apophos which is a large asteroid that is heading to very near earth in 2029. Apophos means God of Destruction. It is the size of the Eiffel Tower and will be visible with the naked eye. Space trackers have pushed out it hitting earth until 2129 or so, 100 hundred years from now. But still a very high level threat.

    Now to continue on this thread considering Grateful Dead and its meaning and Phil Lesh and Egypt. I ran across a great Guitar World report on Phil's "Mission Control" base as part of it follows:

    "Just about any Deadhead is familiar with the Phil Lesh bass known as ‘Mission Control’. What is hazy are many of the details, as this bass guitar seemed to simply disappear over 40 years ago.

    This astounding custom Alembic bass, with serial number 74 00008, was played by Lesh on stage with the Grateful Dead from June 16, 1974 until July 1, 1979, and was hand-built at Alembic by luthier Rick Turner.

    Only the eighth instrument built by Alembic, Turner started it in 1972 and completed it in mid-1974. ‘Osiris’, aka ‘Mission Control’, ‘Osage Orange’ or ‘The Omega’, was built not just for, but as part of, the band’s historic Wall Of Sound. The significance of the Wall Of Sound, another brainchild of Alembic co-founder Owsley ‘Bear’ Stanley III, cannot be overstated.

    This grand audio experiment spawned the modern PA system, and set a standard still unmatched today. However, that is only part of the story of this bass and its builders at Alembic. This instrument and a handful of its contemporaries set the stage for the modern ‘boutique’ instrument.

    Consider the construction of this bass, beyond its exotic inlays and electronics. When this instrument was built, you could count on two hands the number of instruments built this way. It featured laminated neck-thru construction, coupled with sandwiched, exotic tone wood wings known as ‘The Hippie Sandwich’.

    These techniques, pioneered by the builders at Alembic, have paved the way for countless luthiers and instruments that now use these elements as the standard for today’s boutique instrument. Jerry Garcia’s Wolf guitar, built by Luthier Doug Irwin in 1972 to 1973, featured the same type of construction, and was also used with the Wall Of Sound.

    Irwin also came from the Alembic tree of luthiers. Used by Lesh at over 250 Grateful Dead shows in that five-year period, the Mission Control bass became iconic in its own right, with Rolling Stone magazine featuring the instrument in an Alembic article in September 1973. It was also featured in its own scene in The Grateful Dead Movie the following year."

    Later in the article, dated April 1, 2021, it lists the inlays of Phil's Osiris Bass, also called Apophos in another article as follows:
    "The ebony fingerboard is covered in 11 different exotic inlays. For the record, these are:

    Mother-of-pearl lightning bolts striking lapis lazuli An abalone serpent eating its own tail
    A mother-of-pearl crescent moon
    An abalone lizard
    An abalone Darkstar Mother-of-pearl and abalone stars
    An abalone bat
    An abalone infinity symbol
    A mother-of-pearl and abalone Saturn
    Abalone kissing fish, as Lesh is a Pisces
    More mother-of-pearl lightning bolts striking lapis lazuli"

    I bring this up as Oroborous has the picture of Oroborous today as his picture. I know we have 2 Oroborus', hope I have the right one. The other talked about making an Oroborous and putting it on stage and then meeting Jerry the next morning and giving it to him. Now that is a long time ago so memory fuzzy. But look at the neck Phil had of these GD symbols. Also, it matches his guitar strap.

    There is a lot too this. May post more later, but feel I have over extended the welcome for now. Send PM if you want direct web pages. I am sure they will have to be broken up.

    G

    From there down the rabbit hole I found articles by Ryan Slesinger, PhD and Vincent Bridges. Both who document the deeper meanings of Grateful Dead as it relates to the book of the dead. These are long involved article which I am still reading/digesting.

    Apophis not Apophos. Edit

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    Got mine, too.

    Shipping notice received.

    Hope others get theirs as well.

    Got a sticker handed to me at my last JRAD show, a quote from Joe Russo "It's kinda amazing when everybody is so fuckin quiet. It allows us to do things. Thanks guys. Silence is cool."

    Agree x 1,000,000,000 with Joe's sentiment (and that expressed by posters here).

    "Teachers open the door, but you must enter by yourself."

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Dave's Picks Vol. 51: Scranton Catholic Youth Center, Scranton, PA (4/13/71)

Look out Big Boss Man, Pigpen's on the loose! We're shedding our lovelight on the not-to-be-overlooked Spring 1971 tour with DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 51, featuring the complete unreleased show from the SCRANTON CATHOLIC YOUTH CENTER, SCRANTON, PA 4/13/71 AND the 2nd set from the previous night at the Pittsburgh Civic Arena in Pittsburgh, PA on 4/12/71.

These gems find the original Grateful Dead quintet delivering some of their most inspired, energetic, and tightest performances. There's a dab of WORKINGMAN'S DEAD, a splash of AMERICAN BEAUTY, a great foreshadow into what would soon appear on SKULL & ROSES. And you'll need nearly all those fingers (or those toes) because - count 'em - there's eight classic covers ("Mama Tried," "Hard To Handle," and a rare "I Second That Emotion," to name a few) done as only the Dead could do them with Mr. McKernan and his magical harmonica.

Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 51: SCRANTON CATHOLIC YOUTH CENTER, SCRANTON, PA 4/13/71 has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering.

P.S. We had a little extra room on Disc 2, so please enjoy the final five DP48 bonus tracks to complete 10/24/70, St. Louis, MO.

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Submitted by Gary Farseer on Fri, 08/09/2024 - 09:38

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Agreed with your comment about Latvala.

Should have recognized 25 anniversary.

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Submitted by icecrmcnkd on Fri, 08/09/2024 - 18:21

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How ‘bout 54 with bonus?

Uh,
I haven’t thought that far…

Sorry for brining it up.

Wait, let me come up with something.

11-11-67. 2 CD’s?
Then CD 3 and bonus filled with other 67-68 fragments of shows that are in the Vault.

Primal GD Dave.

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Submitted by fourwindsblow on Sat, 08/10/2024 - 00:54

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Been a while since we had a '76 show...

Riverfront Arena on 1976-10-02:

Bonus from 10-1:

Help On The Way-> Slipknot!-> Franklin's Tower, Dancin' In The Streets-> Drums-> The Wheel-> Ship of Fools-> Dancin' In The Streets-> Goin' Down The Road Feelin' Bad-> One More Saturday Night, E: U.S. Blues

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Submitted by Gary Farseer on Sat, 08/10/2024 - 08:50

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When thru again last night. It definitely has its place in the canon. However, I
can really notice the over driven recording. My ears have been ringing. I only cranked it full volume for a few minutes but wow, I am sure the folks left that night ears ringing. Love all the opinions discussed here. Being so early
in sound system development, it does have its flaws.

I posted an article 9 years ago which was a discussion with Dan Healy in 1991. They asked him where is the weakest point in sound reinforcement. He responded that a lot more work and research was need in microphones. My thoughts, I believe it has been in the last 5 years where we can see how far Bear's thoughts have been adopted, researched, and spread forth to the burgeoning number of line array PA companies we see today.

I am still a touched peeved that the Sphere chose holoplot to be its in house PA. I am sure it sounds great, just wished they would have gone with Meyer.

Guess tonight ends the residency.

Thanks guys for extending the golden road.

Just found a 2020 interview with Dan at live for live music. Maybe a little buzz and a read.

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Sat, 08/10/2024 - 12:04

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....that is KGATLW'S Flight b741.
After repeated listens, it is a top five for me regarding their catalog.
Stu said "it was time to just make a fun album". It is indeed fun. Total 180 from The Silver Cord. These guys are amazing. It's probably their most accessible release in four years. Great album to drive to. Check it out!

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Submitted by Oroborous on Sat, 08/10/2024 - 13:19

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Just read a great interview with Featherstone about sphere production etc, fascinating. Think it was from Relix? Sound through glass panels? That doesn’t make me feel all warm and fuzzy lol

Ok, am I the only one who has noticed two mentions of our senators clandestine conference in Vegas recently, but nothing…?..crickets, no intel, no stories..no newspaper headlines? Hmmm, somtin don’t smell right?
Hope it’s not coming from that hidden bunker beneath vguys back yard ; )

I heard them via my son a few years ago

I know "Rattlesnake" and recall one other track

How many albums have they made?

If they come through Seattle maybe I'll go. If tickets arent $300 each or something

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Submitted by proudfoot on Sat, 08/10/2024 - 14:59

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26 albums

No Seattle show. The Gorge? Yes.

After my most recent event at the Gorge...never again.

Every freakin band in the world plays Seattle. Except those i would like to see.

Portland!
Spokane!
Vancouver BC!

But Seattle? Nope.

grumble grumble, i guess

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Sat, 08/10/2024 - 15:31

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....first release. 2012. 26 releases since.
Say what you want, but they spoil their fans.
Road trip it.

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Submitted by FiveBranch on Sat, 08/10/2024 - 19:58

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Listened to some of Scranton again this evening. Last Sunday at the Deer Creek Phish show, the brother who pulled up behind me was listening a very recognizable Crazy Fingers. Yep! Sure enough, Autzen, '90, DaP 44. So then we moved on to July 18 DaP 40. Good times indeed (it all rolls into one....).

They have 197 shows up on the archive.

Just downloaded Quarters off boob tube.

I had Polygondwanaland in stock.

Quarters is sounding good.

ADDED FYI - the king has a web site with a bootleg section giving away soundboard stuff.

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Submitted by proudfoot on Sun, 08/11/2024 - 10:53

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Ok

Many commercial interruptions unfortunately

Quarters played with zero

Eyes Like the Sky next

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Sun, 08/11/2024 - 13:05

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....may I suggest Infest The Rats Nest next PF.
You like the heavy stuff, correct?

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Submitted by proudfoot on Sun, 08/11/2024 - 15:07

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I tried Eyes Like the Sky but narration was too depressing.

Plus I had to do some honey-do's

Back on the couch...

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Submitted by scott06739@ver… on Sun, 08/11/2024 - 15:23

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First disc is ok second disc way distorted. What do you think happened ?

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Submitted by proudfoot on Sun, 08/11/2024 - 18:48

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Are these guys for real or just latter-day Pranksters?

There is indeed no Planet B

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Sun, 08/11/2024 - 20:37

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....then out of nowhere, there is a "new" live BOC on Spotify.
Live Tyranny & Mutation. 50th anniversary. Live in NYC.

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Submitted by DeadVikes on Mon, 08/12/2024 - 09:53

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Yes, distortion. Unfortunately is on this release and other 71 releases. Not there with the multi track recordings from this year.

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Submitted by JoeyMC on Mon, 08/12/2024 - 10:22

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The company that ticketbastard tasked with cleaning up their data breach mess is garbage as well.
This is not good :/

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Submitted by Gary Farseer on Mon, 08/12/2024 - 13:48

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The Floaters (1977)

Oro - Found the Featherstone article. Hope to read it today or in the morning.

No doubt he is a the sheet. Maybe the best multitasker alive today.

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Tue, 08/13/2024 - 06:38

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....I've been getting a lot of texts from "USPS" regarding being unable to deliver packages I've never ordered and to call a number to get it straightened out.
Nice try.

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Submitted by VirgoHead on Tue, 08/13/2024 - 07:24

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Thanks to the good folks in customer service, I received my re-sent copy of 51 yesterday here in Norway... er... North Carolina. If the series doesn't go to digital offering like the boxes, I may be done after this year. You know it's bad with the mails when the gov't water company says not to mail check payments because so many are getting lost in the mail.

To me, 51 is an interesting historical document on par with the houseboat tapes but that's about it. The liner notes say the H2H is perfectly played, yet the one on Ladies & Gents is tighter by far. The distortion mentioned by others seems worst at the end of each 4/13 set with some nasty "flutter." I didn't see Plangent mentioned on the package.

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Submitted by jonathan918@GD on Tue, 08/13/2024 - 09:15

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They can only do so much. To do anything else during a production of a pick, inadverntently or not, would jeopardize authenticity, IMHO, of course!!!! lol

Rock on, gang

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Submitted by jonathan918@GD on Tue, 08/13/2024 - 09:36

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They seem to really struggle moving freight

I don't understand. At all

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Submitted by 1stshow70878 on Tue, 08/13/2024 - 09:58

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That scam Vguy got is huge and has stolen millions already with careless victims giving them info like cc numbers and more. Beware of these emails and texts claiming to be USPS with an undeliverable package pretext.
Cheers

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Submitted by Oroborous on Tue, 08/13/2024 - 10:34

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Phuching leaches, get a job loser!
And get off my lawn!

Hey 1stshow, you get flooded at all? Stay dry over there son!
Rains been awesome. No flooding here at all yet 🤞

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Tue, 08/13/2024 - 11:06

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....make sure you warn your friends and loved ones that may be suseptible to scams like that.

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Submitted by 1stshow70878 on Tue, 08/13/2024 - 11:16

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Nope but getting a half inch 2 days ago was a surprise. Flooding just doesn't happen here since we got one of the last dams built in the west on our Uncompahgre R. in 1987. I heard the Dolores R. had some minor flooding. Happy to have moisture totals still above yearly averages thanks to rainy May/June and now again almost an inch here in Aug. which is a bit early for monsoon season. After 10 years of drought where we never make our annual 10 inch average. Doc gets that much in one storm! We are sending it downstream, lol.
Cheers

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Submitted by icecrmcnkd on Tue, 08/13/2024 - 15:53

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I’m on my 4th listen and probably won’t reach for it again for a long time.
The 12th sounds better to me.

Good historical document. I didn’t read the liner notes, so don’t know if Dave says why this was picked over another night. Might be saving better sounding shows for later.

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Tue, 08/13/2024 - 18:26

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....they are officially offering free narcan to all their upcoming shows.
With fent out there lurking, this is awesome news. Hope they start a trend.
I'm finally going to see them in November.
And yes. The 12th does sound better.

Back in my day the worst that could happen was harshing out. And we had freakout tents. We were SMART hippies.

Fentanyl....why the phuhcq would anyone go near that shyte

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Tue, 08/13/2024 - 21:16

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....grains of sand (Bob Dylan), is all it takes if you're particular inoffensive drug of choice is laced. With. Literal grains.
The adults here didn't have to worry about that shit back in the day. All I heard back then was pcp laced shermsticks. Raise your hand if you understand that reference.

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Submitted by Danehead on Wed, 08/14/2024 - 05:58

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Anyone knows anything.. ?

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Submitted by proudfoot on Wed, 08/14/2024 - 06:35

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"Ancient prankster secret"

Raise your hand if you understand THAT bizarre reference.

No rumors or anything that I have heard, Danehead.

We'll know more in October, methinks.

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Submitted by proudfoot on Wed, 08/14/2024 - 06:39

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Drive around the Emerald City for an hour. Fent casualties abound.

Pets are good companions.

They are also MONEY PITS.

sweet phuqkn creases

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Submitted by That Mike on Wed, 08/14/2024 - 07:59

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Proudfoot - I’m thinking an old Calgon commercial, “‘Ancient Chinese secret’, eh Mr Lee?!”
Both a New Potato Caboose (1971 Edit) AND a 1969 Dupree on Dead satellite on one short drive today - must buy a lottery ticket! Like catching a leprechaun! 🍀
Recently got a mint copy from the UK of a hard to find CD called/by a group called “LA Getaway”. Always on my radar but always at “Collector” prices, pretty decent listen. Band (Chris Ethridge - Burritos; Joel Scott Hill - Canned Heat; the late Johnny Barbara - Turtles/Starship) made this one record, and dropped out of sight. Fun chasing an elusive item on your “must have” list, fewer and fewer like it now.

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Submitted by proudfoot on Wed, 08/14/2024 - 08:37

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What a bizarre commercial

He spoke in Stereotype
His wife sounded like a Valley Girl

Quite the juxtaposition

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Submitted by bigbrownie on Wed, 08/14/2024 - 09:04

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I'll bite. I'm guessing that's a "Sherman", as mentioned in "Do You Feel Like I Do?" by Peter Frampton, laced with PCP.. I remember a guy in Central Park (NYC) back in '79
who was probably selling the same thing. His line (with a heavy NY accent):
"Get your space joints, here...See Star Wars".

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