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    Dave's Picks Vol. 51: Scranton Catholic Youth Center, Scranton, PA (4/13/71)

    Look out Big Boss Man, Pigpen's on the loose! We're shedding our lovelight on the not-to-be-overlooked Spring 1971 tour with DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 51, featuring the complete unreleased show from the SCRANTON CATHOLIC YOUTH CENTER, SCRANTON, PA 4/13/71 AND the 2nd set from the previous night at the Pittsburgh Civic Arena in Pittsburgh, PA on 4/12/71.

    These gems find the original Grateful Dead quintet delivering some of their most inspired, energetic, and tightest performances. There's a dab of WORKINGMAN'S DEAD, a splash of AMERICAN BEAUTY, a great foreshadow into what would soon appear on SKULL & ROSES. And you'll need nearly all those fingers (or those toes) because - count 'em - there's eight classic covers ("Mama Tried," "Hard To Handle," and a rare "I Second That Emotion," to name a few) done as only the Dead could do them with Mr. McKernan and his magical harmonica.

    Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 51: SCRANTON CATHOLIC YOUTH CENTER, SCRANTON, PA 4/13/71 has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering.

    P.S. We had a little extra room on Disc 2, so please enjoy the final five DP48 bonus tracks to complete 10/24/70, St. Louis, MO.

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  • #81
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    Since I am clueless on the stats I'll just pick some shows I attended.
    For a Bruce: 12-9-90
    For a Vince: 3-6-94
    Just for fun: 6-8-80
    Why not?
    Cheers

  • #82
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    Now that the Box is out, it’s just 52 and Black Friday RSD to be announced.
    And then time to subscribe for 2025.

    A Bruce show for 52 would be grate.
    10-31-91
    It’s got a Dark Star…..

    For a post-Bruce Vince release 3-30-94 would be nice.
    It also has a Dark Star.

  • #83
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    Dave has come to a point now where legitimately he could spread the release years around more equally. Being that so much has been released now to date over multiple years and numerous compilations or series. Not to mention big and mini Box Sets!

    Well, 1977 is picked close to the bone, so has 1974 which had less shows done overall {Wall O'Sound}. 1976 has only half a years worth of shows, and only 3 have been Dave's releases so far {1976 is also a first year Dave's Picks representation}. 1972 still has some early springtime shows {Academy of Music} remaining before the Big {Massively released} Europe tour, and then after getting back stateside there's quite a bunch left during the midsummer to autumn and winter `72. The years 1973 & 1978 still have much shows left each for their year as a whole, with also some major variations in set lists and style during said years. Only 1973 has a big chuck gone, the summer shows.

    So all that said, on any given year now, Dave could release at least one, maybe two Kieth & Donna era shows, {pre & post hiatus} then at least one, maybe two Brent era shows, {For one show pick from 1984~`86, with two shows pick from {1979~`83} & {1987~1990}.
    That leaves room for either a Pig era show or a Vince & Bruce era pick, maybe both depending on how many Brent or Keith & Donna shows got done for that year.

    This is the good math!

    P.S. Gimme your bets for Dave's Pick #52! He already hinted that it would be a post Brent 1990s show. My money's on Nassau 3/27/91, too many unique aspects to pass on.

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    Good points, all, Deadvikes. Dave is indeed unpredictable.

    It probably surprises no one to observe that 1977 leads the way in the DaP catalog of releases with 8 shows to date. And it's most welcome to note that 1974 comes second with 6. But 1971 now has 5. All three of those years were represented in the very first year of the DaP series, so empirically it might seem that Dave has a strong affinity for each one.

    And yet I also recognize that some of his decisions were governed by what's in the vault (or maybe what was repatriated to the vault!); what is available in a very high-quality recording; what was already released in other series or box sets, and so on. One thing we can probably all agree upon, though, is that Dave truly has one of the most interesting jobs in the world. He's like a real-life version of that Dos Equis guy. Except Canadian and clean-shaven.

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    Great show! Lets get this one released. Please.

  • #86
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    Muffed beginning to Brokedown

    They muffed the beginning of Brokedown Palace when they played it as an encore when I saw them on 3/27/81, too. Looking in The Taping Compendium to jog my memory, after playing the opening chords, Jerry came in with the wrong verse. To quote the good book -
    ""Sorry! Premature senility," says Jerry with a grin, before playing and singing it so soulfully that I'm reduced to tears for the second time in one night."

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    That's it, thanks. Believe it or not, but I typed in BP first but China somehow came to mind. It's pretty rare to hear Jerry talk much at shows, except for his sweet lyrics.

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    Obeah,

    The one thing we know for sure is Dave can be unpredictable at times. Never thought he would release another 71 show for #48 and release this Scranton show two releases later. Who knows, maybe he will release another 71 show for #52.

    Would love to see an 88 or 91. It is time.

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    Not sure about a China Doll - maybe you're thinking of Brokedown Palace at Telluride 8/16/87? Double encore - as they start Brokedown out of Touch It slowly grinds to a halt and Jerry exclaims something to the effect of - "Wait a minute! This is all fucked up! We're in then wrong key! You folks are used to this - oxygen deprivation. Forget that all happened!" And they start Brokedown fresh.

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    9/26/91 or...?

    Well, for three of the last four years, the last DaP of the year was a later-era show - Vol. 36 was 1987 and then Vols. 40 and 44 were both from 1990. So it seems a reasonable supposition to think he might dip into '91 for Vol. 52.

    On the other side of the coin, this year Dave already cracked open 1985 for the first time (Vol 49) - you have to go back to Vols 35 and 36 for the last time he broached two new years (new for the DaP series, that is) in one calendar/subscription year. Would he really end the year with a 1991 release? People have been speculating about 9/26 for some years now, but it never really sounds like informed speculation but just more of "I was there" and "this was the best night of the run" chatter. And ofc one of Dave's first releases when he took over the Dick's series was 9/25, so he surely considered the 26th back then but passed.

    My own feeling is that while '91 is the last strong year for the band, the energy did wane as the year went along. I think the March shows, or perhaps Vegas in late April, have more to offer. The August Shoreline shows have some fire to them. But for any of these it's not hard to imagine that Rhino will struggle to shift 25,000 copies. And if they are willing to risk a Fall '91 release, one of the MSG shows (8 still unreleased) seems a safer sales bet than Boston.

    But there's still no Dave's from 1989, nor '88. Either would likely sell better than a '91. And I note that the last '76 released (notwithstanding the 2020 box set) was Vol. 28.

    Oh well, I'm always wrong when I play the "guess what Dave will release" game. Since I didn't mention it, it will probably be '73.

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Dave's Picks Vol. 51: Scranton Catholic Youth Center, Scranton, PA (4/13/71)

Look out Big Boss Man, Pigpen's on the loose! We're shedding our lovelight on the not-to-be-overlooked Spring 1971 tour with DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 51, featuring the complete unreleased show from the SCRANTON CATHOLIC YOUTH CENTER, SCRANTON, PA 4/13/71 AND the 2nd set from the previous night at the Pittsburgh Civic Arena in Pittsburgh, PA on 4/12/71.

These gems find the original Grateful Dead quintet delivering some of their most inspired, energetic, and tightest performances. There's a dab of WORKINGMAN'S DEAD, a splash of AMERICAN BEAUTY, a great foreshadow into what would soon appear on SKULL & ROSES. And you'll need nearly all those fingers (or those toes) because - count 'em - there's eight classic covers ("Mama Tried," "Hard To Handle," and a rare "I Second That Emotion," to name a few) done as only the Dead could do them with Mr. McKernan and his magical harmonica.

Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 51: SCRANTON CATHOLIC YOUTH CENTER, SCRANTON, PA 4/13/71 has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering.

P.S. We had a little extra room on Disc 2, so please enjoy the final five DP48 bonus tracks to complete 10/24/70, St. Louis, MO.

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Submitted by Gary Farseer on Fri, 08/09/2024 - 09:38

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Agreed with your comment about Latvala.

Should have recognized 25 anniversary.

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Submitted by icecrmcnkd on Fri, 08/09/2024 - 18:21

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How ‘bout 54 with bonus?

Uh,
I haven’t thought that far…

Sorry for brining it up.

Wait, let me come up with something.

11-11-67. 2 CD’s?
Then CD 3 and bonus filled with other 67-68 fragments of shows that are in the Vault.

Primal GD Dave.

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Submitted by fourwindsblow on Sat, 08/10/2024 - 00:54

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Been a while since we had a '76 show...

Riverfront Arena on 1976-10-02:

Bonus from 10-1:

Help On The Way-> Slipknot!-> Franklin's Tower, Dancin' In The Streets-> Drums-> The Wheel-> Ship of Fools-> Dancin' In The Streets-> Goin' Down The Road Feelin' Bad-> One More Saturday Night, E: U.S. Blues

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Submitted by Gary Farseer on Sat, 08/10/2024 - 08:50

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When thru again last night. It definitely has its place in the canon. However, I
can really notice the over driven recording. My ears have been ringing. I only cranked it full volume for a few minutes but wow, I am sure the folks left that night ears ringing. Love all the opinions discussed here. Being so early
in sound system development, it does have its flaws.

I posted an article 9 years ago which was a discussion with Dan Healy in 1991. They asked him where is the weakest point in sound reinforcement. He responded that a lot more work and research was need in microphones. My thoughts, I believe it has been in the last 5 years where we can see how far Bear's thoughts have been adopted, researched, and spread forth to the burgeoning number of line array PA companies we see today.

I am still a touched peeved that the Sphere chose holoplot to be its in house PA. I am sure it sounds great, just wished they would have gone with Meyer.

Guess tonight ends the residency.

Thanks guys for extending the golden road.

Just found a 2020 interview with Dan at live for live music. Maybe a little buzz and a read.

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Sat, 08/10/2024 - 12:04

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....that is KGATLW'S Flight b741.
After repeated listens, it is a top five for me regarding their catalog.
Stu said "it was time to just make a fun album". It is indeed fun. Total 180 from The Silver Cord. These guys are amazing. It's probably their most accessible release in four years. Great album to drive to. Check it out!

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Submitted by Oroborous on Sat, 08/10/2024 - 13:19

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Just read a great interview with Featherstone about sphere production etc, fascinating. Think it was from Relix? Sound through glass panels? That doesn’t make me feel all warm and fuzzy lol

Ok, am I the only one who has noticed two mentions of our senators clandestine conference in Vegas recently, but nothing…?..crickets, no intel, no stories..no newspaper headlines? Hmmm, somtin don’t smell right?
Hope it’s not coming from that hidden bunker beneath vguys back yard ; )

I heard them via my son a few years ago

I know "Rattlesnake" and recall one other track

How many albums have they made?

If they come through Seattle maybe I'll go. If tickets arent $300 each or something

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Submitted by proudfoot on Sat, 08/10/2024 - 14:59

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26 albums

No Seattle show. The Gorge? Yes.

After my most recent event at the Gorge...never again.

Every freakin band in the world plays Seattle. Except those i would like to see.

Portland!
Spokane!
Vancouver BC!

But Seattle? Nope.

grumble grumble, i guess

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Sat, 08/10/2024 - 15:31

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....first release. 2012. 26 releases since.
Say what you want, but they spoil their fans.
Road trip it.

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Submitted by FiveBranch on Sat, 08/10/2024 - 19:58

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Listened to some of Scranton again this evening. Last Sunday at the Deer Creek Phish show, the brother who pulled up behind me was listening a very recognizable Crazy Fingers. Yep! Sure enough, Autzen, '90, DaP 44. So then we moved on to July 18 DaP 40. Good times indeed (it all rolls into one....).

They have 197 shows up on the archive.

Just downloaded Quarters off boob tube.

I had Polygondwanaland in stock.

Quarters is sounding good.

ADDED FYI - the king has a web site with a bootleg section giving away soundboard stuff.

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Submitted by proudfoot on Sun, 08/11/2024 - 10:53

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Ok

Many commercial interruptions unfortunately

Quarters played with zero

Eyes Like the Sky next

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Sun, 08/11/2024 - 13:05

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....may I suggest Infest The Rats Nest next PF.
You like the heavy stuff, correct?

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Submitted by proudfoot on Sun, 08/11/2024 - 15:07

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I tried Eyes Like the Sky but narration was too depressing.

Plus I had to do some honey-do's

Back on the couch...

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Submitted by scott06739@ver… on Sun, 08/11/2024 - 15:23

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First disc is ok second disc way distorted. What do you think happened ?

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Submitted by proudfoot on Sun, 08/11/2024 - 18:48

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Are these guys for real or just latter-day Pranksters?

There is indeed no Planet B

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Sun, 08/11/2024 - 20:37

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....then out of nowhere, there is a "new" live BOC on Spotify.
Live Tyranny & Mutation. 50th anniversary. Live in NYC.

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Submitted by DeadVikes on Mon, 08/12/2024 - 09:53

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Yes, distortion. Unfortunately is on this release and other 71 releases. Not there with the multi track recordings from this year.

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Submitted by JoeyMC on Mon, 08/12/2024 - 10:22

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The company that ticketbastard tasked with cleaning up their data breach mess is garbage as well.
This is not good :/

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Submitted by Gary Farseer on Mon, 08/12/2024 - 13:48

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The Floaters (1977)

Oro - Found the Featherstone article. Hope to read it today or in the morning.

No doubt he is a the sheet. Maybe the best multitasker alive today.

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Tue, 08/13/2024 - 06:38

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....I've been getting a lot of texts from "USPS" regarding being unable to deliver packages I've never ordered and to call a number to get it straightened out.
Nice try.

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Submitted by VirgoHead on Tue, 08/13/2024 - 07:24

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Thanks to the good folks in customer service, I received my re-sent copy of 51 yesterday here in Norway... er... North Carolina. If the series doesn't go to digital offering like the boxes, I may be done after this year. You know it's bad with the mails when the gov't water company says not to mail check payments because so many are getting lost in the mail.

To me, 51 is an interesting historical document on par with the houseboat tapes but that's about it. The liner notes say the H2H is perfectly played, yet the one on Ladies & Gents is tighter by far. The distortion mentioned by others seems worst at the end of each 4/13 set with some nasty "flutter." I didn't see Plangent mentioned on the package.

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Submitted by jonathan918@GD on Tue, 08/13/2024 - 09:15

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They can only do so much. To do anything else during a production of a pick, inadverntently or not, would jeopardize authenticity, IMHO, of course!!!! lol

Rock on, gang

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Submitted by jonathan918@GD on Tue, 08/13/2024 - 09:36

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They seem to really struggle moving freight

I don't understand. At all

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Submitted by 1stshow70878 on Tue, 08/13/2024 - 09:58

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That scam Vguy got is huge and has stolen millions already with careless victims giving them info like cc numbers and more. Beware of these emails and texts claiming to be USPS with an undeliverable package pretext.
Cheers

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Submitted by Oroborous on Tue, 08/13/2024 - 10:34

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Phuching leaches, get a job loser!
And get off my lawn!

Hey 1stshow, you get flooded at all? Stay dry over there son!
Rains been awesome. No flooding here at all yet 🤞

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Tue, 08/13/2024 - 11:06

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....make sure you warn your friends and loved ones that may be suseptible to scams like that.

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Submitted by 1stshow70878 on Tue, 08/13/2024 - 11:16

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Nope but getting a half inch 2 days ago was a surprise. Flooding just doesn't happen here since we got one of the last dams built in the west on our Uncompahgre R. in 1987. I heard the Dolores R. had some minor flooding. Happy to have moisture totals still above yearly averages thanks to rainy May/June and now again almost an inch here in Aug. which is a bit early for monsoon season. After 10 years of drought where we never make our annual 10 inch average. Doc gets that much in one storm! We are sending it downstream, lol.
Cheers

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Submitted by icecrmcnkd on Tue, 08/13/2024 - 15:53

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I’m on my 4th listen and probably won’t reach for it again for a long time.
The 12th sounds better to me.

Good historical document. I didn’t read the liner notes, so don’t know if Dave says why this was picked over another night. Might be saving better sounding shows for later.

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Tue, 08/13/2024 - 18:26

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....they are officially offering free narcan to all their upcoming shows.
With fent out there lurking, this is awesome news. Hope they start a trend.
I'm finally going to see them in November.
And yes. The 12th does sound better.

Back in my day the worst that could happen was harshing out. And we had freakout tents. We were SMART hippies.

Fentanyl....why the phuhcq would anyone go near that shyte

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Tue, 08/13/2024 - 21:16

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....grains of sand (Bob Dylan), is all it takes if you're particular inoffensive drug of choice is laced. With. Literal grains.
The adults here didn't have to worry about that shit back in the day. All I heard back then was pcp laced shermsticks. Raise your hand if you understand that reference.

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Submitted by Danehead on Wed, 08/14/2024 - 05:58

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Anyone knows anything.. ?

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Submitted by proudfoot on Wed, 08/14/2024 - 06:35

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"Ancient prankster secret"

Raise your hand if you understand THAT bizarre reference.

No rumors or anything that I have heard, Danehead.

We'll know more in October, methinks.

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Submitted by proudfoot on Wed, 08/14/2024 - 06:39

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Drive around the Emerald City for an hour. Fent casualties abound.

Pets are good companions.

They are also MONEY PITS.

sweet phuqkn creases

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Submitted by That Mike on Wed, 08/14/2024 - 07:59

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Proudfoot - I’m thinking an old Calgon commercial, “‘Ancient Chinese secret’, eh Mr Lee?!”
Both a New Potato Caboose (1971 Edit) AND a 1969 Dupree on Dead satellite on one short drive today - must buy a lottery ticket! Like catching a leprechaun! 🍀
Recently got a mint copy from the UK of a hard to find CD called/by a group called “LA Getaway”. Always on my radar but always at “Collector” prices, pretty decent listen. Band (Chris Ethridge - Burritos; Joel Scott Hill - Canned Heat; the late Johnny Barbara - Turtles/Starship) made this one record, and dropped out of sight. Fun chasing an elusive item on your “must have” list, fewer and fewer like it now.

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Submitted by proudfoot on Wed, 08/14/2024 - 08:37

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What a bizarre commercial

He spoke in Stereotype
His wife sounded like a Valley Girl

Quite the juxtaposition

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Submitted by bigbrownie on Wed, 08/14/2024 - 09:04

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I'll bite. I'm guessing that's a "Sherman", as mentioned in "Do You Feel Like I Do?" by Peter Frampton, laced with PCP.. I remember a guy in Central Park (NYC) back in '79
who was probably selling the same thing. His line (with a heavy NY accent):
"Get your space joints, here...See Star Wars".

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