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    Dave's Picks Vol. 51: Scranton Catholic Youth Center, Scranton, PA (4/13/71)

    Look out Big Boss Man, Pigpen's on the loose! We're shedding our lovelight on the not-to-be-overlooked Spring 1971 tour with DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 51, featuring the complete unreleased show from the SCRANTON CATHOLIC YOUTH CENTER, SCRANTON, PA 4/13/71 AND the 2nd set from the previous night at the Pittsburgh Civic Arena in Pittsburgh, PA on 4/12/71.

    These gems find the original Grateful Dead quintet delivering some of their most inspired, energetic, and tightest performances. There's a dab of WORKINGMAN'S DEAD, a splash of AMERICAN BEAUTY, a great foreshadow into what would soon appear on SKULL & ROSES. And you'll need nearly all those fingers (or those toes) because - count 'em - there's eight classic covers ("Mama Tried," "Hard To Handle," and a rare "I Second That Emotion," to name a few) done as only the Dead could do them with Mr. McKernan and his magical harmonica.

    Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 51: SCRANTON CATHOLIC YOUTH CENTER, SCRANTON, PA 4/13/71 has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering.

    P.S. We had a little extra room on Disc 2, so please enjoy the final five DP48 bonus tracks to complete 10/24/70, St. Louis, MO.

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  • Oroboros
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    Double-stuffed Oro's

    For edification (or de-evolution) of all who read our posts!

    I am constitutionally unable to make a long story short, while my brother from another mother Ouroborous can provide succinct and witty insights. Since the dog days of the censuring psychopaths have thankfully abated. Long posts, hooray!

    “Everything that has a beginning has an ending. Make your peace with that and all will be well.”

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    So tired of mediocre Dave's picks . Let's retire this series, remaster, remix and plangent process the entire Dicks's Picks! YEAH!

  • Gary Farseer
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    I have been starting to look back at Seinfeld

    Loved it back then. May hunt down box.

    Never thought about the same thing, sorta, a dog chasing its tail. Hmmm

    I am assuming Phil played that bass during '77 new years run.

    Yes, meant for both.

  • Oroborous
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    Yinyang lol

    See, he’s a teacher, and thus wisdom etc,
    I choose mine more for the comical representation of my life as a dog chasing my own tail…(my original avatar; )

    Yes, lol, asteroids and cosmic syncretization, or cosmic debris, both appearing like the Bizarro Jerry street scene!

  • Gary Farseer
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    Didnt realize we had both on same day. NICE!

    Found the repost. Quite lengthy. Will read after I get grooved up!

    OB as a sign of death and birth or rebirth, depending on you affinity.

    Read that the first time you posted I assume. Cant wait to read again. I even booked mark in my GD folder.

    Thanks so much.

    And both of you keep posting as much as possible. Just extremely amazing to me both on same day.

  • Oroboros
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    Great stuff on Phil's Alembic, and reminded me how the Oroborous (snake or dragon) was a different ancient symbol of infinity.

    Mary reposted my story here, search- JERRY, THE DRAGON, AND THE LONG STRANGE TRIP, AS TOLD BY OROBOROUS

    "It ain't what I don't know that gets me into trouble, it's what I know for sure, that ain't so."

  • Gary Farseer
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    Killer

    We have Air Supply in one room and Christopher Cross in another room on same night.

    Guess I'll get all cowboyed up and go trolling for the ladies.

    Women go crazy for a sharp dressed man.

  • Gary Farseer
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    The Other One called OB I haven't seen around here in years.

    The reason for that last post was the Osiris-REx/Osiris-Apophos mission there was a NASA deadhead employee that put a live recording of Grateful Dead on that mission. Mind is a little fuzzy, but almost 100% sure it had a Dark Star on it. I started down that rabbit hole looking for that recording. Still havent found it. I will continue to look.

    I just stretched out a little because it has been a little lite recently.

    To 1971!!!

    Trying to Edit for better clarity.

  • Oroborous
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    Mission Control +

    I have a cool book: Immortal Axes That Rocked, that has cool pics and similar info about Phil’s bass, AND!!! Jerry’s Pretzel Guitar!
    Good sheet Mon!

    You say po TA Toe, I say p tah to lol
    Gary, Yer not seeing double, this time lol (JK)
    The original good Oroboros, who is the creator of the ceramic beast and it’s long strange trip, beat me to it by two weeks, so I had seen another spelling some where? Used to think in the Dead Book by C Loves father, Hank Harrison, but now think that’s not correct? Can’t really remember?, and now of course it’s gotten confusing, so like that awesome Seinfeld episode where they all have alternative dimension other selves, like in “Bizarro Jerry”, “Bizarro George” etc, that we’re just like them, only opposite personality wise, hilarious if you’ve never seen it!
    So I’m the Bizarro Oro, the Other, Other One Lol the evil twin lol
    I felt bad when Marye posted his great tale in the community section but with my spelling. I tried to set the record strait back then, but kept getting pummeled mercilessly by the you know who police!
    Thanks again to Marye for posting that awesome tale!
    The stories are my favorite reason to hang here, so we need more good tales!

    So glad now to be able to give credit where credit is due!
    The kind, good, original Oroboros is THAT Oro, and I’m just a second rate loud mouth prankster who eats breaths shits way too much GOGD, but hopefully at least brings smiles and laughs to the people ; )

    Oh, the meteorite is crazy stuff, but reminds me of the episode where Kramer has a dream he’s riding one “like a cowboy Jerry” …. ; )

  • Gary Farseer
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    Kinda slow, maybe I'll stretch out a little

    In 2018 we were having discussions about Osiris REx. A NASA satellite launch which had 2 purposes. 1) It was sent to collect a Sample from near earth asteroid Bennu. 2) After flying by earth to drop the sample to earth, which it accomplished on September 21, 2023, it's name was changed to Osiris Apex (Osiris Apophos). It is heading to Apophos which is a large asteroid that is heading to very near earth in 2029. Apophos means God of Destruction. It is the size of the Eiffel Tower and will be visible with the naked eye. Space trackers have pushed out it hitting earth until 2129 or so, 100 hundred years from now. But still a very high level threat.

    Now to continue on this thread considering Grateful Dead and its meaning and Phil Lesh and Egypt. I ran across a great Guitar World report on Phil's "Mission Control" base as part of it follows:

    "Just about any Deadhead is familiar with the Phil Lesh bass known as ‘Mission Control’. What is hazy are many of the details, as this bass guitar seemed to simply disappear over 40 years ago.

    This astounding custom Alembic bass, with serial number 74 00008, was played by Lesh on stage with the Grateful Dead from June 16, 1974 until July 1, 1979, and was hand-built at Alembic by luthier Rick Turner.

    Only the eighth instrument built by Alembic, Turner started it in 1972 and completed it in mid-1974. ‘Osiris’, aka ‘Mission Control’, ‘Osage Orange’ or ‘The Omega’, was built not just for, but as part of, the band’s historic Wall Of Sound. The significance of the Wall Of Sound, another brainchild of Alembic co-founder Owsley ‘Bear’ Stanley III, cannot be overstated.

    This grand audio experiment spawned the modern PA system, and set a standard still unmatched today. However, that is only part of the story of this bass and its builders at Alembic. This instrument and a handful of its contemporaries set the stage for the modern ‘boutique’ instrument.

    Consider the construction of this bass, beyond its exotic inlays and electronics. When this instrument was built, you could count on two hands the number of instruments built this way. It featured laminated neck-thru construction, coupled with sandwiched, exotic tone wood wings known as ‘The Hippie Sandwich’.

    These techniques, pioneered by the builders at Alembic, have paved the way for countless luthiers and instruments that now use these elements as the standard for today’s boutique instrument. Jerry Garcia’s Wolf guitar, built by Luthier Doug Irwin in 1972 to 1973, featured the same type of construction, and was also used with the Wall Of Sound.

    Irwin also came from the Alembic tree of luthiers. Used by Lesh at over 250 Grateful Dead shows in that five-year period, the Mission Control bass became iconic in its own right, with Rolling Stone magazine featuring the instrument in an Alembic article in September 1973. It was also featured in its own scene in The Grateful Dead Movie the following year."

    Later in the article, dated April 1, 2021, it lists the inlays of Phil's Osiris Bass, also called Apophos in another article as follows:
    "The ebony fingerboard is covered in 11 different exotic inlays. For the record, these are:

    Mother-of-pearl lightning bolts striking lapis lazuli An abalone serpent eating its own tail
    A mother-of-pearl crescent moon
    An abalone lizard
    An abalone Darkstar Mother-of-pearl and abalone stars
    An abalone bat
    An abalone infinity symbol
    A mother-of-pearl and abalone Saturn
    Abalone kissing fish, as Lesh is a Pisces
    More mother-of-pearl lightning bolts striking lapis lazuli"

    I bring this up as Oroborous has the picture of Oroborous today as his picture. I know we have 2 Oroborus', hope I have the right one. The other talked about making an Oroborous and putting it on stage and then meeting Jerry the next morning and giving it to him. Now that is a long time ago so memory fuzzy. But look at the neck Phil had of these GD symbols. Also, it matches his guitar strap.

    There is a lot too this. May post more later, but feel I have over extended the welcome for now. Send PM if you want direct web pages. I am sure they will have to be broken up.

    G

    From there down the rabbit hole I found articles by Ryan Slesinger, PhD and Vincent Bridges. Both who document the deeper meanings of Grateful Dead as it relates to the book of the dead. These are long involved article which I am still reading/digesting.

    Apophis not Apophos. Edit

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Dave's Picks Vol. 51: Scranton Catholic Youth Center, Scranton, PA (4/13/71)

Look out Big Boss Man, Pigpen's on the loose! We're shedding our lovelight on the not-to-be-overlooked Spring 1971 tour with DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 51, featuring the complete unreleased show from the SCRANTON CATHOLIC YOUTH CENTER, SCRANTON, PA 4/13/71 AND the 2nd set from the previous night at the Pittsburgh Civic Arena in Pittsburgh, PA on 4/12/71.

These gems find the original Grateful Dead quintet delivering some of their most inspired, energetic, and tightest performances. There's a dab of WORKINGMAN'S DEAD, a splash of AMERICAN BEAUTY, a great foreshadow into what would soon appear on SKULL & ROSES. And you'll need nearly all those fingers (or those toes) because - count 'em - there's eight classic covers ("Mama Tried," "Hard To Handle," and a rare "I Second That Emotion," to name a few) done as only the Dead could do them with Mr. McKernan and his magical harmonica.

Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 51: SCRANTON CATHOLIC YOUTH CENTER, SCRANTON, PA 4/13/71 has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering.

P.S. We had a little extra room on Disc 2, so please enjoy the final five DP48 bonus tracks to complete 10/24/70, St. Louis, MO.

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Does anybody remember a daytime show, in which Jerry, screwed up a part of China doll, and said to the audience "wait a minute, that's *ucked up."

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Well, for three of the last four years, the last DaP of the year was a later-era show - Vol. 36 was 1987 and then Vols. 40 and 44 were both from 1990. So it seems a reasonable supposition to think he might dip into '91 for Vol. 52.

On the other side of the coin, this year Dave already cracked open 1985 for the first time (Vol 49) - you have to go back to Vols 35 and 36 for the last time he broached two new years (new for the DaP series, that is) in one calendar/subscription year. Would he really end the year with a 1991 release? People have been speculating about 9/26 for some years now, but it never really sounds like informed speculation but just more of "I was there" and "this was the best night of the run" chatter. And ofc one of Dave's first releases when he took over the Dick's series was 9/25, so he surely considered the 26th back then but passed.

My own feeling is that while '91 is the last strong year for the band, the energy did wane as the year went along. I think the March shows, or perhaps Vegas in late April, have more to offer. The August Shoreline shows have some fire to them. But for any of these it's not hard to imagine that Rhino will struggle to shift 25,000 copies. And if they are willing to risk a Fall '91 release, one of the MSG shows (8 still unreleased) seems a safer sales bet than Boston.

But there's still no Dave's from 1989, nor '88. Either would likely sell better than a '91. And I note that the last '76 released (notwithstanding the 2020 box set) was Vol. 28.

Oh well, I'm always wrong when I play the "guess what Dave will release" game. Since I didn't mention it, it will probably be '73.

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Not sure about a China Doll - maybe you're thinking of Brokedown Palace at Telluride 8/16/87? Double encore - as they start Brokedown out of Touch It slowly grinds to a halt and Jerry exclaims something to the effect of - "Wait a minute! This is all fucked up! We're in then wrong key! You folks are used to this - oxygen deprivation. Forget that all happened!" And they start Brokedown fresh.

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Obeah,

The one thing we know for sure is Dave can be unpredictable at times. Never thought he would release another 71 show for #48 and release this Scranton show two releases later. Who knows, maybe he will release another 71 show for #52.

Would love to see an 88 or 91. It is time.

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That's it, thanks. Believe it or not, but I typed in BP first but China somehow came to mind. It's pretty rare to hear Jerry talk much at shows, except for his sweet lyrics.

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They muffed the beginning of Brokedown Palace when they played it as an encore when I saw them on 3/27/81, too. Looking in The Taping Compendium to jog my memory, after playing the opening chords, Jerry came in with the wrong verse. To quote the good book -
""Sorry! Premature senility," says Jerry with a grin, before playing and singing it so soulfully that I'm reduced to tears for the second time in one night."

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Good points, all, Deadvikes. Dave is indeed unpredictable.

It probably surprises no one to observe that 1977 leads the way in the DaP catalog of releases with 8 shows to date. And it's most welcome to note that 1974 comes second with 6. But 1971 now has 5. All three of those years were represented in the very first year of the DaP series, so empirically it might seem that Dave has a strong affinity for each one.

And yet I also recognize that some of his decisions were governed by what's in the vault (or maybe what was repatriated to the vault!); what is available in a very high-quality recording; what was already released in other series or box sets, and so on. One thing we can probably all agree upon, though, is that Dave truly has one of the most interesting jobs in the world. He's like a real-life version of that Dos Equis guy. Except Canadian and clean-shaven.

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Dave has come to a point now where legitimately he could spread the release years around more equally. Being that so much has been released now to date over multiple years and numerous compilations or series. Not to mention big and mini Box Sets!

Well, 1977 is picked close to the bone, so has 1974 which had less shows done overall {Wall O'Sound}. 1976 has only half a years worth of shows, and only 3 have been Dave's releases so far {1976 is also a first year Dave's Picks representation}. 1972 still has some early springtime shows {Academy of Music} remaining before the Big {Massively released} Europe tour, and then after getting back stateside there's quite a bunch left during the midsummer to autumn and winter `72. The years 1973 & 1978 still have much shows left each for their year as a whole, with also some major variations in set lists and style during said years. Only 1973 has a big chuck gone, the summer shows.

So all that said, on any given year now, Dave could release at least one, maybe two Kieth & Donna era shows, {pre & post hiatus} then at least one, maybe two Brent era shows, {For one show pick from 1984~`86, with two shows pick from {1979~`83} & {1987~1990}.
That leaves room for either a Pig era show or a Vince & Bruce era pick, maybe both depending on how many Brent or Keith & Donna shows got done for that year.

This is the good math!

P.S. Gimme your bets for Dave's Pick #52! He already hinted that it would be a post Brent 1990s show. My money's on Nassau 3/27/91, too many unique aspects to pass on.

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Now that the Box is out, it’s just 52 and Black Friday RSD to be announced.
And then time to subscribe for 2025.

A Bruce show for 52 would be grate.
10-31-91
It’s got a Dark Star…..

For a post-Bruce Vince release 3-30-94 would be nice.
It also has a Dark Star.

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Since I am clueless on the stats I'll just pick some shows I attended.
For a Bruce: 12-9-90
For a Vince: 3-6-94
Just for fun: 6-8-80
Why not?
Cheers

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I wouldn't be suprised if DL tapped Knickerbocker 3/91........3/25/91 is tape I had of the second set, back in the day, and its damn good!! DL is a big Playing In the Band fan and this show has a cool closer of PITB to finish the show......who knows

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